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God
23-04-2014, 11:41 PM
So a few days ago I sent a letter to all the Leaders of our Political Parties in Canada. I've only gotten one back, and thats from Elizabeth May, the leader of the Green Party. Like wow.

Do you agree with whats she is saying in this message, because I do.


Thank you for your email concerning the renewal of the 2004 Health Accord.

Poll after poll clearly shows that Canadians place health-care at the top of their list of priorities and concerns. In response, the Harper Conservatives consistently tells us that they will ‘fix’ the health-care system. However, the announced $36 billion cut flies in the face of this claim and will significantly undermine our universal health-care system. In the face of stubbornly long wait times for diagnosis and surgery, over-crowded emergency rooms and severe shortages of family doctors, this administration is performing a grave disservice to all Canadians.

The Green Party fully supports the Canada Health Act (CHA) and all of its principles. We oppose any level of privatized, for-profit health care. The five criteria of the CHA guiding the provincial public health insurance plans, which we believe to be non-negotiable, are:

1. Public Administration – The public health insurance plan must be managed in a public, not-for-profit fashion.
2. Comprehensiveness – All residents must be covered for “medically necessary” health services.
3. Universality – All residents must be covered by the public insurance plan on uniform terms and conditions.
4. Portability – All residents must be covered by their public plan, wherever they are treated in Canada.
5. Accessibility – All residents must have access to insured health care services on uniform terms and conditions without direct or indirect financial charges, or discrimination based on age, health status or financial circumstances.

We believe that we can solve our health care problems. Spending money wisely is an important factor in creating an efficient healthcare system. Careful considerations must be taken with regards to spending, whether it is increasing trained professionals, funding for support staff or improving mandatory reporting of drug side effects. As we move into the future, I am dedicated to developing a health-care system that puts patient care at the centre of all provision considerations and all funding.

To learn more about our health-care position, I invite you to review my recent newsletter on the subject:

http://elizabethmaymp.ca/health

Thank you for taking the time to write and for expressing your concerns pertaining to our cherished health-care system.

Sincerely,



Elizabeth May, O.C., M.P.
Member of Parliament for Saanich-Gulf Islands
Leader of the Green Party of Canada

!x!dude!x!2
23-04-2014, 11:56 PM
Well congrats on getting a email back.

But I can't really agree unless I know what you said to her.

God
24-04-2014, 12:59 AM
I wrote an email about the Harper Gov't cutting 36 Billion $ from Health Care and also the reasons we need it and why we dont wana go towards privatization like America.

scottish
24-04-2014, 03:08 AM
No you didn't because that was quite clearly posted at the start of the month http://nbharbinger.wordpress.com/2014/04/07/may-canada-health-care-act/

God
24-04-2014, 12:34 PM
No you didn't because that was quite clearly posted at the start of the month http://nbharbinger.wordpress.com/2014/04/07/may-canada-health-care-act/


wow what a ****... I still agree with her.

-:Undertaker:-
24-04-2014, 12:45 PM
I wrote an email about the Harper Gov't cutting 36 Billion $ from Health Care and also the reasons we need it and why we dont wana go towards privatization like America.

All countries are moving towards privatised healthcare at different speeds. Why? Because it's better. The medical or healthcare service nowadays is so vast and so expensive that it's becoming impossible for governments to a) afford it & b) manage it.

The Green Party leader who wrote to you back is talking complete nonsense. Healthcare is not free and will never be free, nor will it ever be done for no profit. Would you spend years in training as a Doctor to make an average wage? No, you wouldn't. Are the drug companies going to invest HUGE sums of money into new drugs and treatments without a return on their investment? No. Investment and profit are what drive improvements in care, it's when you don't have them along with competition that you get worse care.

Here's the logic of the watermelons (green on the outside, but red inside) destroyed by Savage -



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfz1ewS9nzs

What is it about westerners nowadays who think the state can provide EVERYTHING and for free? It was tried and tested in Soviet Russia. It failed.

Zak
24-04-2014, 12:53 PM
No you didn't because that was quite clearly posted at the start of the month http://nbharbinger.wordpress.com/2014/04/07/may-canada-health-care-act/

haha that's epic

Kardan
24-04-2014, 01:06 PM
What did your email say Dragga;?

dbgtz
24-04-2014, 01:17 PM
All countries are moving towards privatised healthcare at different speeds. Why? Because it's better. The medical or healthcare service nowadays is so vast and so expensive that it's becoming impossible for governments to a) afford it & b) manage it.

The Green Party leader who wrote to you back is talking complete nonsense. Healthcare is not free and will never be free, nor will it ever be done for no profit. Would you spend years in training as a Doctor to make an average wage? No, you wouldn't. Are the drug companies going to invest HUGE sums of money into new drugs and treatments without a return on their investment? No. Investment and profit are what drive improvements in care, it's when you don't have them along with competition that you get worse care.

Here's the logic of the watermelons (green on the outside, but red inside) destroyed by Savage -



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfz1ewS9nzs

What is it about westerners nowadays who think the state can provide EVERYTHING and for free? It was tried and tested in Soviet Russia. It failed.

I would hardly call healthcare everything. All privatisation has done in the UK is make it shoddier and I fear the day ending up in a situation similar to the USA where health problems and exploited as much as can be, where people worry about the bill if they go get checked up by a doctor and find out it's something bad which will cost an arm and a leg (almost literally sometimes given the poor quality of care they can receive) with the stress possibly making them more ill than before.

Plus when people pay the same or even more in tax yet see public services get worse for the most part, it kind of pisses them off.

Rachel
24-04-2014, 01:30 PM
We are lucky for quebec not sure for the rest of Canada but we still have our medical insurance card who covers the hospital cost and when we pay for the medicine we can get reimbursed from the income tax at the moment. But that is once a year for income tax.

God
24-04-2014, 01:36 PM
All countries are moving towards privatised healthcare at different speeds. Why? Because it's better. The medical or healthcare service nowadays is so vast and so expensive that it's becoming impossible for governments to a) afford it & b) manage it.

The Green Party leader who wrote to you back is talking complete nonsense. Healthcare is not free and will never be free, nor will it ever be done for no profit. Would you spend years in training as a Doctor to make an average wage? No, you wouldn't. Are the drug companies going to invest HUGE sums of money into new drugs and treatments without a return on their investment? No. Investment and profit are what drive improvements in care, it's when you don't have them along with competition that you get worse care.

Here's the logic of the watermelons (green on the outside, but red inside) destroyed by Savage -



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfz1ewS9nzs

What is it about westerners nowadays who think the state can provide EVERYTHING and for free? It was tried and tested in Soviet Russia. It failed.


Well the Gov't can offord it. If they can offord to give tax breaks and subsidiaries to big Companies ontop of their ever so high profits, then they can offord to Help the Tax Payers. The 99% are who contribute to the system, yet its the 1% who get it all.

$60 Billion aprox was lost in revenue for the Canadian Gov't because of Tax break and Subsidiaries last year alone. $36 Billion in funding the Health Care per year is gonna be lost from the Federal Gov't. Now really, who is getting the **** end of the stick?

Canadians value our Health Care system and tbh it works. Yes wait times for non-emergency procedures can take a few months, but its worth it to be able to go to the Hospital, and know that your going to be getting the best care for you. That it doesn't matter how much money you have or who you are. You are going to get the proper care you need.

For example: A Man in the Usa who is middle class, just making it by. He was cutting some wood on his saw. The wood hits a knot and his hand slips. He looses his Index Finger and Ring finger. He goes to the Hospital and they tell him the price to put on his index finger is $60k and for his ring finger is $12k. He is left with a very hard choice, as its hard to put a value on your body. He decides to get just his ring finger. As he couldn't afford $60k. After the procedure he is left with a huge bill, lots of stress, and now a lot of debt he has to pay off, but with interest rates, he probably will be paying close to $30k by the end of it.


OR

Canada, a young man is working with a Band Saw, he ends up cutting all 4 of his fingers off. He goes to the Hospital, walks in and is looked after quickly. Doctors reattach all of his fingers. He walks out with no bills, no debt, and well taking care of.

Thanks to everyone paying money into it, he didn't have to worry. Freddy Douglas, the Father of Health Care in Canada, who unfortunately died awhile ago, was nominated and won the Greatest Canadian Challenge or w.e it was. For a few months Canadians could vote on who the Greatest Canadian was, and Freddy Douglas won. We Canadians Value our Health Care, and are very proud of it. Lord Harper aka Bituman wants to take it away from us.

Heath Care will never be free. We pay for it with our Taxes and collectively we pay for each and everyones care. Health care right now is actually run as none profit, yes the doctors nurses and other staff get paid, and they are paid fairly well. Many Doctors are paid around $100k per year. That is compared to other jobs which pay around 20-40k. I must remind you that many specialists are paid well above this and depending on what it is and your location, they could be bringing in up to 200k. That is a really good pay, and all Doctors live a luxurious lifestyle. Nurses get around $40k I believe and Paramedics get a nice $48k.

Canada has a really competitive scene. Drug companies fight to make the best product, for the least amount of money, to be able to win contracts. Trust me these are big contracts. For example, Hip Replacement parts. If you win that contract, guess what, your selling lots of Hip replacements arn't you? For everyone who needs a Hip Replacement, which is very common here in Canada when people reach their retirement age. You cannot say that Canadians are getting **** treatment, as we are getting it good.

Guess what, We the People should be getting what We want. We pay the Taxes, and We want Health Care. Yes our Taxes could be much cheaper if we didn't pay for Health Care, but its our duty to make sure that noone gets denied proper Health Care because they don't have the Financial capabilities.

I highly suggest you watch Sicko, but Micheal Moore. Trust me, it was worth it.

http://putlocker.bz/watch-sicko-online-free-putlocker.html

I honestly tear up every time I watch this part (59:55) till he goes to the hospital. About 3 minutes long.

Yawn
24-04-2014, 01:52 PM
"offord"

u lying about emailing this person

it being so obvious in that essay that u just posted wat u c+p and wat u wrote urself

http://i.minus.com/iy9wGdG4X9LmW.gif

God
24-04-2014, 01:57 PM
"offord"

u lying about emailing this person

it being so obvious in that essay that u just posted wat u c+p and wat u wrote urself

http://i.minus.com/iy9wGdG4X9LmW.gif

http://prntscr.com/3cz0qv

I wrote that all by myself...

But thanks, makes me feel good that my writing is up to standards for you to think it was:D

ARTPOP
24-04-2014, 02:43 PM
i cant stand politics!!!1111 2 fab 2 care

e5
24-04-2014, 04:58 PM
No you didn't because that was quite clearly posted at the start of the month http://nbharbinger.wordpress.com/2014/04/07/may-canada-health-care-act/


I wrote an email about the Harper Gov't cutting 36 Billion $ from Health Care and also the reasons we need it and why we dont wana go towards privatization like America.

Why would you quote something as something that was written privately to you when it wasn't lmao :L

Why dont you wanna go private?

God
24-04-2014, 05:22 PM
Why would you quote something as something that was written privately to you when it wasn't lmao :L

Why dont you wanna go private?

Because I thought it was.

Please read my reallly long post for the reasons. In a nutshell Public Health Care means everyone has the right to heath care and people arn't going to be stressed about money in their time of need.

Glen Coco
28-04-2014, 06:52 PM
it's hilarious that you lied about being emailed tho

God
28-04-2014, 09:19 PM
if u look at the screenie i posted thats what I got from her.

Empired
28-04-2014, 09:34 PM
if u look at the screenie i posted thats what I got from her.
If that's the case then it's just someone sat in an office copy + pasting the same response to lots of people

e5
28-04-2014, 11:25 PM
Because I thought it was.

Please read my reallly long post for the reasons. In a nutshell Public Health Care means everyone has the right to heath care and people arn't going to be stressed about money in their time of need.
But private is a choice (to who can afford it and a luxury for fast health care) the free health care still there, but the minority who will pay will get treated faster which I think is good and worth it if you can do it

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