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Plebings
26-04-2014, 10:36 AM
i think it should be taken into consideration setting limits for event prizes. it's brilliant that someone like smurfed can give out 100c worth of glass dividers as a prize for a 10 minute event, but think of all the stuff that could be put towards?

i understand it's not going to be popular to ask events staff to contribute towards big campaign prizes, but for example the big prize in HxEE is 250c, and more than 1/3 of that was just given away as a standard prize! big campaigns should be advertised as chances to win huge amounts of credits, sure it probably isn't best for the site if the only interest in it is the big jackpot but at the forefront of events should be the appeal to new users. the letters HxEE isn't going to get you this.

not only do these huge prizes for normal events make other worse off hosts look bad, they also pretty much make tokens and rep redundant for the majority of people. would you prefer 5 rep or over 50c worth of norms? i'd suggest a limit of 20c worth of furni as event prizes, with this being adjusted for special occasions (e.g. if you wanted to do a round to win a gb if the room gets 45 people, or predetermined prizes for weekly events)

this isn't a criticism for the hosts giving huge prizes, or the hosts giving small prizes, but just a suggestion to put your furni towards a better use if you're just using them as random event prizes.

put staff to better use, ask for more help from different people. the recent fansite maze thing made habbox look penniless, don't be too afraid to ask to borrow/use furni off others, even people outside of staff circles.

Samantha.
26-04-2014, 10:43 AM
I agree with this, I think it's better to give a lower prize and then that host is able to host more events and that is what we currently need! People don't usually expect a big prize anyway.

Jurv
26-04-2014, 10:54 AM
we do say that prizes should be like 2/3c and i think 99% of the time hosts stick to that. i don't think giving too much away is a major problem as it doesn't happen often and prizes have actually improved over the years. and idk if 250c is a lot or too little as i don't really know how things are priced up anymore but i would have said it's a perfectly good prize for a two week tournament

LiquidLuck.
26-04-2014, 10:58 AM
Better to give more than less tbh. I remember when an event organised would give you ONE tubmaster which at least back then was going for 0.5c if that much.

Inseriousity.
26-04-2014, 11:19 AM
The department has always relied on giving away what people can afford so if alex can afford to give away 100c during an event then that's fair enough. Personally I'd like to see steps taken towards a fully-funded events department so that hosts don't have to rely on what they can afford but the recent changes to the Habbo Way makes this impossible atm.

As for borrowing furni this is always done lol. I think there should be a better record kept of who has leant their furni so that it can be given back to them straight away rather than waiting forever to get it back, would encourage more people to lend their stuff then.

LiquidLuck.
26-04-2014, 11:49 AM
As for borrowing furni this is always done lol. I think there should be a better record kept of who has leant their furni so that it can be given back to them straight away rather than waiting forever to get it back, would encourage more people to lend their stuff then.

This ^. I know that in this case it was also my fault because I left and totally forgot, but I should have been reminded, there should be an exact record or who owns the furniture lend for events or HxHD.

GoldenMerc
26-04-2014, 11:50 AM
or all event organisers could do what jade used to do and buy furni every month...

Lewis
26-04-2014, 11:55 AM
I introduced a limit of two good norms or two bronze coins. Alternatively, a rare as good or better. It's a rule for it to be at least that, I'm not sure if it still is.

Kardan
26-04-2014, 12:09 PM
or all event organisers could do what jade used to do and buy furni every month...

Ah, is she the staff member that got fired for buying from the black market?

GoldenMerc
26-04-2014, 12:10 PM
Ah, is she the staff member that got fired for buying from the black market?

She left, After she got AGM. she used to buy £££'s worth a month :P

Kardan
26-04-2014, 12:11 PM
She left, After she got AGM. she used to buy £££'s worth a month :P

Oh. I still don't know who got fired for doing that then.

GoldenMerc
26-04-2014, 12:12 PM
Oh. I still don't know who got fired for doing that then.

think Bolt660; did

Kardan
26-04-2014, 12:15 PM
think Bolt660; did

Nah, he got fired for leaking information.

LiquidLuck.
26-04-2014, 12:19 PM
I introduced a limit of two good norms or two bronze coins. Alternatively, a rare as good or better. It's a rule for it to be at least that, I'm not sure if it still is.

Yeah I remember there was a rule about not giving less than a rare, but that was written ages ago and no one follows it anymore haha.

Samantha.
26-04-2014, 01:25 PM
The minimum we say to give is 2c or equivalent although most EOs tend to give out more if they can.

James
26-04-2014, 01:43 PM
I introduced a limit of two good norms or two bronze coins. Alternatively, a rare as good or better. It's a rule for it to be at least that, I'm not sure if it still is.
This was a minimum limit, not a maximum though. I think thsi thread is saying to introduce a maximum

scottish
26-04-2014, 01:54 PM
Nah, he got fired for leaking information.

one of the times before he was fired for buying furni off Ross though

and I don't see the issue with this, if an EO wants to give away 100c they shouldn't be forced to contribute it to something else, they can give it away. If they want to give away the bare minimum then that's up to them.

Saying you can't give away more than 10c or something is stupid lol.

Kardan
26-04-2014, 01:57 PM
one of the times before he was fired for buying furni off Ross though

and I don't see the issue with this, if an EO wants to give away 100c they shouldn't be forced to contribute it to something else, they can give it away. If they want to give away the bare minimum then that's up to them.

Saying you can't give away more than 10c or something is stupid lol.

Was he? I'm sure Bolt said himself a few days back he never got fired for it. Who knows :P

Brad
26-04-2014, 01:58 PM
I have never had anyone complain at my events as to what I give them, and I give pretty much 2c worth In norms.
I think sometimes when we see these types of threads, I get the sense that there was some jealousy at one point during a game when someone shouted as to what they received as prize. I am not pointing fingers, but I know that greed is something that will tear friendships apart. We, as the habbox community should be helping each other out. Large or small. I really don't see that much anymore, which is sad and discouraging.

A maximum wouldn't be a bad thing though. As most said, it would encourage more games.

Jurv
26-04-2014, 02:00 PM
or all event organisers could do what jade used to do and buy furni every month...

no way am i spending real money on furni u weirdo

scottish
26-04-2014, 02:03 PM
I have never had anyone complain at my events as to what I give them, and I give pretty much 2c worth In norms.
I think sometimes when we see these types of threads, I get the sense that there was some jealousy at one point during a game when someone shouted as to what they received as prize. I am not pointing fingers, but I know that greed is something that will tear friendships apart. We, as the habbox community should be helping each other out. Large or small. I really don't see that much anymore, which is sad and discouraging.

A maximum wouldn't be a bad thing though. As most said, it would encourage more games.

I'd completely disagree

If I joined and worth say 10,000 creds and we have another EO who's worth maybe 100 (most of which they spend on room and give crap prizes). I sure as hell wouldn't be up for helping them out with giving prizes.

It's each EO's responsibility to have the required items/coins to give out, not the others to help them. If they can't afford it, resign.

Kardan
26-04-2014, 02:04 PM
I think imposing a maximum limit on event prizes is a bad idea anyway. The furni that belong to an EO belong to them, and they should be allowed to do what they like with them. Plus, at the end of the day, your events are going to be more popular if you're giving out a 10c prize each time, rather than a 1c prize.

Storking
26-04-2014, 02:16 PM
This thread has gone in the wrong direction, I think the suggestion was to put the furni towards bigger projects and tournament prizes to make them more desirable to win; which I agree with.

Regarding prize limits, I don't agree with the upper limit because if an event organiser is hired and his "Habbo Worth" is 50T then he could afford to give out 20c sacks or even gold bars as prizes. Why should he not be allowed to do this? As long as the host is able to manage their own items then there is no problem. If the host is struggling or spending real money on credits then leave the role.

Kardan
26-04-2014, 02:57 PM
This thread has gone in the wrong direction, I think the suggestion was to put the furni towards bigger projects and tournament prizes to make them more desirable to win; which I agree with.

Regarding prize limits, I don't agree with the upper limit because if an event organiser is hired and his "Habbo Worth" is 50T then he could afford to give out 20c sacks or even gold bars as prizes. Why should he not be allowed to do this? As long as the host is able to manage their own items then there is no problem. If the host is struggling or spending real money on credits then leave the role.

But that means you'll essentially be forcing the rich EOs to contribute their own furniture to things they might not want to contribute to.

Jurv
26-04-2014, 03:07 PM
it's down to general management to fund large scale tournaments, it's nothing to do with the events department

Kyle
26-04-2014, 05:31 PM
But that means you'll essentially be forcing the rich EOs to contribute their own furniture to things they might not want to contribute to.
Why would they not be willing to contribute to a larger prize that would bring more people to habbox and in turn to their events?

250c for a 2 week event in the current market is frankly absolutely terrible, especially considering how many hours one would need to dedicate in order to achieve it.

Kardan
26-04-2014, 05:33 PM
Why would they not be willing to contribute to a larger prize that would bring more people to habbox and in turn to their events?

250c for a 2 week event in the current market is frankly absolutely terrible, especially considering how many hours one would need to dedicate in order to achieve it.

Why would one EO have to give their furniture for a prize fund for a whole competition when other EOs won't have to just because they're poor? Management provide the prizes.

Kyle
26-04-2014, 05:37 PM
Why would one EO have to give their furniture for a prize fund for a whole competition when other EOs won't have to just because they're poor? Management provide the prizes.
Not saying they should have to, just that they might well want to if they see that the current prize isn't at all desirable.

:odey:
26-04-2014, 05:57 PM
I think 250c is plenty enough for a 2 week tournament.

If you win the tournament you obviously won several events which also you gained prizes from whether you chose furni/rep/tokens whatever, you still received that +250c for winning.

As for all the previous posts, the minimum is still 2c, either 2 bronze coins or furni equivalent of 2c, there's no maximum limit. I don't think there should be a limit either, as long as EO's meet the minimum prize requirement, there should be no complaints over what you receive.

As for poor/rich EO's, they know what they're letting themselves in for when they join the dept. They know its currently up to them to fund the prizes, but I try and have as many in dept competitions as I can physically think of to help EO's regain some of what they've given away etc. IE. a 50c prize for the EO who hosted the most events during HxEE, Beat the Peak, and hopefully soon a new tailor made reward/target system suited to each EO.

The majority of the EO's help each other out wherever they can. If its lending furni or whatever they do help out a lot. That's up to them if they want to or not, there's nothing stopping or making them do it.

As for the richer EO's cutting back their everyday prizes and supporting a bigger tournament, I disagree with also. Its their personal choice what they do with their furniture and how they give it away.

Lewis
26-04-2014, 07:37 PM
This was a minimum limit, not a maximum though. I think thsi thread is saying to introduce a maximum

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