Do something BIG Habbox!

[Aiden]

I think Habbox should try and steal the attention away from other fansites. You smart people with ideas need to think of something which will get loads of people interested in Habbox again. At the moment the bit of hope is the coders and **.

All these im a celeb, christmas bonanza, habboxstars dont do anything lol

js you need a big idea to gain members and no offence but all them forum and radio things hardly help... :( sowwey

[e5]

I think Habbox should try and steal the attention away from other fansites. You smart people with ideas need to think of something which will get loads of people interested in Habbox again. At the moment the bit of hope is the coders and **.

All these im a celeb, christmas bonanza, habboxstars dont do anything lol

js you need a big idea to gain members and no offence but all them forum and radio things hardly help... :( sowwey

I don't think the jungle thing was to get new members but rather entertain the existing ones :P

We're always looking to actively do new things to attract members, but would love to see some new ideas. Have you got any?

[Aiden]

Not really lmfao. Why don't you DDoS ThisHabbo for 5 days non-stop and advertise on Habbo non-stop until you get new members? :)))))

i joke but yeah
all these things hx does just dont work :(

[e5]

Not really lmfao. Why don't you DDoS ThisHabbo for 5 days non-stop and advertise on Habbo non-stop until you get new members? :)))))

i joke but yeah
all these things hx does just dont work :(

Well instead of being so negative and not constructive at all, why don't you think of some suggestions before making such a thread :P

[Aiden]

because i don't work at hx

i'm just stating that habbox needs to focus on bigger ideas

so that is a suggestion tbqh

[lemons]

we need more boobs and maybe some negative publicity (get vado 2 help?)
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[e5]

because i don't work at hx

i'm just stating that habbox needs to focus on bigger ideas

so that is a suggestion tbqh

You don't need to work at habbox to have suggestions. We are one community.

I don't class "habbox needs to focus on bigger ideas" being a suggestion because it offers nothing. We pretty much already know this but having some suggestions would be great so we can work towards them.

[FlyingJesus]

Always the same responses. Pick from the following:


"There's something in the works"
"We're trying"
"WHY DON'T YOU SUGGEST SOMETHING"
"I'm posted away at the moment"
"......"


Never mind that certain people have actually taken on a role that demands they sort these things out and perpetually fail

[Jurv]

yeah i agree there needs to be something new but i guess it's just hard to think of new, original ideas

and e5; there's no problem with him making a thread, this'll just provide a platform for all those that do have ideas

[e5]

yeah i agree there needs to be something new but i guess it's just hard to think of new, original ideas

and e5; there's no problem with him making a thread, this'll just provide a platform for all those that do have ideas

Wasn't really a dig at him making the thread just see lots of negative posts from him with no ideas of solutions :P I agree its definitely a platform but there is a thread dedicated for that sort of thing already lol.

I personally have no ideas, so FlyingJesus; add that quote to your list (H)

[Aiden]

Wasn't really a dig at him making the thread just see lots of negative posts from him with no ideas of solutions :P I agree its definitely a platform but there is a thread dedicated for that sort of thing already lol.

I personally have no ideas, so FlyingJesus; add that quote to your list (H)

What negative stuff do I post? :L

Anyway, here's an idea, make V7. Do more big events. Try and get staff. Work on a mobile app. Work with other big Habbo communities like SWAT. Stop hiring ***** who can't handle harsh realities.

[sex]

my school will be the biggest thing to happen on habbo this century
get rdy
maybe i name a fountain after habbox

[Jurv]

Wasn't really a dig at him making the thread just see lots of negative posts from him with no ideas of solutions :P I agree its definitely a platform but there is a thread dedicated for that sort of thing already lol.

I personally have no ideas, so FlyingJesus; add that quote to your list (H)

well it obviously doesn't seem to be working so the more the better i guess!!

[e5]

What negative stuff do I post? :L

Stop hiring ***** who can't handle harsh realities.

:L

I don't think anyone can't any 'harsh realities' or however dramatic you want to make this sound. All I'm asking for is some new suggestions you think will actually gain new members.

If sex; is doing a school and advertises Habbox, that could help! wahay

[Aiden]

:L

I don't think anyone can't any 'harsh realities' or however dramatic you want to make this sound. All I'm asking for is some new suggestions you think will actually gain new members.

If sex; is doing a school and advertises Habbox, that could help! wahay

So you think we should walk around in Habbox tshirts to promote the fansite irl? :L

I already listed suggestions god.

V7
More big events on Habbo
Apps
Work with Habbo communities
Stop moaning about adblock lmfao

[e5]

So you think we should walk around in Habbox tshirts to promote the fansite irl? :L

I already listed suggestions god.

V7
More big events on Habbo
Apps
Work with Habbo communities
Stop moaning about adblock lmfao

I'm pretty sure it's a habbo-based school ;) (oh deary me)

We all know V7 will be a big hit and will be well advertised when it's ready. More events, yes, this is down to the events department really. What kind of apps?

[Aiden]

I'm pretty sure it's a habbo-based school ;) (oh deary me)

We all know V7 will be a big hit and will be well advertised when it's ready. More events, yes, this is down to the events department really. What kind of apps?

Mobile app but I don't even think that would make a difference really. I don't know what it'd do. I made a post about it like 1 year ago.

[Jurv]

We all know V7 will be a big hit and will be well advertised when it's ready. More events, yes, this is down to the events department really.

please don't say you still think v7 is actually going to happen? it's clearly just a poor excuse for not improving departments

and it isn't necessarily just down to the events department, a BIG event would need the whole of habbox to be included

[FlyingJesus]

Does anyone actually know what V7 is even supposed to be? As far as I can tell it's really just a new skin for the main site and perhaps 6 people will actually care about it

[-Nick]

What negative stuff do I post? :L

Anyway, here's an idea, make V7. Do more big events. Try and get staff. Work on a mobile app. Work with other big Habbo communities like SWAT. Stop hiring ***** who can't handle harsh realities.

They have already said about something about the IOS app - If someone is willin to pay £99? a year they said they'll make (attempt to make one).

[scottish]

What's the point in having app anyway open everything in browser or tapatalk.

[Aiden]

i know it's stupid tbqh

but aren't agms team meant to come up with this stuff

[e5]

Yeah, it was mentioned if someone would pay for the app they'd make one lol.

[Inseriousity.]

That's why I suggested an action plan to see what stuff they'd come up with. This was back in November, still nothing.
At least there's been some progress on the achievements system, I think that'd be good to appeal to a wider audience but there'd still need to be more ideas to get them over here. Promotion on Habbo is key.

[scottish]

Describes achievement system

[Mr-Trainor]

Achievements system is definitely a good idea but to me it seems like something that'd be for the existing users rather than persuading new users to join, but tbh I'm not sure I completely understand the concept anyway :P. I guess if there's a selection of fun tasks involved within the system then it'll be a reason for people to sign up though.
As for v7, I Agree with the point that when it's ready I'm sure it'll be great and hopefully come with a selection of new features and functionality. Shame it's taking so long though, and more importantly it's a shame that it seems to be Rare Values that's holding it up :(.

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Speaking of Rare Values, I think since the Marketplace never happened we should definitely be thinking of other features that can be added to the site to make a big impact. I don't know what's planned front-end to be honest, but for Rare Values it'd be nice to see an updated version of @-Danube- (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=69260);'s whole market concept which was turned down for v6. Turning the main categories in to markets could definitely be something that gives Rare Values some more functionality, with a wide array of statistics available for all users.

e.g. for each of the main categories (e.g. Classic Rares, Ice Cream Machines, Pillows, Branded Furni etc) there could be information on the overall value change on every item overall, ↑ 4.3%, and then listening the items which have made the biggest increases/decreases as a % of their base value which could be set as 1 week ago. And on the Rare Values homepage it could flick through the different categories, as well as having 'Rares of the Week' a bit like what @-:Undertaker:- (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=24233); chooses in his Rare Values Weekly, but would be based on which items have increased the most based on the change as a % of their base value.

This may all sound complicated, but if done correctly it could all be displayed simply so that it's easily understandable and it'll help make the Rare Values pages more dynamic imo.

[MKR&*42]

Nice ideas but they'd require people to actually do work.

i joke
or do i

[Inseriousity.]

No the basic tasks and getting prizes for it means it should appeal to newer users but yes that won't get them over here, more an attempt to keep them here when they do. Ideas will still need to be thought up to get them over.
Basically scott, it's the runescape tasks system adapted for habbox.

[Mr-Trainor]

They have already said about something about the IOS app - If someone is willin to pay £99? a year they said they'll make (attempt to make one).
It's around £60-70 a year, can't remember the exact amount. $99 in the US though :P. But I'm pretty sure Android apps would only require a £25 fee. If releasing an app it'd be good to have it available for both, but I'd say iOS is the priority.

An app could be good though, could have quick access to the events timetable, access to the open applications list, a Rare Values search box.. can't think of much :P. But if an app could be made, would it be used?

[FlyingJesus]

This thread is just raising more questions lmao

What is v7 supposed to achieve?
Why do we need a mobile app when all new phones have working browsers?
Why are we still pretending anyone other than rare values staff look at Hx rare values?
Will Sam ever do her job?

[Aiden]

To be honest we need to get rid of it. Can someone who can access to site stats tell us how many percent of the visits go to rares please?

I think we should do a petition or poll or something because it's stupid. We complain but never really do anything about it lol besides moan at AGM which isn't working. :(


Also I think that sounds good Mike. I'm not sure if I fully understand but you could have a like mini Habbo thingy going on. Do you know how you have Habbowood and them, is it possible to make like a flash game thingy which has little task things idk. But yeah I guess I do understand but can't explain.

[j0rd]

To be honest we need to get rid of it. Can someone who can access to site stats tell us how many percent of the visits go to rares please?

I think we should do a petition or poll or something because it's stupid. We complain but never really do anything about it lol besides moan at AGM which isn't working. :(


Also I think that sounds good Mike. I'm not sure if I fully understand but you could have a like mini Habbo thingy going on. Do you know how you have Habbowood and them, is it possible to make like a flash game thingy which has little task things idk. But yeah I guess I do understand but can't explain.

Poll won't work really. Most people who view the site rare values don't view the forum

[Aiden]

Poll won't work really. Most people who view the site rare values don't view the forum

Mhmmm what if they made a small pop up in the rares section for 3 days with a poll? That would get the attention of people who want it and if they really do then they'll vote.

[Bertie]

If we go by the polls and surveys which were done for Rare Values nearly a year ago then the majority of the people who entered wanted it to stay and actually used what the department offers. I guess we can do it again if you really want and see if any of those results have changed within the past 12 months.

[Kardan]

What benefits are there for getting rid of rare values?

[Bertie]

What benefits are there for getting rid of rare values?

The only benefit would to speed up the V7 coding if you believe in that. But at the end of the day there will still be a delay on getting it out with or without RVR at this moment in time until the Site Coder situation is sorted. There is not really any other benefits from what I can see.

[Aiden]

I'm not sure about this but isn't rares taking up the most effort on V7? I'm not sure Aiden.

[Phil]

This thread is just raising more questions lmao

What is v7 supposed to achieve?
Why do we need a mobile app when all new phones have working browsers?
Why are we still pretending anyone other than rare values staff look at Hx rare values?
Will Sam ever do her job?

Tom, I think it's about time that you give Sam a break. I know you think this whole "things are in the works" thing is bull and you can go ahead and think that if you want but it's not true.

This thread is about Habbox doing something big and at the moment, something big is already in the works and has been for weeks, probably even a motnh or two at that stage and that is Easter Eggstravanganza (or how ever you spell it lalala). She's been working her ass off trying to make it bigger than it ever has been before and she's pushing all managers to think of new ideas that will attract new members to the site and to entertain the ones that are here.

People go on like Sam has to bring out a new big exciting event every week but while you don't think she's doing anything for Habbox she's back there currently organising a big Event and even when it does come around to it, it will be her departments that are doing it so when Easter comes around will people still be saying she's doing nothing?

*+*ends rant*+*

I know the I'm a Habbo isn't exactly great for attracting new members but it's my first step in making the Forum Department more community orientated and if anyone has some ideas that the forum could do to attract new members I'd be delighted to listen.

[Kardan]

Well, V7 will never be released, so I'm not sure that counts as a benefit of getting rid of Rare Values. And if it did - surely that means we should scrap Rare Values when V7 actually does get released, and not right now.

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Tom, I think it's about time that you give Sam a break. I know you think this whole "things are in the works" thing is bull and you can go ahead and think that if you want but it's not true.

This thread is about Habbox doing something big and at the moment, something big is already in the works and has been for weeks, probably even a motnh or two at that stage and that is Easter Eggstravanganza (or how ever you spell it lalala). She's been working her ass off trying to make it bigger than it ever has been before and she's pushing all managers to think of new ideas that will attract new members to the site and to entertain the ones that are here.

People go on like Sam has to bring out a new big exciting event every week but while you don't think she's doing anything for Habbox she's back there currently organising a big Event and even when it does come around to it, it will be her departments that are doing it so when Easter comes around will people still be saying she's doing nothing?

*+*ends rant*+*

I know the I'm a Habbo isn't exactly great for attracting new members but it's my first step in making the Forum Department more community orientated and if anyone has some ideas that the forum could do to attract new members I'd be delighted to listen.

I have a jungle feedback thread already drafted (sad I know), but I'm waiting till the competition is over for me to post it :P

[Aiden]

That's what I meant, just stop working on it and leave it until the update... update... lol...

[Bertie]

Well, V7 will never be released, so I'm not sure that counts as a benefit of getting rid of Rare Values. And if it did - surely that means we should scrap Rare Values when V7 actually does get released, and not right now.

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I have a jungle feedback thread already drafted (sad I know), but I'm waiting till the competition is over for me to post it :P

Yeah scrapping RVR right this minute would do nothing at all in terms of benefits.

[Kardan]

That's what I meant, just stop working on it and leave it until the update... update... lol...

Stop working on what? Why would stopping RV now have any positive impact?

[Aiden]

I mean from a developing side. Does it even get developed anyways?

[Kardan]

Well, to be fair I don't think stopping development on the RV part of V7 will benefit anyone because either:

1) None of RV has been developed
2) Nothing is being developed at the moment because there is no site coder

[Aiden]

I'm I just speaking to a wall?

If Habbox don't include rares in V7, that's one less thing to focus on when there's site coders. Surely there's loads of people willing to work at Habbox fgs.

[scottish]

Why work for free on habbox when I could get paid for work elsewhere

I'm sure most coders think like that.

[Kardan]

I'm I just speaking to a wall?

If Habbox don't include rares in V7, that's one less thing to focus on when there's site coders. Surely there's loads of people willing to work at Habbox fgs.

Well that's for the future - right now, it won't change anything at all, and who knows when that will have an impact considering V7 has taken so long.

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Why work for free on habbox when I could get paid for work elsewhere

I'm sure most coders think like that.

Time for Habbox to get out the HC Sofas!

[Aiden]

Why work for free on habbox when I could get paid for work elsewhere

I'm sure most coders think like that.

I dunno I'm sure there's a handful of people who do want to... Habbox's is a fairly popular site which they might want to make there mark on... I don't know. I don't really think or do this stuff so sorry.

[scottish]

Well the actual coders seem to be the older people in the community so more likely to go elsewhere and get paid for work rather than volunteer on habbox say like most people who are at school..

Imho

[Phil]

I have a jungle feedback thread already drafted (sad I know), but I'm waiting till the competition is over for me to post it :P

I can probably predict what's going to be in it, maybe I should start drafting a reply! :P
I'm looking forward to it though (not even sarcasm)

[rnix]

an habbox app sounds good.
Things like;
Radio, News Notifications, Rare values on the go, event timetable and alerts for when events are starting,guides and goodies. Integrating the forum.

just saying

[Aiden]

I think the app idea has been dismissed. :(

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=760226

[Inseriousity.]

maybe hx could come up with some games again like they did before. habbox flappy bird? guide matt's head through some habbox banners.

coding again i suppose. jin is currently making a loss on habbox so if v7 is going to merge hxl and hx together would the overall saving on that be worth the investment of paying for a freelance site coder every now and again. sorry if this is way off base, I dont really know much about costings.

[Aiden]

I wonder how much the wiki cost? I doubt it's a lot but a bit lol. It does have 6k images on it. I don't even know if that's a lot either.

[FlyingJesus]

Tom, I think it's about time that you give Sam a break.

Phil, I think it's about time she did her job and stopped making up excuses as she has and other Community AGMs have for the last couple of years "working" here


People go on like Sam has to bring out a new big exciting event every week but while you don't think she's doing anything for Habbox she's back there currently organising a big Event

I don't think anyone's said that ever actually. It's more the fact that she has not satisfactorily completed a single task as of yet; the Habbox Awards were a sham from start to finish, the actual giving of awards came months late because she couldn't be bothered with it, and she completely missed an entire fansite event putting our entire status in jeopardy as well as giving every competitor a free shot at being more popular.

Nice of you to miss out all of the other points in my posts to focus on your poor chum being told off while managing to actually use the "there's something in the works" line - obviously the fact that we've had zero big events since HxSS is of no consequence because *+*ONE DAY*+* we'll have one. I by no means think Sam's the only one to blame (the whole debacle of nothing at all being done for our 10 year anniversary comes to mind) but when you take on a role as representative of a community the hits do land on you when it's failing so fantastically. If anyone wants to answer my questions rather than tell me off for not being amazed by the vacuum of fun that is general management that would be fab

[Inseriousity.]

still going on about nothing being done when it's been pointed out to you several times that several things were done. just because you're too blind to see what's right under your nose doesn't mean they weren't.

[Sian]

i dont know if it's possible, or how much work it would take, but a custom habbox mini arcade thing would be quite awesome, with our own unique games, probably would be almost impossible to do though.

[FlyingJesus]

still going on about nothing being done when it's been pointed out to you several times that several things were done. just because you're too blind to see what's right under your nose doesn't mean they weren't.

No she wrote a list once saying a load of stuff that she hadn't done yet, not quite the same thing as showing that several things have been done

[Inseriousity.]

Oh I'm talking about the anniversary thing where I did post a list of everything that'd been done.

Just in case you've forgotten:

Anniversary events

Murder mystery. Sadly not the big success I'd hoped it would be but that's the risk you take when you try to think outside the box and do something different than just another tournament. The plot had a link to the Habbox anniversary and it is part of the story. It also references Jin and Sierk's trip to the Northern lights and the whole 'are they a couple?' joke that only old Habboxers would get.

Retro week - Events department went back in time with their event rooms and hosted events as they would've been hosted by events organisers of old.

HxHD layout - Changed to an older version.

Forum Balloon Hunt - Balloons hidden round a forum.

Habbox Quiz - Quiz about Habbox history.

Happy Hour - Extra tokens twice on the anniversary

Competitions - Using old recurring competitions from the past.

HxL - Past DJs returning

Retro site - Old site with the old Habbox games on it

Also a forum dedicated to it, a news report, a forum announcement, free lottery oh and a Habbo badge specially designed for it.

But yes that's nothing.

[Aiden]

i dont know if it's possible, or how much work it would take, but a custom habbox mini arcade thing would be quite awesome, with our own unique games, probably would be almost impossible to do though.

Probably more possible if you get someone who can make them. I'm sure you can use pretty simple programs to make flash games idek.

[FlyingJesus]

Anniversary events

Murder mystery. Sadly not the big success I'd hoped it would be but that's the risk you take when you try to think outside the box and do something different than just another tournament. The plot had a link to the Habbox anniversary and it is part of the story. It also references Jin and Sierk's trip to the Northern lights and the whole 'are they a couple?' joke that only old Habboxers would get.

Retro week - Events department went back in time with their event rooms and hosted events as they would've been hosted by events organisers of old.

HxHD layout - Changed to an older version.

Forum Balloon Hunt - Balloons hidden round a forum.

Habbox Quiz - Quiz about Habbox history.

Happy Hour - Extra tokens twice on the anniversary

Competitions - Using old recurring competitions from the past.

HxL - Past DJs returning

Retro site - Old site with the old Habbox games on it

Forgive us for not getting overly excited about badly made rooms and two forum comps. It should have been a huge festival-type deal (especially with how much it was hyped up) with some effort put in and huge involvement all round, not an in-joke from the staff forums and a bit of recycling

[Inseriousity.]

That's still not nothing so it's stupid to suggest otherwise. I don't really see how a murder mystery is recycling, it was a totally brand new idea incorporating habboxlive, habbo and the forum. It didn't work as well as hoped but that is what happens when you try to think outside the box rather than recycling old ideas.

You can add a Habbo badge to that list too.

[rnix]

I used to love the Habbox dress up game

[Kardan]

The Habbox Anniv. was pretty disappointing to be honest, I'm hoping the 10 year anniv of the forum (COUGH, COUGH - A FEW MONTHS AWAY) will be more exciting.

[Inseriousity.]

As the big event was the murder mystery and not as successful as hoped then I will concede that the anniversary was not likely to be as amazing as it should've been but definitely not 'nothing.' The general point about general management, myself included, not doing as much as should've been done - I've already discussed this in detail elsewhere - is definitely true though, it's a shame that a poor example had to be used. My biggest regret is not doing the achievements system myself. I will continue to say that I feel that matt's indifference or 'meh' attitude is not a conductive environment for getting things done but that doesn't mean it's impossible so the responsibility for that does have to lie with me, jade and possibly sam, laura, chris (time will tell).

[Kardan]

I'm still waiting to see what Sam, Laura and Chris are going to do. I mean, to me at least, it still feels like the previous AGM team are in charge, there's literally nothing different at the moment. I mean, if Sam, Laura and Chris had their names changed to the previous AGMs, it would be exactly the same :P

I suppose I should wait for the first proper event (other than the awards I guess) to judge them. Just all feels slow at the moment. And how long has news been in limbo now? A month?

[Aiden]

I still think that Mike's idea of a radio play would be really good. I'm going to write one and make whoever runs the radio make it! I just need a storyline mhmmm.....

[lemons]

*ALERT ALERT* KYLE IS ON HIS WAY TO FEEDBACK FORUM!

http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/thread.gif


o/t i agree with everything that has been said, but an app is not needed lol...

[lawrawrrr]

I'm pretty much done with my first project as AGM, hoping to get it public this week! It's kinda hard being Content AGM, especially with some departments the way they are (sad face) but I'm hoping to make a difference in small ways, which I hope will be noticed.

V7, I've actually had a look now but like other people have said there's nothing anyone can do until it's finished coding, which is putting a massive block on Habbox as it's a... lets wait for that before we do anything, become kind of an excuse. I think for me that's actually kinda good, because I can't code at all, that means I'll be focusing on the current website and improving what I can rather than focusing all my energy on V7, although I do also have a couple things lined up for that.

I've spent this month reviewing all the departments under me as well, having a proper look round and will be providing comprehesive reports for the end of the quarter for improvement over the next few months, as well as action plans which have been sent to the other GMs and awaiting discussion.

Erm if anyone has any other questions or suggestions feel free to let me know! Although don't shout at me, I'm in a really good moo for once and kinda wanna stay that way!

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oh and I think an app is unnecessary and the money could be better spent elsewhere (like paying a coder to get **** done)

[dbgtz]

bring back hxtv

[lawrawrrr]

bring back hxtv
We'll see.

[rnix]

bring back hxtv


Haha

Edited by Wispur (Assistant General Manager (Staff)): Please do not make pointless posts.

[dbgtz]

We'll see.

I really hope this is a wind up, hxtv would flop (again)

[lawrawrrr]

I really hope this is a wind up, hxtv would flop (again)

IF, and that's a big if because it's a lot of work, it was to return I doubt it would be on a permanent basis.

[dbgtz]

IF, and that's a big if because it's a lot of work, it was to return I doubt it would be on a permanent basis.

Well for habboxenders and hxtv doctor who yeah though they blew me away back in the day

Has it been considered using it as a means of hosting events? For example, with the most recent I'm a Habbo competition the idea of hxtv could be used and instead of having a thread with all discussion you have idk a skype call recording for say an hour a day of which users can complete the task, pretty much a podcast with some competition skype line being able to be called out of those hours for those private conversations or w/e it is

[lawrawrrr]

I've considered a lot of options which cover all sort of departments, I really like that idea though :)


on phone xx

[Kardan]

A Habbox podcast with good people and a weekly guest sounds like a half decent idea if they took about interesting stuff.

[Inseriousity.]

I suggested a habbox podcast to jade when she was hxl manager but she didn't get the idea lol. I think itd be good to have non-djs talking about habbo(x) with fun games, comps, discussion. i dont think jade got it though because it sounds just like a regular radio show so maybe general management + 1 guest could do it and the guest gets to question the management. might make it different or something else to make it stand out.

[dbgtz]

A Habbox podcast with good people and a weekly guest sounds like a half decent idea if they took about interesting stuff.

yeah
and tailing that some decent duos and more slots for specific genres or types of music to appeal to a wider audience would be great rather than playing the same chart music over and over like every other fansite. DJs taking requests all the time can also be bloody boring. I know this is slightly off topic but I felt it needed to be said.

[rnix]

I think we all know that Habbox isn't what it used to be. Upon browsing announcements from 5 years ago, you would have batches of 10/12 trialists for some departments every week. Now you're lucky to have 1 a week. I think Habbox members need to stop holding out for something big and amazing and to be blown away by. It's nearly impossible with a limited amount of money and a game which some people are getting bored of, and the small number of staff. BUT on the other hand, people should do their jobs and if they don't feel like it then they shouldn't be in that position, I don't want to point the finger. But since I came back to Habbox in December I've saw Samantha active about 10 times.
It's a shame to see it happening but Habbox is slowly dying out and without the right support throughout the fansite this won't change. (I hope this makes sense I'm falling asleep)

[Kardan]

I suggested a habbox podcast to jade when she was hxl manager but she didn't get the idea lol. I think itd be good to have non-djs talking about habbo(x) with fun games, comps, discussion. i dont think jade got it though because it sounds just like a regular radio show so maybe general management + 1 guest could do it and the guest gets to question the management. might make it different or something else to make it stand out.

I was thinking mainly non-Habbox topics with the odd Habbox thing thrown in every now and again - I wouldn't really want to listen to 10 minutes on how the news department is going to change for the better and how HxHD has changed layouts for the 30th time this week.

[Phil]

I actually think the podcast thing is a great idea but for attracting more users, it'd need be somewhat Habbo based too.

[Kyle]

still unsure why the content agm role exists. it pretty much covers overseeing other departments but laura has potential to do so much more.

I remember in 1 of my feedback threads for 'doing something big' I suggested an interactive magazine added to by all staff teams and allowing for non-staff to have special features within it. I believe a code was found and a few staff members were on board but like all new suggestions to habbox it was slowly disregarded as the management team focused on trying to improve stagnant features.

don't think it's a case of doing 'something' big. it's a case of doing A LOT OF big things.

will post more tomorrow after I wash the stench of bolt660 and goldenmerc off me, thanks for posting this Skandair.

[Phil]

Kyle; I think I vaguely remember that suggestion. It was kind of like a newsletter type thing?

[Kyle]

well I use the term magazine cos that's what it was, more than a newsletter.

it would encompass all the dead content competitions and who knows what else. a weekly/biweekly blog from a member of management perhaps. creative competitions - writing, drawing. endless possibilities.
looks like habbo itself as actually taken the idea and ran with it in the form of habbo stories, but I still like the idea of it being an interactive magazine type thing.

[Drew]

I like the magazine/newsletter idea. Where do I find this thread?

[Kyle]

I wouldn't have a clue m8. this was years ago, so good luck sifting through my feedback posts.

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@Drew (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=118080);
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?p=7404148#post7404148
mwah

the thread is richie's so it's largely centered around his specific area of the radio (just noticed that every regular feedback poster has a specific area) but there are a few good points worth reraising should management wish to read the thread again. bolt has a wonderful post a few pages in from what I remember.

[Drew]

I wouldn't have a clue m8. this was years ago, so good luck sifting through my feedback posts.

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@Drew (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=118080);
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?p=7404148#post7404148
mwah

the thread is richie's so it's largely centered around his specific area (just noticed that every regular feedback poster has a specific area) but there are a few good points worth reraising should management wish to read the thread again. bolt has a wonderful post a few pages in from what I remember.
Cheers :D

[Drewar]

I love the idea of a magazine and I love the idea of a podcast.

I'd really like to see both of these ideas come to fruition.

[Rachel]

I know for the magazine part, it was quite popular at the time at another fansite I worked at. It had variety that users likes and sometimes attract new people towards the forum.

It is the same thing with podcasts. It was popular from 2008 to 2010 where I worked. It might work here as well if they put this as trial :)

[-Nick]

This thread is just raising more questions lmao

What is v7 supposed to achieve?
Why do we need a mobile app when all new phones have working browsers?
Why are we still pretending anyone other than rare values staff look at Hx rare values?
Will Sam ever do her job?

1) Its suppose to have better features!
2) as luke just said above
3) people in casions & trade city look at the values when they are trading as it can be more reliable than the market place
4) i generally think sam is doing the best she can, if shes not around much, shes either planning a big event or away.

[Chris]

The magazine and podcast are nice ideas and are both something that we could probably do quite easily. We will have to start building a list of these features that people want and try to stick to it. At the moment my priority is the achievements system, so if all goes well that should be out soon.

[Nick]

I was in graphics when the magazine idea was suggested and we made a few pages on it etc although it was a big flop.

[FlyingJesus]

"Better features" isn't an answer :P what features are these, and why are they needed? Most of the failings of Habbox are down to lack of human effort rather than not having an extra button or two, so I still don't see why we've been constantly told to wait for v7 to fix everything while mangers idle and staff drop like flies. Also a little underwhelming (although now expected) that even content designers don't know what it's meant to be lol

[Kardan]

What will people use as an excuse if V7 comes out?

[dbgtz]

well I use the term magazine cos that's what it was, more than a newsletter.

it would encompass all the dead content competitions and who knows what else. a weekly/biweekly blog from a member of management perhaps. creative competitions - writing, drawing. endless possibilities.
looks like habbo itself as actually taken the idea and ran with it in the form of habbo stories, but I still like the idea of it being an interactive magazine type thing.

wasn't there an entire fansite which presented itself as a magazine many years back which just flopped?

[Samantha]

I'm not ignoring this thread, I'll be replying after I finish work if not before!

Also I was there when we did the magazine, it included staff in the same departments at each other's throats until we said enough. I remember being a Senior News Reporter at the time I believe.

I'll reply to all the other points when I can, which will be soon.

[Aiden]

OMG if you make the podcast invite people from the forum...


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[Nick]

Maybe hxl management can post a thread and people can give ideas for topics on the discussions wether it be real life happenings such as the Malaysian air lines or recent staff changes on habbox.

[Kyle]

I was in graphics when the magazine idea was suggested and we made a few pages on it etc although it was a big flop.
were other staff teams on board or just gfx?

wasn't there an entire fansite which presented itself as a magazine many years back which just flopped?
idk. the magazine I referred to was on habbohut and since that site was only really frequented by australian users it wasn't really as active as habbox has the potential to be.

any idea can be good with the right backing from all departments as well as the community.
Samanfa; define at eachothers throats

[Nick]

were other staff teams on board or just gfx?

idk. the magazine I referred to was on habbohut and since that site was only really frequented by australian users it wasn't really as active as habbox has the potential to be.

any idea can be good with the right backing from all departments as well as the community.
Samanfa; define at eachothers throats

It was graphics and news but graphics staff were getting down each others throats, if you read the thread its probably more of an argument than trying to discuss it

[Samantha]

were other staff teams on board or just gfx?

idk. the magazine I referred to was on habbohut and since that site was only really frequented by australian users it wasn't really as active as habbox has the potential to be.

any idea can be good with the right backing from all departments as well as the community.
Samanfa; define at eachothers throats

Wanted to do the same job on the magazine when only one space was available, tried arguing why the other was a better candidate for the job etc. probably about stuff going in the magazine too.

[FlyingJesus]

Then clearly we need some decent leadership

[Nick]

I'd say the current state of the graphics team they could do a better job than the last attempt. We just need FJ to be news manager!

[Samantha]

Then clearly we need some decent leadership

It was years ago when different managers were leading it, I don't think the departments came to a final decision of what to put in the magazine either, did they Nick;?

Oh, I agree there Nick definitely the graphics team, the news team has the dedication to do it, but currently no manager :(.

[Nick]

It was years ago when different managers were leading it, I don't think the departments came to a final decision of what to put in the magazine either, did they Nick;?

Oh, I agree there Nick definitely the graphics team, the news team has the dedication to do it, but currently no manager :(.

Yeah, i know cameron wanted music haha. I think another reason was we had no one to code it i don't think. Tom was going to try but im not sure if he did it.

[Kyle]

is there a list of competitions hosted by departments other than comps that are still running? can someone compile 1?

to be honest it could still work without coding.

[Kardan]

I assume the reason that news is managerless is because management are still discussing a scrap/merge?

[Nick]

is there a list of competitions hosted by departments other than comps that are still running? can someone compile 1?

to be honest it could still work without coding.

Downloadable PDF haha.

It would be cool if it was coded because you could flip and tear pages with your mouse etc like habbohuts.

[FlyingJesus]

Why is coding an issue for a magazine it's just images surely

[Kyle]

there's another thing.

if you're going to do something, do it. most decisions are treated as some gormet meal, left to marinate in their own juices at room temp. for 2 weeks and then just thrown away or implemented poorly. see: hxl/habbox merge.

[Nick]

Why is coding an issue for a magazine it's just images surely

http://frankenteddy.deviantart.com/art/HabboHut-Teen-Magazine-Issue-1-61414807

I'd actually like to see to attempted again to be honest. I think it could be done

[Drew]

is there a list of competitions hosted by departments other than comps that are still running? can someone compile 1?

to be honest it could still work without coding.
Graphics is currently doing Monthly Graphics Competitions, if that's what you're asking for?

I had a look at the HabboHut magazine today and they did it with Flash, but I think it can be done with HTML5 and jQuery much more easily. If we do go forward with the idea, I don't think the responsibility should just be passed on to Graphics, News or Content. I think every Habbox department should play a part in it, and non-Habbox staff should be allowed to pitch in too.

[Nick]

Graphics is currently doing Monthly Graphics Competitions, if that's what you're asking for?

I had a look at the HabboHut magazine today and they did it with Flash, but I think it can be done with HTML5 and jQuery much more easily. If we do go forward with the idea, I don't think the responsibility should just be passed on to Graphics, News or Content. I think every Habbox department should play a part in it, and non-Habbox staff should be allowed to pitch in too.

Yeah every department should be able to pitch in because each of them should be entitled to their own page(s) but im sure how non staff will :S?

[Drew]

Yeah every department should be able to pitch in because each of them should be entitled to their own page(s) but im sure how non staff will :S?
Possibly allowing them to send gossip (Habbo screenshots), letters to the editor etc. to someone in charge of the magazine, and they can pick a few good ones to put on it. Just a few ideas off the top of my head :P

[Nick]

Possibly allowing them to send gossip (Habbo screenshots), letters to the editor etc. to someone in charge of the magazine, and they can pick a few good ones to put on it. Just a few ideas off the top of my head :P

Ah yeah, sounds really cool :)

[FlyingJesus]

http://www.flipsnack.com/

[sex]

Achievements system is definitely a good idea but to me it seems like something that'd be for the existing users rather than persuading new users to join, but tbh I'm not sure I completely understand the concept anyway :P. I guess if there's a selection of fun tasks involved within the system then it'll be a reason for people to sign up though.
As for v7, I Agree with the point that when it's ready I'm sure it'll be great and hopefully come with a selection of new features and functionality. Shame it's taking so long though, and more importantly it's a shame that it seems to be Rare Values that's holding it up :(.

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Speaking of Rare Values, I think since the Marketplace never happened we should definitely be thinking of other features that can be added to the site to make a big impact. I don't know what's planned front-end to be honest, but for Rare Values it'd be nice to see an updated version of @-Danube- (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=69260);'s whole market concept which was turned down for v6. Turning the main categories in to markets could definitely be something that gives Rare Values some more functionality, with a wide array of statistics available for all users.

e.g. for each of the main categories (e.g. Classic Rares, Ice Cream Machines, Pillows, Branded Furni etc) there could be information on the overall value change on every item overall, ↑ 4.3%, and then listening the items which have made the biggest increases/decreases as a % of their base value which could be set as 1 week ago. And on the Rare Values homepage it could flick through the different categories, as well as having 'Rares of the Week' a bit like what @-:Undertaker:- (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=24233); chooses in his Rare Values Weekly, but would be based on which items have increased the most based on the change as a % of their base value.

This may all sound complicated, but if done correctly it could all be displayed simply so that it's easily understandable and it'll help make the Rare Values pages more dynamic imo.

habbo already shows you increases, decreases, number of sales for the past week. it will be much more accurate than anything habbox could ever produce, im sorry. you need to accept your department is not needed beyond ltds and teleports and stop it holding up v7

[Inseriousity.]

I worked on the Habbohut one for a brief period, was good and well put together (when it worked, it rarely seemed to work for me). With the news department in limbo at the moment, it would be good timing to put that in place. Don't think the department needs a manager to get that into motion.

[sex]

magazine andpopcast will flop as does everything habbox does lol
there wont be enough detail, promotion, enough original ideas.

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habbox is the windows vista of operating systems ~.~

[MKR&*42]

Magazine gonna need a lot of people to help work on it as last time people just got lazy which is why it failed ultimately. It's a good idea if people do actually committed to it :}

[xxMATTGxx]

I wonder how much the wiki cost? I doubt it's a lot but a bit lol. It does have 6k images on it. I don't even know if that's a lot either.

There isn't a cost to the wiki - Not sure why you think there would be unless you think each Habbox site has it's own separate hosting package?

[Aiden]

There isn't a cost to the wiki - Not sure why you think there would be unless you think each Habbox site has it's own separate hosting package?

it takes up space

space = money

maybe im wrong idek

[Kyle]

time to start charging people for every forum post they make

[xxMATTGxx]

it takes up space

space = money

maybe im wrong idek

The Wiki doesn't take up a huge amount of space and seeing as we have tons of room on the server then it's not that much of a problem. If I remember rightly we have the following hard drives (2x 1TB and 1x 120GB SSD) and I would say we use around 32GB for files/system, 23GB for databases and 23GB for website files.

[Mr-Trainor]

I'm I just speaking to a wall?

If Habbox don't include rares in V7, that's one less thing to focus on when there's site coders. Surely there's loads of people willing to work at Habbox fgs.

habbo already shows you increases, decreases, number of sales for the past week. it will be much more accurate than anything habbox could ever produce, im sorry. you need to accept your department is not needed beyond ltds and teleports and stop it holding up v7

So why don't we just scrap every department and keep only one, then it'll much easier to focus on just one thing.. I think you're missing the point. This thread is about how to bring more people to Habbox. Scrapping Rare Values seems to me like one less reason for people to come to Habbox?

Anyway, as already mentioned by Bertie; (never thought I'd be saying that!) the results of the last survey actually showed a considerable interest remains in the Rare Values section of Habbox and the uses go far beyond LTDs and teleporters! Have you ever tried choosing the right rare to invest in? Try doing that with just the marketplace, where all you can see is the last 30 days of values. Habbox on the other hand provides a lot more information and goes back over a year (and although we can't see it, the graphs can go back since the beginning of v6 if I'm not mistaken as I remember someone extended the graphs for a short period of time recently to see the Thrones value over that 3 year period), and I know I'm not the only one that finds it extremely useful if not interesting too. What about all the items that are not listed in the marketplace? There is currently 2646 items listed, but on Habbo there's in excess of 4500 items - that's over 2000 items on Habbox Rare Values that you can not currently find through the marketplace.

Having said that, I have no problem with another survey being done if that's what people want to see. But my question is, why Rare Values and not any other department? Is it just because you'd like v7 to be released quicker or is there more to it? I'll also just add that for the past 20 months the Rare Values department has set a new record for that month on the amount of values updated, with almost 3000 updates since the beginning of this year despite the relatively small department. If anyone wants me to post the graphs then just ask :).

[Aiden]

Getting rid of rares could result in v7 faster which means more interest in that site which means more members. But don't worry, it's not your fault you've been fixed with the worst department. :P

I don't want HxR but I think it's pointless but that's just me.

[Mr-Trainor]

Getting rid of rares could result in v7 faster which means more interest in that site which means more members. But don't worry, it's not your fault you've been fixed with the worst department. :P
So the only reason was to speed up v7? Recursion; said a few pages back that scrapping Rare Values right now would have no benefit :P. But anyway, what makes it 'the worst department'?

[FlyingJesus]

A survey asking Habbox users if they use Habbox is not really proof of the necessity of a defunct department. It is essentially, as your post really shows, a museum; s something of a fossil myself I am well able to to recognise such a thing

[Aiden]

So the only reason was to speed up v7? Recursion; said a few pages back that scrapping Rare Values right now would have no benefit :P. But anyway, what makes it 'the worst department'?

I don't know the stats for each department but rares seem to be the least used department. I'm not sure but it's down near the bottom.

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[karter]

literally nobody uses rare values and no one will use it ever plzzz its a waste of time

[Grig]

You say do something big and I fully agree. I mentioned this point in some feedback thread quite a while ago.

As for podcasts and this newsletter, I was heavily involved in both. We tried doing podcasts in 2008, and that was a pretty cool idea. It was basically stuff related to HxL- so that would be music review, chart roundup etc. It got stopped to it required one golden thing, effort and no one could be bothered to continue, so that was that.

Then there was the newsletter, in which I had to sit there listening to 5 year old arguments over who would get the music section. I swear this lasted days and can't remember how we resolved this at the end of the day. It was a brilliant concept and we had writers, not sure how strong they are now. My guess would be not really. If you don't have people who can write in an engaging way, that idea becomes more difficult to execute. I'm sure if it's expanded to being a more Habbox-wide thing, involving the community, then it could work out really well. Heck, I don't even mind writing or editing stuff if need be.

It is in a state of limbo atm, and this thread does get you to reflect, but where is Habbox now? People are too complacent, too status quo. Then when I accuse them of being status quo, they say no no no and a few days later end up recycling an idea. That is the problem and it's a deeply embedded ethos.

Yesterday, I decided to check out ThisHabbo for the first time in ages. Their radio was at the same level as Hx', but everything else is stronger. In actual fact, they were complaining why events was so dead even though they had an event at the time with 40 people. To them, that was not good enough. Now you can see how deeply Habbox has faltered. We have loads of great people here who all have their hearts in the right places, but it takes more than that.

Another example, is I go on to a very well forum integrated news department over there and see it being on the front-lines, i.e. one of their key department that is popular and well respected- the complete antithesis of Habbox' news department at present. This brings me to the point, where are the changes at news that have been in discussion and I recall FlyingJesus; bringing this up every few months. You had a manager who failed to achieve that, yet got promoted and the department is in limbo and has been for years now. The problem is acknowledged, but we have no one gutsy enough to implement this. Rather, again, it goes back to the status quo.

[Tyler]

well yeah, radio and forum things wont get people because u need to be on the site to see it. Ofcause u need inhabbo things

(Waits for people to moan at me)

[Grig]

well yeah, radio and forum things wont get people because u need to be on the site to see it. Ofcause u need inhabbo things

(Waits for people to moan at me)

Incorrect, radio gets more 'new' people than any other department. HxL also hires more new staff who were never with Habbox before but stay and become great members of the community. Your argument makes no sense and seems invalid here!

[Kardan]

What I don't understand is people bickering about who gets what. As a manager, they should just delegate, and if they don't like it, tell them to deal with it.

[Samantha]

You say do something big and I fully agree. I mentioned this point in some feedback thread quite a while ago.

As for podcasts and this newsletter, I was heavily involved in both. We tried doing podcasts in 2008, and that was a pretty cool idea. It was basically stuff related to HxL- so that would be music review, chart roundup etc. It got stopped to it required one golden thing, effort and no one could be bothered to continue, so that was that.

Then there was the newsletter, in which I had to sit there listening to 5 year old arguments over who would get the music section. I swear this lasted days and can't remember how we resolved this at the end of the day. It was a brilliant concept and we had writers, not sure how strong they are now. My guess would be not really. If you don't have people who can write in an engaging way, that idea becomes more difficult to execute. I'm sure if it's expanded to being a more Habbox-wide thing, involving the community, then it could work out really well. Heck, I don't even mind writing or editing stuff if need be.

It is in a state of limbo atm, and this thread does get you to reflect, but where is Habbox now? People are too complacent, too status quo. Then when I accuse them of being status quo, they say no no no and a few days later end up recycling an idea. That is the problem and it's a deeply embedded ethos.

Yesterday, I decided to check out ThisHabbo for the first time in ages. Their radio was at the same level as Hx', but everything else is stronger. In actual fact, they were complaining why events was so dead even though they had an event at the time with 40 people. To them, that was not good enough. Now you can see how deeply Habbox has faltered. We have loads of great people here who all have their hearts in the right places, but it takes more than that.

Another example, is I go on to a very well forum integrated news department over there and see it being on the front-lines, i.e. one of their key department that is popular and well respected- the complete antithesis of Habbox' news department at present. This brings me to the point, where are the changes at news that have been in discussion and I recall FlyingJesus; bringing this up every few months. You had a manager who failed to achieve that, yet got promoted and the department is in limbo and has been for years now. The problem is acknowledged, but we have no one gutsy enough to implement this. Rather, again, it goes back to the status quo.

Oh, you were there too - I don't think it even got sorted, it sort of fizzled out and the time and work spent was wasted as I remember :odey:; making great graphics for the sections like *your* Twitter section (I can't remember if the Twitter part was yours).

Also, going to go through the thread again and add to my reply whilst I am free :).

[wixard]

no no no

stick to the status quo

[Samantha]

Let's see, I probably won't have commented on everything (might have missed them), however, I'll try my best :P.

Skandair; unfortunately, the on Habbo events do bring in new faces, especially ones such as HxSS with how big a scale event it is - I think this comes from the team aspect and it being the biggest event we do. However, the other such as I'm a Habbo, and HabboxStarz to some extent then it's mainly (not fully, but mainly) a way to interest the users that already come on here, although HabboxStarz has seen some new faces coming and entering and doing pretty well! The ideas are needed though, I definitely agree with that and I think everyone who is promoted to say management/general management should and usually do have some ideas of what they want to see come from their experience in the role and I think Inseriousity.; is one of the main examples here - Habbox wouldn't have had some of the great ideas when he was Competitions Manager/AGM without him, but I think we do have a good enough team to come up with more creative and unique ones. Additionally, some of the ideas do crop up again and again, but this comes down to various factors, perhaps they worked well last time (not to say they'd work well again of course), got a good turn out/entries or it might just be to help advertise the department more in which senior members will look at what that said department has done before if that makes sense. I also think the radio is a great contributor to gaining more members, especially as it's usually up over 160 hours a week and it was no where near that before! Understandably, Habbo isn't what it used to be, but fansite members are what keeps Habbo popular too usually, especially since a lot of people would have stopped playing ages ago if not. I look at it this way too, if HabboxLive is up for instance, they have listeners and even if only one of those join the forum then that's a bonus - an idea could be offering tokens for on air competitions as an alternative (for whatever reason a DJ can't provide a Habbo prize, or perhaps they didn't meet the listener requirement they wanted). Despect; Phil;.

cameron; I agree with that, you can almost guarantee usually that another fansite or another Habbo member (or even Habbox) have already done X event or Y competition, but even if it's not unique/we don't know if it's unique we can always take a risk (like a lot of things that will help in the long run) and see what happens.

sex; I'd love for you to submit that as an official room, especially with how popular I see rooms like that even when owners aren't present. I'm sure it would be a great addition alongside the other 2 rooms recently added (more on that soon).

Skandair; big events are on the horizon and it might be quiet until Easter (why does it have to be so late this year?) However, it's not just the big events that bring people to Habbox, it's the members and the departments too. I don't really think we need an app as such, as there are alternatives such as TapaTalk and TunedIn already out there that allow members to browse and listen to Habbox all they want. Working with Habbo communities could be interesting, as long as that community doesn't break the Habbo Way - I'm currently thinking rooms such as Casinos that could potentially be banned in the future and such, but I wouldn't be set against involving Habbox with them - after all it does get the word out. It's a little like official rooms, but it would be more we go to them instead of the other way round. Not sure if you're being serious about AdBlock anyway.

Also, your point about AGMs coming up with stuff - I said a bit further up in my post that people who get promoted should have views on how they'd like to run things, the department they're running or in some cases departments. The ideas they have or come up with could be done in a variety of ways on or off Habbo (or it might be internally, thus you might not see it), but they're usually there. I don't think it's solely up to AGMs though, as when we plan bigger events the departments usually come up with their own ideas, also if they want more advertising for just their department then they will plan something themselves too.

Inseriousity.; I definitely agree with this, Habbo advertisement is key and I've been speaking to Mk,; about this tonight as we've noticed a decrease in events being hosted for whatever reason. We have also gone on with your point Skandair; about gaining more staff too and we came up with a few ideas that could potentially improve the staffing levels we have at the moment (which may get them applying for other roles and not just Events Organiser) and the word on Habbo about Habbox.

One of the main ideas we thought of was an auto game, not a run exactly, but somewhere to play if there's no event on - such as Rock, Paper, Scissors, Connect 4 etc. as this could/would be an official Habbox room too, we can get messages in there asking people to apply for staff and join the forum and the DJ on air could possibly go in there if they wish, so if they didn't hold a competition the listeners wouldn't be bored either.
Reviving the recommendation thread they have - this involves going into the rooms of those hosting normal Habbo games, but not generally working for a fansite, it's worked before plus, if they're friends they may be more inclined to see what happens when volunteering at one and help each other out. Also with this, we get new ideas and fresh faces which is also always needed instead of recycling older members who may not be interested anymore.
When I was in the Competitions Department we advertised the competitions on the welcome threads, and this could easily be done for events (and all the departments at Habbox) as the new members will usually look at the thread they made, see who's welcomed them and then see the link for the Habbox jobs, which ultimately may interest them.
Also, I know Lewis is currently planning something for Easter and also was planning another project for Christmas, but hopefully when/if these go live at some point it would be great to see them continue on in the future.
Finally, weekly events, I believe there's currently one which is a Carnival in one room - a nice idea and a bit different to some we've seen before, the incentive of VIP too if you win is interesting as to gain it you need to sign up to the forum. I know this really does help though as it's what got me to sign up too.

FlyingJesus; I'm not sure what V7 is meant to achieve, but it would be great to see a new look to Habbox and it's much needed. I also agree about the app. Also, Rare Values is used even if many think it's not, I'm not just saying it either - if you're into trading like I am, sometimes you get people coming into your shop saying they go by Habbox or ask if you do, I've had it too many times to count and although I haven't seen it too recently (I haven't been trading as much), I still think there's a need for it. However, the values that can't/aren't reported by the MarketPlace do need to be pushed more, which I believe they're doing sort of - especially with members reporting various LTD/super rare values.

Kardan; Rare Values had coding requests in 2010?/2011 which were never done, apparently it also went live without being completely finished which has just made it utterly rubbish to work with on the admin side. Ideally, I think Mr-Trainor; and all ex management who used it would like it to have a normal week (not Sunday - Saturday), actually give accurate update values and not count them on to the next week depending when they were gone through (this is what I wanted changing, but I got told that GM would have to be contacted to make 'such a change'). Also, for years we were told that X or Y wasn't possible which hindered the development a lot in terms of updating, accuracy and moving on to ensure players used us still. It wasn't until Chippiewill; came along that we got told, hold on you can actually do that (and it was ******* easy to do) - now we can accurately report items less than 1c, those sold mainly at say 2 for 3c/3 for 5c etc. and also LTD values, although this is an average currently! However, no I don't think it gets developed anymore, but it has had jobs needing to be done that probably still aren't.

FlyingJesus; I never said I couldn't be bothered with the awards, I was awaiting replies to PMs and I wanted to send them all on the same date as really that's fair on all winners then the others aren't waiting. The excuses I've made in the past have been true though, especially the most recent as I have had to take some time off due to unforseen circumstances which have been occurring about a month and now I am back and willing more than ever to work in making sure Habbox can be the best again. The last big event we did was Christmas, but I was given that duty a week before as Jade had just resigned from the role. As I remember, the Christmas activities included Santa's List from the Competitions Department, which was done as a run up to the bonanza, the Help Desk did a mini quest that ran everyday for a period of time - this was where something was changed in the HxHD each day and you had to PM what it was, we had Christmas Karaoke and the Christmas Ball held by the HxL department. Also, the events department did an advent sort of game whereby if you won you won a prize, which could be forum awards, rep, vip, rares, tokens, credits etc. finaly, the Content Department did Santa's Grotto. Admittedly, it wasn't the best mainly due to not having much time between being promoted and Christmas, but I think we pulled through it pretty well.

[FlyingJesus]

What's the current situation with events funding? I saw 3 people earlier today mention in passing that they were going to resign soon because they can't afford to carry on giving prizes. As far as I'm aware there's been 0% done about increasing the inflow of credits to Habbox (and then to the departments that need them) despite it being a perennial problem. I know there's a worry at the moment that casino type rooms could go under at any time but if so that's even more reason to set up odds-beating gambling rooms for official Habbox purposes before the opportunity is lost to us; grabbers, more lotteries (potentially short-term ones of let's say 2c to enter, and then at 6 people you roll a die to see who wins a 10c jackpot to draw in funds from those who aren't going to bother signing up and waiting), dice blackjack etc

[Lewis]

What's the current situation with events funding? I saw 3 people earlier today mention in passing that they were going to resign soon because they can't afford to carry on giving prizes. As far as I'm aware there's been 0% done about increasing the inflow of credits to Habbox (and then to the departments that need them) despite it being a perennial problem. I know there's a worry at the moment that casino type rooms could go under at any time but if so that's even more reason to set up odds-beating gambling rooms for official Habbox purposes before the opportunity is lost to us; grabbers, more lotteries (potentially short-term ones of let's say 2c to enter, and then at 6 people you roll a die to see who wins a 10c jackpot to draw in funds from those who aren't going to bother signing up and waiting), dice blackjack etc

Not sure what you're saying, do you mean events staff can't afford prizes? If that's the case, they know I can always help them out with prizes and I've told that to them numerous times. Alongside that, we do have a funding system. So I'm not sure why that's the case. :P

[Kyle]

okay is it just me that found that post extremely difficult to read and don't feel it shed any light on anything at all. am probs just tired.

@Samanfa (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=68263); what are the top 6 things you are focusing on to improve habbox within the next month?

[Kardan]

Can anyone explain simply why Sam gets more flack than Laura and Chris? Is it simply because she's been around for longer?

[Kyle]

Can anyone explain simply why Sam gets more flack than Laura and Chris? Is it simply because she's been around for longer?
COMMUNITY agm >CONTENT/STAFF

[Samantha]

okay is it just me that found that post extremely difficult to read and don't feel it shed any light on anything at all. am probs just tired.

@Samanfa (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=68263); what are the top 6 things you are focusing on to improve habbox within the next month?

Do you mean generally or like things within departments?

I mean do you mean, getting Habbox's name out there more, or ensuring that HxHD Layouts don't take months to change and find the furni for?

[FlyingJesus]

Can anyone explain simply why Sam gets more flack than Laura and Chris? Is it simply because she's been around for longer?

I was of the opinion that it's because we mainly talk about community issues (since literally no-one in the universe knows what content are actually meant to do other than tell us that the wiki is fun)

[Kardan]

COMMUNITY agm >CONTENT/STAFF

So do we suddenly not care that staff numbers are generally low (and people seem to rejoin and resign very quickly, or maybe that's just me), and that content can't do anything because of V7 excuses and all they seem to do is make wiki pages about each other :P

Not trying to defend Sam here, but I do feel she gets more flack than the others :P And what about Matt? :P

[Samantha]

So do we suddenly not care that staff numbers are generally low (and people seem to rejoin and resign very quickly, or maybe that's just me), and that content can't do anything because of V7 excuses and all they seem to do is make wiki pages about each other :P

Not trying to defend Sam here, but I do feel she gets more flack than the others :P And what about Matt? :P

The staff issue, especially those resigning and coming back is being sorted and has been - we all notice it if someone is coming and going a little too often and I've noticed it in the community departments therefore we'd comment in the perms request (if it has been requested) and Chris would give a date on when they can return. The current time is 2 weeks from the day your perms are taken as far as I know, although if you have been seen to resign and come back too quickly often then you'll be made to wait longer.

[Kyle]

Do you mean generally or like things within departments?

I mean do you mean, getting Habbox's name out there more, or ensuring that HxHD Layouts don't take months to change and find the furni for?
you decide :) can go beyond 6 if it's difficult

[xxMATTGxx]

So do we suddenly not care that staff numbers are generally low (and people seem to rejoin and resign very quickly, or maybe that's just me), and that content can't do anything because of V7 excuses and all they seem to do is make wiki pages about each other :P

Not trying to defend Sam here, but I do feel she gets more flack than the others :P And what about Matt? :P

Content shouldn't be using V7 as an excuse for anything and I don't believe they are doing. Unless it's like some sort of specific feature but content updates can carry on as normal and have been doing.
rnix;

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[Inseriousity.]

So do we suddenly not care that staff numbers are generally low (and people seem to rejoin and resign very quickly, or maybe that's just me), and that content can't do anything because of V7 excuses and all they seem to do is make wiki pages about each other :P

Not trying to defend Sam here, but I do feel she gets more flack than the others :P And what about Matt? :P

She does, it can be pretty brutal at times especially when Matt tends to read these threads then never respond to any of the points leaving it to the AGMs to deal with (if he does respond it's usually to comment on a rather arbitary post, his replies in this one for instance). Mainly it's because the feedback forum's main posts tend to be based around things that fall under the community AGM's remit so that's why it'll look slightly off-balance. Doesn't mean being content/staff AGM is without its challenges, more that they just aren't talked about as often!

[Kardan]

Content shouldn't be using V7 as an excuse for anything and I don't believe they are doing. Unless it's like some sort of specific feature but content updates can carry on as normal and have been doing.
rnix;

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All I ever got from Laura when she was head of content was that they couldn't add new content features to Habbox.com because of V6 being so crap so they were waiting for V7 :P

[lawrawrrr]

Sam gets it worse because her role is very public, whereas mine and Chris' is more behind the scenes, although I have a few things coming out soon, and I've noted your comments from this thread to make Content more prolific.

Remember content is more than just the Wiki and v7 excuses, like I said I'm focusing on improving the current website in the mean time, which I thiiiiiink I've already done the bulk of! New features and things, I'm sooo happy too ad those as long as they're not too code-heavy I should be able to manage ;D

We all realise we have to work together to have any chance of improving out current situation.

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All I ever got from Laura when she was head of content was that they couldn't add new content features to Habbox.com because of V6 being so crap so they were waiting for V7 :P
Because that's what I was told at the time!

Also what I meant by that is like big things, alt generators etc, that involve heavy coding, the coder...[s?] would only work on V7 stuff. But some features, yeah I'm happy to push that now I actually know the status of V7.

[xxMATTGxx]

All I ever got from Laura when she was head of content was that they couldn't add new content features to Habbox.com because of V6 being so crap so they were waiting for V7 :P

Right okay, features and content updates are two different things. If it's features that requires coding then you are correct it won't be done under the present situation with coding in general. Content updates can still go on as normal though so that's probably where the V7 excuses may come into it.

[Kardan]

Sam gets it worse because her role is very public, whereas mine and Chris' is more behind the scenes, although I have a few things coming out soon, and I've noted your comments from this thread to make Content more prolific.

Remember content is more than just the Wiki and v7 excuses, like I said I'm focusing on improving the current website in the mean time, which I thiiiiiink I've already done the bulk of! New features and things, I'm sooo happy too ad those as long as they're not too code-heavy I should be able to manage ;D

We all realise we have to work together to have any chance of improving out current situation.

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Because that's what I was told at the time!

Also what I meant by that is like big things, alt generators etc, that involve heavy coding, the coder...[s?] would only work on V7 stuff. But some features, yeah I'm happy to push that now I actually know the status of V7.

It's good to see that the actual main website is now getting worked on now - just a shame it's took so long for it to get going. (Not just you, but whoever was in your role before you). Better late than never though!

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Right okay, features and content updates are two different things. If it's features that requires coding then you are correct it won't be done under the present situation with coding in general. Content updates can still go on as normal though so that's probably where the V7 excuses may come into it.

I remember mentioning just simple pages that would have just text and images and was told back then that it was too much for V6. Glad to see that's not the case anymore though.

[lawrawrrr]

It's good to see that the actual main website is now getting worked on now - just a shame it's took so long for it to get going. (Not just you, but whoever was in your role before you). Better late than never though!
Well it's always been worked on, normal updates have been continual. Sometimes a bit slow, yes, but that's due to a lack of staff.

Won't be adding too much extra stuff, at least not things that are difficult to transfer!

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I remember mentioning just simple pages that would have just text and images and was told back then that it was too much for V6. Glad to see that's not the case anymore though.
When was this? The only way I would turn down ideas like this is maybe due to staff levels / if I had any other things they were prioritised to work on!

[FlyingJesus]

I thought updating the main site WAS v7

[rnix]

A lot of the stuff the content department are working on is currently hidden to 'normal' users as it's not complete but should be soon and we are constantly drafting up new things. The same old crap on a website gets boring.

My main concern at the moment is adding new and exciting content to the website, I've kind of left wiki at the bottom of the work load as personally that can wait!

[Samantha]

you decide :) can go beyond 6 if it's difficult

I would ideally like to get a good list of official rooms that serve different purposes and aren't just general made rooms that people can go in to chat. For example, if we get game rooms they could sort of be unofficial Habbox events (if they wanted to of course). It'd be great to have them auto, so the staff could go for something different. With this and in rooms in general I'd like to see a HabboxLive party room (which I believe has already happened, thanks Despect;), so it's not just the Help Desk and then the staff there could suggest to people where to go for a change of scene. Also, I think RP games would be good I think I wrote in my reply just how popular some of them are!

Although, I won't be making it live or anything (I probably will submit achievements for members), so the achievement system is now a must and work is being done on it so much and I think it'll be something big. Definitely a way to get Habbox's name out there more, and yet another reason to advertise for something that I believe is a bit more unique than what other fansites currently offer.

Within the next month I'll be doing HxEE, and most departments will be doing something for the occasion. We're not having teams this year, but good old fashioned every man/woman for themselves. We have various awards (I do hope they will come in use though regardless of the achievement system) and some of the ideas the managers have had are great. I'd love to make a game room for this, or various ones whereby players could earn points for the games they play - I was thinking a head to head obstacle course sort of thing; however, I'm not just limiting at that. Also, the lottery will be within the HxEE period and I'd like to make that a bit more special and better than usual. Not too sure how yet, without just changing the jackpot, but we'll see.

I believe Habbo will want a Easter event, perhaps joined and this could probably tie in with HxEE, but if we do get the chance of doing an actual Habbo event for the Easter period it'll be the icing on the cake, especially with such a big event going on alongside it. As there isn't any information about this yet (I don't think), I can't really go on about it.

What I'd also like, as we have a weekly event and weekly HabboxLive shows currently (and monthly competitions), it'd be great to get new people coming/listening/entering those consistently each week or month - if we get that, even just one person for each doing that I don't think it'd take too long for their friends to get involved and sign up to the forum and such. This is currently happening in 2 of the departments I mentioned though and the 3rd is currently following (various things have prevented it before), but also with the aspect of events it's the more creative ones they usually want to see - the old school ones are fine but mix is the best. Although this isn't a monthly thing and a constant one I think it fits ok here!

That's 5 for now for you, off to bed soon so I'll continue the list later!

[xxMATTGxx]

She does, it can be pretty brutal at times especially when Matt tends to read these threads then never respond to any of the points leaving it to the AGMs to deal with (if he does respond it's usually to comment on a rather arbitary post, his replies in this one for instance). Mainly it's because the feedback forum's main posts tend to be based around things that fall under the community AGM's remit so that's why it'll look slightly off-balance. Doesn't mean being content/staff AGM is without its challenges, more that they just aren't talked about as often!

Sam gets it more as there is more feedback threads on the community issues rather than the other issues Habbox may or may not be facing. It's part of their role to deal with these threads in the best ability they can. Then they can discuss the matters further with the rest of the General Management Team in our group Skype chat which we all talk to on a daily basis.

I do not need to reply to every single post in this thread as long as I have read it I can relay that back to them in our private discussions and go from there. My role is to be there for them rather than doing their role for them if they are around and available. So normally you will see me answer posts that I can answer better than what they can (V7 questions etc) Unfortunately for the people who do not like me then I have some bad news, I will always be part of Habbox in one role or another.

[lawrawrrr]

A lot of the stuff the content department are working on is currently hidden to 'normal' users as it's not complete but should be soon and we are constantly drafting up new things. The same old crap on a website gets boring.

My main concern at the moment is adding new and exciting content to the website, I've kind of left wiki at the bottom of the work load as personally that can wait!

I do just want to publicly say that I'm really excited to seeing your ideas come live as I know they'll go down pretty well and I'm proooouuuddd of you! It's exactly the sort of direction I'm looking to move Content in! ;D


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[Blinger]

Curious to know, why is it hard to transfer a page from v6 to v7? Wouldn't it just be loading the page as normal?

[lawrawrrr]

Unfortunately for the people who do not like me then I have some bad news, I will always be part of Habbox in one role or another.
Dddaaaaammmmmnnnnn.



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[lawrawrrr]

Curious to know, why is it hard to transfer a page from v6 to v7? Wouldn't it just be loading the page as normal?

Copying text and images is easy but as far as I got from the limited explanation anyone bothered to offer me is that the code that would be needed for v6 isn't compatible for the v7 build?

I genuinely have no idea though, no one ever explains anything to me ;(


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[xxMATTGxx]

Curious to know, why is it hard to transfer a page from v6 to v7? Wouldn't it just be loading the page as normal?

The majority of the content will work on V7 - It's the other parts that we have to re-build for it.

[Inseriousity.]

Well as the general manager, you could easily respond to the community, content and technical issues. I don't mean every post, that'd be stupid but a general response to things and being there for your team in public rather than hiding behind the scenes where it's comfortable and your opinions aren't faced with public scrutiny.

[Blinger]

Copying text and images is easy but as far as I got from the limited explanation anyone bothered to offer me is that the code that would be needed for v6 isn't compatible for the v7 build?

I genuinely have no idea though, no one ever explains anything to me ;(


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Can you not just copy the functions over? Unless it's gone from non-OOP to OOP ... or you're using a framework now or something.

[xxMATTGxx]

Well as the general manager, you could easily respond to the community, content and technical issues. I don't mean every post, that'd be stupid but a general response to things and being there for your team in public rather than hiding behind the scenes where it's comfortable and your opinions aren't faced with public scrutiny.

I post my opinions when I want to post my opinions - Otherwise it is their role to deal with the issues which they can relay back to the chat and speak to all members of the GM and we will then decided as a team, together on how we should tackle A,B,C. Think of me as another Jin in a way.

[lawrawrrr]

I'm happy for Matt to take a general overseeing role, he shouldn't have to bother replying to every petty insignificant comment because the managers should be able to defend themselves most of the time, or AGMs.

It's ironic because if he did reply all the time you'd accuse him of just blindly sticking up for Habbox but not being involved enough of something idefk


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[Inseriousity.]

But Habbox doesn't need another Jin, it needs a leader, someone on the frontline! That's exactly my point.

[lawrawrrr]

Can you not just copy the functions over? Unless it's gone from non-OOP to OOP ... or you're using a framework now or something.

Don't speak coding to me, I'll start crying! This is just what I've been told since I first started nagging asking about V7


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[rnix]

But Habbox doesn't need another Jin, it needs a leader, someone on the frontline! That's exactly my point.

Let's face it. Leadership opinions coming from you is very ironic.

[xxMATTGxx]

But Habbox doesn't need another Jin, it needs a leader, someone on the frontline! That's exactly my point.

The General Management Team is the leadership of Habbox - Not one specific person.

[Inseriousity.]

Let's face it. Leadership opinions coming from you is very ironic.

You've never been in the general management team so you won't know how it really works behind the scenes where....


The General Management Team is he leadership of Habbox - Not one specific person.

...it's usually one specific person who has to make that final decision because Matt is incapable of making tough decisions. Someone else has to push the button so to speak.

[rnix]

You've never been in the general management team so you won't know how it really works behind the scenes where....



...it's usually one specific person who has to make that final decision because Matt is incapable of making tough decisions. Someone else has to push the button so to speak.

I know for a fact you're very incapable of running a department. So stop passing judgements around.

[lawrawrrr]

Incapable.... no. Not at all. You just have to put forward a strong case and show you've actually done the work and have the dedication/experience to be confident it'll work, discuss both sides.

He only wants the best for Habbox, and if you show that he's more than happy to discuss, and make decisions.


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[Inseriousity.]

That's not true, I ran the competitions department for over 2 years. So no.

[xxMATTGxx]

You've never been in the general management team so you won't know how it really works behind the scenes where....



...it's usually one specific person who has to make that final decision because Matt is incapable of making tough decisions. Someone else has to push the button so to speak.

They can easily make decisions themselves - If they want to confirm it with someone then they speak to everyone as a team and then a joint decision is made. We have gone from the days when General Management don't speak to each other or hated each other but you wouldn't know that as you are no longer part of it.

[Kardan]

Well it's always been worked on, normal updates have been continual. Sometimes a bit slow, yes, but that's due to a lack of staff.

Won't be adding too much extra stuff, at least not things that are difficult to transfer!

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When was this? The only way I would turn down ideas like this is maybe due to staff levels / if I had any other things they were prioritised to work on!


I've updated the Wiki to have all the information and it's all waiting to be put on V7, but the way the V6 Public Room page is designed it's a waste of time and effort to go around updating it.

Surely a page on public rooms would just be some text and images, which is what the Habbox Wiki page on public rooms looks like.


it's no pressing isue to update the pages on Habbox when most of the spelling/rewriting issues have been fixed and added to V7 already.

Like I've said, it's good that V6 content is getting worked on - but you and the others in the content team definitely used V7 as an excuse.

[FlyingJesus]

So normally you will see me answer posts that I can answer better than what they can (V7 questions etc)

Since when did you actually ever give a real answer about anything to do with v7?


Think of me as another Jin in a way.

Absent, aggressive, and with a holier-than-thou attitude preferring to let things stagnate rather than assume some modicum of effort?


The General Management Team is the leadership of Habbox - Not one specific person.

And it's doing so so well

[lawrawrrr]

Surely a page on public rooms would just be some text and images, which is what the Habbox Wiki page on public rooms looks like.


But the public rooms page on v6 is up to date? It's just reformatting which would be a waste of time because column/image sizes would be changed aagaaaiiinnn in a few months for v7



Like I've said, it's good that V6 content is getting worked on - but you and the others in the content team definitely used V7 as an excuse.
I think it's a big thing that it was PASSED DOWN to me as an excuse, and then I was kept completely in the dark, quite frankly lied to, about the state and date of release; it was something to work towards as that's what I was told was going to happen.

No more, Matt and Jacob both know where I stand on it! It's still something to aim for, but it's not going to stop any of my managers' or my own ideas from going ahead, at least showing some form of progression, because I now know exactly where it stands (really helps not being too involved with development too)



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[xxMATTGxx]

Since when did you actually ever give a real answer about anything to do with v7?



Absent, aggressive, and with a holier-than-thou attitude preferring to let things stagnate rather than assume some modicum of effort?



And it's doing so so well

Let's face it Tom you haven't liked anyone in General Management for a while or anyone in any sort of management role as you normally question "Who's this?" - At the end of the day nothing is perfect. If you really think everything can go to 100% perfect in a short period of the time then you are crazy. We are doing our best but some plans take longer than others. Some areas have to be put on pause while a more important matter rises - It can change daily.

I'm also not absent and I'm on Habbox every single day, I am on Skype near enough every hour of the day apart from when I am sleeping so anyone in Management is able to contact me if needed.

[Kardan]

But the public rooms page on v6 is up to date? It's just reformatting which would be a waste of time because column/image sizes would be changed aagaaaiiinnn in a few months for v7



I think it's a big thing that it was PASSED DOWN to me as an excuse, and then I was kept completely in the dark, quite frankly lied to, about the state and date of release; it was something to work towards as that's what I was told was going to happen.

No more, Matt and Jacob both know where I stand on it! It's still something to aim for, but it's not going to stop any of my managers' or my own ideas from going ahead, at least showing some form of progression, because I now know exactly where it stands (really helps not being too involved with development too)



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I'm not saying the page is out of date now, but back in Jan 2013 when that quote was taken from, V7 was used as an excuse for pretty much everything content related back then - and that was an example of it. The page had errors, so you corrected the errors on the V7 edition, but not the V6 edition (and look, 14 months later, we still don't have that V7 edition :P) - so it's good that someone got round to finally updating the V6 edition :P

[FlyingJesus]

Let's face it Tom you haven't liked anyone in General Management for a while or anyone in any sort of management role as you normally question "Who's this?" - At the end of the day nothing is perfect. If you really think everything can go to 100% perfect in a short period of the time then you are crazy. We are doing our best but some plans take longer than others. Some areas have to be put on pause while a more important matter rises - It can change daily.

Yeah or maybe you could answer the questions and not deflect them on me not being bestest chums with you

[rnix]

(Idk how tagging works on tapatalk) @Kardan if there are any pages that are not kept up to date and that my dept has missed please feel free to PM me anything you come across and that goes for everyone. Sometimes we overlook stuff by accident!

[lawrawrrr]

I'm not saying the page is out of date now, but back in Jan 2013 when that quote was taken from, V7 was used as an excuse for pretty much everything content related back then - and that was an example of it. The page had errors, so you corrected the errors on the V7 edition, but not the V6 edition (and look, 14 months later, we still don't have that V7 edition :P) - so it's good that someone got round to finally updating the V6 edition :P

Noone's updated the v6 version, as far as I'm aware, apart from a few broken images maybe?

But yeah, you're using quotes from Jan in a feedback thread where management has almost completely changed since then, as well as attitudes and general environment here. We've moved on!


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[xxMATTGxx]

Yeah or maybe you could answer the questions and not deflect them on me not being bestest chums with you

I don't need you to be best chums with me nor does it matter if you are or aren't.

[Kyle]

is content manager responsible only for wiki

[lawrawrrr]

is content manager responsible only for wiki

At the moment, written content on both the main site & wiki. Interactive content is sort of content manager plus AGM, bit of a blurred line


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[xxMATTGxx]

(Idk how tagging works on tapatalk) @Kardan if there are any pages that are not kept up to date and that my dept has missed please feel free to PM me anything you come across and that goes for everyone. Sometimes we overlook stuff by accident!

Just put a semi-colon after their username so username; for example.


is content manager responsible only for wiki


Any content that is on Habbox.com and HabboxWiki.com

[Kyle]

worrying that a content manager doesnt know how to properly user forum content :/ jks

okay so what's the defining difference between agm/manager of content, cos atm I really do not see the need? maybe I'm not seeing the big picture here

[Kardan]

Oh, Laura, how many job roles do you have at the moment?

[Mr-Trainor]

Let's see, I probably won't have commented on everything (might have missed them), however, I'll try my best :P.

@Kardan (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=3428); Rare Values had coding requests in 2010?/2011 which were never done, apparently it also went live without being completely finished which has just made it utterly rubbish to work with on the admin side. Ideally, I think @Mr-Trainor (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=47332); and all ex management who used it would like it to have a normal week (not Sunday - Saturday), actually give accurate update values and not count them on to the next week depending when they were gone through (this is what I wanted changing, but I got told that GM would have to be contacted to make 'such a change'). Also, for years we were told that X or Y wasn't possible which hindered the development a lot in terms of updating, accuracy and moving on to ensure players used us still. It wasn't until @Chippiewill (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=40007); came along that we got told, hold on you can actually do that (and it was ******* easy to do) - now we can accurately report items less than 1c, those sold mainly at say 2 for 3c/3 for 5c etc. and also LTD values, although this is an average currently! However, no I don't think it gets developed anymore, but it has had jobs needing to be done that probably still aren't.
Basically every coding request since the initial version of v6 was released, was never done. The only exceptions being the categories box being widened. But as you said, when Chippiewill; came it was great and it's a shame he's gone now because he managed to get a few things working; decimal values, apostrophes in names, and I'm sure he did/would have done great with v7 too. I still have the list of all those coding requests, it's a shame Rare Values was neglected for so long, even when me and Dan were promised a weekend would be spent getting through them all, they still never happened and eventually we got to where we are now, which is waiting for v7.

The reporting week is irrelevant to anyone not in the department tbh, but I actually now think the Sunday-Saturday week is more easily manageable. And I'd personally keep LTDs as just an average.

[Blinger]

Does this (suggestion) belong here? The "Forum Posts" section shows spam/feedback threads. I don't know about feedback but maybe they shouldn't be shown in case they aren't so "welcoming" or "warming" or whatever. Just a thought.

[lawrawrrr]

worrying that a content manager doesnt know how to properly user forum content :/ jks

okay so what's the defining difference between agm/manager of content, cos atm I really do not see the need? maybe I'm not seeing the big picture here

I oversee RV, Graphics, News and Content, I don't manage day to day updates. It's unfortunately named but this is definitely the best way to work it. I'll be working to integrate and push content more publicly, provide some things that departments on their own couldn't be expected to.
Kardan; just the one (here anyway...) Fully given up helping at comps and HxL now so unless someone asks me to step in... SO WEIRD.


on phone xx

[xxMATTGxx]

Does this (suggestion) belong here? The "Forum Posts" section shows spam/feedback threads. I don't know about feedback but maybe they shouldn't be shown in case they aren't so "welcoming" or "warming" or whatever. Just a thought.

Do you mean New Posts/Activity stream on the forum or something else on the site?

[FlyingJesus]

I don't need you to be best chums with me nor does it matter if you are or aren't.

Then why is that the only thing you've responded to as opposed to the several comments and suggestions that I've put forth? Even when I asked again for a clarification on important matters rather than a personal comment you decided on the latter since it was easier for you

[lawrawrrr]

oh my god will you all stop replying I'm having issues getting to sleep

O/T; erm yes I agree the widget on the main site could do with being filtered


on phone xx

[Blinger]

Do you mean New Posts/Activity stream on the forum or something else on the site?
ah on the main site when you first go on. This part. I don't know if the spam is meant to be shown or if it's because I'm logged into the forum, but it isn't to non-logged in users.

http://www.zimagez.com/miniature/screenshot-260314-115004.php (http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-260314-115004.php)

[Mr-Trainor]

A survey asking Habbox users if they use Habbox is not really proof of the necessity of a defunct department. It is essentially, as your post really shows, a museum; s something of a fossil myself I am well able to to recognise such a thing
But where's any proof to suggest it's a 'defunct department'? I guess you can call it a museum since the whole concept of v6 was combining Rare Values with Rare Watch, but it's uses go beyond that as I've explained in my post prior to yours :P.

I don't know the stats for each department but rares seem to be the least used department. I'm not sure but it's down near the bottom.

Forum
Radio
Events
HxHD
Comps
Rares
Wiki


idek
For all of those except the bottom two, it's a lot easier to notice people using them :P.

literally nobody uses rare values and no one will use it ever plzzz its a waste of time
How did you come to that rather bold conclusion :P?

[xxMATTGxx]

Then why is that the only thing you've responded to as opposed to the several comments and suggestions that I've put forth? Even when I asked again for a clarification on important matters rather than a personal comment you decided on the latter since it was easier for you

Are you talking about your other posts in this thread? If so then I have explained I don't need to reply to each one as long as I have read them. If you are on about your most recent post then I have replied to it. If you really want a reply to your other posts then let me know and I'll personally go through them and reply.

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ah on the main site when you first go on. This part. I don't know if the spam is meant to be shown or if it's because I'm logged into the forum, but it isn't to non-logged in users.

http://www.zimagez.com/miniature/screenshot-260314-115004.php (http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-260314-115004.php)

Ah yes the site widget. We should be able to get that changed - I shall have a look later on today to see which forums have been allowed to show up on there.

[Kyle]

Fully given up helping at comps and HxL now so unless someone asks me to step in... SO WEIRD.
do they not want you to help?

[Blinger]

Ah yes the site widget. We should be able to get that changed - I shall have a look later on today to see which forums have been allowed to show up on there.
TBH from an outsiders perspective, ignoring spam, if I was to see everyone ***** and moan about what the site should or shouldn't do, and all sorts of stuff like that it probably isn't the most inviting thing ever, that's all :)

[xxMATTGxx]

TBH from an outsiders perspective, ignoring spam, if I was to see everyone ***** and moan about what the site should or shouldn't do, and all sorts of stuff like that it probably isn't the most inviting thing ever, that's all :)

No I understand what you are saying - I'll just double check what's been allowed/blocked and change it as necessary. Will get back to you with the results on that one.

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do they not want you to help?

I think she meant before she became AGM she was part of the Comps and HabboxLive and stayed a bit when she got the new role. I could be wrong though.

[FlyingJesus]

Are you talking about your other posts in this thread? If so then I have explained I don't need to reply to each one as long as I have read them. If you are on about your most recent post then I have replied to it. If you really want a reply to your other posts then let me know and I'll personally go through them and reply.


No you didn't you just had a go at me for not liking people then said a load of tosh about nothing being perfect and pushing things to the back, that's not an answer about what V7 is supposed to entail at all

[Kardan]

Cool, just making sure for the new Habbox Structure thing in a few days.

[xxMATTGxx]

No you didn't you just had a go at me for not liking people then said a load of tosh about nothing being perfect and pushing things to the back, that's not an answer about what V7 is supposed to entail at all

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Since when did you actually ever give a real answer about anything to do with v7?

I thought I replied to that part asking you what your question was as I remember typing it out. Apologies for missing that out: Anyway, what is your question in regards of V7? I can answer any of them apart from release dates due to the fact we don't actually have one.

[Blinger]

Oops also, the "Updated Live" is a bit misleading, to me that means it auto-refreshes, which it doesn't seem to :)

[FlyingJesus]

I thought updating the main site WAS v7


Since when did you actually ever give a real answer about anything to do with v7?

My two last posts before you berated me for something that wasn't even related. My post before those was about events funding, which you also have not responded to so I'm not sure what it is that you think you've clarified

The question is what on earth is it even supposed to be? Other than a new site skin and rearranging some links I can't see what it is we've really pinning our hopes on for the past however many years waiting for this magic fix to all our problems

[xxMATTGxx]

My two last posts before you berated me for something that wasn't even related. My post before those was about events funding, which you also have not responded to so I'm not sure what it is that you think you've clarified


I thought updating the main site WAS v7

What do you mean by that exactly? Updating can be mean different things depending on the context. Whatever the Content Department are working on at this moment isn't related to the progress of V7.

Your question about funding for Events was answered by Lewis. I've also not seen any messages about the department in general needing any funding - Unless it went to Sam directly. If Lewis needs credits then I am more than welcome to give them some from what I have. Mk,;


The question is what on earth is it even supposed to be? Other than a new site skin and rearranging some links I can't see what it is we've really pinning our hopes on for the past however many years waiting for this magic fix to all our problems

V7 is built on a completely different platform and system V6 is currently using. It will bring a new layout to Habbox you are correct but the plan for V7 is to make it easy for the staff members who use the site as well. (News, Content, HxL, RVR, HxHD) with a whole new staff panel that is no longer complicated to use. It might be bit hard to understand unless you have experienced it as a site staff user who has to use it on a daily basis. Not just the back end which is important but also front-end changes to make it easier for people who visit the site.

It will also make it easier for us to add new features and also put changes into place as at the moment V6 is confusing and complicated in the back end and coding wise. You may have also noticed that V6 can be quite slow in terms of loading at times and that was also one of the reasons why we wanted to get away from it when we can due to the amount of queries it requests when people use the site.

With the launch of V7 would also the close of HabboxLive as a separate website and would bring it all under one roof.

Short Story: It's hard to do anything on V6 and we need a new site where we are able to do it with ease and where there isn't a huge amount of bugs.

The whole magic fix to all of our problems isn't the case - It will help the departments that use it as they will be able to do more. But for the rest of Habbox that's a different situation.

[FlyingJesus]

So why was it so often (before it became a joke) spoken about by management as though it would be the answer to all our prayers and that nothing can be changed without it? Simple things like linking news and forum, badge guides, guest commenting (despite it being a crap idea), wiki updates, graphic designs, and somehow even a slew of community based ideas have all been shot down in the past because supposedly v7 was going to fix it all and often it's even been claimed by staff that they've been stopped from doing certain changes and necessary updates because they had to wait for v7.

We've pretty much lost news by now and the Hx/HxL merge which seems to be one of the biggest parts of v7 isn't even that big an issue any more because HxL has picked itself up so well since its slump when the project began; we appear to have outgrown v7 before it's even arrived

[xxMATTGxx]

So why was it so often (before it became a joke) spoken about by management as though it would be the answer to all our prayers and that nothing can be changed without it? Simple things like linking news and forum, badge guides, guest commenting (despite it being a crap idea), wiki updates, graphic designs, and somehow even a slew of community based ideas have all been shot down in the past because supposedly v7 was going to fix it all and often it's even been claimed by staff that they've been stopped from doing certain changes and necessary updates because they had to wait for v7.

We've pretty much lost news by now and the Hx/HxL merge which seems to be one of the biggest parts of v7 isn't even that big an issue any more because HxL has picked itself up so well since its slump when the project began; we appear to have outgrown v7 before it's even arrived

Any changes that requires or required coding to be done (not your simple basic HTML) then those features wasn't going to be added to V6 due to complexity of it. Anything else that didn't require coding was allowed to be done if we were able to do it. Even guest commenting wouldn't have been a simple setting change - There is a lot more to it then that.

It was also mentioned a while ago that no one should be using the "V7 excuse" and if any suggestions didn't require coding to be done then the ideas could go ahead if it was able to be done.


it's even been claimed by staff that they've been stopped from doing certain changes and necessary updates because they had to wait for v7

This was near the start of when V7 was first started and was mainly aimed at content updates. That hasn't been said or mentioned to any department for a very long time. Any department can do any changes they wish - Unless they want features that needs coding work to be done.

When I mention coding work, I don't mean a simple change of the existing work that is there in the HTML/PHP etc etc. I am on about actual creating things from scratch or changing what is there but requires a lot of work to be able to get it done.

[Sian]

I have something xxMATTGxx; and obviously I don't know how you and jin see your role as being, but this is what I've always thought it was;

If you are, as you say basically jin, then surely you have at least a basic plan of what direction you want habbox to go, a list of priorities as well that you can then delegate as you feel fit to the agms.

And by the sounds of things, most people in here would like to hear your thoughts on where habbox needs to be and what needs to be prioritised. As you said, you're on habbox all the time so will definitely have a clear view on this (not just v7).

Some members clearly seem to have a lack of confidence, so yeh, it might be a good idea, now and then to outline the odd thing because personally I see you as the figure head of habbox and therefore its leader.

A good idea might be to write a thread yourself, on things that you've discussed with the agms that you're happy to be publically recognised and post it in announcements. It could potentially calm things down.

[Empired]

I have something @xxMATTGxx (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=1020); and obviously I don't know how you and jin see your role as being, but this is what I've always thought it was;

If you are, as you say basically jin, then surely you have at least a basic plan of what direction you want habbox to go, a list of priorities as well that you can then delegate as you feel fit to the agms.

And by the sounds of things, most people in here would like to hear your thoughts on where habbox needs to be and what needs to be prioritised. As you said, you're on habbox all the time so will definitely have a clear view on this (not just v7).

Some members clearly seem to have a lack of confidence, so yeh, it might be a good idea, now and then to outline the odd thing because personally I see you as the figure head of habbox and therefore its leader.

A good idea might be to write a thread yourself, on things that you've discussed with the agms that you're happy to be publically recognised and post it in announcements. It could potentially calm things down.
This is a very sensible suggestion. I think it's fairly obvious to everyone how hard Mike has been pushing for an action plan to be published, and this would definitely be one.

I think one of the reasons so many people have a go at Samanfa; is because, from a non-staff member's point of view, nothing is being worked towards or done. Yes, Sam posts in feedback threads when people ask her directly what she is currently working towards but these feedback threads are quickly lost and not everyone looks at them anyway.

Wouldn't it just be easier for everyone if the (Assistant)GM team could come up with an action plan for the whole of Habbox? Because not only would people see that plans were being worked towards, but some good ideas from feedback threads made could be put in there as well.

Eugh I'm still feeling really under the weather so I have absolutely no idea if that made sense or not but I can re explain if it doesn't.

[Lewis]

What do you mean by that exactly? Updating can be mean different things depending on the context. Whatever the Content Department are working on at this moment isn't related to the progress of V7.

Your question about funding for Events was answered by Lewis. I've also not seen any messages about the department in general needing any funding - Unless it went to Sam directly. If Lewis needs credits then I am more than welcome to give them some from what I have. @Mk, (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=70869);



V7 is built on a completely different platform and system V6 is currently using. It will bring a new layout to Habbox you are correct but the plan for V7 is to make it easy for the staff members who use the site as well. (News, Content, HxL, RVR, HxHD) with a whole new staff panel that is no longer complicated to use. It might be bit hard to understand unless you have experienced it as a site staff user who has to use it on a daily basis. Not just the back end which is important but also front-end changes to make it easier for people who visit the site.

It will also make it easier for us to add new features and also put changes into place as at the moment V6 is confusing and complicated in the back end and coding wise. You may have also noticed that V6 can be quite slow in terms of loading at times and that was also one of the reasons why we wanted to get away from it when we can due to the amount of queries it requests when people use the site.

With the launch of V7 would also the close of HabboxLive as a separate website and would bring it all under one roof.

Short Story: It's hard to do anything on V6 and we need a new site where we are able to do it with ease and where there isn't a huge amount of bugs.

The whole magic fix to all of our problems isn't the case - It will help the departments that use it as they will be able to do more. But for the rest of Habbox that's a different situation.

I don't need any credits for the time being, and neither should any events staff if they just ask me. So I'm still not sure what the post was about :P

[FlyingJesus]

I don't need any credits for the time being, and neither should any events staff if they just ask me. So I'm still not sure what the post was about :P

Just reporting what I saw, possibly the people I saw talking didn't realise there was a pot for it but 2 of them have been around for ages so seemed odd :P to be fair one of them is quite disabled though

[Recursion]

So the only reason was to speed up v7? @Recursion (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=13064); said a few pages back that scrapping Rare Values right now would have no benefit :P. But anyway, what makes it 'the worst department'?

I redact that statement. It would make it far easier to release, lol.

[Kardan]

Is V7 even at the development stage where Rare Values is stopping the release?

[FlyingJesus]

If so (as we heard months and months ago) why not (as was suggested months and months ago) release the stuff you do have and work on RV as a future project rather than holding everything up

[Aiden]

I read something about the forum widget here. Also when v7 comes can you add to the list to make it only feature the same thread once? Like if a popular thread appear it just shows that 5 times. Surely it should show the latest poster to make it look more interesting and varied.

[Mr-Trainor]

If HxL (just as an example) was left until last to be coded for v7, would you all be suggested HxL closes?


If so (as we heard months and months ago) why not (as was suggested months and months ago) release the stuff you do have and work on RV as a future project rather than holding everything up
Hmm, would it not be complicated enough trying to integrate Rare Values v6 in to the v7 site, that they'd be better off spending that time working on Rare Values for v7? I guess Recursion; would be the best person to answer that :P.

[Aiden]

No because HxL is important in the life of Habbox.

[Chippiewill]

I redact that statement. It would make it far easier to release, lol.
I think even that would be an understatement.

[Kardan]

So basically, we can all blame rare values for every problem Habbox has ever had.

[FlyingJesus]

Yeah what Skandair said and also it's already on a different page so it would just mean keeping the exact same links and coding stuff so no change for RV until the new system is ready but without holding everyone else back

[Recursion]

Is V7 even at the development stage where Rare Values is stopping the release?

Discount RV and it's 98% done.

[Kardan]

Discount RV and it's 98% done.

Well, that makes the decision a lot easier imo.

[xxMATTGxx]

Discount RV and it's 98% done.

As I said last night you would have to agree to fix and finish the rest of it off ;)

[Aiden]

I think just forget about developing RV or whatever atm. Can't that part of teh site just stay on V6 lol?

[GoldenMerc]

Cant Recursion finish the rest off? After spending time with gf, full time job etc ?

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[Chippiewill]

Cant Recursion finish the rest off? After spending time with gf, full time job etc ?
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I asked him if he'd do the Imager a year ago, not sure if he ever contemplated doing it.