Senior DJ position

[Kyle]

Just wondering what the purpose of the reintroduction of the senior position was, other than to bolster egos of already established members of the department of course 8-)

question:

What is difference between head/senior positions?

[despect]

Just wondering what the purpose of the reintroduction of the senior position was, other than to bolster egos of already established members of the department of course 8-)

question:

What is difference between head/senior positions?

The reason the Senior DJ role was brought because we felt that there should be a stepping stone from a Regular DJ to Head DJ because in the past a few people were very overwhelmed with the amount of a Head DJ actually does, with this stepping stone it will help me decide who to put up and who I feel would be suited to the role hence the reappearance of the role. Although, you were asking in the help desk about the role I wasn't aware that we are allowed to discuss it so my apologies for that.

- Report any Show Issues, Missed Slots OR Swearing In Song that happen in any show
- Post feedback about any DJ you tune into
- Host 1 event per month (This could vary from a Credit Giveaway - Assisting a Head DJ with an event).
- Provide team comments on the Weekly Leaderboard about your allocated team (This can change)
- Provide a comment on monthly reports
- Assist a Head DJ in a team bonding event

That is quite similar to the Head DJ role but its only back as a trial run just to test the water and see whether the role actually helps or not.

[Kyle]

seems like overdelegation if you ask me

didnt answer my question though, what is difference between head and senior? could you use 1 role for it all and give them a short period to get to grips with it

[despect]

seems like overdelegation if you ask me

didnt answer my question though, what is difference between head and senior? could you use 1 role for it all and give them a short period to get to grips with it

A senior DJ some might say is an Assistant Head DJ (without the Asssistant part). I personally think because a few people were struggling with the Head DJ role we may as well bring in something that could help people who have potential but maybe aren't ready for the actual Head DJ as such. So Senior role is well I hope getting them ready for it.

[sex]

The reason the Senior DJ role was brought because we felt that there should be a stepping stone from a Regular DJ to Head DJ because in the past a few people were very overwhelmed with the amount of a Head DJ actually does, with this stepping stone it will help me decide who to put up and who I feel would be suited to the role hence the reappearance of the role. Although, you were asking in the help desk about the role I wasn't aware that we are allowed to discuss it so my apologies for that.

- Report any Show Issues, Missed Slots OR Swearing In Song that happen in any show
- Post feedback about any DJ you tune into
- Host 1 event per month (This could vary from a Credit Giveaway - Assisting a Head DJ with an event).
- Provide team comments on the Weekly Leaderboard about your allocated team (This can change)
- Provide a comment on monthly reports
- Assist a Head DJ in a team bonding event

That is quite similar to the Head DJ role but its only back as a trial run just to test the water and see whether the role actually helps or not.


You promote people to head DJ because they are better than the rest and hard working, if they cant "handle" the work surely that means YOU picked the wrong person for the job?

[despect]

You promote people to head DJ because they are better than the rest and hard working, if they cant "handle" the work surely that means YOU picked the wrong person for the job?

Perhaps yes, but I promote people who I feel are showing potential and who I feel could handle the role, I guess sometimes you have to take those risks and give people a chance till you finally find someone who is able to handle the job. Either way, I feel Senior DJ is a stepping stone and I feel at this moment in time is needed.

[FlyingJesus]

Apart from the monthly event aren't those things all done by the community anyway since it's literally just feedback on shows? Oh and the team bonding thing but that's a pointless waste of time and resources anyway

[despect]

Apart from the monthly event aren't those things all done by the community anyway since it's literally just feedback on shows? Oh and the team bonding thing but that's a pointless waste of time and resources anyway

I mean them actually hosting an event so for example a giveaway on habbo whether being a rare/norm giveaway or a credit giveaway :).

[Rachel]

Bringing seniors back was mention when I was Head DJ about 2 months ago but it seem to have stopped there. It is finally in place I suppose and as a trial they will know if it was worth bringing it back or not. This like this will always have negatives & positives but the negatives can easily change. If it wasn't for me being busy with real life job and lost all my 5000 music due to my computer broke I would of still be here as Head DJ. Yes there is a lot of requirements to do but when you have people to encourage you, it goes well. :)

[lawrawrrr]

There is an absolutely MASSIVE step between regular DJ and Head DJ, and even the most dedicated DJs have been known to struggle with it!

The biggest thing for me about bringing these roles back is making sure that we can tune in and feedback round the clock. Although technically any DJ could report to any of the Heads or James, they generally don't - with the Seniors brought in, the Senior+ team (8 of us - I'm still doing the Head role at the moment) can pretty much tune into every show, which means that DJs can have better feedback. Especially that it's more thorough (Seniors and Heads will both be providing better & more consistent feedback now), and more fair, as the Head may only be able to listen to one of their shows in the week, whereas this way the Senior under the Head will be able to fill in any holes the Head may have missed.

There's also the added bonus of more 'forced' events, we have the resources to do it but not many people use it, Seniors are also asked to host events each month!

And rewarding people for their work, it's shown in the past that if any staff member puts in lots of effort and it rarely gets recognised with promotions it can lead feeling a bit 'stale' - now whilst I completely disagree with arbitrary promotions, there are plenty of staff within HabboxLive who deserve a promotion, and can't commit to the Head role (as it's VERY time consuming), or could really help out - it's a fantastic step between the two.

Also like I just commented, the Head role is very time consuming, tuning into as many of your team's shows (you could have 10 DJs in your team, 3 slot MINIMUM, that's 30 hours a week!), writing feedback, doing your own shows, reports - it's not easy, and with the assistance of seniors it's just going to ease the Head role.

[Inseriousity.]

A bizarre reason to bring it back. There are huge leaps in all sorts of departments. In competitions the gap between comps staff and assistant competitions manager is enormous from one of the easiest jobs at Habbox to one of the most admin-heavy jobs there is. Does that mean that comps should have seniors? No, you introduce seniors because there's a need for them. Laura's explanation makes more sense but surely heads wouldn't be expected to tune into every show people on their team does so long as they catch at least one.

[David]

while we're here, why is guest dj back too
it failed more than once

[lawrawrrr]

Guest DJ never went away, we just have very few of them (long serving DJs, ex managers etc)

[Drunq]

Im happy senior is back. It was great with Habbox before Jade removed it.

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[Inseriousity.]

It did, I stopped it when I was AGM. Felt like all the DJs just wanted to be guest DJ although the department was in a different position back then when a team needed to be built up.

[FlyingJesus]

I mean them actually hosting an event so for example a giveaway on habbo whether being a rare/norm giveaway or a credit giveaway :).

Yeah that was the point, that's the only thing on the list that isn't already done by everyone else

[Chug!]

personally i don't think the people chosen for senior are the best. 2/4 of them are worth it. the other 2. no.

But, more to the point .it's a unnecessary role, and however long it's not been there it's been coped with. so i don't quite understand.

[Jazz]

I'm quite happy senior is back. I did notice when this change occurred that Head DJ's were getting a little too much thrown on them. The senior DJ system worked so much more effectively than getting the Head DJ's to do everything under the sun. Head DJ's had enough on their plates:

Head DJ structure
- Control Group DJ's
- PM Each DJ on Feedback
- PM DJ for every break of rules (average PM's I sent per day was about 9 to my group of 15)
- Host events 3 times a month
- Host on the giveaway account twice a week
- Post reports montly
- Weekly leaderboard
- Assist in show issues
- Assist management
- Help with applications

Theres a hell of a lot more, but when senior was removed all this stuff was added. Show issues, extra minimums etc. These minimums were literally based on current managements performances so was ridiculous because surprisingly regardless of our activity on Habbo some of us had real lives and didn't spend 20 hours a week DJing.

[Kyle]

can somebody post statistics of time spent djing for each individual dj over past 4-8 weeks. is that kind of data available? Kardan; Despect; Wigan;

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also you need to remove grig from hxl staff page and ensure that images are displaying...

http://puu.sh/7va4H.png
slackin

[despect]

can somebody post statistics of time spent djing for each individual dj over past 4-8 weeks. is that kind of data available? @Kardan (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=3428); @Despect (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=59633); @Wigan (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=75795);

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also you need to remove grig from hxl staff page and ensure that images are displaying...

http://puu.sh/7va4H.png
slackin


I will remove Grig from the staff page however, those broken images isn't something I've done because the images seem to be working completely fine for me and not had anyone else having a problem with broken images.

[Rachel]

personally i don't think the people chosen for senior are the best. 2/4 of them are worth it. the other 2. no.

But, more to the point .it's a unnecessary role, and however long it's not been there it's been coped with. so i don't quite understand.

I know quite a few deserved the role itself but didn't get promoted. Is it because they have their favorites? I am not saying the one's who are seniors doesn't deserve the promotion because you are right 2/4 worked hard for it for the past few months from when I was Head DJ. I even mentioned when I left who was even fit for my replacement but wasn't being considered I guess, well not yet. I am not saying Drewar is not fit at the position because he is doing fine from what I can see anyways.

But from what I can see , you have experience and they didn't consider you as senior at least? Odd.... Because you do have experience in the role and even as Head DJ if I am not mistaken. Yes oh right you do you use to be my Head DJ once if I can remember. I still say they should of considered you and a few others who deserved the spot.

+ rep to you Sam x


I'm quite happy senior is back. I did notice when this change occurred that Head DJ's were getting a little too much thrown on them. The senior DJ system worked so much more effectively than getting the Head DJ's to do everything under the sun. Head DJ's had enough on their plates:

Head DJ structure
- Control Group DJ's
- PM Each DJ on Feedback
- PM DJ for every break of rules (average PM's I sent per day was about 9 to my group of 15)
- Host events 3 times a month
- Host on the giveaway account twice a week
- Post reports montly
- Weekly leaderboard
- Assist in show issues
- Assist management
- Help with applications

Theres a hell of a lot more, but when senior was removed all this stuff was added. Show issues, extra minimums etc. These minimums were literally based on current managements performances so was ridiculous because surprisingly regardless of our activity on Habbo some of us had real lives and didn't spend 20 hours a week DJing.


When I was Head DJ we had to do all that yes and plus other requirements which we had loads of work to do. Yet some people didn't realize that and complained, why is reviews being posted late and what such....well now you know why it was taking long. I did my best to send mine in as soon as possible but with all our duties form Head DJ+ and our normal dj duties as well, it was loaded.

Now with this Senior DJ being brought out again in trial I am guessing, it should ease the work for the Head DJs. No matter how good and experienced you are in that job, a little of help doesn't hurt. :)

+ Rep to you Jazz x

[lawrawrrr]

There are a few other people who would do well in the position, we considered quite a few as a Head DJ team, but the final chosen ones were all chosen on merit!

I'm sure if one of them doesn't handle it well, or when one of them eventually replaces one or more of the Head DJs, the people below will be considered.

But ******** to someone 'aaaah I can't believe I didn't get picked I so deserved that' doesn't actually help anyone's case, and makes us see you (not directing at anyone in particular but I'm sure they'll know who they are) as more after the power than anything else. Trust me, if you're done a good job as DJ, we've noted it for the future!

[despect]

I know quite a few deserved the role itself but didn't get promoted. Is it because they have their favorites? I am not saying the one's who are seniors doesn't deserve the promotion because you are right 2/4 worked hard for it for the past few months from when I was Head DJ. I even mentioned when I left who was even fit for my replacement but wasn't being considered I guess, well not yet. I am not saying Drewar is not fit at the position because he is doing fine from what I can see anyways.

But from what I can see , you have experience and they didn't consider you as senior at least? Odd.... Because you do have experience in the role and even as Head DJ if I am not mistaken. Yes oh right you do you use to be my Head DJ once if I can remember. I still say they should of considered you and a few others who deserved the spot.

+ rep to you Sam x


uhm what now? How would you know we didn't consider him :S there were plently of people who had the experience but we didn't choose them so perhaps you should try knowing the facts before actually saying something you actually know nothing about :).

[Rachel]

uhm what now? How would you know we didn't consider him :S there were plently of people who had the experience but we didn't choose them so perhaps you should try knowing the facts before actually saying something you actually know nothing about :).

I think I know how the hxl are well quite a few. We all have our opinions on people remember that James :)

I am not saying you are not doing your job right because you are James don't think me wrong here darling. x you are doing fab x

[Kyle]

ok since nobody is going togive me access to data can i ask

what is minimum dj slot requirement per dj
how many djs are posted away the moment and how long do people on average post away for

[despect]

I think I know how the hxl are well quite a few. We all have our opinions on people remember that James :)

You are not a manager though and you have NO idea whatsoever, what was discussed and why we put up the people we did. So actually you can't say omg you didn't consider him when you clearly have no idea at all.
Kyle; - 3 slots a week & I think only about 5 DJs are posted away, the online hours are actually improving each week :).

[Kyle]

things starting to get spicy

[Rachel]

You are not a manager though and you have NO idea whatsoever, what was discussed and why we put up the people we did. So actually you can't say omg you didn't consider him when you clearly have no idea at all.

Why tell me I am not manager and I have no idea??? I know I ain't manager so nothing new you are telling me here James....lol I am not against this Senior DJ thing at all and I know it will help but just I still see a few working as hard as them but they need to shine bright as well and not being noticeable.. anyways I am not here how to do your job, it is your choice but it always reflect after when you do a decision.

I always respected you James and always will

[Kyle]

, the online hours are actually improving each week :).
a steady improvement over a period of time or sporadically improving and then dropping based on dj numbers?

what do you think is contributing to these improvements?

[despect]

Why tell me I am not manager and I have no idea??? I know I ain't manager so nothing new you are telling me here James....lol I am not against this Senior DJ thing at all and I know it will help but just I still see a few working as hard as them but they need to shine bright as well and not being noticeable.. anyways I am not here how to do your job, it is your choice but it always reflect after when you do a decision.

But you clearly just said we didn't consider him so I fail to see how you actually know we didn't consider him? unless you are somehow a secret general manager that no-one knows about? I put up people because I feel they deserve it.. that isn't saying other people don't deserve it but I put up those who I feel are more suitable. Like I said there were a lot of people who have experience but they didn't get put up.


@Kyle (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=30795); - I'd say we have a pretty dedicated team who enjoy what they are doing so they are always keeping the radio online, I mean we went from like 10 people not meeting minimums to now only about 4.

[Rachel]

But you clearly just said we didn't consider him so I fail to see how you actually know we didn't consider him? unless you are somehow a secret general manager that no-one knows about? I put up people because I feel they deserve it.. that isn't saying other people don't deserve it but I put up those who I feel are more suitable. Like I said there were a lot of people who have experience but they didn't get put up.



No I am not a secret General Manager I am just sharing my thoughts about it. I do not care who is on the senior Team or Head DJ team just saying my opinion no need to climb the walls over it. Do whatever you want James , do what is best but just saying.

[despect]

No I am not a secret General Manager I am just sharing my thoughts about it. I do not care who is on the senior Team or Head DJ team just saying my opinion no need to climb the walls over it. Do whatever you want James , do what is best but just saying.

LOL i'm sorry you just said you don't care who is on the Senior DJ/Head DJ team yet you were complaining that Sam wasn't "considered"...

[lawrawrrr]

I'm so lost what's even going on in this argument what are you actually saying Rachel?

I know when I gave James my recommendations I considered EVERY DJ I've ever listened to/interacted with on their pros and cons!

[Rachel]

LOL i'm sorry you just said you don't care who is on the Senior DJ/Head DJ team yet you were complaining that Sam wasn't "considered"...

Just it was my opinion and an opinion stays an opinion. I am not bothering saying anything else in this thread after this post . I have nothing against hxl and their choices really but expect others opinion.


And I am not arguing if you think it is lol

[Chug!]

Rachel, i would never be considered lmao. thats not why i was moaning tho :L I didn't say anything about that.

I just think the role is no longer needed. Especially with 2 of those who have it, when they don't do anything anyway. but ok.

on the other side, a very good choice with the other 2. I won't name names because I don't want to upset anyone, but if management would like to know, pls do Skype me.

[IzzyUhh]

Rachel, i would never be considered lmao. thats not why i was moaning tho :L I didn't say anything about that.

I just think the role is no longer needed. Especially with 2 of those who have it, when they don't do anything anyway. but ok.

on the other side, a very good choice with the other 2. I won't name names because I don't want to upset anyone, but if management would like to know, pls do Skype me.

I think it's a good role, Not just saying it because I am one, but because in my opinion, It can help out head DJs quite a bit too with some of their minimums and can be helpful. I Was never at habbox when senior was actually here so it is quite new to me, & It was taken away for a reason, But it has also been brought back for a reason too :P

[Rachel]

Rachel, i would never be considered lmao. thats not why i was moaning tho :L I didn't say anything about that.

I just think the role is no longer needed. Especially with 2 of those who have it, when they don't do anything anyway. but ok.

on the other side, a very good choice with the other 2. I won't name names because I don't want to upset anyone, but if management would like to know, pls do Skype me.



Yeah I know you weren't talking about that but just you are working hard and deserve it as much as others deserve it! :) :P

[Kyle]

who is tasked with reviewing the shows of the seniors/heads so that they can improve?

[Rachel]

who is tasked with reviewing the shows of the seniors/heads so that they can improve?

That should be the HabboxLive Manager(s) tasks. Unless this has changed just recently?.

[Drunq]

There is an absolutely MASSIVE step between regular DJ and Head DJ, and even the most dedicated DJs have been known to struggle with it!

The biggest thing for me about bringing these roles back is making sure that we can tune in and feedback round the clock. Although technically any DJ could report to any of the Heads or James, they generally don't - with the Seniors brought in, the Senior+ team (8 of us - I'm still doing the Head role at the moment) can pretty much tune into every show, which means that DJs can have better feedback. Especially that it's more thorough (Seniors and Heads will both be providing better & more consistent feedback now), and more fair, as the Head may only be able to listen to one of their shows in the week, whereas this way the Senior under the Head will be able to fill in any holes the Head may have missed.

There's also the added bonus of more 'forced' events, we have the resources to do it but not many people use it, Seniors are also asked to host events each month!

And rewarding people for their work, it's shown in the past that if any staff member puts in lots of effort and it rarely gets recognised with promotions it can lead feeling a bit 'stale' - now whilst I completely disagree with arbitrary promotions, there are plenty of staff within HabboxLive who deserve a promotion, and can't commit to the Head role (as it's VERY time consuming), or could really help out - it's a fantastic step between the two.

Also like I just commented, the Head role is very time consuming, tuning into as many of your team's shows (you could have 10 DJs in your team, 3 slot MINIMUM, that's 30 hours a week!), writing feedback, doing your own shows, reports - it's not easy, and with the assistance of seniors it's just going to ease the Head role.

TOTALLY AGREE WITH U

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[-Moniquee.]

I think it is quite rude that people are saying that some of the seniors don't deserve it. We chose the four people based on the quality of their shows and their dedication and commitment to HabboxLive. General management, radio management and the current head DJ team collectively discussed who would fit this role and we considered everyone. Those four people deserve it, I am not saying no one else deserves it but it is so rude that people are saying the wrong people were picked.
All four of the senior DJs are already shining in their roles and doing what is expected of them.

[FlyingJesus]

I oppose the role itself not the people chosen but it's not rude to disagree with a bunch of teens making choices about their friends; the community is quite able to have their own opinions that don't match with those of the management clique

[Grig]

Seniors were needed as both a interim step to climb to Head and to relieve some pressure that were already being piled on top, with Heads just having way too much to do. Many inexperienced Heads that came in from a regular DJ in the past were unprepared and ended up falling through and getting removed within the first 2 months. We need this step to train future Heads too, for 2 spaces are currently open and neither myself nor James were able to find anyone to fill these for months.

People who got promoted, well, seem fine to me and were all solidified beforehand. However, I would have maybe done this as a smaller scale operation capping the number of seniors at 2/3 at first to see what affect it has as kind of a trial run. I do believe this is good, otherwise in a few months down the line, HxL would have had a fundamental staffing crisis, where there would be no confidence in promoting anyone and too many Head DJ spots needing to be filled. This way it goes smoother.

Hopefully the logic behind this decision explains it more and I'm sure it would be beneficial for the station's future.

[Chug!]

Seniors were needed as both a interim step to climb to Head and to relieve some pressure that were already being piled on top, with Heads just having way too much to do. Many inexperienced Heads that came in from a regular DJ in the past were unprepared and ended up falling through and getting removed within the first 2 months. We need this step to train future Heads too, for 2 spaces are currently open and neither myself nor James were able to find anyone to fill these for months.

People who got promoted, well, seem fine to me and were all solidified beforehand. However, I would have maybe done this as a smaller scale operation capping the number of seniors at 2/3 at first to see what affect it has as kind of a trial run. I do believe this is good, otherwise in a few months down the line, HxL would have had a fundamental staffing crisis, where there would be no confidence in promoting anyone and too many Head DJ spots needing to be filled. This way it goes smoother.

Hopefully the logic behind this decision explains it more and I'm sure it would be beneficial for the station's future.

This explains it very well, tbh.
I think the smaller scale thing would have been taken to better, if this is just a 'trial' but there we go.

And as for being told my opinion is basically invalid and I shouldn't say that two of them don't deserve it. I've not singled them out in front of everyone to humiliate them. I've said it as a generalisation. It's called having an opinion of which everyone is allowed to have; whether you agree or not, well thats a different matter.

We will see how it goes though - good luck to all new seniors, never the less.

[Kardan]

Kyle; - I don't have access to that data :P

Personally I don't see the point of this senior role. Firstly, if the Head DJ's are struggling with their load - why not just create more Head DJ's and spread the work? And secondly, it's going to mess up my Habbox Staff Structure diagram to hell :(

[iLogan]

Kyle; - I don't have access to that data :P

Personally I don't see the point of this senior role. Firstly, if the Head DJ's are struggling with their load - why not just create more Head DJ's and spread the work? And secondly, it's going to mess up my Habbox Staff Structure diagram to hell :(

Just gonna put my input regarding Seniors and Heads. I'm sure much has changed since I was the HxL manager but in my experience anyone who had a good grasp of what our expectations were and had dedicated many many hours towards the department (and had many more hours to dedicate) was a suitable candidate for the senior position. The seniors acted as the quality controllers of the department and had no responsibility when it came to actually dealing with issues within the department which, again from my experience, required someone with qualities which fewer people tend to possess. The Head DJs needed to be empathetic with DJs and understand how to communicate often negative feedback in a positive way in order to make sure it wasn't counter productive among other things. The more seniors the more reports we get on how the DJs are doing and the greater the understanding of how HxL is doing in regards to the quality front.