Idea for the forum!

[Rachel]

Okay I was wondering if we can have a forum section that "ONLY" news reporters can post in it such as Habbox staff interviews, movie reviews anything interesting for the users to read on the forum. Other fansites has these and seems to be quite popular. Although users and other staff apart from News department & Management can post in it so it can serve also a purpose for helping for news staff for their reviews.

[e5]

I've always thought this was a good idea, but I think it wasn't done because it takes the little attention left that is given to the habbox main site

[MKR&*42]

Whilst forum integration of news is a lovely idea, it has been chucked around for at least 3 years and won't happem because either ex managers slammed the idea or because peopke are too ******* lazy to try it. Maybe one of the new AGMs will be of better use.

[sexpot]

I think it would be unused since we have so few news reporters, not to mention the only comments on the articles people write on those other fansites are "good article" or some variety of that and not an actual comment about the content.

plus what hayden said about forum integration

[Rachel]

I am glad this is a good idea. Although I hope they take this into consideration and bring it back as I am sure it was popular and always will be. Even with a few news reporter, there is nothing wrong to have this to happen really...

[Samantha]

News is currently changing, more to come later, but I was always told we couldn't have it like that unfortunately.

[Chris]

News is currently changing, more to come later, but I was always told we couldn't have it like that unfortunately.

As in it isn't possible? :P Who told you that?

Sounds like a nice idea to me.

[Rachel]

News is currently changing, more to come later, but I was always told we couldn't have it like that unfortunately.


Why is that? Other fansites has that and doesn't have any issues. Yes news team may have a very small team but why not consider it once news team have a decent amount of reporters? This won't affect the news of the site if people is worrying about this. But the question is, do you think people even read the news on the Habbox site?

[e5]

I think it would be unused since we have so few news reporters, not to mention the only comments on the articles people write on those other fansites are "good article" or some variety of that and not an actual comment about the content.

plus what hayden said about forum integration
Disagree, because those types are comments are allowed on the forum ;)


News is currently changing, more to come later, but I was always told we couldn't have it like that unfortunately.

And who said that? Another agm at the time? You're in control now!! :P

[Samantha]

Skynus/Tom said we weren't allowed to do it as Sulake wouldn't allow it. I asked him this in November/December last year.

[sexpot]

Disagree, because those types are comments are allowed on the forum ;)


And who said that? Another agm at the time? You're in control now!! :P

But they're useless comments..


Skynus/Tom said we weren't allowed to do it as Sulake wouldn't allow it. I asked him this in November/December last year.

Why is it allowed for other fansites but not habbox

[MKR&*42]

What like every other fansite has news on their forum? :S
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If the issue is that news would vanish from the main site, it doesn't have to. There could be a small preview which links directly to the forum thread or somethin idfk im not repeating stuff thats been said for years :P

[Samantha]

What like every other fansite has news on their forum? :S
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If the issue is that news would vanish from the main site, it doesn't have to. There could be a small preview which links directly to the forum thread or somethin idfk im not repeating stuff thats been said for years :P

That's exactly what I wanted, but got told no. I know other sites do it, so unsure why I was told no lol.

[e5]

But they're useless comments..



Why is it allowed for other fansites but not habbox

Yeah, and useless comments, otherwise known as pointless aren't allowed on the forum :P, they would have to add discussion

[sexpot]

Yeah, and useless comments, otherwise known as pointless aren't allowed on the forum :P, they would have to add discussion

You said in your earlier post that they would be allowed.. >_>

[Rachel]

That's exactly what I wanted, but got told no. I know other sites do it, so unsure why I was told no lol.

Well if that is the case, it is not fair at all for our fansite.



Yeah, and useless comments, otherwise known as pointless aren't allowed on the forum :P, they would have to add discussion

Well you can't expect to write a story on every comment ;) Unless they consider the thread as spam like having no post count so it doesn't break the rule ;) Just saying.

[xxMATTGxx]

There used to be a rule or one of the points in the fansite way/policy that the official fansite had to have news on their site. Seeing as Habbox.com is the fansite on the list it would mean that site would have to have some sort of news in regards of Habbo.

Although the policy that fansites agree to these days doesn't have this mentioned.

[e5]

You said in your earlier post that they would be allowed.. >_>

Oh crap, I meant aren't lmao, sorry :P Gosh don't you read the rules!!1 ;)

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Well if that is the case, it is not fair at all for our fansite.




Well you can't expect to write a story on every comment ;) Unless they consider the thread as spam like having no post count so it doesn't break the rule ;) Just saying.

You don't write a story in every comment, you just discuss the news?! but on a news report

[Rachel]

There used to be a rule or one of the points in the fansite way/policy that the official fansite had to have news on their site. Seeing as Habbox.com is the fansite on the list it would mean that site would have to have some sort of news in regards of Habbo.

Although the policy that fansites agree to these days doesn't have this mentioned.


It is just I do not see anything wrong with this once the team is bigger. I know that is nothing to do with the policy.

[xxMATTGxx]

It is just I do not see anything wrong with this once the team is bigger. I know that is nothing to do with the policy.

I think what Sam was saying and thought if say the news was only just posted on HabboxForum and have some sort of connection on Habbox.com.

[Rachel]

Then give a sneak peek on the site that directs to that thread? :P as it was mentioned

[Phil]

At a glance I'm not sure about this.

At the moment, there are only three Normal News Reporters, no Heads and no Managers. Since last Monday which was the 24th of February there has only been seven News Reports. I'm not sure if it needs a very dedicated right now. What I would suggested doing is posting the news on the forum in the same fashion that Undertaker posts here (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=796531). In the appropriate section.

I'll have a nosey posey around some of the other forums you're talking about tomorrow and see how it works for them. At the moment, I think News is a bit quiet for it but those of you in news, I'm not blaming you, you're doing a great job keeping it going with only three of you.

[Yupt]

I'd very much like this, other forums have it and it starts a good conversation. As long as news reporters are the only ones who can start threads, but users can reply and discuss whatever it is that has been reported on - then great!

Kinda like the comps forum.

[Rachel]

Well I am sure if the News Team was promoted on air and on Habbo it would probably give it a boost to the team :)

[-Moniquee.]

I actually think this is a great idea. I don't think many HxF users even go onto habbox.com so they aren't seeing the news to be able to comment. Whereas, if it was posted on the forum, everyone that uses the forum is reading the news article and also commenting if they want to.

[Kyle]

This is an idea that's been considered on numerous occasions. Definitely a great idea but has its pitfalls. Need a way to ensure that the most is taken from every article and people don't reply for the sake of commenting 'omg u so good at writin well done' as I've experienced first hand from other fansites. Give people a reason to properly discuss what is posted and it could work.

[Rachel]

This is an idea that's been considered on numerous occasions. Definitely a great idea but has its pitfalls. Need a way to ensure that the most is taken from every article and people don't reply for the sake of commenting 'omg u so good at writin well done' as I've experienced first hand from other fansites. Give people a reason to properly discuss what is posted and it could work.

Maybe if it was moderated or needs approval by admins or w.e then if it is approved then it is posted.

[Phil]

Okay, I've looked at four other fansites who have something like this.

Three of them it looked like they have a whole forum dedicated to news with a few different forums within it such as Celebrities, Habbo & Sport. As far as I can see, in these sections it looks like everyone can post whatever news they like therefore not the same as what we're talking here as it seems anyone can make the threads rather than just the News Team.

The fourth site I looked at did infact have a section on the forum especially for this where the News Staff would post their article and allow others to discuss. On that forum they have only had three threads so far this year and the threads that were posted had very little discussion.

[Rachel]

Okay, I've looked at four other fansites who have something like this.

Three of them it looked like they have a whole forum dedicated to news with a few different forums within it such as Celebrities, Habbo & Sport. As far as I can see, in these sections it looks like everyone can post whatever news they like therefore not the same as what we're talking here as it seems anyone can make the threads rather than just the News Team.

The fourth site I looked at did infact have a section on the forum especially for this where the News Staff would post their article and allow others to discuss. On that forum they have only had three threads so far this year and the threads that were posted had very little discussion.


The 2 sites I gave you has the forums for them that "ONLY" them who can make threads there. I tried to make a thread and it doesn't let me so I am guessing it is only news staff.

[Sian]

a few of the smaller, newer sites set it so only news staff can post/ set the perms so all new threads need to be moderated first. From my experience it just depends on what the media/news manager wants at the time.

I think it'll be a good idea, a way to keep some news on the main site is perhaps have Habbo news as mainsite only (as it isn't talked about as much) then real life news and perhaps interviews on the forum. Reviews may be better left on the main site as well?

[Phil]

The 2 sites I gave you has the forums for them that "ONLY" them who can make threads there. I tried to make a thread and it doesn't let me so I am guessing it is only news staff.

Okay just rechecked the second one and you're right. It seems like most of the people posting news are from the same accounts although I can't be sure because I can't find a Staff List and I'm not signing up. They have it a very odd way and I'm not sure I'd like something like HFFM's.

I can see there being a lot of duplicate threads such as people who post something in "Habbo News & Rumours" and then it's getting reposted in the News Staff news forum.

Sorry I'm not trying to be negative or anything, I do think it's a good idea, there are just some issues I can see arising

[Mr-Trainor]

At a glance I'm not sure about this.

At the moment, there are only three Normal News Reporters, no Heads and no Managers. Since last Monday which was the 24th of February there has only been seven News Reports. I'm not sure if it needs a very dedicated right now. What I would suggested doing is posting the news on the forum in the same fashion that Undertaker posts here (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=796531). In the appropriate section.

I'll have a nosey posey around some of the other forums you're talking about tomorrow and see how it works for them. At the moment, I think News is a bit quiet for it but those of you in news, I'm not blaming you, you're doing a great job keeping it going with only three of you.
What I've bolded above is exactly what I would suggest too, at least until the changes Sam's talking about come in to place? In an ideal situation it'd be good if the site and forum were integrated and the comments would sync with each other whether made on the site or the thread :P, but I think posting them like Dan does is good enough, although I'm not sure if that has increased the number of comments on the articles themselves on the site.

[Inseriousity.]

A better way would be to increase the number of weekly articles in a range of different areas and then post in the relevant forums to advertise. Keeping it all in one forum would probably mean it'd get ignored. At least if it's in a specific area then the people they're likely to target will be better reached (technology article for technology fans, rare values article for trading fans etc).

[e5]

A better way would be to increase the number of weekly articles in a range of different areas and then post in the relevant forums to advertise. Keeping it all in one forum would probably mean it'd get ignored. At least if it's in a specific area then the people they're likely to target will be better reached (technology article for technology fans, rare values article for trading fans etc).

I think the only successful way for it to be seen and replied to etc is if these news reporters were posting the news FIRST. Like any news place, you'd expect it to be news and they're the first the find it like other news reporters (irl) are expected to do, if you get me :P

[Mr-Trainor]

I think the only successful way for it to be seen and replied to etc is if these news reporters were posting the news FIRST. Like any news place, you'd expect it to be news and they're the first the find it like other news reporters (irl) are expected to do, if you get me :P
I think the problem is that if there aren't reporters online when the news comes in e.g. Habbo announces a new LTD, then the regular forum users will likely be first to post it. But the more news reporters there are, the more likely they are to post it first so that'd help :P.

[e5]

I think the problem is that if there aren't reporters online when the news comes in e.g. Habbo announces a new LTD, then the regular forum users will likely be first to post it. But the more news reporters there are, the more likely they are to post it first so that'd help :P.

Yeah exactly. Really, there isn't enough for them to get to the news first (as chances are with less, they won't all be online if any to get it) then again, if there's loads, there may not be enough news to post although the chances of the getting the news first increases. It's a bit of an issue really! I just think as news reporters they should take up the actual role of what news reporters do in real life and that's give news out fast and as it's happening!:/

[Rachel]

I do not see why we cannot post it on the forum..but anyways :P

[Phil]

I do not see why we cannot post it on the forum..but anyways :P

Where is your confusion?

[Rachel]

It is just why other official fansites allows this and not here? I am just wondering. I mean if we can't we can't.

[FlyingJesus]

It's a nice idea in theory but our news staff never get the story first so they'd just be making duplicate threads

[Inseriousity.]

I think the only successful way for it to be seen and replied to etc is if these news reporters were posting the news FIRST. Like any news place, you'd expect it to be news and they're the first the find it like other news reporters (irl) are expected to do, if you get me :P

Yes but weekly articles aren't technically news, more 'entertainment' pieces designed for a particular audience and much easier to justify posting on the forum as there wouldn't really be 'duplicates' For instance, the recent Habbo thread about the DTL rare, if the news reporters just posted that story then yeah it'd be a duplicate but if they posted an article looking into Habbo's advertising (a lot of complaints in the thread about how they didn't even know about it) then it'd be something different.

[Phil]

It is just why other official fansites allows this and not here? I am just wondering. I mean if we can't we can't.


It's a nice idea in theory but our news staff never get the story first so they'd just be making duplicate threads

What Tom just said is one of the few reasons I can think of. If duplicate threads are made, the latter of them will be closed and if that ends up being the News Reporters threads which would defeat the whole purpose of having this specific forum for them to post in.

As well as that, there aren't a great amount of News Articles published right now but that's no fault of the staff who're currently there. It's because there is currently no manager and a very small number of staff. Looking at the other forums that you mentioned to me, while they have this in place and articles are getting published, it's still not generating a huge amount of discussion.

I saw lawrawrrr; post in Spam that General Management are currently working on news/changing it around or whatever. Don't hold me on that because I honestly don't know what they're doing.

By no means am I saying no to your suggestion, just not right now.

[e5]

Yes but weekly articles aren't technically news, more 'entertainment' pieces designed for a particular audience and much easier to justify posting on the forum as there wouldn't really be 'duplicates' For instance, the recent Habbo thread about the DTL rare, if the news reporters just posted that story then yeah it'd be a duplicate but if they posted an article looking into Habbo's advertising (a lot of complaints in the thread about how they didn't even know about it) then it'd be something different.

Yeah, I agree with you there. There can be news reports on that too but it's very much limited, I'd say.

[Tom]

Skynus/Tom said we weren't allowed to do it as Sulake wouldn't allow it. I asked him this in November/December last year.

Umm, what? I may have left but don't try and twist my words and put the blame on me...

[rnix]

Umm, what? I may have left but don't try and twist my words and put the blame on me...

Rebel tom. Jkz

OT: the comment section gets little attention. I think a good idea would be to allow big content updates to show as a news article as such. (Not just little date updates) now when a new page is published it shows there too. Improving the attention content gets and uses the news system a bit more than it actually is at the moment. (Totally made this about content instead of news my bad)

I remember other sites had a robot which when the news articles which were posted on the site and made a thread on the forum too... Not sure how popular/annoying it would be

[Samantha]

Umm, what? I may have left but don't try and twist my words and put the blame on me...

I'm not putting the blame on you, you did tell me we couldn't do it as Sulake wouldn't allow it. It's on my old Skype so I can't dig it out tonight, but if you needed me to I would for you.

[e5]

Skynus/Tom said we weren't allowed to do it as Sulake wouldn't allow it. I asked him this in November/December last year.

Why would sulake say we can't do that?

[xxMATTGxx]

Why would sulake say we can't do that?

Read back a few pages I mentioned an old rule that was in place.