Habbo Dice Limit

[Ericyum]

After months of speculation, Habbo.com is following in the footsteps of other hotels and implementing the dice/furni randomizor limit.

Full article here,

http://www.habbo.com/articles/3170-sharing-habbo-values-games-update

IMHO: I know many people will hate this, but I think it is long over due.

Thoughts?

[eLv]

http://www.habbo.com/articles/3170-sharing-habbo-values-games-update


Starting today, we’re adding a limit to the number of chance elements that can function in a room (e.g. Dicemasters, Wheel of Fortune, Fortune Tellers). Placing more than 3 chance elements will disable all randomizer functions in the room. You can continue using them as decorative elements as usual. For those who feel you now have more of these items than required, please check out our recycler, which will be running a custom refund program for these items during the next four weeks.

The reason for doing this is the feedback we have received from our users. Rooms with a great number of chance elements in them are often linked to hacking, fraud and/or cheating, and are therefore harmful to the Habbo experience. We do not assume that Habbos making and playing in these rooms have intentionally caused harm to the community, but these negative effects simply come with the territory.

Luck games are also against the habbo way.

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Thread Merged by Despect (Forum Moderator) as there's already a thread on this topic

[Puuma]

people in casinos are going hamburger right now, saying everyone will quit, habbo is ruined... you name it, they're saying it. so ridiculous, habbo is not ruined because a group of about 100 people aren't able to gamble anymore lmao... get real.

[Kardan]

I was just about to say - I just loaded up the Habbo Way page, and they've finally put gambling on there.

RIP Habbox Lottery, Samanfa;

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And RIP Habbox Events :odey:;

[Matt]

oh my god. What has happened to Habbo. 3 dice. I can't even ...

[James]

why is habbox events gambling?

[Matt]

:@ 3 is such a stupid number

[Kyle]

this rule is to prevent gambling, not to eradicate game of chance entirely?

[Reality]

I'm cryin' at this so much mdport.;'s rage is unbelievably funny.
O/T: Seriously guys gambling is bad don't do it ;o
Nah it's really stupid they're doing this, people should be allowed to do what they like within the Hotel in regards to the gambling aspect, some users are over the required age to gamble and it's just going to push people away and make people leave.

[Gina]

rip all the event organisers who only ever host dice games like bingo and dice races
but o how stupid

[Puuma]

This was a long time in the running, I'm glad they finally did it. Good riddance to people who think Habbo revolves around casinos and the trades they make. HELLO bringing actual games to light and other areas of Habbo.

[Kardan]

this rule is to prevent gambling, not to eradicate game of chance entirely?

Habbo Way:

Using furni that randomizes games with the possibility to place bets can get you into trouble. Show off your skills, don't leave it up to chance.

[Kyle]

Habbo Way:

Using furni that randomizes games with the possibility to place bets can get you into trouble. Show off your skills, don't leave it up to chance.
???

Edited by Despect (Forum Moderator) - Please do not pointless post, thanks.

[Kardan]

What games of chance are there that don't involve betting?

I suppose it depends on how they interpret the rule, plus how far can you get with only 3 randomising items?

[:odey:]

So as long as betting isn't involved?

Oh god what am I gonna do.
Don't care that bingo can't be hosted though. I hate that game.

[Gina]

https://www.habbo.com/room/66348722 everyones just like debating here

[:odey:]

And what are randomising elements? Banzai teles count?

[Kyle]

What games of chance are there that don't involve betting?

I suppose it depends on how they interpret the rule, plus how far can you get with only 3 randomising items?
higher or lower
podrace/dont touch the wall
dont touch the floor/melting carpets

pretty much every event that isn't bingo that is facilitated by rolling of the dice is, by the looks of things, still allowed.

[Bankai90]

That's good news, this will minimize the probability of being scam. Yet, they take this the hard way.

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[Kardan]

higher or lower
podrace/dont touch the wall
dont touch the floor/melting carpets

pretty much every event that isn't bingo that is facilitated by rolling of the dice is, by the looks of things, still allowed.

Higher or lower with 3 dice?

Others are fine though :P

I'm assuming stuff like fridges are also included in the ban? So there goes Don't get a carrot.

[Hidden]

This is fun, great update Habbo.

[Matt]

If fridges are banned too I'll shoot JamesSparky;

[Kardan]

If fridges are banned too I'll shoot JamesSparky;

They must be, otherwise wouldn't casinos just replace dice with fridges?

[Reality]

@mdport. (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=67543); Fridges will become extinct in the next 20 minutes

[Daltron]

Thank you Sulake for finally following the law. It only took you 10+ years.
Now let's see if they do a backflip. I hope not.

Social platforms for teens should be social platforms for teens, not platforms to encourage and engage in gambling. End of story.

[Attached]

Wow! Interesting to see what happens with this.

As usual, similarly to the Habbo iPad event, some horrible reactions by people. These incidents sure do highlight how vile this community currently is.

[Daltron]

Wow! Interesting to see what happens with this.

As usual, similarly to the Habbo iPad event, some horrible reactions by people. These incidents sure do highlight how vile this community currently is.

People are raging saying this is the end of Habbo which is complete BS. This is a huge road block for those who engage in black market activities and nothing more.

I wonder how they will eliminate wired functions/banzai which will ultimatly be used for underground gambling?

[Michael]

Finally! Thank god, this is something they had to do. Betting is the breeding ground for blackmarkets, casinos is where they get their crop to sell. I'm very pleased about this.

[iBlueBox]

Good!

Gambling goes against my Christian values.

[Attached]

People are raging saying this is the end of Habbo which is complete BS. This is a huge road block for those who engage in black market activities and nothing more.

I wonder how they will eliminate wired functions/banzai which will ultimatly be used for underground gambling?

Just a typical reaction by the present Habbo community. You should see the Welcome Lounge, full of over reacting scum, it is horrible.

[Red]

ugh I don't like the gambling but against this for the simple fact it limits so many other games.

[Lewis]

Guess I'm quitting habbo now. It's the only way I earn coins and enjoy it. There's honestly nothing else I do on it, I'm sure that's the same for many other people.

And for those talking about the black market, I'm pretty sure the majority don't and I certainly don't. Of course all of these huge casino owners probably are, though.

[Okeanos]

if you only stayed on habbo to bet, im sure sulake and most habbos will be glad to see the back of you. casinos have completely ruined super rares, hoard them and force the value down so im pleased.

[Plebings]

hm..

i'm fully against gambling on here, but i didn't have a problem as it didn't affect me. my main issue will be people attemting to bypass this rule, which may result in even more chance based furni being revoked. e.g. wired add on: random effect, banzai teles, wired teleports. all have a chance factor, and all will result in the regression of habbo games.
i'm really concerned..

[j0rd]

if you only stayed on habbo to bet, im sure sulake and most habbos will be glad to see the back of you. casinos have completely ruined super rares, hoard them and force the value down so im pleased.

if anything, hoarders force the value down..

[TheJokerEffect]

Okay, i have to admit am laughing at Habbo's failure, but why is there Dice in rooms still, isn't there a limit of 3? Someone please clarify ^_^

[:odey:]

Okay, i have to admit am laughing at Habbo's failure, but why is there Dice in rooms still, isn't there a limit of 3? Someone please clarify ^_^

If you have more than 3 they don't work I don't think.

[Yawn]

i dont like this it doesnt rly affect me i never go in casinos but betting is a big part of habbo it will be weird without it

[xxMATTGxx]

Well we should have known it was coming when that thread was posted a few months ago or could have been more recent about them funding the code for limiting they dice in a room. Interesting move for sure.

[Samantha]

http://www.habbo.com/articles/3165-credits-for-randomizers

http://snag.gy/ZAoWF.jpg

Putting the specific furniture in today will get you 6 Credits.

[UrbanThesaurus]

haha lol

and i just got into betting again

[:odey:]

Extremely lucky if you have a stack of bottles.

[Okeanos]

if anything, hoarders force the value down..

did you even read what i said? :rolleyes:

[Lewis]

However, from now on using randomizers with a possibility to place bets may result in trading passes being removed temporarily and repeat offenses will result in permanent removal of trading passes.

Damn you habbo.

[Lew]

I'm really against this update, and I don't even gamble.

People come on habbo to have fun, if their fun involves gambling, who cares?

Something should be done about people that scam, not to just take the game away from everyone..

[Yawn]

tarot tree stump, love thermometer? :S

[Brad]

Lots of higher or lower, and lots of other games for betting I guess. One with those Banzai teleporters. Haha

[lucaskf390]

You can use a pet to choose right or left and bet to see who wins, if people like gambling they'll find a way to do it, no matter what habbo do.

Better wait for this impact days but everything will decrease in price.

[UrbanThesaurus]

I'm really against this update, and I don't even gamble.

People come on habbo to have fun, if their fun involves gambling, who cares?

Something should be done about people that scam, not to just take the game away from everyone..

exactly this

the fun has being sucked out the game :( and it's a real shame

[Lewis]

Time for me to move back to runescape again! Anyone else care to join me? :(

[dbgtz]

Whilst I despise this completely, at least they have a decent "refund" policy. Anyone who was around for the merge basically got some **** rares as compensation which is now worth bugger all."

[Puuma]

people who are upset over this clearly have an unhealthy addiction to gambling on Habbo, which honestly is a problem a lot of people face irl it's leading young kids subtly into that same irl addiction. if there are any 18+ Habbo's upset about this, then simply switch over to a gambling site where gambling is not only legal, but encouraged. this is Habbo, folks, and unfortunately it is directed at teens not adults addicted to gambling.

Gambling is against the law for minors for a reason my friends. Disagree with it or not, this was the right choice.

[dbgtz]

people who are upset over this clearly have an unhealthy addiction to gambling on Habbo, which honestly is a problem a lot of people face irl it's leading young kids subtly into that same irl addiction. if there are any 18+ Habbo's upset about this, then simply switch over to a gambling site where gambling is not only legal, but encouraged. this is Habbo, folks, and unfortunately it is directed at teens not adults addicted to gambling.

Gambling is against the law for minors for a reason my friends. Disagree with it or not, this was the right choice.

I think it's more gambling was the only way for some people to get credits than anything else.

[Zak]

What's the likelihood Habbo didn't want to implement this change either? ...

Most of the community might as well quit now if gambling is against the Habbo Way and they enforce the bans.

[Puuma]

to everyone who thinks that habbo revolves around gambling: good bye, nice knowing you (not)... good riddance.

[Empired]

people who are upset over this clearly have an unhealthy addiction to gambling on Habbo, which honestly is a problem a lot of people face irl it's leading young kids subtly into that same irl addiction. if there are any 18+ Habbo's upset about this, then simply switch over to a gambling site where gambling is not only legal, but encouraged. this is Habbo, folks, and unfortunately it is directed at teens not adults addicted to gambling.

Gambling is against the law for minors for a reason my friends. Disagree with it or not, this was the right choice.

Actually I'm pretty annoyed because I had an event room planned out for Habbox's Easter Eggstavaganza which I'm now having to make some fast changes to because of the dice and other limits :(

[UrbanThesaurus]

people who are upset over this clearly have an unhealthy addiction to gambling on Habbo, which honestly is a problem a lot of people face irl it's leading young kids subtly into that same irl addiction. if there are any 18+ Habbo's upset about this, then simply switch over to a gambling site where gambling is not only legal, but encouraged. this is Habbo, folks, and unfortunately it is directed at teens not adults addicted to gambling.

Gambling is against the law for minors for a reason my friends. Disagree with it or not, this was the right choice.

ok i get ur point puma but erm weren't u the one who made a big casino ages ago lol? xx

[Puuma]

Actually I'm pretty annoyed because I had an event room planned out for Habbox's Easter Eggstavaganza which I'm now having to make some fast changes to because of the dice and other limits :(

I honestly understand that completely. It's unfortunate they had to ruin certain games by doing this, but still worth it IMO.

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ok i get ur point puma but erm weren't u the one who made a big casino ages ago lol? xx

Yes, and I removed myself from casinos and the entire casino scene willingly after realizing how corrupt and stupid they were.

[Ozzinator$]

I rarely play games on Habbo anymore, but I did enjoy the bingo games, it was one of my favourite games to play. This won't affect me in anyway as I mainly go on to chat but they are slowly taking away the games I used to really enjoy when I was younger.

[Mr-Trainor]

I can see a lot of rares going down in price, with the throne already below 300c on the marketplace. But I'm sure the regular 'gamblers' are just a small proportion of the total population on Habbo.

[Cerinacy$]

In some ways this is a good step forward and in other ways it's a step backwards. Not really sure what to think other than what a pain for my trial at events! :(

[Lewis]

We should get compensation for all of the rares that are getting ruined. I've lost over 1500c now due to thrones going down. And of course, it wouldn't have went down this much if it wasn't for this.

[Yawn]

puma u sound bitter, did u have any bad experiences with gambling? xx

[MKR&*42]

This is beyond ridiculous, no it hasn't 'ruined' habbo, but surely this counts as gambling based on what Macklebee said;

- I lose a round of bingo-
- I pay to stay and gamble on the fact that I might make it through the next round-
- I end up winning the entire game, because I gambled 1 piece of furni to win-.

This is a stupid update, I'm not even an avid casino player nor do i play many dice events, but it doesn't take a genius to see this is ****** up.
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and no this is just going to make all habbox events hosts do heaven or hell now........................

[Cerys]

Hahaa hxe are so gonna fail now rip
Doesn't bother me - don't use habbo

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[Puuma]

puma u sound bitter, did u have any bad experiences with gambling? xx

if you think the truth is bitter, then so be it. i just think it's ridiculous everyone is crying over it.

1. this is habbo if you want to gamble go to pokerstars
2. gambling SHOULD be discouraged among teens

[Kardan]

We should get compensation for all of the rares that are getting ruined. I've lost over 1500c now due to thrones going down. And of course, it wouldn't have went down this much if it wasn't for this.

Rares have gone up and down in the history of Habbo, it's nothing new.

[Kyle]

Higher or lower with 3 dice?

Others are fine though :P

I'm assuming stuff like fridges are also included in the ban? So there goes Don't get a carrot.
Most higher or lower is done with groups of habbos running into a "higher" or "lower" area of the room as the host rolls the dice. Can be done with 3 dice though, just turn the dice off and move it on to the front of the line. With dice limit the only things that are actually prevented are games that require each player to have a dice. 13/21/poker etc are still possible, just use the same dice more than once.

People seem to be reading too much into this. The rule is in place to prevent young children from gambling, not to prevent enjoyment of games that have some rng aspects. If we're really going to be pedantic about the word 'gambling' and suggest that p2s in a game is gambling on the chance to win the prize (as opposed to just paying to be in the game longer and have more fun...) then how about trading for an item? Surely by buying it you are gambling on it not being released into the catalogue and dropping in price dramatically?

The rule prevents people betting. Nothing else.

[Lewis]

Rares have gone up and down in the history of Habbo, it's nothing new.

This is a bit different though, it should be the same as how the merge was compensated (except a bit better than worthless furniture given this time). A throne losing over 100c of its value in less than a day isn't normal lol.

[steamyxo]

if you think the truth is bitter, then so be it. i just think it's ridiculous everyone is crying over it.

1. this is habbo if you want to gamble go to pokerstars
2. gambling SHOULD be discouraged among teens

lol your so right, people need to stop thinking habbo is only about "gambling", and getting upset about it. one thing im not too keen on tho is how other game have been seen into so much depth that somehow they relate to gambling, like p2p, your gving a furni to stay in the game... i would think its more of a "trade"

[jorsian]

I am not opposed to this. Contrary to what some people are saying, I think this shows a great future for the games floor of Habbo. People will find other ways to win furni so they will turn to games to make profits.

I never gambled much over my time on Habbo. I always subtly knew it was a way for the rich to get richer and the poor to get poorer. I didn't want to get sucked into it like so many others have. I found other ways to make profits which were just as lucrative, such as trading.

Children and teens should not be exposed to gambling as it will simply reinforce the habit later on in life. There are plenty of games and events that do not require dice. This will do nothing to hamper Habbox's or other fansites' ability to host events.

I think this is a smart move, and Sulake seems eager to moderate it properly, but I'm sure people will find alternative ways to gamble. They won't be able to ban every furni that has some sort of function or chance element from the hotel, so their only option is to enforce the rules by moderating strictly and actively.

[Puuma]

This is a bit different though, it should be the same as how the merge was compensated (except a bit better than worthless furniture given this time). A throne losing over 100c of its value in less than a day isn't normal lol.

uhm. i do recall several occasions where furniture value dropped drastically within 24 hours. gamblers shouldn't be compensated anyway, it's not like they forced you into dealing/betting... the merge was forced upon us, hence the compensation.

[Michael]

I just heard that they had to stop gambling because of the age rating on the Habbo mobile application, if they continued they'd have to tick 'betting' on the application meaning that only only users 18+ would be able to download it - and a prompt would come up warning them that it is 18+ to play. If they gave Apple false details, and went with that there is no betting on the hotel - they could see their app developer account being terminated.

[Mr-Trainor]

uhm. i do recall several occasions where furniture value dropped drastically within 24 hours. gamblers shouldn't be compensated anyway, it's not like they forced you into dealing/betting... the merge was forced upon us, hence the compensation.
It's not just gamblers who own Thrones :P.

[Kardan]

This is a bit different though, it should be the same as how the merge was compensated (except a bit better than worthless furniture given this time). A throne losing over 100c of its value in less than a day isn't normal lol.

As I said before, things like this have always happened in the past. People that had super rares that were released into the catalogue were never compensated.

[Puuma]

It's not just gamblers who own Thrones :P.

i wasn't implying that it was? i'm just saying, people need to stop expecting things from Habbo. believe it or not, you don't ACTUALLY own any of the furniture you possess on Habbo :O

[Kardan]

Most higher or lower is done with groups of habbos running into a "higher" or "lower" area of the room as the host rolls the dice. Can be done with 3 dice though, just turn the dice off and move it on to the front of the line. With dice limit the only things that are actually prevented are games that require each player to have a dice. 13/21/poker etc are still possible, just use the same dice more than once.

People seem to be reading too much into this. The rule is in place to prevent young children from gambling, not to prevent enjoyment of games that have some rng aspects. If we're really going to be pedantic about the word 'gambling' and suggest that p2s in a game is gambling on the chance to win the prize (as opposed to just paying to be in the game longer and have more fun...) then how about trading for an item? Surely by buying it you are gambling on it not being released into the catalogue and dropping in price dramatically?

The rule prevents people betting. Nothing else.

Ah, all the Higher or Lower I've seen is a row of dice and each person takes their turn to try and reach the end of the dice.

[Mr-Trainor]

i wasn't implying that it was? i'm just saying, people need to stop expecting things from Habbo. believe it or not, you don't ACTUALLY own any of the furniture you possess on Habbo :O
Erm, I'm fully aware that Sulake owns all the virtual items legally speaking, and you certainly don't need to start telling me about their terms and conditions.



@Lewis (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=70869); said users should be compensated for the effect this has on certain rare items, including the Throne
You replied with 'gamblers shouldn't be compensated'
I pointed out that gamblers aren't the only people who own Thrones. I am not implying that all users in possession of the Throne virtual item actually own it in legal terms.

[Puuma]

Erm, I'm fully aware that Sulake owns all the virtual items legally speaking, and you certainly don't need to start telling me about their terms and conditions.



@Lewis (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=70869); said users should be compensated for the effect this has on certain rare items, including the Throne
You replied with 'gamblers shouldn't be compensated'
I pointed out that gamblers aren't the only people who own Thrones. I am not implying that all users in possession of the Throne virtual item actually own it in legal terms.


then being butthurt over the price decrease is pretty pointless, huh? :)

[Mr-Trainor]

then being butthurt over the price decrease is pretty pointless, huh? :)
Clearly you've mistaken me for someone else.. I've only had positive effects from the gambling ban so far as a result of getting 6c per my holodice.

[Puuma]

Clearly you've mistaken me for someone else.. I've only had positive effects from the gambling ban so far as a result of getting 6c per my holodice.

Ah. Well I wasn't implying that ONLY casino goers had thrones, I was simply stating my opinion regarding expecting compensation.

[myles]

Hard day for Cassie, all het events consisted of dices

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[UrbanThesaurus]

casinos will return

[sex]

DICE MASTERS ARE GOING TO PLUMMET I H8 TO OWN ONE

[HABBZ-0]

I'm really surprised that people didn't see this update coming sooner, it was only a matter of time really. I'm not that fussed they got rid, but it's a shame because casinos have played a massive part on the habbo economy and the community in general for ages, even before i joined around 04. They are what keep the demand of the majority of rares and supers so high. Casino owners, players etc make up at least a third of the current users on habbo and the
last thing habbo should be doing is putting off more people from playing this game, at least until they get the population back up.

[sex]

im happy, people got a hard on when they won lots and bragging about how much they had

[e5]

I'm 50/50 with this. If I had the choice id want it to stay but it's kinda cool to have such a big change. If I still only played habbo for casinos then id be annoyed but since I can't afford to and just don't in general I'm not too fussed. Might be quite good to see what people come up with now instead :)

[Eric]

Habbo's gonna crash

[karter]

LMFAOOOO #werk i love this i'm in 100% support

[Lewis]

uhm. i do recall several occasions where furniture value dropped drastically within 24 hours. gamblers shouldn't be compensated anyway, it's not like they forced you into dealing/betting... the merge was forced upon us, hence the compensation.

What does habbo not forcing you to bet / gamble have anything to do with this? Many people own thrones and other rare items and do not bet. Yes I'm a better, but not everyone bets yet they can still own thrones and all that?

The ban of gambling was also forced upon us. Causing those who own thrones and other rares, those who gamble and do not gamble, to lose a LOT of coins.

[karter]

people who are threatening to quit don't be silly you're mad addicted and it's not like you're precious lol habbo doesnt caree

[FlyingJesus]

Higher or lower with 3 dice?

Yeah the good version which is multiplayer with 2 areas that you walk into and the host rolls, only need 1 die


http://www.habbo.com/articles/3165-credits-for-randomizers

http://snag.gy/ZAoWF.jpg

Putting the specific furniture in today will get you 6 Credits.

Ahahahahaaaaa loving this dicemasters at 6c


We should get compensation for all of the rares that are getting ruined. I've lost over 1500c now due to thrones going down. And of course, it wouldn't have went down this much if it wasn't for this.

No you shouldn't, if you use them as currency then it's an investment and you've lost stock just as can happen to anyone who chooses to invest in something. Not being made aware that you were going to lose it doesn't make you liable to compensation

[Chris]

Not a very good move :( It's bad enough for players but it's going to hinder Habbox and other fansites for sure.

[FlyingJesus]

Yeah we're going to have to rely on events that aren't boring and require host interaction boooooo

[iBlueBox]

One of the reasons I've heard it happened was due to the age rating of the habbo app for iOS. With Casinos they would of had to tick gambling making the age rating go up.

[ReallyOkay]

Damnnnnn lol well Habbo... hm... I really wish they would have waited on this iPad app. From a business standpoint isolating a % of your population seems dangerous. At least when business is already down. There are so many other features that could be implemented to help non betting games/events. Thus giving "gamblers" time to find a new niche that would put their hordes of furniture to use, driving in new players for the right reason. Of course blackmarkets will find a way around this. Habbo has to be on top of them if they really want to end it. All in all these updates from the past week are messy and not thought through. In no way do I support minors gambling but I do think this was the wrong time to do this. Give me a call Sulake I'll set you straight ;)

[lemons]

lmfaoooooooooooooOOOOO oh my god this is the BEST DAY EVER! well done habbo hotel

[JaiHo]

Personally I'm really happy that they banned gambling I think it's a good thing, arcades were getting CHILDREN addicted to gambling and IDC what anyone says that's not a good thing.

[MKR&*42]

Might be a silly q, but does an app -HAVE- to be on the app store to download it onto iPad or whatever, or can you download from an external source (e..g Sulake could have put it on their own website?).

[LoveToStack]

Fridges still assign items pseudorandomly as best I can tell (even in rooms with loads of fridges) which is exactly how dice generated numbers. I've long been a proponent of a fridge-based gambling system. Set up a casino with fridges in the place of dice, call your room a "Juice bar" or some other nonsense that will fly and continue your illegal sub-18 gambling.

If they're too stupid to properly enforce a gambling ban because they're out of touch with the game and what furni does what then so be it.

[FlyingJesus]

Might be a silly q, but does an app -HAVE- to be on the app store to download it onto iPad or whatever, or can you download from an external source (e..g Sulake could have put it on their own website?).

Of course they could do that, just like they could have kept gambling a problem on the client and raised the age level on the app store download, but they want to reach as large a market as they can rather than just their own current users :P

[Kittysoft]

Might be a silly q, but does an app -HAVE- to be on the app store to download it onto iPad or whatever, or can you download from an external source (e..g Sulake could have put it on their own website?).

Yes. Apple controls its app store market so it has to go through them.

[xxMATTGxx]

Might be a silly q, but does an app -HAVE- to be on the app store to download it onto iPad or whatever, or can you download from an external source (e..g Sulake could have put it on their own website?).

If they want to run it on iOS then yes they will have to put it on the app store which is managed and controlled by Apple. There is ways around that but that would only count for jailbroken devices and a company isn't going to do that. The appstore is an important part of the puzzle.

[MKR&*42]

If they want to run it on iOS then yes they will have to put it on the app store which is managed and controlled by Apple. There is ways around that but that would only count for jailbroken devices and a company isn't going to do that. The appstore is an important part of the puzzle.


Yes. Apple controls its app store market so it has to go through them.


Of course they could do that, just like they could have kept gambling a problem on the client and raised the age level on the app store download, but they want to reach as large a market as they can rather than just their own current users :P

Thanks for the answers/help you three :P

[MrBagheera]

...

The rule prevents people betting. Nothing else.

Hear him. Betting, as in "the action of gambling money on the outcome of a race, game, or other unpredictable event". AFAIK playing random games for fun is perfectly OK.

[!x!dude!x!2]

oh my god. What has happened to Habbo. 3 dice. I can't even ...

Now you cant host bingo when you ask me what to host :(

[Lewis]

Hear him. Betting, as in "the action of gambling money on the outcome of a race, game, or other unpredictable event". AFAIK playing random games for fun is perfectly OK.

Why not just ban gambling instead of doing that and a dice limit? This ruins so much. Sure, you could use an excuse that it's hard to moderate, but you could say the same about people advertising scam links and hacking links--why not ban talking too, then?

(You probably aren't the one that actually made this rule or whatever, so I'm not blaming you!)

[lemons]

Hear him. Betting, as in "the action of gambling money on the outcome of a race, game, or other unpredictable event". AFAIK playing random games for fun is perfectly OK.

u okay mate hey

just to let you know people are using scoreboards to make grabbers (replacing the dice with scoreboards)

u should limit those as well :)

[MKR&*42]

u realise people can also get round the scoreboards (for grabbers) by jus putting it in the corner of a room and using stickies on the wall too?

lmao this is such a poor idea

[Inseriousity.]

Must be the only person who likes bingo. lmao more chance to win now I suppose

[Mr-Trainor]

Received this message in client which I don't think was posted before.

Dear Mr-Trainor

We’ve noticed that you run a popular game room. Games like Falling Furni, Costume Change, and Telephrase (plus many others) fill our navigator and bring pleasure to millions of players every month. Although most player-made games are harmless fun, some games unfortunately bring negative side effects.

For this reason we've decided to make a change to the Habbo Way to ensure we build the best possible online community for Teens.

Starting today, we’re adding a limit to the number of chance elements that can function in a room (e.g. Dicemasters, Wheel of Fortune, Fortune Tellers). Placing more than 3 chance elements will disable all randomizer functions in the room. You can continue using them as decorative elements as usual. If this causes you to now have more of these items than required, please check out our recycler, which will be running a custom refund program for the impacted items during the next four weeks.

The reason for doing this is the feedback we have received from our users. Rooms with a great number of chance elements in them are often linked to hacking, fraud and/or cheating, and are therefore harmful to the Habbo experience. We do not assume that this harm was intentionally caused to the community, but these negative effects simply come with the territory.

We continue to encourage you to create different kind of games for the enjoyment of other users (e.g. Mazes, Melting Mats and Falling Furni). However, from now on using randomizers with a possibility to place bets may result in trading passes being removed temporarily and repeat offenses will result in permanent removal of trading passes.

We're sure we can count on your support to explore the talent and creativity of the Habbo community in a different way.

-Habbo Staff

[FlyingJesus]

Yeah I got that I was like wow do I

[Mr-Trainor]

Oh yeah just noticed my other account with no rooms anyone else has ever been in got the same msg lol.

[Empired]

Oh yeah just noticed my other account with no rooms anyone else has ever been in got the same msg lol.
I got it too and so did at least 4 other people in HxHD. I assume it was a mass message that was just badly worded.

[Sian]

i got it too.

i havent owned a game/events room in like 2 years...

[Shorty]

Received this message in client which I don't think was posted before.
Can confirm that removing trade passes is now available to moderators via in-game client moderation tools.

As for this, it's just another way for Habbo to control the economy by making sure players aren't making their fortunes from gambling, as well as keeping parents and 'officials' happy with no underage gambling.

[Okeanos]

As for this, it's just another way for Habbo to control the economy by making sure players aren't making their fortunes from gambling, as well as keeping parents and 'officials' happy with no underage gambling.

what rubbish. casino owners dont 'make' their fortunes, they buy it illegally. any casino owner who says differently is a big fat liar. i suspect they did this for two reasons, to kill the black market (which is fueled by casino owners) and because of app age restrictions.

[Hyru]

I predict coin shops & trade rooms will flourish once again. However, it will take a while for the economy to get over this stumbling block. Supply will decrease overtime, demand will increase. Everyone is panic selling their stuff which I think isn't the right move..

[Plebings]

ugh, things like the grabber lemons; reported are the reason i'm super worried, there will always be a way around finding random chance elements on the hotel, so when will the furni restrictions stop?

take away our dice, but taking away our fridges, scoreboards, wired, banzais will really put a crack on the foundation of habbo games.

[lemons]

Can confirm that removing trade passes is now available to moderators via in-game client moderation tools.


oh my god

[Paige.]

so they give like double the value back for holodice but half the value back for dicemasters??? good logic, lost about 4gb from this brilliant idea

[Matt]

so they give like double the value back for holodice but half the value back for dicemasters??? good logic, lost about 4gb from this brilliant idea

Awh Paige, I think their whole idea about trying to make habbo a better place has really just messed with the values of stuff in the hotel. Thrones have plummeted too and I regret not buying holo dice now :(

[Paige.]

Awh Paige, I think their whole idea about trying to make habbo a better place has really just messed with the values of stuff in the hotel. Thrones have plummeted too and I regret not buying holo dice now :(

yeah, just realised most of the other stuff i bought like petal patches and pillows have deceased in value plus i'm not going to be able to sell most of the stuff anyway as they're casino furni :( omg same, i was going to make just a grabber with holos but decided to go big or go home, damn it :/

[lemons]

PROTESTS RIGHT NOW IN WELCOME LOUNGE

http://i.imgur.com/M9vffP4.png

[UrbanThesaurus]

PROTESTS RIGHT NOW IN WELCOME LOUNGE

http://i.imgur.com/M9vffP4.png

hahaha i've just joined this is class

[lemons]

EMERGENCY EMERGENCY

http://i.imgur.com/pSTnKb5.png

- - - Updated - - -

cowboy is crying to cover up the death of bradtheladlong;
http://i.imgur.com/KbyFrPi.png

[Sandoo]

Cowboystyle and MrCroissant have increased the room limit and so the WL is full of protesting noobs.
http://i.imgur.com/f8R2kqz.png

[MKR&*42]

See now I wondered when the limit became 200.

[UrbanThesaurus]

Cowboystyle and MrCroissant have increased the room limit and so the WL is full of protesting noobs.
http://i.imgur.com/f8R2kqz.png

noobs??! i'm in that picture you cheeky bugger

bottom left 8-)

[Tyrell]

WAIT so they can't be used in things like Carnis anymore?

[MKR&*42]

WAIT so they can't be used in things like Carnis anymore?

u can provided theres not more than 3 in a room lols so no point rlly

[UrbanThesaurus]

WAIT so they can't be used in things like Carnis anymore?

YOU ARE ONLY ALLOWED 3 DICE [[[[[MAX]]]]] IN ANY HABBO ROOM

IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN THAT - THE DICE WILL NOT ROLL

[Tyrell]

u can provided theres not more than 3 in a room lols so no point rlly


YOU ARE ONLY ALLOWED 3 DICE [[[[[MAX]]]]] IN ANY HABBO ROOM

IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN THAT - THE DICE WILL NOT ROLL

That's stupid. They should've just shut down any room branded 'casino' like they would any room titled 'brothel' etc

[UrbanThesaurus]

That's stupid. They should've just shut down any room branded 'casino' like they would any room titled 'brothel' etc

i didnt mean to sound mad or anythin thats just how i get my point across lol

apologies!!

[lemons]

habbo just banned my channel 4 news account LMFAO

[Lew]

this welcome lounge *REMOVED* is funny

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[MKR&*42]

CRYING they just kcked everyone n the room to try and solve the problem....everyone jus walked right back in and started again

[UrbanThesaurus]

CRYING they just kcked everyone n the room to try and solve the problem....everyone jus walked right back in and started again

oh is that what happened i thought i got afk kicked

[Lewis]

I'm logging on to join in the protest lemons;!

[MKR&*42]

They upped room limit again... 270 people in here rn...

[UrbanThesaurus]

gotta be honest dont think they care lol

[MKR&*42]

Lmaooo am pre much shocked more than a tenth of the hotel are in the welcome lounge rn....

[Lewis]

I keep freezing whenever I try to stay in for more than 30s :(.

[UrbanThesaurus]

theres now 230, wat happened?!!

[Lewis]

People are saying bradtheladlong killed himself over the dice ban, what the heck is going on lol

[xxMATTGxx]

People are saying bradtheladlong killed himself over the dice ban, what the heck is going on lol

Well I was told he killed himself a day or two before the dice ban was even announced. So I doubt it's true at all.

[cameron354]

Well I was told he killed himself a day or two before the dice ban was even announced. So I doubt it's true at all.

Look, it's a rumour, that is all it is. The internet is rife with rumours, so how do we know this is true? We don't. What is yhis guy well know on Habbo for? I saw a few videos on youtube by him and I don't really find them entertaining. It's just a guy with a stupid black hood over his head singing. In my opinion, he looks so stupid with that hoody and sunglasses.

[Puuma]

People are saying bradtheladlong killed himself over the dice ban, what the heck is going on lol

I've heard several reasons as to why he "killed himself". The first time it was brought to my attention he had logged in later that day, I guess he forgot there were other ways to check last login than simply looking at the profile.

[MKR&*42]

It is a rumour brad came on Habbo yday telling people it was a load of bull... lol, people are only saying it to cause more drama :P

[xxMATTGxx]

Look, it's a rumour, that is all it is. The internet is rife with rumours, so how do we know this is true? We don't. What is yhis guy well know on Habbo for? I saw a few videos on youtube by him and I don't really find them entertaining. It's just a guy with a stupid black hood over his head singing. In my opinion, he looks so stupid with that hoody and sunglasses.

I know it's a rumour, I'm not that stupid. I wouldn't believe it until some sort of legitimate source confirmed it was true.

[cameron354]

I know it's a rumour, I'm not that stupid. I wouldn't believe it until some sort of legitimate source confirmed it was true.

It wasn't really directed at you. It's just annoying seeing all that crap in the welcome lounge.

[Hidden]

Brad told them himself that he died, how can it be a lie ://?

[lemons]

r.i.p brad

[Cerys]

Is that why Skandair is never online anymore. Damn i knew he was secretly brad.

Rumours are pretty sad tbh

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[MKR&*42]

Nooo brad came on and was telling people "im not dead wtf???" and stuff haha @Hidden

unless that wasnt directed at me, if so mb

[ARTPOP]

i dont mind if they are on the hotel just like im not bothered now they are gone.

[FlyingJesus]

With the money back thingy do you just whack them in the recycler or will that give me something crap

[Empired]

With the money back thingy do you just whack them in the recycler or will that give me something crap
It'll give you one of those recycling box thingies. If you open the box you automatically get 6c added to your purse.

[FlyingJesus]

Oh fab I was hesitant in case it gave me like a doormat or whatever you usually get from it :P will lit piss everywhere if in a couple of weeks they change their mind and no-one has dice any more

[Samantha]

Oh fab I was hesitant in case it gave me like a doormat or whatever you usually get from it :P will lit piss everywhere if in a couple of weeks they change their mind and no-one has dice any more

Lol, I was thinking this too. However, I believe many players will just be recycling any Holodice they have and any Dicemaster they found below 6c (which is unlikely as they were 14-16c before). The Wheel Of Fortunes will be recycled too (going off the 6c ones at the moment), but I think there will still be a lot of Dicemasters n circulation at least as they would just release the Holodice and Wheel Of Fortunes back into the Catalogue again.

[October]

http://www.habbo.com/articles/3170-sharing-habbo-values-games-update



Luck games are also against the habbo way.

http://i58.tinypic.com/4rz3ic.png

Thread Merged by Despect (Forum Moderator) as there's already a thread on this topic
what room is that

[Puuma]

What sort of "luck" games are you referring to?

[UrbanThesaurus]

why was tree stump included in the furnimatic thing btw?


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[Kyle]

what room is that
bubble lounge owned by macklebee

What sort of "luck" games are you referring to?
I feel it necessary to point out again that games of luck are absolutely fine, it's just the gambling aspect that sulake are cracking down on.

why was tree stump included in the furnimatic thing btw?


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[jakey,,]

just thought i'd post my opinions on this ... i'd like to hate on me after this tho pls

positive:
- it gives us a life now ... no addictions to habbo no more
- gives me a reason to not care as much anymore
- keeps me richest as hard to earn/lose values now
- hopefully makes trading more of a key feature


negative ...
- it's been part of habbo for way over 8 years, too long to change routine. people were upset about snowstorm and battleball that hadn't even been around for 8 years constantly ... so can imagine this'll remain in history for people.
- taking away the home of people who resolve themselves around casino's. yes people may not like us but alot do like us, and we all know each other who find other activities not as stimulating.
- personal way it's causing me so much abuse and hate for what because i lost like alot of value.
- limits possibilities and feels like we're being treated on children being told how much dice we are allowed to use and how we ca nuse them ... to me kinda ironic how we pay to be habbo club (HC) for extra features, and dicemaster was one of the most famous original HC items along with club sofa. Now we are limited to using them, without considering how many hundreds of thousands if not couple million dice masters on .COM :L

but end of day good and bad for me :D

[Kyle]

just thought i'd post my opinions on this ... i'd like to hate on me after this tho pls

positive:
- it gives us a life now ... no addictions to habbo no more
- gives me a reason to not care as much anymore
- keeps me richest as hard to earn/lose values now
- hopefully makes trading more of a key feature


negative ...
- it's been part of habbo for way over 8 years, too long to change routine. people were upset about snowstorm and battleball that hadn't even been around for 8 years constantly ... so can imagine this'll remain in history for people.
- taking away the home of people who resolve themselves around casino's. yes people may not like us but alot do like us, and we all know each other who find other activities not as stimulating.
- personal way it's causing me so much abuse and hate for what because i lost like alot of value.
- limits possibilities and feels like we're being treated on children being told how much dice we are allowed to use and how we ca nuse them ... to me kinda ironic how we pay to be habbo club (HC) for extra features, and dicemaster was one of the most famous original HC items along with club sofa. Now we are limited to using them, without considering how many hundreds of thousands if not couple million dice masters on .COM :L

but end of day good and bad for me :D
how much money did you spend on habbo in total

[FlyingJesus]

Prob not as much as on black market sites

[jakey,,]

oops double post:


how much money did you spend on habbo in total
nothing really lol i earned it all from scratch over the years only spent money when i was a noob and we had to use sms and stuff lul

[Kyle]

Prob not as much as on black market sites
yh that's what i was implying in my post

oops double post:


nothing really lol i earned it all from scratch over the years only spent money when i was a noob and we had to use sms and stuff lul
total rubbish

[jakey,,]

yh that's what i was implying in my post

total rubbish
go ask all the big sino people alot of them seen me grow my wealth, casinos were a gold mine espec as i had 400+ diamond dealers, 16 - 24gb each. 391 gld dealers who paid 8-12gb each, etc etc and over 800 dealers have been removed in the past 8-10months so yano it wasn't hard

[Kyle]

go ask all the big sino people alot of them seen me grow my wealth, casinos were a gold mine espec as i had 400+ diamond dealers, 16 - 24gb each. 391 gld dealers who paid 8-12gb each, etc etc and over 800 dealers have been removed in the past 8-10months so yano it wasn't hard
I agree it isn't hard to get an extreme surplus profit from an already existing wealth, what I'm arguing is the means by which you obtained that wealth in the first place. You may not be out of pocket but that doesn't mean that you (and by 'you' I am pointing at all the big casino owners, not just you in particular here) didn't buy it illegally to begin with. Very very very few people accrue their habbo wealth today by legitimate means.

[jakey,,]

I agree it isn't hard to get an extreme surplus profit from an already existing wealth, what I'm arguing is the means by which you obtained that wealth in the first place. You may not be out of pocket but that doesn't mean that you (and by 'you' I am pointing at all the big casino owners, not just you in particular here) didn't buy it illegally to begin with. Very very very few people accrue their habbo wealth today by legitimate means.
ehhh i didn't i just got lucky and spent most my life on this god damn game, but of course the blackmarket is huge has been for years and probably will still remain it, if anything prices on it will go up because people will find it hard to supply gold bars due to not being able to earn them fast haha

[Kyle]

ehhh i didn't i just got lucky and spent most my life on this god damn game, but of course the blackmarket is huge has been for years and probably will still remain it, if anything prices on it will go up because people will find it hard to supply gold bars due to not being able to earn them fast haha
But what demand is there for gold bars when there is nowhere to bet them and get even more rich?
This gambling clamp down coupled with furniture bundle releases slowly evening out availability of furniture ranges means that there won't, I don't think, be as much of a demand to buy coins. Currently purchasing a bundle for £3 is more cost and time-effective than buying 2 gold bars and buying each item separately. Super rares were only ever used to display wealth in casinos and as such will drop dramatically in price, don't you think?

Aside from counting the coins in your purse, what is the purpose of habbo for you? What was it in the past? What drew you into gambling?

[jakey,,]

But what demand is there for gold bars when there is nowhere to bet them and get even more rich?
This gambling clamp down coupled with furniture bundle releases slowly evening out availability of furniture ranges means that there won't, I don't think, be as much of a demand to buy coins. Currently purchasing a bundle for £3 is more cost and time-effective than buying 2 gold bars and buying each item separately. Super rares were only ever used to display wealth in casinos and as such will drop dramatically in price, don't you think?

Aside from counting the coins in your purse, what is the purpose of habbo for you? What was it in the past? What drew you into gambling?
really good questions but you'd be surprised how many fansite people and mafia people buy credits in the blackmarket, alot more then casinoers. So now we can't earn as much it's a lower supply so makes it better for people in the long run if your a blackmarketer.

and to your last questions habbo ... i been here 11years as u can tell 8 years on this forum aswell like you, like i earned so much but it got unejoyable it was just too much of an opportunity to let go and now to me it's my childhood and time is what's keeping me. Staff said they felt sorry for me and said i'm incredibly talented for what i managed to do ... got the emails and screenies to proove but hey ho don't matter now right?
In the past it was games but they were like snowstorm wobble squabble .. you name it, then i came across gambling was so fun being with friends making furniture easy and i dunno was cool being in these rich rooms and being known yano? then it kinda hooked me in for 8 years, so now i can understand the good part that it stops me being addicted to it just a shame that it took so long yano?

[Kyle]

really good questions but you'd be surprised how many fansite people and mafia people buy credits in the blackmarket, alot more then casinoers. So now we can't earn as much it's a lower supply so makes it better for people in the long run if your a blackmarketer.

and to your last questions habbo ... i been here 11years as u can tell 8 years on this forum aswell like you, like i earned so much but it got unejoyable it was just too much of an opportunity to let go and now to me it's my childhood and time is what's keeping me. Staff said they felt sorry for me and said i'm incredibly talented for what i managed to do ... got the emails and screenies to proove but hey ho don't matter now right?
In the past it was games but they were like snowstorm wobble squabble .. you name it, then i came across gambling was so fun being with friends making furniture easy and i dunno was cool being in these rich rooms and being known yano? then it kinda hooked me in for 8 years, so now i can understand the good part that it stops me being addicted to it just a shame that it took so long yano?
RPers and fansite owners are still a rather large portion of the market - yes - but I hope that with the release of further bundles that allow access to wide ranges of furniture that habbos will be a little more creative with what is immediately available to them rather than striving to be the biggest and the best. But hey, there's always going to people like that, so I guess the demand for blackmarket gold will remain. Bundles are 1 measure, perhaps habbo can introduce more measures to lessen it a little.

ss/ws/bb were fun games there is no doubt about that, they were simple yet effective, but we must remember that we are in the Wired Age now. If you can think of a concept for a game, there's sure as hell a way to make it work. A fellow forum member actually recreated the Rooftop Rumble and incorporated a fully functioning wabble squabble game into it just recently:

http://puu.sh/82MA2.png

The possibilities really are endless! Habbo is shifting from reliance on a team of staff to provide entertainment, towards allowing its users to have a huge creative input and redefine the game however they so wish.

Now that gambling is gone what use do you think your furniture has? Will you keep it all? Will you find a different way to make use of it? Will you donate (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=752300) some of it to help some fansites in their own pursuits? :P

[Okeanos]

just thought i'd post my opinions on this ... i'd like to hate on me after this tho pls

positive:
- it gives us a life now ... no addictions to habbo no more
- gives me a reason to not care as much anymore
- keeps me richest as hard to earn/lose values now
- hopefully makes trading more of a key feature


negative ...
- it's been part of habbo for way over 8 years, too long to change routine. people were upset about snowstorm and battleball that hadn't even been around for 8 years constantly ... so can imagine this'll remain in history for people.
- taking away the home of people who resolve themselves around casino's. yes people may not like us but alot do like us, and we all know each other who find other activities not as stimulating.
- personal way it's causing me so much abuse and hate for what because i lost like alot of value.
- limits possibilities and feels like we're being treated on children being told how much dice we are allowed to use and how we ca nuse them ... to me kinda ironic how we pay to be habbo club (HC) for extra features, and dicemaster was one of the most famous original HC items along with club sofa. Now we are limited to using them, without considering how many hundreds of thousands if not couple million dice masters on .COM :L

but end of day good and bad for me :D

1. if you needed habbo to ban dice to get a life, chances are you still wont have a life.
2. youve contradicted yourself - you say you no longer care but you still think being 'the richest' is a positive factor. as long as you believe habbo furni is important (and you evidently do), then you will still be addicted.
3. many, many people did not use casinos - dont over estimate their worth or impact on habbo.
4. casino noobs will no doubt find a new home


i earned it all from scratch over the years only spent money when i was a noob and we had to use sms and stuff lul

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Edited by Derrener (Forum Moderator): Please do not accuse others of scamming and illegal activity

[jakey,,]

RPers and fansite owners are still a rather large portion of the market - yes - but I hope that with the release of further bundles that allow access to wide ranges of furniture that habbos will be a little more creative with what is immediately available to them rather than striving to be the biggest and the best. But hey, there's always going to people like that, so I guess the demand for blackmarket gold will remain. Bundles are 1 measure, perhaps habbo can introduce more measures to lessen it a little.

ss/ws/bb were fun games there is no doubt about that, they were simple yet effective, but we must remember that we are in the Wired Age now. If you can think of a concept for a game, there's sure as hell a way to make it work. A fellow forum member actually recreated the Rooftop Rumble and incorporated a fully functioning wabble squabble game into it just recently:

http://puu.sh/82MA2.png

The possibilities really are endless! Habbo is shifting from reliance on a team of staff to provide entertainment, towards allowing its users to have a huge creative input and redefine the game however they so wish.

Now that gambling is gone what use do you think your furniture has? Will you keep it all? Will you find a different way to make use of it? Will you donate (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=752300) some of it to help some fansites in their own pursuits? :P
okay well kyle i can see where your coming from upon that when i saw that room looked like a retro tbh, but yaa i do agree that the opportunities are limitless like that wired piano, or guitar hero its pretty cool but i dunno i do feel they've taken away alot of people's homes and not provided a replacement as of yet.
To the rest of the quetion well like my furniture i really dunno what i can do with it like i'm going to keep it ... but realistically i dunno how i'm going to use it all.
Like who knows an alternative might ome up and with the fansite question yerr i will but that's why i'm at habbcrazy now haha ;) atleast i can do soming on habbcrazy now


1. if you needed habbo to ban dice to get a life, chances are you still wont have a life.
2. youve contradicted yourself - you say you no longer care but you still think being 'the richest' is a positive factor. as long as you believe habbo furni is important (and you evidently do), then you will still be addicted.
3. many, many people did not use casinos - dont over estimate their worth or impact on habbo.
4. casino noobs will no doubt find a new home



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erm i don't know how you can come to that assumption that because i was milking the opportunity of arcades and dice that i had no reason, i still had a life regardless of the sino or not i just left my account on 24/7. Now i'll just even have more of a life. Moreover i havn't contradicted myself because i don't care, but i can't help that i'm still the richest and that everyone will still envy me to an extent so don't understand that lol and then thirdly, just because a bunch of people didn't use casinos, but a good amount did of us, check my dealership groups i've got over 2k+ dealers doesn't mean they automatically ruled out. Because habbo did a research and collaboration group consisting of the most popular room owners on habbo, and 3 of the 12 members were casino owners, so enough said on that point.

Lastly i don't know how you can just say i've scammed, blackmailed and bought my wealth of the blackmarket when no-one's ever proved such a fact, so if you're going to go around waving fingers and accusing people of such activities atleast show us the proof, because i could easily say the same because you are part of a fansite. Not hard to make up a rumor or accusation is it now :rolleyes:

[Okeanos]

erm i don't know how you can come to that assumption that because i was milking the opportunity of arcades and dice that i had no reason, i still had a life regardless of the sino or not i just left my account on 24/7. Now i'll just even have more of a life. Moreover i havn't contradicted myself because i don't care, but i can't help that i'm still the richest and that everyone will still envy me to an extent so don't understand that lol and then thirdly, just because a bunch of people didn't use casinos, but a good amount did of us, check my dealership groups i've got over 2k+ dealers doesn't mean they automatically ruled out. Because habbo did a research and collaboration group consisting of the most popular room owners on habbo, and 3 of the 12 members were casino owners, so enough said on that point.

Lastly i don't know how you can just say i've scammed, blackmailed and bought my wealth of the blackmarket when no-one's ever proved such a fact, so if you're going to go around waving fingers and accusing people of such activities atleast show us the proof, because i could easily say the same because you are part of a fansite. Not hard to make up a rumor or accusation is it now :rolleyes:

im afraid you did contradict yourself, whether you choose to accept that is up to you. do you really think people envy you? truly, they dont. i do not see how 3 casino rooms being in that group proves anything; none of the rooms in that group are popular - just active - there's a big difference.

i really dont care if its been proven or not. i know very well where you get your rares. dont waste your time attempting to convince me you got them legitimately because we both know you'd be lying.

[Puuma]

Over two thousand dealers? Or the same 400 people (including duplicate accounts) in all of the dealer groups.

And the only reason, as you should know, that those rooms were constantly popular, is solely because of LMS. Maybe not always YOUR room, but that's definitely a factor. To ignore that part of it and claim that casinos are the most popular rooms ever is pretty ridiculous.

[jakey,,]

Over two thousand dealers? Or the same 400 people (including duplicate accounts) in all of the dealer groups.

And the only reason, as you should know, that those rooms were constantly popular, is solely because of LMS. Maybe not always YOUR room, but that's definitely a factor. To ignore that part of it and claim that casinos are the most popular rooms ever is pretty ridiculous.
Well if you look alot of them are legit, the ones removed are the same people buying on new accounts so still practically the number it says. Moreover to sum up your point ..
http://puu.sh/835nF/0ddba5bc2a.png
just because they aren't the most popular rooms 24/7 don't mean it isn't a loss j/s

[Puuma]

Well if you look alot of them are legit, the ones removed are the same people buying on new accounts so still practically the number it says. Moreover to sum up your point ..
http://puu.sh/835nF/0ddba5bc2a.png
just because they aren't the most popular rooms 24/7 don't mean it isn't a loss j/s

I didn't say it wasn't a loss, but you're acting like it's THE BIGGEST LOSS EVER when in reality, Habbo will survive without them.

[Hidden]

Most of casino user count was through clones, so yeah no point crying because you for one know it's true.

[Kyle]

why is everybody from habbulus so aggressive lol

[FlyingJesus]

What's a habbulus and why does that guy know so much about the activity of the black market if he doesn't use it

[Kyle]

What's a habbulus and why does that guy know so much about the activity of the black market if he doesn't use it
habulus is the fansite that hidde, pumma and others work for and they are getting irate at him

as the richest habbo I think it would make sense to at least have some knowledge about black market trading as it's probably something he finds himself experiencing whether he is willing or not - people asking to buy, knowing many people that do buy, etc.
jakey,,; habbcrazy is rubbish, you should donate to habbox instead.

[Michael]

Why does habboextra, habboquests, habbcrazy and habhome all use the same background for their site?

[Puuma]

why is everybody from habbulus so aggressive lol

Habulous* and sorry if you can't handle a debate hun.

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Why does habboextra, habboquests, habbcrazy and habhome all use the same background for their site?

didn't notice that until now, not like it's a surprise to see a lot of fansites looking similar.

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habulus is the fansite that hidde, pumma and others work for and they are getting irate at him

as the richest habbo I think it would make sense to at least have some knowledge about black market trading as it's probably something he finds himself experiencing whether he is willing or not - people asking to buy, knowing many people that do buy, etc.
jakey,,; habbcrazy is rubbish, you should donate to habbox instead.

so because we have a seperate opinion than the two of you, we're clearly the bad guys. LMAO god damnit, get OVER YOURSELVES.

[Kyle]

Habulous* and sorry if you can't handle a debate hun.

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so because we have a seperate opinion than the two of you, we're clearly the bad guys. LMAO god damnit, get OVER YOURSELVES.
more aggression. cool.

I made an observation relating to the confrontational manner in which you (hidden, particularly) seem to post on the forum. You're more than welcome to have a 'different opinion' and 'debate' (what's this debate about exactly?) but when it's structured and phrased in the way it is then it comes off badly for you and doesn't paint the owners of your fansite in a very friendly or welcoming light, that's all.

[Puuma]

more aggression. cool.

I made an observation relating to the confrontational manner in which you (hidden, particularly) seem to post on the forum. You're more than welcome to have a 'different opinion' and 'debate' (what's this debate about exactly?) but when it's structured and phrased in the way it is then it comes off badly for you and doesn't paint the owners of your fansite in a very friendly or welcoming light, that's all.

i was hardly aggressive i told you all (everyone who thinks we should agree with you) that you should probably figure out how to get over yourself. i'm posting on habbox about a dice ban, i'm not trying to promote my fansite here, so bringing fansites into this is absolutely 100% irrelevant. i'm blunt? and i'm certainly not trying to change who i am to please someone who is judging me before getting to know me :)!!

[Hidden]

I don't see in any way how me saying how casino rooms are populated has anything to do with being aggressive or fansites.

[FlyingJesus]

Never heard of any of them but calm down everyone let's sit down and have a nice game of bingo

...Oh

[Kyle]

i was hardly aggressive i told you all (everyone who thinks we should agree with you) that you should probably figure out how to get over yourself. i'm posting on habbox about a dice ban, i'm not trying to promote my fansite here, so bringing fansites into this is absolutely 100% irrelevant. i'm blunt? and i'm certainly not trying to change who i am to please someone who is judging me before getting to know me :)!!
We judge and are judged based on how we present ourselves regardless of the domain. You are an owner of a fansite and imo should have a little more decorum when posting on other habbo fansite forums no matter what the topic is - you're still representing and promoting your fansite.

I don't see in any way how me saying how casino rooms are populated has anything to do with being aggressive or fansites.
The aggression is more to do with some of your other posts but rudeness and confrontational attitude is clearly still apparent here. It's not what you said, it's the way you are saying it!

[karter]

we know how casinos were 'filled'

every idiot 'dealer' had 2 accounts logged in, one main and one 'safety'

rest are random idiots in the longest man in the box thingy and clone accounts to quick trade and scam

BOOM

[Puuma]

We judge and are judged based on how we present ourselves regardless of the domain. You are an owner of a fansite and imo should have a little more decorum when posting on other habbo fansite forums no matter what the topic is - you're still representing and promoting your fansite.

The aggression is more to do with some of your other posts but rudeness and confrontational attitude is clearly still apparent here. It's not what you said, it's the way you are saying it!

honestly, i think you're being extremely ignorant, i was in no way shape or form rude about anything i said. i simply stated my opinion based on my experience on Habbo. it's not really my fault that you took offense to it.

[FlyingJesus]

longest man in the box

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01005/peter_crouch_1005636c.jpg

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[karter]

last man in the box
whoever stays longest in the box

what is it called

[Kyle]

last man standing

and apology accepted puma x

[Hidden]

So what do my previous posts have to do with dices being removed or my last post? Oh wait... nothing. I guess you can't take an opinion that isn't the same as yours, I guess you still have a lot of learning to do.

[Kyle]

are you still going on

remember what I said about the thirst for confrontation? :P

someone came into the helpdesk last night and asked if p2s was against gambling rules... I think lines are being blurred a little on this issue and something concrete and official needs to be said - i.e. that only BETTING is against the rules and playing GAMES OF CHANCE isn't.

[Daltron]

why is everybody from habbulus so aggressive lol

My thoughts exactly :s
Let's allllll chilllllll out

[Puuma]

My thoughts exactly :s
Let's allllll chilllllll out

-_- for one thing, grouping everyone who is involved at habulous together for one thing that apparently bothered you is extremely unfair, as most of our staff don't even post here. if you guys have an issue with myself, or hidden then perhaps you should make it about us and not about the fansite that is completely irrelevant to this. apologies if you think we're aggressive, but, at the end of the day not everyone is going to agree with everything said, and i personally do not regret anything i have said.

but yeah, moral of the story is, if you have a problem with me then make it about me, and not people who don't even use habbox.

[Daltron]

-_- for one thing, grouping everyone who is involved at habulous together for one thing that apparently bothered you is extremely unfair, as most of our staff don't even post here. if you guys have an issue with myself, or hidden then perhaps you should make it about us and not about the fansite that is completely irrelevant to this. apologies if you think we're aggressive, but, at the end of the day not everyone is going to agree with everything said, and i personally do not regret anything i have said.

but yeah, moral of the story is, if you have a problem with me then make it about me, and not people who don't even use habbox.

I respect your right to voice your opinion and I welcome it here to the forum and I think you're a genuinely nice person. I just feel (not just you many people in this thread now) are becoming more and more aggressive over the issue as if we are not beating a dead horse already with the dice topic.

Interested to see what else you think
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[Puuma]

I respect your right to voice your opinion and I welcome it here to the forum and I think you're a genuinely nice person. I just feel (not just you many people in this thread now) are becoming more and more aggressive over the issue as if we are not beating a dead horse already with the dice topic.

Interested to see what else you think
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yeah it's definitely a touchy subject among many people still, it would be best to discuss stuff like this later on. but like me, everyone posting here obviously has the urge to get their thoughts out there since this is a massive change for a place that we all call home. many things that have been said here have unintentionally offended others, and i understand completely that not everyone will agree, but i wouldn't attack someone for having a different opinion than me, i'd simply reply with my own opinion. more as a debate than an argument, but others seem to see it differently.

[jakey,,]

to sum it up, if it makes you happy you don't need to gloat in people's faces. Alot of people lost a home and what they come on to do, and then there are alot of users who are laughing, and spitting in our faces? Because what habbo made a choice.

But ty @kyle for sticking up for me glad i'm not the only one that saw it

[Puuma]

a lot of people see the logic in it, actually. nobody is attacking dealers, just the stupid rumors and lies they are pulling from their behinds. and honestly, jake, all i said was something that conflicts with your own opinion, if you need to be shielded from that then i advise you to not interact with humans at all.

[Kyle]

a lot of people see the logic in it, actually. nobody is attacking dealers, just the stupid rumors and lies they are pulling from their behinds. and honestly, jake, all i said was something that conflicts with your own opinion, if you need to be shielded from that then i advise you to not interact with humans at all.
can you sum up your argument pls cos I don't quite understand whether you're arguing for the sake of it or actually want to have a discussion on a particular issue

[Puuma]

can you sum up your argument pls cos I don't quite understand whether you're arguing for the sake of it or actually want to have a discussion on a particular issue

umm, well currently i'm trying to defend myself against a couple of people randomly attacking me for not agreeing with them. there was never an argument, it's a shame you see it as such.

[jakey,,]

a lot of people see the logic in it, actually. nobody is attacking dealers, just the stupid rumors and lies they are pulling from their behinds. and honestly, jake, all i said was something that conflicts with your own opinion, if you need to be shielded from that then i advise you to not interact with humans at all.
j/s why are you trying to patronise people by underlining logic?? and also it sounds quite aggressive to me and i'm not the only person to point it out yano? Just because i stated my opinion don't mean i asked for you to state yours back to me as it's completely irrelevant and useless to me

[Kyle]

umm, well currently i'm trying to defend myself against a couple of people randomly attacking me for not agreeing with them. there was never an argument, it's a shame you see it as such.
stop extending a pointless argument and reiterate your original point so it can be properly countered. WHAT did you not agree with?

[Puuma]

stop extending a pointless argument and reiterate your original point so it can be properly countered. WHAT did you not agree with?

i literally just said that there was never an argument. i'm not sure how that's attempting to extend it lol. i stated where my disagreement lies in my previous posts, that were apparently too aggressive to be considered. so don't worry about it, and run along. i'm not going to sit here and have a conversation with someone who clearly can not handle the subject. apologies for the misunderstanding, take care!! :)

[Kyle]

oh dear ok. i'll reread tomorrow and find your point since you are not going to be forthcoming about it. ta ta!

[jakey,,]

oh dear ok. i'll reread tomorrow and find your point since you are not going to be forthcoming about it. ta ta!
well said kyle tbh

[Yawn]

like i said b4 puma seems bitter about sinos

i wonder wat bad experiences she had

[Puuma]

like i said b4 puma seems bitter about sinos

i wonder wat bad experiences she had


100% hun. they are corrupt messed up places. where you were only allowed to scam if you knew someone higher up in the dealer ranks. where hacking/hackers were not only accepted, but praised. i'm glad you caught on though, well done!

[Yawn]

100% hun. they are corrupt messed up places. where you were only allowed to scam if you knew someone higher up in the dealer ranks. where hacking/hackers were not only accepted, but praised. i'm glad you caught on though, well done!

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-uC4AdrH9ykM/T3OQcM3ewpI/AAAAAAAAA3Y/9olgpYbLd_Q/s1600/judge-judy-laptop.gif

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[Puuma]

oh dear ok. i'll reread tomorrow and find your point since you are not going to be forthcoming about it. ta ta!

i wouldn't bother, honestly, because i have no intent to converse with someone so ignorant. not even at a later day! bai!

[jakey,,]

100% hun. they are corrupt messed up places. where you were only allowed to scam if you knew someone higher up in the dealer ranks. where hacking/hackers were not only accepted, but praised. i'm glad you caught on though, well done!
not attacking anyone but kind of ironic if you think about your history and cody's right?

[Yawn]

so rude and uptight! wow! take a chill pill... not every1 out to get u! not ppl on this forum, not the sino peeps!

just relax hun

[Puuma]

not attacking anyone but kind of ironic if you think about your history and cody's right?


i'm sorry, did you really just say that? YOU of all people? haha don't make me laugh, jake.

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so rude and uptight! wow! take a chill pill... not every1 out to get u! not ppl on this forum, not the sino peeps!

just relax hun

i beg to differ lol. i stated an opinion i had, and two very immature dudes didn't like it much and though it would be pretty neat to attack me. hehe grow up dudes.

[Kyle]

this puma got her claws out tonight

[Puuma]

this puma got her claws out tonight

forever.

[jakey,,]

i'm sorry, did you really just say that? YOU of all people? haha don't make me laugh, jake.

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i beg to differ lol. i stated an opinion i had, and two very immature dudes didn't like it much and though it would be pretty neat to attack me. hehe grow up dudes.
i did hun dw :)

[Kyle]

i beg to differ lol. i stated an opinion i had, and two very immature dudes didn't like it
what opinion is it that you keep saying that you stated? I've asked numerous times but you seem to be avoiding it. Something about casino popularity?

[Puuma]

i did hun dw :)

don't forget that i knew you before you were in love with yourself as the richest Habbo. ;)

[lemons]

nerds

[jakey,,]

don't forget that i knew you before you were in love with yourself as the richest Habbo. ;)
and don't forget to catch the hint from the community, none of the habbox community are enjoying your presence due to your attitude towards people and matters ;)

[Puuma]

and don't forget to catch the hint from the community, none of the habbox community are enjoying your presence due to your attitude towards people and matters ;)

there you go again, grouping everyone together as a whole. it would appear i still have access to these forums, if i was truly unwanted, i would probably be banned, no? :)

unfortunately for you, it looks like you'll have to take a similar hint that Habbo does not like your casinos!

[Kyle]

answer my question *REMOVED*

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[jakey,,]

there you go again, grouping everyone together as a whole. it would appear i still have access to these forums, if i was truly unwanted, i would probably be banned, no? :)

unfortunately for you, it looks like you'll have to take a similar hint that Habbo does not like your casinos!
pretty sure they don't just ban because people don't like you otherwise alot of people would be banned on habbo if your using that logic luls

and there we go again attacking casinos ... you really aren't smart are you professor obvious xP

[Puuma]

pretty sure they don't just ban because people don't like you otherwise alot of people would be banned on habbo if your using that logic luls

and there we go again attacking casinos ... you really aren't smart are you professor obvious xP

i was attacking you, YOUR casino, that was full of scammers anyway. good riddance. goodbye!

[jakey,,]

i was attacking you, YOUR casino, that was full of scammers anyway. good riddance. goodbye!
that's not very professional of an official fansite owner, especially on habbo's top fansite forum :/
and my casino ... who was a scammer then? I thought we removed people who scammed and put them on a scam list, idk i guess i was just dreaming aha xP goodbye :) you go tell your friend you shut me down liek you do every time, when you never win arguments lol

[Puuma]

that's not very professional of an official fansite owner, especially on habbo's top fansite forum :/
and my casino ... who was a scammer then? I thought we removed people who scammed and put them on a scam list, idk i guess i was just dreaming aha xP goodbye :) you go tell your friend you shut me down liek you do every time, when you never win arguments lol

are you actually thick enough to say that about fansite owners whilst sitting here indulging in the exact same thing? really? i can't even like... ?????? and remember when you told some people to just re-buy rights if they scammed, simply for your own profit? but, you're absolutely right, there's nothing wrong with condoning scamming at all. also, last time i checked being an official fansite owner didn't mean not allowed to post on forums about certain topics haha.

[jakey,,]

are you actually thick enough to say that about fansite owners whilst sitting here indulging in the exact same thing? really? i can't even like... ?????? and remember when you told some people to just re-buy rights if they scammed, simply for your own profit? but, you're absolutely right, there's nothing wrong with condoning scamming at all. also, last time i checked being an official fansite owner didn't mean not allowed to post on forums about certain topics haha.
i came on here to express my view to the matter, then you came along and started trying to discuss it with me when i didn't ask for it and then you express aggressive and abusive behaviors to members of the community, which was noticed by many people.
So righht are you saying because i told somone they can't buy dealers on their main account because they scammed .. so i said they'd have to buy on another account. (obviously removed once caught) and if your're saying that's encouraging scamming then please god forbid .. because that's pretty damn common sense [not allowed dealers on this account -> buys on another account] lul !!!
Moreover it may not be against the terms for that, but i do know attacking members of the community is one not good for your fansite and two not allowed :)

[Puuma]

i came on here to express my view to the matter, then you came along and started trying to discuss it with me when i didn't ask for it and then you express aggressive and abusive behaviors to members of the community, which was noticed by many people.
So righht are you saying because i told somone they can't buy dealers on their main account because they scammed .. so i said they'd have to buy on another account. (obviously removed once caught) and if your're saying that's encouraging scamming then please god forbid .. because that's pretty damn common sense [not allowed dealers on this account -> buys on another account] lul !!!
Moreover it may not be against the terms for that, but i do know attacking members of the community is one not good for your fansite and two not allowed :)


tldr. i read the bottom though, and you attacked me too so feel free to mention that when you complain. :P bai!

[jakey,,]

tldr. i read the bottom though, and you attacked me too so feel free to mention that when you complain. :P bai!
xP woman got shutdown :)

[FlyingJesus]

Alot of people lost a home

Pissing at this tbh :P donate all your stuff to Habbox and that can be your home *+*+*


are you actually thick enough to say that about fansite owners whilst sitting here indulging in the exact same thing?

He didn't turn up to attack someone, I don't think you really have a point here. Is there no-one on Habbus or whatever that wants to talk to you

[jakey,,]

Pissing at this tbh :P donate all your stuff to Habbox and that can be your home *+*+*



He didn't turn up to attack someone, I don't think you really have a point here. Is there no-one on Habbus or whatever that wants to talk to you
took the words outta my mouth ;) kudos to you

[Puuma]

Pissing at this tbh :P donate all your stuff to Habbox and that can be your home *+*+*



He didn't turn up to attack someone, I don't think you really have a point here. Is there no-one on Habbus or whatever that wants to talk to you

sadly i don't know what habbus is, so i doubt anyone from there wants to talk to someone they don't know ;)

[jakey,,]

sadly i don't know what habbus is, so i doubt anyone from there wants to talk to someone they don't know ;)
j/s you said bai for like so many time just stick to your words and go :)

[Plebings]

this topic is still a big issue, and i'm sure many people would like to still be able to post in here if anything new occurs, so please don't get this thread closed due to petty comments and arguments.

[jakey,,]

this topic is still a big issue, and i'm sure many people would like to still be able to post in here if anything new occurs, so please don't get this thread closed due to petty comments and arguments.
that's fine by me i just defended myself when i was attacked :p atleast ppl settling down now abit more i found

[sex]

100% hun. they are corrupt messed up places. where you were only allowed to scam if you knew someone higher up in the dealer ranks. where hacking/hackers were not only accepted, but praised. i'm glad you caught on though, well done!

that made me lol

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[Jayke]

Jake/BelieveMe was a credit to the community, a community I was active in. I am not here to defend him or lick his arse, but I know for a fact the only reason your giving him hate is because he's loaded.

Although I have purchased goldbars in order to make profit from, as far as I know BMS doesn't RWT, however he is an indirect associate to those who do. He managed a great casino as well as -ohrach, he did his best to keep it secure and get rid of the scammers.

It's sad what habbo have done, but it is a childs game, gambling should never of been allowed in the first place.

[Daltron]

I am not here to defend him or lick his arse, but I know for a fact the only reason your giving him hate is because he's loaded.

Is it dark up there? Inside him? Have you even been reading this thread?

[Jayke]

Is it dark up there? Inside him? Have you even been reading this thread?

Pipe down.

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[andoo89]

is the dice limit active in all habbo hotels?

[Joshirin]

A lot of flaws were in casinos, which I agree, known hackers, and some scammers getting away with it

but habbo doing this will kill there game or at least slump it, just look at runescape in 2007 when they did something similar to this, the result? well from around 150k avg users to under 100k, a lot of desperate moves by Jagex to keep the players but wasn't working, the end result? well in around 2012 or so, they brought back free trade because of the damage that it has caused.

[LiquidLuck.]

When Charlie told me about this, I couldn't believe. Thank God I don't rely on my casino and grabber to make money anymore, or my Habbo bank account would be ruined haha. It's just a really stupid rule and even without any of this, fraud and hacking and all the problems will still find their way around in a different way.. Habbo is being ruined with every single change they make tbh..

[Zak]

Hachette's story in his main room was a good example of how it usually goes down.

I made a ton on casinos years back. They were really all I played Habbo for.

You're at an advantage if you own your own casino because then you can use scam clones. I do agree though it does encourage 'bad' behaviour (in some instances). Does it stop the main source of all this though? No.