BaW Group 2

[zombies]

- Jendro (remaining team leader)
- Hawaii5.o
- Daltron
- matt2205
- bored_1
- choi

new members for builders at work, well done :)

[lemons]

yes congrats Daltron; !

[Plebings]

congrats! especially daltron since he's on here. had a look through some of them.

choi has got some nice rooms, and seems like he builds out of leisure.
matt2205 only saw a wired game which was kinda cool but nothing to write home about.
bored_1 i couldn't find any rooms with furni in, bar one which looked like a junk room.
daltron i remember his habbox game room which was nice, had a couple of other cute (though small) rooms.
hawaii5.o i couldn't find any rooms, but apparently he used to own the saw, which if i remember was well done.

[lRhyss]

no offence but theres about 3 people in there that can't build for ****

[Kyle]

never seen bored_1 or daltron build a single room, looks like they have been added based on recommendations alone.

BAW slowly morphing into another flop elitist circlejerk like RBI

good luck

[lRhyss]

never seen bored_1 or daltron build a single room, looks like they have been added based on recommendations alone.

BAW slowly morphing into another flop elitist circlejerk like RBI

good luck

Daltron;

http://uploadir.com/u/wbt4vbrw

this is a "zen" room

then only decent room he has is a game room, but then it's just a one theme symmetrical room, the symmetry is the only reason it looks decent.

None are no where near as good as what you'd expect for a BAW member. They should be elite, not "oh that rooms small and cute"

[Kyle]

Daltron;

http://uploadir.com/u/wbt4vbrw

this is a "zen" room

then only decent room he has is a game room, but then it's just a one theme symmetrical room, the symmetry is the only reason it looks decent.
http://puu.sh/8TSBP.png
http://puu.sh/8TSDY.png

hmm yes seems symmetry is his signature.

nothing special whatsoever. all small and not ideal at all for mass consumption as BAW is supposed to be. smaller rooms are much easier to make look good.

see my basement room, everybody recommend me for BAW
http://puu.sh/8TSKV.png
actually now that there are steps i can edit it

here's bored_1's best room
http://puu.sh/8TSZz.png

honestly, it's like fansites, guardians and any other special group. the loudest voices and the longest tongues get preferential treatment and are allowed to produce things that others could do better.

wonder how much of a say jendro got in this. doesn't seem like a lot.
Jendro; are u happy with these mongs tarnishing your name

[Daltron]

For all those criticising me that is fine, you are entitled to do so as I have in the past with season 1 BAW members.

During RBI I was contributing a lot until the elitist grouping became apparent and staff recognised my efforts originally. I was also recommended by several people as someone easy to work with, generally positive and staff were happy to approach me and give me this chance.

My rooms are small because I am not rich, obviously I will be building bigger rooms under the strict guidance of Jendro who I expect will be teaching me a thing or two anyway.

I look forward to being criticised more as I understand a lot of people are not happy with me being picked and that is fine. I hope I can do the Habbox community justice.

[Kyle]

why is it that users are being cherry picked from the RBI team when this BAW was supposed to be moving away from that. we're going in circles, let some new blood have a go!

not being rich is fine and I know the feeling but the problem here is that how are other users that haven't been part of building groups in the past supposed to get into this group. it's weird. idk

not doubting that people will rise to the challenge but this group will most certainly be spearheaded by the one or two users who actually do build regularly.

[Storking]

yeah this is true. lot's of people can be creative and yet not have a lot of furni to show it off but good luck to all builders



My rooms are small because I am not rich, obviously I will be building bigger rooms .

[lRhyss]

why is it that users are being cherry picked from the RBI team when this BAW was supposed to be moving away from that. we're going in circles, let some new blood have a go!

it's another ******* favouritism thing, like all other habbo ********, if you rim staff, you're in

BAW should be one team, not changing, with the elite of the elite.

you cant let **** builders in when it's official things at stake.

[Storking]

if someone is crap with room designs when they're given stuff to make then surely staff will see this and replace them

[lRhyss]

if someone is crap with room designs when they're given stuff to make then surely staff will see this and replace them
they wont though

[Kyle]

it's another ******* favouritism thing, like all other habbo ********, if you rim staff, you're in

BAW should be one team, not changing, with the elite of the elite.

you cant let **** builders in when it's official things at stake.
BAW is just a smaller rebranded RBI. None of the stuff is official sulake stuff as far as I can tell and all the BAW .com team do is create seasonal events (mostly telephrases yawn) that last a few days. The bundles are created by the spanish and the official public rooms are created by the dutch.


if someone is crap with room designs when they're given stuff to make then surely staff will see this and replace them
because it's a team effort the crap ones will just do something and the better ones will fix it. nobody will be removed.

[Hidden]

Good luck to them, won't judge until the rooms come out.

Good luck matt?

[HABBZ-0]

So wait BaW members are voted for by other BaW members? idgi :S I've seen some v.nice rooms from Jendro, Hawaii and Daltron too (i don't know the others). Not everyone is able to keep a room once they build it for a specific purpose or whatever and have to sell furni first before working on another room, so i don't think you can judge just based on the rooms they currently have.

[Plebings]

baw members are picked out by jendro i presumed, though what daltron has said makes it sound like staff may have pushed for him to be part of the group.
it'll be hard to validate each member as these are all group projects, i personally didn't have a problem with the rooms built previous anyway as i'm not a great builder. what i will be looking out for is bad maze design, be it wired flaws, game design, creativity or little things like short queues.

though we are not entitled to it, i think what a lot of us want is to see the reason behind the picks, be it room screenshots or ideas provided. sadly a lot of user created stuff on habbo is all done behind the scenes now, it pisses people like me off who have no clue (or maybe a bit of dignity) of how to go about getting staff approved projects. i'd have liked to see jendro go on forums like this and on the client advertising for proof of what we are capable of.

however maybe i'm going about it the wrong way, and that opportunist people like me shouldn't be the ones to help. people that spend their time on habbo creating rooms for fun should be picked out first, there is no good way to go about it.

[Hidden]

as far as i'm aware, jendro is allowed to submit people who he thinks is capable of being a member and then possibly staff do the rest.

[Storking]

well I didnt know a habbo player decided on the rest of the team

what a load of oh-youre-my-friend-and-i-like-you-bollocks

[kovsky]

well done guys!

[jorsian]

Even people who haven't built quality rooms in the past still have the ability to do so. The nature of Builder''s Club enables people to express themselves. Obviously someone who has to buy furni with credits is 9/10 times going to design a room inferior to someone with BC, who is able to purchase unlimited furni at no cost. I won't judge until I see the finished products.

[JaiHo]

Well done to those who made it into the group :] I would have loved it! Mabye another time :p

[Jendro]

Hey!

First of all, I'd like to welcome the new team :) Although it's completely different from the previous team (given that I'm not familiar with some of the new members yet), I'm sure we'll be doing fine! Because the previous team set a high standard, we'll have to aim higher! Nonetheless, this does not mean that we have to work in an elitist way. Perhaps it would be nice to have some of our projects more out in the open, so that everyone can give feedback - with, or without the 'BAW' badge.

And indeed, I can give mere recommendations after I get a preliminary list from staff, but it's staff who eventually decides.

Thanks guys! And feel free to give more thoughts about the BAW project! It's far from perfect, and I'm very open-minded :) Let's hope that those who are in control of the project are as well. (For now I know we can't make the groups bigger either, we've already tried with the previous team. Nonetheless, external people are always welcome to help out!)

Jendro

[JaiHo]

Disappointing that the majority of members don't seem to have any rooms currently that you can visit to see how they build! guess we will just have to wait and see!

[Okeanos]

Even people who haven't built quality rooms in the past still have the ability to do so. The nature of Builder''s Club enables people to express themselves. Obviously someone who has to buy furni with credits is 9/10 times going to design a room inferior to someone with BC, who is able to purchase unlimited furni at no cost. I won't judge until I see the finished products.

i disagree. frankly, if you dont make rooms then you dont like building. if you dont like building, you really shouldn't be in BAW. i hope the new team works out and it isn't a repeat of the old team (where certain members did nothing at all).

[JaiHo]

i disagree. frankly, if you dont make rooms then you dont like building. if you dont like building, you really shouldn't be in BAW. i hope the new team works out and it isn't a repeat of the old team (where certain members did nothing at all).

I'm kinda like this if you liked building you would have rooms.. I suppose maybe if you had no furni you wouldn't have rooms but then how do you get picked?

[Kyle]

I'm kinda like this if you liked building you would have rooms.. I suppose maybe if you had no furni you wouldn't have rooms but then how do you get picked?
this is exactly the point

builder's club has been out for months now and many people have become familiar with its tools. these members don't build regularly so aren't familiar with newer furni ranges. I'm not saying they shouldn't be in it - I'm all for seeing what people can do - I just think that there are others who are more passionate about room building that should get access first.

[Scotland]

Welcome guys! Look forward to seeing so great rooms, once again. :)

[BAW-Pivot]

Guys i would like to put it out there. Who would you like to see in as a BaW member?

All i see are negative comments about the new ppl that have picked.

Just curious to see your thoughts.

Also what would you say would be a fair way to pick new members?

[TheBoredom]

I think i got BAW because of my limited involvement with RBI. I think i made RBI for my old Help Desk, it was pretty good, but not that popular. It got me into RBI. IDK how else i got accepted, i didn't know anyone from the previous team really, so none of them would have suggested me. I never asked nor applied for it and the first time i spoke to KitchenNinjette was when she emailed me to offer me a spot on the team. I am looking forward to using the features BC has to offer to show off it's possibilities, and see what we can make out of it. I do have a lot of empty rooms, but they haven't always been empty! sorry, but i am poor so i have sold all my rooms for creds for HC. I hope my contributions will speak for themselves. Going to be a good season for BAW!

-Bored_1

[lRhyss]

Guys i would like to put it out there. Who would you like to see in as a BaW member?

All i see are negative comments about the new ppl that have picked.

Just curious to see your thoughts.

Also what would you say would be a fair way to pick new members?

change the requirements?

You should have to have at least 2-3 LARGE builds that can be assessed for consistency of good builds or even have won 1-2 room building competitions. There is no way to tell good builders from bad if you look at small rooms, all you need to do is stick with symmetry and matching furniture to make a nice small room... No skill what-so-ever.

And before people come in with "well we cant afford to make build builds" - Well, that's unlucky then isn't it? You obviously don't have a passion for building like BaW members should. If you have a passion for it you could easily spare £10 or so to get a few credits or even builders club? It's not that much money for something you like doing, so theres not really an excuse.

[Plebings]

thanks for shedding some light on how people are picked though, i don't think a lot of us realised that the majority of the decision is done by staff. shame because i still think the staff's view of the hotel is very limited, and people like jendro are more likely to know/look around the hotel/fansites to find good examples of room making.

[Kyle]

I think i got BAW because of my limited involvement with RBI. I think i made RBI for my old Help Desk, it was pretty good, but not that popular. It got me into RBI. IDK how else i got accepted, i didn't know anyone from the previous team really, so none of them would have suggested me. I never asked nor applied for it and the first time i spoke to KitchenNinjette was when she emailed me to offer me a spot on the team. I am looking forward to using the features BC has to offer to show off it's possibilities, and see what we can make out of it. I do have a lot of empty rooms, but they haven't always been empty! sorry, but i am poor so i have sold all my rooms for creds for HC. I hope my contributions will speak for themselves. Going to be a good season for BAW!

-Bored_1
can you post screenshots of some

[Storking]

Guys i would like to put it out there. Who would you like to see in as a BaW member?

@Okeanos (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=35609)

[Kyle]

Guys i would like to put it out there. Who would you like to see in as a BaW member?

All i see are negative comments about the new ppl that have picked.

Just curious to see your thoughts.

Also what would you say would be a fair way to pick new members?
Not just friends of friends or previous RBI members who were seemingly chosen based on what they can say rather than what they can do (see bored_1 mentioning that he was only chosen cos he had a helpdesk... lol).

BaW needs individuals that are capable of working independently on projects and able to show some initiative. Perhaps an application process like RBI would be more appropriate... but then that's just going in circles... but at least then we will have people who do actually build regularly and know what the community wants and likes.

[Okeanos]

BaW needs individuals that are capable of working independently on projects and able to show some initiative.

totally agree. if you can't make a good room on your own, i don't see how you can work well in a group. instead of picking seemingly random people, Kitchen should ask people to submit rooms to show their skill. it seems crazy to me to pick people for a room building group without first having looked at the rooms they are able to make.


@Okeanos (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=35609)

Huh?

[JaiHo]

Guys i would like to put it out there. Who would you like to see in as a BaW member?

All i see are negative comments about the new ppl that have picked.

Just curious to see your thoughts.

Also what would you say would be a fair way to pick new members?

I just think there should be some sort of application process whereby people say "Hey I'm interested! here are a few screenies of rooms I have made" rather than people like "TheBoredom" who seem unsure of how they were even picked because he never applied or showed any interest in it. Also why is it staff picking? I think since they have intrusted Jendro to be like the "lead builder" he should get to pick his team and then if he picks someone staff utterly hate then they can veto him.

[Kyle]

Huh?
"who would you like to see as a BAW member"
"okeanos"

downy

[Okeanos]

"who would you like to see as a BAW member"
"okeanos"

downy

oh. why is Pivot asking this question? since Kitchen didn't listen to Jendro's recommendations, i dont see why she'd listen to Pivot's.

[Kyle]

oh. why is Pivot asking this question? since Kitchen didn't listen to Jendro's recommendations, i dont see why she'd listen to Pivot's.
no idea but I'm actually laughing at the fact that he signed up with the username "BAW-Pivot"
is he some kind of leader
is he even in baw anymore XD

[Okeanos]

no idea but I'm actually laughing at the fact that he signed up with the username "BAW-Pivot"
is he some kind of leader
is he even in baw anymore XD

no he isn't. the old baw crew seem to be staying on in some sort of 'advisory' capacity. i find it very ironic considering i was an 'adviser' in the eurovision event and they repeatability told me that being an 'adviser' meant nothing and i should go away - the word seems to have taken on new meaning now its them doing the advising - funny that!

[Michael]

Well done to group two, especially Daltron and matt2205.

Just wondering though, does the new group of builders replace the old group because from what I've seen it looks like the old group are still clinging on to the rank - which seems pretty unfair to the second group of people.

[Daltron]

Well done to group two, especially Daltron and matt2205.

Just wondering though, does the new group of builders replace the old group because from what I've seen it looks like the old group are still clinging on to the rank - which seems pretty unfair to the second group of people.

I won't lie it's very intimidating for me having the original group there still pretty much doing everything and interacting on the forum etc. :/


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[JaiHo]

I won't lie it's very intimidating for me having the original group there still pretty much doing everything and interacting on the forum etc. :/


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I don't get that? I thought the group was limited to six months in order to give new people a chance? Why are the old people hanging about?

[TheBoredom]

can you post screenshots of some

Haha i've never wished i had taken some more in my life than i do right now... i will try to get on my old PC and see if maybe i have one, but i've never really intentionally stopped to take screens of my rooms, so i don't know if i will have any, honestly. sorry :(


(see bored_1 mentioning that he was only chosen cos he had a helpdesk... lol).

Well, not quite... again, i did have some participation in RBI as well, however limited. The quality and style of my help desk was what got me into RBI, and i really do wish i had some screenshots to show, as it wasn't your typical "Help desk." it was more of a chill room. I get the sense people think i was some how chosen based on favoritism, which simply isn't the case, i don't interact with staff almost ever, and i don't think most staff care for me very much as i am so opinionated and outspoken. I legitimately think my work spoke for itself, which is why i wish i had not picked it up, or wish i had taken pictures...


I just think there should be some sort of application process whereby people say "Hey I'm interested! here are a few screenies of rooms I have made" rather than people like "TheBoredom" who seem unsure of how they were even picked because he never applied or showed any interest in it. Also why is it staff picking? I think since they have intrusted Jendro to be like the "lead builder" he should get to pick his team and then if he picks someone staff utterly hate then they can veto him.

see above... but i also agree it should be the previous team who has input on the next team, as well as jendro (or whoever is leader at the time) and that there should be an application/interview process to it. I guess i shouldn't say i have no idea how i made the team, what i mean is i don't know who suggested me nor who chose me. i have a good idea why i made the team, and wish i hadn't destroyed all my rooms to sell the furni... i may throw something together quickly with BC for people to pop in and see my style... check my rooms in the next week or so...


no idea but I'm actually laughing at the fact that he signed up with the username "BAW-Pivot"
is he some kind of leader
is he even in baw anymore XD

He's not a leader, he isn't in BaW, but we're just getting started and in fact haven't really done anything but talk, and some of us have met, so Pivot and Undercover have been visiting with us, and answering questions - mostly for me. I know that I appreciate their help, and look forward to having their guidance - it is good to have people who have been through it before to guide and direct us. Also, KitchenNinjette has told us that we are allowed to have outside help, so if we want Undercover and Pivot to work with us, or give input, we can ask. They have no official title nor position on the team, but they are definitely welcomed and appreciated - at least by me!


Well done to group two, especially Daltron and matt2205.

Just wondering though, does the new group of builders replace the old group because from what I've seen it looks like the old group are still clinging on to the rank - which seems pretty unfair to the second group of people.

See above. They are not clinging to their rank. Think of it this way: they put a lot of hard work and effort into BaW, and now they have to hand the reigns to someone else, so of course they want to make sure they answer questions, and make sure we are okay. Also they have been kind enough to let us learn from what they have already found from season 1 by allowing us to see the season 1 forums and see what to expect. we are also able to ask for suggestions, and help. That being said, we haven't even started much yet (except Hawaii, that man is a machine at building!) so there really hasn't been anything for them to help with.. .so what are you even talking about...?

Edit:
I will try to throw something together for people to look at, check my rooms in the next few days, not sure what just yet, but we'll see. This is gonna be a good season, even though we really don't have too much to work with (june is a boring month) but hoping to see some fun stuff come from this group!

[Okeanos]

See above. They are not clinging to their rank. Think of it this way: they put a lot of hard work and effort into BaW, and now they have to hand the reigns to someone else, so of course they want to make sure they answer questions, and make sure we are okay. Also they have been kind enough to let us learn from what they have already found from season 1 by allowing us to see the season 1 forums and see what to expect. we are also able to ask for suggestions, and help. That being said, we haven't even started much yet (except Hawaii, that man is a machine at building!) so there really hasn't been anything for them to help with.. .so what are you even talking about...?

I don't disagree with a lot of what you've said and I'm not going to begrudge you or anyone else their place in BAW... however I think making a forum name with a "BAW-" prefix is clinging to the role and frankly it looks a bit desperate. If you want their help then by all means take it but you can also ask non-BAW people for help too (Hawaii helped a lot in BAW rooms for example).

[Kyle]

can somebody outline what being in baw ACTUALLY entails? what are you building rooms for exactly

[TheBoredom]

I don't disagree with a lot of what you've said and I'm not going to begrudge you or anyone else their place in BAW... however I think making a forum name with a "BAW-" prefix is clinging to the role and frankly it looks a bit desperate. If you want their help then by all means take it but you can also ask non-BAW people for help too (Hawaii helped a lot in BAW rooms for example).

I already intend to ask a couple people outside of BaW to help on some projects! :)


can somebody outline what being in baw ACTUALLY entails? what are you building rooms for exactly

We basically make rooms for events and promotions. Like we have to choose from a few of the holidays next month (mostly international stuff) and make rooms to go with those themes which may then get used as public rooms by habbo. we may also be asked to make stuff for youtube, and do events, or judge competitions. at least that is what we've been told. we may end up mostly just making rooms for holidays and promotions, but who knows what the future may bring!

[Sandoo]

As someone's who's been an active room builder for years now and really is passionate about room building, I'm disappointed that there isn't a more clear application process for something like BaW. I've actively participated in nearly every room competition that's been hosted going back to the Canadian hotel and have won a good number of them. I challenge myself with new types of builds all the time and am constantly playing around with furni and I feel like that's the attitude you should have to be on BaW. Simply having one "help desk" that's "more of a chill room" isn't enough to show how passionate a builder you are. You should just build for the sake of building, and have rooms and history to show that.

I feel like Jendro should be in charge of the picks, with staff simply recommending, rather than the opposite. Applications would really be the fairest way of dealing with picks in the future. We should have to send in screenshots and links to our builds as well as display that we've been previously recognized for our building ability, through comps or otherwise (i.e. picks of the pack, staff reviews, etc). I could list plenty of people more deserving than some on the current and previous team ( kovsky and Okeanos are two that I think of in this thread). BaW has the potential to be a really great way of rotating through and showcasing passionate and dedicated builders in a clear and fair process rather than a shady program that doesn't have any clear structure or selection process.

[Daltron]

I don't get that? I thought the group was limited to six months in order to give new people a chance? Why are the old people hanging about?

I'm not sure but yesterday I logged on to take part in building for an event and the room was done. It had a group too so I checked out the members and it was like most of BAW1 and one person from BAW2 so I just had the impression they had worked together.

I am not sure, I don't know why I am there at this exact moment. Hopefully over the weekend I can take part in projects with my fellow BAW2 members.

[kovsky]

I feel like Jendro should be in charge of the picks, with staff simply recommending, rather than the opposite. Applications would really be the fairest way of dealing with picks in the future. We should have to send in screenshots and links to our builds as well as display that we've been previously recognized for our building ability, through comps or otherwise (i.e. picks of the pack, staff reviews, etc). I could list plenty of people more deserving than some on the current and previous team ( @kovsky (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=44688) and @Okeanos (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=35609) are two that I think of in this thread). BaW has the potential to be a really great way of rotating through and showcasing passionate and dedicated builders in a clear and fair process rather than a shady program that doesn't have any clear structure or selection process.


Jendro added me as a friend to ask me if I would have to time to be in BAW if he "hypothetically" recommended me. I told him that I wouldn't join because I don't work well with other people (sadly true) and that I didn't like the fact BAW members aren't allowed to participate in room competitions.

I do agree that the process for applying should be more clear and open to all though. Hopefully you and Okeanos get it next season.

[Hawaii5.O]

I'm not sure but yesterday I logged on to take part in building for an event and the room was done. It had a group too so I checked out the members and it was like most of BAW1 and one person from BAW2 so I just had the impression they had worked together.

I am not sure, I don't know why I am there at this exact moment. Hopefully over the weekend I can take part in projects with my fellow BAW2 members.

Actually, our first project was due on the 23rd of May so we had under 24 hours to complete the room. I was online with Jendro so we decided to start building ASAP, I designed most of the room myself then asked Bored_1 (when he came online) to come in to help/give any feed back or make changes in the room. Matt2205 did all the wiring for the room (he did a fantastic job) and he also helped design a badge for the event. Pivot and Undercover. did NOT do any building in the room, all they did was give us feedback, moved a few things around that were out of place and help stack the wired.

They won't be helping us build this season (unless we ask), they are just there to guide us and teach us things they learnt from the last season. I myself helped the last BAW season in a few projects by dropping wired or designing a few things, so others are more than welcome to help us as well. I don't want to look like I was trying to individually design to room and take complete control, but since we had such a short deadline the room needed to get done ASAP, and I got Matt2205 and Bored_1 to help as much as they could when they were online. You're in the team because for a good reason, it doesn't matter if you missed this project as there will be many others to come which will have longer deadlines, so time won't be an issue.

[Kyle]

if you need an expert amazing builder to help i am here for u guys x

[sex]

me too xx

[Hidden]

What's the point of making a group of a limited amount of people if you're just going to ask other people to help? Clearly shows you're an incapable bunch to do the job and defeats the purpose of the group entirely.

[Hawaii5.O]

What's the point of making a group of a limited amount of people if you're just going to ask other people to help? Clearly shows you're an incapable bunch to do the job and defeats the purpose of the group entirely.

First of all you're assuming we are calling every one to help us design, that isn't the case. We had less than 24 hours to build a room for World Turtle Day, mind you we were assigned this project within the first few hours of joining BAW 2. We haven't even met as a group to discuss things, and it was literally just me and Matt2205 online - the others had commitments in real life and weren't expected to drop every thing in their lives to come and build a room on Habbo. We called Pivot and Undercover. to give feedback on the room, they didn't design or build anything in the room.

Secondly, the only reason we'd call others to help is because Builders Club has limited in furni, and between the group we don't own a wide range of different furniture to assist in our building. Allowing others with different furniture can help our designs as the furniture we need won't always be in Builders Club. That being said, it will only be occasionally and we'd get the previous members to drop some furniture that might be useful for us, we'd still be building but they'd help supply.

[Storking]

I would've thought owning a wide range of non-BC furni would be a requirement before joining BAW

[Hawaii5.O]

I would've thought owning a wide range of non-BC furni would be a requirement before joining BAW

Well, Kitchen said BaW is all about promoting BC and showing what can be done with it - the only problem is, Builders Club doesn't have a wide range of furniture. I'm not sure what the requirements are in joining BaW, but it doesn't matter if you don't have any furniture.

[Hidden]

Well shouldn't you be using builder club furni to promote it rather than normal furni?

[Storking]

exactly, if that is the aim then stick to BC only!

[Kyle]

I've been approached by 3 separate members/affiliates of BAW being told to stop judging the group and its members because I "know nothing" about it/them. Well I know all that I need to. I know that 2/3 members of the current group have't built or even helped with building anything for the community since RBI, I know that they don't have any form of showcase of their talents and I know that nobody - them included! - knows why they were chosen over others more capable.

If the purpose of BAW is to showcase builder's club then I don't understand why people who've never used it before are being allowed in. I don't understand why people with no furni at all are being added if a wide range for small touches is required. I just don't quite get the logic.

I've already said it but I feel I need to reiterate so people don't think that I've got some kind of grudge or vendetta against them which is what normally happens - I don't doubt that the BAW team will do a fine job, I just think that others were more appropriate choices this time around. If any other members of BAW want to come into my rooms and slate them then please remember that I, like others, don't keep my rooms up for long/haven't been in bc ages/have helped with other rooms rather than only creating my own. But thanks for having a look, means a lot.

My own NON BIASED suggestions for the next batch would be users familiar with BC, users that build more with BC than with normal furni, that have displayed their building prowess in the past, that are consistent with their builds and style and that are still building whenever opportunities arise. An application process WOULD be ideal but it's not going to happen by the sounds of things so I suggest the current team start taking notice in room comps and not just allowing staff to dip into RBI like a tombola and pull out randoms.

Well done for the first event. I know habbo are clutching at straws to bring up things like 'turtle day' so that BAW actually have something to do, and you guys really did a great job with it. It's a great concept and easy to get the hang of and the badge is beautiful. Congrats to both matts and hawaii who seem to have put in the most work this time around, hope to see some of the other members' unique style shining through next time.

Get pushing for more furni ranges in BC.

[Hawaii5.O]

Well shouldn't you be using builder club furni to promote it rather than normal furni?



exactly, if that is the aim then stick to BC only!


Some times that's not possible, for example, last season they had to design an office for the Agency Fair but there isn't any executive in BC so how can you just use builders club? Builders Club is useful for the blocks, other than that all it has is the cheap furniture you find in 1-2c shops and the current campaign furniture. Also, only one person in the group is allowed to drop BC furni, so it kind of limits us in that perspective as well.

I don't know why you're acting like a smart ass, obviously we're allowed to use other furni than what's in BC and we won't be asking for "help" every project. Anyways the room we built for the Turtle day is like 90% BC, excluding the wired. So what's your problem? We are using BC. My point is, it's useful to have furniture OUTSIDE of BC as well.

[Hawaii5.O]

My own NON BIASED suggestions for the next batch would be users familiar with BC, users that build more with BC than with normal furni, that have displayed their building prowess in the past, that are consistent with their builds and style and that are still building whenever opportunities arise. An application process WOULD be ideal but it's not going to happen by the sounds of things so I suggest the current team start taking notice in room comps and not just allowing staff to dip into RBI like a tombola and pull out randoms.

The staff selection is based around work in RBI, other peoples recommendations, and room competitions. An application process would be nice but then people who don't even build will try to apply just to be in it. I think the leader should have a greater say in who will be in their group, as they'll be working with them for 2 months.
Also, there does need to be more furniture in BC and we're trying to push for it but it's the whole "don't want to ruin the economy" debate. There's some things I don't agree with either but at the end of the day staff aren't just selecting randoms, they are selecting those who worked well in RBI and have shown themselves capable through room competitions. The next season will be interesting since the leader is changing, there will be a lot of debate on who will get selected for the role.

[Sandoo]

The staff selection is based around work in RBI, other peoples recommendations, and room competitions. An application process would be nice but then people who don't even build will try to apply just to be in it. I think the leader should have a greater say in who will be in their group, as they'll be working with them for 2 months.
Also, there does need to be more furniture in BC and we're trying to push for it but it's the whole "don't want to ruin the economy" debate. There's some things I don't agree with either but at the end of the day staff aren't just selecting randoms, they are selecting those who worked well in RBI and have shown themselves capable through room competitions. The next season will be interesting since the leader is changing, there will be a lot of debate on who will get selected for the role.

Why should RBI have any influence on this? RBI was proven to have failed largely due to it being filled with preferential treatment by staff. If staff wanted to avoid that then they should make BaW completely fair, applications are the way to do that. Who cares if people apply who haven't built before, that's the whole point of having applications... so you can screen out those who are applying for the fun of it. Your argument just doesn't make sense, of course completely open and apparent applications are the best and most fair way for people to be hired. There's a reason application processes are used almost ubiquitously for jobs. Having staff select without any sort of clear criteria or way of getting your name out is why nepotism and bias was an issue in RBI and continues to be an issue in BaW. People who are the most deserving and dedicated should all have a fair chance at being recognized. Those who are hired should not be surprised or confused as to why they received the position, nor should the community.

[Hidden]

Some times that's not possible, for example, last season they had to design an office for the Agency Fair but there isn't any executive in BC so how can you just use builders club? Builders Club is useful for the blocks, other than that all it has is the cheap furniture you find in 1-2c shops and the current campaign furniture. Also, only one person in the group is allowed to drop BC furni, so it kind of limits us in that perspective as well.

I don't know why you're acting like a smart ass, obviously we're allowed to use other furni than what's in BC and we won't be asking for "help" every project. Anyways the room we built for the Turtle day is like 90% BC, excluding the wired. So what's your problem? We are using BC. My point is, it's useful to have furniture OUTSIDE of BC as well.

All offices aren't made from executive, you're meant to use your imagination and be creative. You said you were to promote BC which is why we responded with the obvious so stop being a ****. All builders should have furni to build with so your point is invalid.

[Okeanos]

they are selecting those who worked well in RBI.

that's odd because i remember most of the BAW people who were in RBI did very little.

[Hawaii5.O]

All offices aren't made from executive, you're meant to use your imagination and be creative. You said you were to promote BC which is why we responded with the obvious so stop being a ****. All builders should have furni to build with so your point is invalid.

You're the one saying use imagination and be creative when the majority of rooms that came out of your events had rollers, one way gates and coloured tiles. I didn't mean that the whole room has to be executive, but the main design for agencies involves executive so it's good to keep with the theme; for example if we were to build a room that reflects casinos and I used Pura and lodge from BC then I don't think that would work. We're building a HQ for BaW which will be an office and we're not using executive, but going to do our own creative design.

Yes, we are going to promote BC by showing what can be achieved with it, and that's what we've done with our first project - you're exaggerating on my point. If my point is invalid, then why do staff not care if people have furniture or not upon joining BaW? All I'm saying is there's tonnes of furni ranges out there and if we only used BC furni we'd be limited and constantly producing the same styled rooms, which I'm sure you're quite familiar with yourself.

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that's odd because i remember most of the BAW people who were in RBI did very little.

I never paid attention to RBI so I wouldn't know.

[Kyle]

pmsl will hawaii just rekt ya

Just make sure the BAW office isn't just a rebranded twilight house like the RBI one was lol

Does anybody know when the new BC blocks and other ranges are due to be released?

[Plebings]

really like the turtle room, the game is okay but seeing as you only had 1 day to come up with it you've done a good job.

[Yawn]

ppl are so unreasonable lol

they will moan about literally anything and u cant win either way its pointless

[Okeanos]

Just make sure the BAW office isn't just a rebranded twilight house like the RBI one was lol

the BAW main room that i saw (not sure if they're still using it) was just a direct copy of rakker's building site room. lol

[Kyle]

the BAW main room that i saw (not sure if they're still using it) was just a direct copy of rakker's building site room. lol
Well Rakker is kind of the man behind the spawn of BAW so at least it makes more sense than a nondescript house in the trees.

[Hidden]

You're the one saying use imagination and be creative when the majority of rooms that came out of your events had rollers, one way gates and coloured tiles. I didn't mean that the whole room has to be executive, but the main design for agencies involves executive so it's good to keep with the theme; for example if we were to build a room that reflects casinos and I used Pura and lodge from BC then I don't think that would work. We're building a HQ for BaW which will be an office and we're not using executive, but going to do our own creative design.

Yes, we are going to promote BC by showing what can be achieved with it, and that's what we've done with our first project - you're exaggerating on my point. If my point is invalid, then why do staff not care if people have furniture or not upon joining BaW? All I'm saying is there's tonnes of furni ranges out there and if we only used BC furni we'd be limited and constantly producing the same styled rooms, which I'm sure you're quite familiar with yourself.



I have no idea what 'events' you're talking about considering I've hosted a raceway which had no rollers or colour tiles with like 5 one way gates? Which was over a year a go then 1 fansite event that I made which was colour tiles and gates and an unofficial snake maze with rollers obviously. I barely ever make room anymore because it's completely pointless so you must be confused by the person you're attempting to insult lol.

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the BAW main room that i saw (not sure if they're still using it) was just a direct copy of rakker's building site room. lol

If it's not the EXACT same, Pivot probably made it he uses Rakkers designs for most of his rooms to pretend he built them and adds lot's of rares.

[TheBoredom]

since being friendly and politically correct about it doesn't work, time to be blunt:

Quit being butthurt you didn't get picked. There is no favoritism here. We were chosen because staff felt we were what they needed on the team - plain and simple. stop trying to dig for an underlying reason that isn't there, you are only making yourself look bitter and pathetic. Saying that BaW should only be allowed to use BC is just plain moronic. Why don't you go make something using NOTHING but BC, then come back when you realize how HORRIBLE it looks? As far as who does or does not help with projects: WHY DO YOU CARE?! We have been told by STAFF that we can have outside help. I don't need your permission or approval, so get over yourself. An application process is stupid, it doesn't show any involvement in the community. Being able to build nice rooms is only ONE aspect of BaW, you have to also be a part of the community and be involved in events and activities. I know when you guys say "people don't belong on the team, they don't even build" you guys are talking about me. I may not have rooms built right now, but in the 12+ years i've been playing i have had my share of rooms that were obviously good enough to catch people's attention enough that i was suggested. I've also participated on various small RBI projects, and helped people with other rooms that weren't for competition or anything, but just for their room or for fun. I don't enter competitions because the prizes always suck and it's not worth my time and effort (yes, I DO have a life outside of Habbo, some of you should consider getting one....)

If you don't like the BaW team, then don't participate in our events, and don't visit our rooms; it's that simple. If you are mad you didn't make the team, just remember BaW JUST got started, and there will be more opportunities. Continue building, maybe try offering some assistance to current BaW members, talk to staff (don't harass them about it though.) and see what happens. It is not an elite group, it is not favoritism, it's a list of people who were in RBI, who have been active, and who were recommended. THAT IS A LOT OF PEOPLE. And for all we know, they may expand outside of RBI in later seasons, i think they are just using that as a starting point for reference - people they KNOW will do well because they've already been involved before.

This is beyond out of hand and approaching pathetic. We get it, some people think they have some reason to be upset by the people who were chosen - good for you. The choice has been made. Deal with it. Grow up. You don't even know what we have in store yet, and you haven't even seen what we can do yet, so just shut the hell up and wait. don't pass judgement until we have a TRUE chance for ALL of us to shine (not just 24 hours for a few people to throw something together...)

Subo said it better than i could have:


ppl are so unreasonable lol

they will moan about literally anything and u cant win either way its pointless

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[MKR&*42]

Crying at hidden criticising a room builder's group after his shambolic viking entry.

[Kyle]

since being friendly and politically correct about it doesn't work, time to be blunt:

Quit being butthurt you didn't get picked. There is no favoritism here. We were chosen because staff felt we were what they needed on the team - plain and simple. stop trying to dig for an underlying reason that isn't there, you are only making yourself look bitter and pathetic. Saying that BaW should only be allowed to use BC is just plain moronic. Why don't you go make something using NOTHING but BC, then come back when you realize how HORRIBLE it looks? As far as who does or does not help with projects: WHY DO YOU CARE?! We have been told by STAFF that we can have outside help. I don't need your permission or approval, so get over yourself. An application process is stupid, it doesn't show any involvement in the community. Being able to build nice rooms is only ONE aspect of BaW, you have to also be a part of the community and be involved in events and activities. I know when you guys say "people don't belong on the team, they don't even build" you guys are talking about me. I may not have rooms built right now, but in the 12+ years i've been playing i have had my share of rooms that were obviously good enough to catch people's attention enough that i was suggested. I've also participated on various small RBI projects, and helped people with other rooms that weren't for competition or anything, but just for their room or for fun. I don't enter competitions because the prizes always suck and it's not worth my time and effort (yes, I DO have a life outside of Habbo, some of you should consider getting one....)

If you don't like the BaW team, then don't participate in our events, and don't visit our rooms; it's that simple. If you are mad you didn't make the team, just remember BaW JUST got started, and there will be more opportunities. Continue building, maybe try offering some assistance to current BaW members, talk to staff (don't harass them about it though.) and see what happens. It is not an elite group, it is not favoritism, it's a list of people who were in RBI, who have been active, and who were recommended. THAT IS A LOT OF PEOPLE. And for all we know, they may expand outside of RBI in later seasons, i think they are just using that as a starting point for reference - people they KNOW will do well because they've already been involved before.

This is beyond out of hand and approaching pathetic. We get it, some people think they have some reason to be upset by the people who were chosen - good for you. The choice has been made. Deal with it. Grow up. You don't even know what we have in store yet, and you haven't even seen what we can do yet, so just shut the hell up and wait. don't pass judgement until we have a TRUE chance for ALL of us to shine (not just 24 hours for a few people to throw something together...)

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You might want to aim that at someone in particular rather than giving a blanket response of "don't be bitter... grow up... deal with it" because not a lot of people actually wish to be members of the BAW team, they are just making observations and suggestions for improvement in the future. Frankly nick your post is rather rude, full of insults to people who are offering genuine feedback, and it doesn't really contain anything fruitful.

An application process isn't ridiculous at all. The suggested application would not simply be users talking about their past in as persuasive a manner as possible (something you are all too familiar with from your RBI application I am sure) -- it would require users to actually demonstrate their value, to prove that they have built successfully before and to show that they are still very passionate about building. For the most part BAW has done this manually but a legitimate system that forces staff to take notice is better than allowing good builders to fall through the cracks in favour of big talkers.

Your point about belonging on the team is ridiculous. If a user doesn't build then they should not be in a team dedicated to showcasing building. It's as simple as that really. Yes, rooms do come off as lacklustre when they contain only BC items, but that's why the BAW team should contain users that have participated in quests and events over the years and accrued a good range of furniture. The turtle room is a perfect example because its beauty is pretty much fully reliant on both an intimate knowledge of wired and jendro's summer quest items - two things that a couple of the members ( :rolleyes: ) could not have offered.

Good luck with the rest of the season. Like I said, I'm sure other builders will have a chance to display their talents in upcoming events, it's just a shame that a lot of you guys have come to habbox on the offensive when really we are all looking forward to seeing the BAW season through with engaging and beautiful events for all.

[Sandoo]

What an embarrassing response, TheBoredom, definitely not the way you should represent yourself or BAW as it comes off as defensive and irrational mainly because your argument doesn't make a lot of sense. Arguing against applications is completely illogical as applications would rid BAW of many of the problems it presents. For one, there would be less reason to complain about not being picked by those who want to join the team. By having everyone go through the same process it won't just be staff picking from a limited "list of people who were in RBI" but instead allowing the entirety of the community, which you've emphasized so much in your argument, to have a fair chance at participation.

Secondly, applications could also stem to a series of articles introducing BAW members at the start of a season after applications are closed and a team is chosen. Having a "BAW team showcase" of each team would use elements submitted from applications (i.e. room screenshots, room competition wins the user is most proud of, favourite furni line, a building tip or trick, etc.). By having these elements in an application it would allow for the community to see how and why each user has been chosen. As a result there would be fewer complaints because many of the accusations of favouritism and nepotism would be proven invalid. The community could see the dedication and creativity a team member has, which could be helpful in cases where a user doesn't keep rooms up or unlocked.

Finally, I just don't see the logic in not having applications in terms of staff workload. Proper application processes can streamline the amount of time and effort staff would have to put in to their selections. They wouldn't have to comb through a selection of users, try and piece together their talent level by seeing random rooms the users have or may not be especially proud of. If a BAW team member recommends a user for the next season, staff would easily be able to pull up their application and see exactly what the user is capable of rather than listening to a biased or quick recommendation from a user.

As it stands, BAW, like RBI, is a flawed system, and by being apart of the first couple rounds, current team members should be looking at the community's feedback as insightful and beneficial, rather than attacks. You guys should be coming on forums and building off our ideas instead of getting defensive and completely rejecting them. I for one don't care who's on the team, as long as I can see why they've made it on the team. That's why we need applications and more publicity and showcases of the BAW team. If you won't take the community's advice about applications and revamping the selection process, then at least take my advice right now and act a little more level-headed; you aren't above the community by being on BAW, rather you simply have a chance at bettering a facet of it that right now is flawed. Accept BAW as a fluid concept and work to offer staff feedback on how to develop and change it to benefit the experience of users interested in this aspect of Habbo.

[TheBoredom]

What an embarrassing response, TheBoredom, definitely not the way you should represent yourself or BAW as it comes off as defensive and irrational mainly because your argument doesn't make a lot of sense. Arguing against applications is completely illogical as applications would rid BAW of many of the problems it presents. For one, there would be less reason to complain about not being picked by those who want to join the team. By having everyone go through the same process it won't just be staff picking from a limited "list of people who were in RBI" but instead allowing the entirety of the community, which you've emphasized so much in your argument, to have a fair chance at participation.

Secondly, applications could also stem to a series of articles introducing BAW members at the start of a season after applications are closed and a team is chosen. Having a "BAW team showcase" of each team would use elements submitted from applications (i.e. room screenshots, room competition wins the user is most proud of, favourite furni line, a building tip or trick, etc.). By having these elements in an application it would allow for the community to see how and why each user has been chosen. As a result there would be fewer complaints because many of the accusations of favouritism and nepotism would be proven invalid. The community could see the dedication and creativity a team member has, which could be helpful in cases where a user doesn't keep rooms up or unlocked.

Finally, I just don't see the logic in not having applications in terms of staff workload. Proper application processes can streamline the amount of time and effort staff would have to put in to their selections. They wouldn't have to comb through a selection of users, try and piece together their talent level by seeing random rooms the users have or may not be especially proud of. If a BAW team member recommends a user for the next season, staff would easily be able to pull up their application and see exactly what the user is capable of rather than listening to a biased or quick recommendation from a user.

As it stands, BAW, like RBI, is a flawed system, and by being apart of the first couple rounds, current team members should be looking at the community's feedback as insightful and beneficial, rather than attacks. You guys should be coming on forums and building off our ideas instead of getting defensive and completely rejecting them. I for one don't care who's on the team, as long as I can see why they've made it on the team. That's why we need applications and more publicity and showcases of the BAW team. If you won't take the community's advice about applications and revamping the selection process, then at least take my advice right now and act a little more level-headed; you aren't above the community by being on BAW, rather you simply have a chance at bettering a facet of it that right now is flawed. Accept BAW as a fluid concept and work to offer staff feedback on how to develop and change it to benefit the experience of users interested in this aspect of Habbo.

Unlike Kyle's rude attack, i feel this well-thought and calmly-spoken feedback is worth a response:

I apologize if i come off as defensive or attacking, i'm not trying to but i do feel the need to put down some false-ideas people have mentioned like staff favoritism and such. Try to see things from my perspective, i have read a lot of negativity in this thread so it is hard not to focus on that. also had a bit of a rough day anyways so was responding in anger already - my bad...

You are right though, we should absolutely take suggestions into consideration, and after you fully explaining it a little better i can say that yes, i do see your side of things and how applications (if done right) could be beneficial.

I want to make it clear i don't see myself as "above" anyone, and especially not for my membership in BaW and i am sorry if it has seemed that way - it's not the case.

Again, i apologize if i came off as being attacking (reading back on what i said now, i can see how i was) that was not my intent. I can only hope that going forward people will be more apt to post constructive criticism like Sandoo has.

[Daltron]

We are currently building a new HQ for the current BAW team, to answer the questions above. It will be original and not a (direct if anything) copy of any pre-existing room.

As for all this petty argument we get it guys. The application system is flawed and you are disappointed because you believe your skills are better than those in BAW. It's early days but I think you're about to see some great stuff and I understand a lot of people generally look for anything to criticise so we welcome it.

I have put forth an idea that we have a small desk to take suggestions to improve design and BAW in general with a private thread where we post ideas in client.

A few of you are very mad that there is not an application process that is clear so try me. Feel free to PM me what you think would be an appropriate application process for BAW3 and I will happily pass it on for consideration. I don't know what else you guys want.

Happy days

Edit: spelling

[Kyle]

@TheBoredom (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=120824); my posts here are as constructive as I am capable of making them. I offered a suggestion of an application and it was rejected. I said that users that don't build should not be in a group for builders and that's being ignored. Despite the concerns I have expressed I've tried not to come off as outright rude and am eagerly waiting for you to prove your worth within the current team. To say that my posts aren't worthy of response is an attack in itself.

As for being "butthurt", "disappointed", "jealous" or "mad" -- I think that's just Okeanos. I originally aired my grievances because I felt that others (myself NOT included) would be better suited to the position and others could have joined at a later date when they were fully prepared for the task. I don't want to be in the BAW group any more than anybody else does.

@Sandoo (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=114441);'s suggestion of a proper showcase is something I am completely agreed on. Putting a personality and style to a name will help to bring BAW members back down to the level of normal users and perhaps allow them to justify their choice.

[thms]

fight fight fight

Edited by Derrener (Forum Moderator): Please don't post pointlessly, thanks!

[Hawaii5.O]

I don't have any rooms at all to show case, once I enter a competition I pick the room up. One of my winning room entries : http://www.habbo.com/articles/3145-catwalk-room-competition-winners/in/archive (4th last image), I haven't been entering competitions lately - but I have some rooms on HabboCreation.com as well.

For the community I've made various of different games, mainly auto-runs including Saw, Castle Terror and Jungle Escape. I also made my own game called Base Wars which was quite popular until it got trashed. I've designed games for Got Game and Spotlight, and I've designed some games for staff including the Summer Vs Winter quest for WaltzMatilda. I've also done smaller side games like tic-tac-toe with Azasol and a Death Run styled game (similar to G.C.magic's).

Generally, I enjoy creating new games and wiring them rather than building a room in general (this doesn't mean I dislike building/designing rooms).

So that's my worth in being part of the BaW team, as you can see wired games are more of my forte and I'm excited to design NEW games for the community through BaW.

[Kyle]

@Hawaii5.O (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=121123); This is all stuff that should be properly recognised in an application. Yourself and matt were good choices in my book because I had heard of both of you and your rooms. Others I hadn't.

Before this becomes even more circular I feel we should all agree that there are flaws in choosing but we get what we're given and must offer our support and encouragement. Tired of being told I'm butthurt or whatever, lol.

since I have had a laugh at bored_1 and daltron's rooms I feel it's only fair to offer myself up for the same treatment

here's my fav worst room I ever made

http://i49.tinypic.com/mjl7a1.jpg

[Plebings]

ugh boredom, sorry it got so far that you felt it was necessary for the rant but you came off looking worse. as sandoo has said most of us are criticising the application system rather than the team. let's face it staff are not normal habbos, they don't log on to hang out on the hotel, so to hear that picks were pretty much decided by staff is disheartening because people like jendro who might explore the hotel (and be more driven to perhaps set up his own application process) and have a deeper knowledge of room builders don't get much of a say.

of course another problem is that we actually had to dig these application steps out ourselves, bring transparency to the system!

[JaiHo]

We are currently building a new HQ for the current BAW team, to answer the questions above. It will be original and not a (direct if anything) copy of any pre-existing room.

As for all this petty argument we get it guys. The application system is flawed and you are disappointed because you believe your skills are better than those in BAW. It's early days but I think you're about to see some great stuff and I understand a lot of people generally look for anything to criticise so we welcome it.

I have put forth an idea that we have a small desk to take suggestions to improve design and BAW in general with a private thread where we post ideas in client.

A few of you are very mad that there is not an application process that is clear so try me. Feel free to PM me what you think would be an appropriate application process for BAW3 and I will happily pass it on for consideration. I don't know what else you guys want.

Happy days

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I like you. You seem polite and sensible rep+

[Okeanos]

As for being "butthurt", "disappointed", "jealous" or "mad" -- I think that's just Okeanos.

erm... i'm disappointed but i think i've been quite mellow about the new BAW team. i've not been rude and i haven't said certain people shouldn't be in the team... why are you dragging my name into your argument!?

[Accipiter]

Wow i recreate Wobble Squabble, a hotel view & multiple public rooms and dont even get an offer :/

[iPictures]

Here is what I list them as :

- Jendro (remaining team leader) : Best Builder Along With Rakker On My List " Leader "
- Hawaii5.o : Wiring Master For The Team - " Wirer "
- Daltron : Person Who Gives Inspiration - " Inspirationer "
- matt2205 : Builder & Wirer - " Builder & Wirer "
- bored_1 : Person Who Looks At Builds And Reflects On His Own And Does Great While Building His Rooms - " Reflecter "
- choi : One of the builders " Builder "

[Rx.]

Here is what I list them as :

- Jendro (remaining team leader) : Best Builder Along With Rakker On My List " Leader "
- Hawaii5.o : Wiring Master For The Team - " Wirer "
- Daltron : Person Who Gives Inspiration - " Inspirationer "
- matt2205 : Builder & Wirer - " Builder & Wirer "
- bored_1 : Person Who Looks At Builds And Reflects On His Own And Does Great While Building His Rooms - " Reflecter "
- choi : One of the builders " Builder "

LMAO...
Choi & matt2205: Suck up. Tryin to get that efame.
bored_1: Sorry who are you?
Daltron: Idec about him. Hes just there to look pretty I guess.

Jendro and Hawaii5.o are the only ones I'm glad that are in BAW
BUT Jendro needs to stop picking friends. I heard his other suggestions and he picked the stupidest people.
Where do these people even apply for these things? I know staff take part in some of it but damn...

[Kyle]

LMAO...
Choi & matt2205: Suck up. Tryin to get that efame.
bored_1: Sorry who are you?
Daltron: Idec about him. Hes just there to look pretty I guess.

Jendro and Hawaii5.o are the only ones I'm glad that are in BAW
BUT Jendro needs to stop picking friends. I heard his other suggestions and he picked the stupidest people.
Where do these people even apply for these things? I know staff take part in some of it but damn...
jendro is friends with room builders. it's not about picking friends it's about suggesting those that he thinks are good builders. he doesn't really have much say in the matter considering the current group were not all based on his suggestions

[Hawaii5.O]

LMAO...
Choi & matt2205: Suck up. Tryin to get that efame.
bored_1: Sorry who are you?
Daltron: Idec about him. Hes just there to look pretty I guess.

Jendro and Hawaii5.o are the only ones I'm glad that are in BAW
BUT Jendro needs to stop picking friends. I heard his other suggestions and he picked the stupidest people.
Where do these people even apply for these things? I know staff take part in some of it but damn...

Thanks for your support - but I don't think you can judge the other members based on how you perceive them without actually knowing them personally. I think we have a good team regardless, we've had some ups and downs already but we've gotten one event done, and have another one ready to go. I do believe the whole system needs reconstruction, especially in the 'recruitment' process.

Jendro did not suggest any one in this group apart from myself, he isn't picking friends - he's SUGGESTING who he thinks will be great for the team. Staff have obviously made the final decision, and they haven't picked 'the stupidest people'.

[Dingbat]

Like Daltron said, the criticism that was given is fair, and I did criticize the First team. But it would be nice to see your opinions on the games and rooms made. I've also got to agree with Hawaii5.O about judging the team members without knowing them...


why is it that users are being cherry picked from the RBI team when this BAW was supposed to be moving away from that. we're going in circles, let some new blood have a go!

I guess this counts for most of the current team but I wasn't part of the RBI, it will be nice to get a few rooms noticed by the community.


though we are not entitled to it, i think what a lot of us want is to see the reason behind the picks, be it room screenshots or ideas provided.

A way to get your rooms seen and noticed by staff would be to enter the room designing competitions,this includes pick of the pack, thats how I got mine seen. If you enter often they will soon realise there is potention in you and maybe you could see yourself in BAW Team #3!

Here's a couple of screenies of the rooms which I've entered into competitions and achieved top 5/1st
http://habboo-a.akamaihd.net/c_images/article_images_us/matt2205_catwalk.png
https://habbo-stories-content.s3.amazonaws.com/diy/easter-island-room-competition/hhus-1397663573780-matt2205-EasterIslandRoomComp.png?Expires=1401735600&AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAITFLNT36CEODHTRA&Signature=D/KVuA25F58HxHLcp%2BKG91B4E%2Bo%3D

Good luck in getting picked for team #3!! Remember to get your work seen.

[enzuken123]

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https://i.imgur.com/fea3AgF.png

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