Recent Events Stats

[Kardan]

Because Laura did my staff structure at the start of May, I didn't remember to do my events held stats, so here they are, admittedly very late now.

These are the number of events hosted in the last month (That's 21st Apr - 21st May). These dates are probably better actually, since :odey: came into manage the department just before then, so it's a good measure of his performance I guess.

Calculated are the number of events hosted by each events organisers. Current trialists are not included. Events from people that have left the department are not included. Events from people outside the events department are not included. If the event organiser joined part way through the month, I've extrapolated their number of events hosted as if they were there for the whole month, so numbers can be compared directly.

First of all, here are the last stats (1st Mar - 1st Apr) for comparison, under the old manager Mk,:

Cassiieee: 21
mdport.: 20 (Senior)
Bikini: 19
:odey:: 19
WaterRapids: 16
Dragga: 15
zebbadi: 12
Mk,: 12 (Manager)
Chug!: 11

And here are the new stats (21st Apr - 21st May) under the new manager, :odey::

mdport.: 20 (Senior)
Paige.: 17
Samantha.: 16 (Senior)
Smurfed-: 16
Cassiieee: 14
Bolt660: 10
Americanozz: 9
Jbate94: 8
MikeyFusion: 8
Viba: 7
:odey:: 7 (Manager)
Yuxin: 5
IzzyUhh: 4

Worth noting that keeping staff seems to be an issue. Only 3 staff from the 1st of April are still staff now. More staff in the department, but it seems with more staff, you get more people doing less work.

[Lewis]

There seems to be more events hosted with less staff in total and less events hosted with more staff in total, which is weird. But maybe that's because one of them is going from the 1st - 1st and the other 22nd - 22nd, people might tend to host a bunch at the end of the actual month, etc. Not sure!

Nice to see more staff though :).

[Kardan]

There seems to be more events hosted with less staff in total and less events hosted with more staff in total, which is weird. But maybe that's because one of them is going from the 1st - 1st and the other 22nd - 22nd, people might tend to host a bunch at the end of the actual month, etc. Not sure!

Nice to see more staff though :).

If I get some time I might set up some sort of moving average that shows average number of events over time - it would solve the issue of when the data is measured I guess.

[Sian]

seriously? I thought there were like none being done because I've only ever seen/heard of about one a day.

It's good it's not that bad though. Let's hope staff retention approves. Why no-one stay?

[Reality]

I must admit I do think that this is mainly because of the increase in staff that Odey tried to bring back.

[Kyle]

well this isn't actually representative is it

bikini didnt resign that long ago

[Kardan]

well this isn't actually representative is it

bikini didnt resign that long ago

Not representative if you want total number of events, no - but for that you can just count the number of events that take place, which the event manager (or at least the previous one) already does. This is more stats on staff performance really.

[Kyle]

Not representative if you want total number of events, no - but for that you can just count the number of events that take place, which the event manager (or at least the previous one) already does. This is more stats on staff performance really.
but by putting "under mk" "under odey" it makes it look like they are doing less when in fact it could be more. put the stats of people who resigned during that time too!

[Inseriousity.]

I introduced a weekly leaderboard in HxL and events (HxHD already had one, I stole it from them lol) when I was AGM precisely to cover this. I think it helps and it also shows if managers are pulling their weight. If the minimum is still 2 a week (it might've gone up to 3 actually), that means there are 4-6 staff not covering even the minimum including the manager!

[Storking]

CASSIIEEE deserves to be senior events org

[Americanozz]

Quite a few people have been posted away this month due to exams which may be the reason for less events being held(:

[Lewis]

I introduced a weekly leaderboard in HxL and events (HxHD already had one, I stole it from them lol) when I was AGM precisely to cover this. I think it helps and it also shows if managers are pulling their weight. If the minimum is still 2 a week (it might've gone up to 3 actually), that means there are 4-6 staff not covering even the minimum including the manager!

The minimum goes weekly from the first day of the month to the end. So :odey: and other staff probably have met their minimums, it's just that they're shown from the 21st of the month to the next 21st.

And yeah, minimum is 3 a week.

[Chippiewill]

Start of month to end sounds like you could get a pretty piss poor distribution of events.

[Inseriousity.]

The minimum goes weekly from the first day of the month to the end. So :odey: and other staff probably have met their minimums, it's just that they're shown from the 21st of the month to the next 21st.

And yeah, minimum is 3 a week.

Just had a look at events page, last event he hosted was 7th. exactly 3 weeks ago today. guess not!

[Lewis]

Just had a look at events page, last event he hosted was 7th. exactly 3 weeks ago today. guess not!

Oh. Well that might hopefully be the case for some anyway :P.

[IzzyUhh]

I think it's mainly because there is a lot of people posted away at the moment, due to personal things and also because of exams. That is the reason I've done only a little amount of events. When I first joined I tried to do above the minimum but within the amount of free time I actually had.

[FlyingJesus]

Events on for 141 of 732 hours, approx 1 every 5 hours or ~5 a day for a staff of 13 people...

[Gina]

as you can tell i put a lot of time into events (a)

i will start hosting soon its okay ahhh

[kitten]

CASSIIEEE deserves to be senior events org
no

but really i think odey is doing well as a manager but the lack of events is just disappointing, i know exams are going on but there's like 1 a day or there are events at silly hours that obviously international people attend but the majority of people at habbox are from the uk

[IzzyUhh]

Hopefully with some exams ending, possibly more staff joining & SUMMER OFFICIALLY BEGINNING!!!
More events will be in place and will be fun and woop
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[FlyingJesus]

Sept - Oct: "People have just gone back to school you can't expect them to be on all the time"
Nov - Jan: "It's Christmas people are away and can't be on"
Feb - May: "People have exams that's why they're posted away"
June - Aug: "It's summer people don't want to be online"

[Kardan]

The minimum goes weekly from the first day of the month to the end. So :odey: and other staff probably have met their minimums, it's just that they're shown from the 21st of the month to the next 21st.

And yeah, minimum is 3 a week.

If the minimum is 3 a week and you've only done 7 events from 21st Apr to 21st May (which is over 5 weeks), you've not met the minimum. Theoretically, let's say someone did 50 events on the 20th of Apr, and I changed the dates from 20th Apr to 20th May, then they would be way over the minimum, but in reality, they would have met the minimum with the week that included the 20th of Apr - but still failed to have met the minimum in the weeks after.

Basically, the picking of the dates can have an impact on the total number of events, but it won't make anyone reach minimums they didn't reach before.

[Lewis]

If the minimum is 3 a week and you've only done 7 events from 21st Apr to 21st May (which is over 5 weeks), you've not met the minimum. Theoretically, let's say someone did 50 events on the 20th of Apr, and I changed the dates from 20th Apr to 20th May, then they would be way over the minimum, but in reality, they would have met the minimum with the week that included the 20th of Apr - but still failed to have met the minimum in the weeks after.

Basically, the picking of the dates can have an impact on the total number of events, but it won't make anyone reach minimums they didn't reach before.

Oh yeah, oops. My bad :P.

[Matt]

Sept - Oct: "People have just gone back to school you can't expect them to be on all the time"
Nov - Jan: "It's Christmas people are away and can't be on"
Feb - May: "People have exams that's why they're posted away"
June - Aug: "It's summer people don't want to be online"

I know you're probably wanting someone to comment along the lines of "So when do they actually host events" seeing as you've just summed up a whole year and to be fair this is true (or for GMT people anyway). Other commitments do get in the way and I don't really understand what you want us to do about it (apart from spend relentless hours on the computer and make more of an effort to find more staff). Unfortunately, this is what happens when people go to school and they have to get their priorities right when it comes to school work and habbox work. We host when we get time and due to lack of staff numbers yeah it can be quite hard to get more than 1 event per day. During tournaments we try our best to make sure the calender has a bit more going on but as you've stated, all year round there are different things going on and it's up to the individual on how they prioritise their commitments.

We currently have 7 staff members posted away, 2 of which are Seniors and that does have an impact on the number of events hosted. We did have more on that list but they have returned within the last week or so. In the month of April we had 179 Events in total being hosted from the Events Department (these exclude events hosted from HxL staff in the HxL Events Takeover) and in March we had 160. So we have gone up and we did get a large number of people returning all at the same time so that has probably helped. As far as this month is concerned, we have had more events being hosted at the start of May and then the Exam periods started so yeah, they will have obviously gone down from here.

I do think Events has improved considerably since I joined in December and that there is still room for improvement, however as mentioned before, Summer is coming up in England and we will hopefully see a lot more events in June (as 6 out of the 7 people currently posted away return within the last week of May)

[Kardan]

Another question to anyone that knows: Is posting away department specific? E.g, you can post away for events but still do competitions?

[Jordan]

Another question to anyone that knows: Is posting away department specific? E.g, you can post away for events but still do competitions?

I think if you want to post away then you post away in all departments. Doesn't make sense really if you're able to do one job but not the other. Should resign if you can't.

[wordofwisdom]

Cassiieee is the one thats bringing the events back to life to be honest

[Mr-Trainor]

Another question to anyone that knows: Is posting away department specific? E.g, you can post away for events but still do competitions?
I'd say you could probably go limited in one department and not in another, if that one takes up a lot more time. But I highly doubt anyone would get away with going away in one department but then still coming online every day and working for another department :P.

[Matt]

Cassiieee is the one thats bringing the events back to life to be honest

Thanks for that lol. We are trying. Yes Cassie is doing a great job, she hosts a lot of events and her efforts haven't gone unnoticed, but I think it's the team effort that's making an impact.

[Kyle]

a lot of events staff are young so the exam excuse is silly. why post away if you are doing gcses, just cram thenight before and u are grand!

also if cassie is going above and beyond for the events then people should not begrudge her of a senior position cos of the 'dae think cassie is a rude witchh with an iq of 6' circlejerk.

not that events even needs another senior

odey is doing well to get more staff and like i already said this op is not even representative of true figures mostly

[Kardan]

I'd say you could probably go limited in one department and not in another, if that one takes up a lot more time. But I highly doubt anyone would get away with going away in one department but then still coming online every day and working for another department :P.

Does that mean there's a 'Staff away thread' in the Habbox Staff subforum, and not one in each individual department subforum?

[GoldenMerc]

CASSIIEEE deserves to be senior events org
no way

Cassiieee is the one thats bringing the events back to life to be honest
hardly, cassie is rude in events all the time...
Its not about the quantity, its about the quality.

Thanks for that lol. We are trying. Yes Cassie is doing a great job, she hosts a lot of events and her efforts haven't gone unnoticed, but I think it's the team effort that's making an impact.
there's no I in team ;l

[Brad]

Does that mean there's a 'Staff away thread' in the Habbox Staff subforum, and not one in each individual department subforum?

There's a post away thread in each individual apartment. If you feel the need to post away in only one department, you can do so.

The thing that frustrated me the most is that events was split into two sections. GMT and non-GMT. So pretty much, there was Matt and myself for the longest time on the non-GMT. the nights I spent hosting, none of my events were ever posted on the homepage (although, looking through other threads... The homepage really isn't a place where people looked)- so it was difficult to be a non-GMT hoster.

But that's my opinion. I enjoyed working under Lewis, and under Tom. Both brought a different perspective, and vibe to the department.

[Kardan]

Who is AGM for staff? Wispur;?

Why can people post away for individual departments - surely it should be constant across all departments?

[Matt]

There's a post away thread in each individual apartment. If you feel the need to post away in only one department, you can do so.

The thing that frustrated me the most is that events was split into two sections. GMT and non-GMT. So pretty much, there was Matt and myself for the longest time on the non-GMT. the nights I spent hosting, none of my events were ever posted on the homepage (although, looking through other threads... The homepage really isn't a place where people looked)- so it was difficult to be a non-GMT hoster.

But that's my opinion. I enjoyed working under Lewis, and under Tom. Both brought a different perspective, and vibe to the department.

The International side of Events is a completely different ball game altogether and I know it is incredibly frustrating. I do think that as Habbox is a Uk based fansite, anything that we try and do to get more international players will have no guarantees. It's been a struggle for a quite some time and I unfortunately don't see it changing drastically any time soon. Many ideas have been suggested in the past and many flaws have been pointed out and yet we still end up with very few players. It does depend on the time of the year, the actual event and if there is a tournament happening (as in HxEE we had a great turnout compared to normal events).

[FlyingJesus]

Posting away/limited seems to just be people saying "I don't want to do this at the moment but don't let anyone else take my role". Minimums are tiny it's like 3 hours a week and anyone who's so overworked that they don't have that much time to do something that they supposedly enjoy doing is likely to be doing a double PhD rather than their year 9 SATs. If you're on an actual holiday fair enough those last a week or two and you obviously can't be online at all in those times, but the number of people who post themselves away and then are online all the time anyway is ridic

[Brad]

The International side of Events is a completely different ball game altogether and I know it is incredibly frustrating. I do think that as Habbox is a Uk based fansite, anything that we try and do to get more international players will have no guarantees. It's been a struggle for a quite some time and I unfortunately don't see it changing drastically any time soon. Many ideas have been suggested in the past and many flaws have been pointed out and yet we still end up with very few players. It does depend on the time of the year, the actual event and if there is a tournament happening (as in HxEE we had a great turnout compared to normal events).

oh, i didn't say the stuff i said to point out flaws, I just felt i was always dealing with the same situation over and over again.
I do see that there's a need in the International Events side of things, and I know me resigning from all my jobs probably didn't help either.


Posting away/limited seems to just be people saying "I don't want to do this at the moment but don't let anyone else take my role". Minimums are tiny it's like 3 hours a week and anyone who's so overworked that they don't have that much time to do something that they supposedly enjoy doing is likely to be doing a double PhD rather than their year 9 SATs. If you're on an actual holiday fair enough those last a week or two and you obviously can't be online at all in those times, but the number of people who post themselves away and then are online all the time anyway is ridic

I totally agree with this, funny enough- that is one of the reasons why I resigned. I didn't think it was fair that I were to post away for 3 weeks (limited activity).. which i did, but didn't end up actually being that busy...
And even after resigning from my positions, i still feel like I wasn't as busy as I planned that I'd be.

But yeah, I guess most people look at the "posting away" as a fall back just incase they do actually become super busy.. (like in my case... but I wasn't haha)

[Lewis]

There's a post away thread in each individual apartment. If you feel the need to post away in only one department, you can do so.

The thing that frustrated me the most is that events was split into two sections. GMT and non-GMT. So pretty much, there was Matt and myself for the longest time on the non-GMT. the nights I spent hosting, none of my events were ever posted on the homepage (although, looking through other threads... The homepage really isn't a place where people looked)- so it was difficult to be a non-GMT hoster.

But that's my opinion. I enjoyed working under Lewis, and under Tom. Both brought a different perspective, and vibe to the department.

Hey, being a part of the non-GMT and GMT didn't tell you when you could/couldn't host. You could've hosted at any time if you wanted to, but if you were non-GMT, it was much encouraged to host in your timezone - not forced :P.

All that did was split the staff up for the two seniors to give reports on, since one senior was GMT and the other wasn't.

[Brad]

Hey, being a part of the non-GMT and GMT didn't tell you when you could/couldn't host. You could've hosted at any time if you wanted to, but if you were non-GMT, it was much encouraged to host in your timezone - not forced :P.

All that did was split the staff up for the two seniors to give reports on, since one senior was GMT and the other wasn't.

Oh I know that. I've hosted anytime I could.
The thing that I didn't like is that when they split up between non-Gmt and Gmt they never realized that I(being from canada) are closer in time zones to the Gmt than those in let's say Australia. (No effence Matt)
That's why being from the non-Gmt group meant that if we wanted our events to be posted, we'd either have to book while the seniors were on.. And if you take a look, after some of the issues brought up during the hxee, I started tagging samanfa in my things because she could add them as well, even though most management is Gmt based as it is. And to have them split up, the majority of EO's were Gmt, so it almost seemed unfair to non-Gmt senior that he (referring to Matt) only had a few people where Samantha (being other EO senior) had the majority to write on.

Not saying I was restricted to only hosting during non-Gmt hours because you have to think, what determines those hours? Midnight here is 5am in Gmt. Most times I'd catch Samantha coming home from work at like 2/3am Gmt for her to add my stuff on...

It was really confusing to be fair.

- - - Updated - - -

Also, I would just host my game anyways.. Not saying I wouldn't because there were no seniors on. Like 85% of my events were not posted on time.

[IzzyUhh]

Who is AGM for staff? Wispur;?

Why can people post away for individual departments - surely it should be constant across all departments?

Thats a good idea, but for example, when I posted away, I posted in Events AND HabboxLive, but not competitions. Thats because I had already met my comps mins at the beginning of when I needed to post away. So I didn't need to post away for all 3 depts but for 2?

[Martin]

Thats a good idea, but for example, when I posted away, I posted in Events AND HabboxLive, but not competitions. Thats because I had already met my comps mins at the beginning of when I needed to post away. So I didn't need to post away for all 3 depts but for 2?

It depends how long you're away for, but I'm guessing it would be useful to post away in all departments anyway- purely so your manager in that department is aware that you're away. Since theres sometimes more to departments than hosting minimums etc, there may be activity threads, discussion threads, other little tasks which are required at short notice, and its just nice for them to know that you won't be around I guess etc.

[Kardan]

But surely you would still need to be posted away as if people contacted you, they would be expecting a reply etc?

[Chris]

You can't post away from one specific department. If you're away from one then you're away from all.

[Lewis]

You can't post away from one specific department. If you're away from one then you're away from all.

Should be in the staff forum, with managers having mod powers on the thread. It'd make more sense!

[Kardan]

You can't post away from one specific department. If you're away from one then you're away from all.

Then why are there away threads in each of the staff subforums? Should just be one in the main staff subforum, right?

[MKR&*42]

Then why are there away threads in each of the staff subforums? Should just be one in the main staff subforum, right?

Easier to keep track of I guess? :P

[Chris]

Then why are there away threads in each of the staff subforums? Should just be one in the main staff subforum, right?

It does seem to make more sense. I'll have a think to see if there's any reasons not to and make changes where necessary. :)

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[Inseriousity.]

managers would probably miss the one in the main staff subforum. unless they're tagged in each 1 which isn't really gonna happen with everybody then it'll just be hidden away. at least when its posted in each individual forum the manager will see it.

[Mr-Trainor]

Posting away/limited seems to just be people saying "I don't want to do this at the moment but don't let anyone else take my role". Minimums are tiny it's like 3 hours a week and anyone who's so overworked that they don't have that much time to do something that they supposedly enjoy doing is likely to be doing a double PhD rather than their year 9 SATs. If you're on an actual holiday fair enough those last a week or two and you obviously can't be online at all in those times, but the number of people who post themselves away and then are online all the time anyway is ridic
Staff roles maybe - but for manager roles surely all of them will require more than 3 hours; as RVM it'd take me 3 hours, if not more, to do weekly and monthly reviews alone. That'd be one of the four weeks in the month anyway (the other three not having monthly reviews). And then that's obviously on top of everything else.


Should be in the staff forum, with managers having mod powers on the thread. It'd make more sense!

Then why are there away threads in each of the staff subforums? Should just be one in the main staff subforum, right?

It does seem to make more sense. I'll have a think to see if there's any reasons not to and make changes where necessary. :)

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If I was still manager I would absolutely hate having just one away thread for all staff - will be so much harder to keep track of who's away (well, if your department is small then maybe not). It also means you lose the ability to manage the thread for your department, e.g. once people weren't away/limited any more I'd remove their post from the away thread and just ultimately make it much easier to check who was away/limited at any given time :P.

[Kardan]

Staff roles maybe - but for manager roles surely all of them will require more than 3 hours; as RVM it'd take me 3 hours, if not more, to do weekly and monthly reviews alone. That'd be one of the four weeks in the month anyway (the other three not having monthly reviews). And then that's obviously on top of everything else.




If I was still manager I would absolutely hate having just one away thread for all staff - will be so much harder to keep track of who's away (well, if your department is small then maybe not). It also means you lose the ability to manage the thread for your department, e.g. once people weren't away/limited any more I'd remove their post from the away thread and just ultimately make it much easier to check who was away/limited at any given time :P.

There's nothing stopping a manager still having their own thread in their sub forum if they wish, but considering people are posting away for some departments and not others, it makes sense that all managers are able to see requests for away time etc. Maybe if Wispur creates a closed stickied thread in the general staff forum and just updates that himself?

[Martin]

There's nothing stopping a manager still having their own thread in their sub forum if they wish, but considering people are posting away for some departments and not others, it makes sense that all managers are able to see requests for away time etc. Maybe if Wispur creates a closed stickied thread in the general staff forum and just updates that himself? If the rule is that you have to be away from all departments and not just specific ones, then a) this needs to be clarified to all staff and needs to be kept on top of when its not being done b) Managers will automatically know when staff are away since people will have to post in their forum specific away threads. Having two seems pointless really

[Chris]

The rules regarding it are already quite clear in the thread found in the staff forums. You cant post away from one department simply because you want a break from it while continuing work in another department.

[Mr-Trainor]

There's nothing stopping a manager still having their own thread in their sub forum if they wish, but considering people are posting away for some departments and not others, it makes sense that all managers are able to see requests for away time etc. Maybe if Wispur creates a closed stickied thread in the general staff forum and just updates that himself?
If someone posted away in my department and wasn't doing any work, but was still coming online every day (which could be because they're still doing work in another department) then I'd deal with them appropriately.

[Kardan]

If the rule is that you have to be away from all departments and not just specific ones, then a) this needs to be clarified to all staff and needs to be kept on top of when its not being done b) Managers will automatically know when staff are away since people will have to post in their forum specific away threads. Having two seems pointless really

How will the competitions manager know that someone is away when they've posted that they're away in the Rare Values away thread for example?

[Martin]

The rules regarding it are already quite clear in the thread found in the staff forums. You cant post away from one department simply because you want a break from it while continuing work in another department. Indeed, but I think there are still some cases where its being ignored, im sure I heard someone say yesterday "I'm away from xx but not xx" etc
How will the competitions manager know that someone is away when they've posted that they're away in the Rare Values away thread for example? Oh I see what you mean, but why would the competitions manager want to know if a member of rare values staff is away? A lot of the time people tend to put it in their signatures or something, and I guess the competitions manager could always ask the rare values manager in the skype chat if it was that urgent :P Boost for communication irl

[Kardan]

Indeed, but I think there are still some cases where its being ignored, im sure I heard someone say yesterday "I'm away from xx but not xx" etc Oh I see what you mean, but why would the competitions manager want to know if a member of rare values staff is away? A lot of the time people tend to put it in their signatures or something, and I guess the competitions manager could always ask the rare values manager in the skype chat if it was that urgent :P Boost for communication irl

In case someone works in both departments.

[Mr-Trainor]

In case someone works in both departments.
Then it's their responsibility to post away in each department :P.

[myles]

we have come to the conclusion that events is ****** up end of discussion next discussion please

[Martin]

In case someone works in both departments.

Then they would post in the thread for each department they work in like they do now.

Its easier for managers to keep on top of and most are very organsised and have a little list etc


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[xxMATTGxx]

In case someone works in both departments.

Then it's down to the staff member to inform all of their department managers if they are going to be away. Like in work myself I don't just tell one person I've booked this specific date off, I tell around two people and then go from there. It's very simple and easy to understand for them.

[akeel$]

Staff has certainly died. If you actually search Habbox within the day you'll only find an event on during 8-9 ish or around there. We should give warnings to staff which are not hosting too much - because most of them get away with hosting one a week maybe even less. I try to do about one a day at the very least and this is all considering nobody else hosts otherwise I'd obviously give them an opportunity to host themselves rather then me hosting 24/7 so yeah we need to enforce more events / hrie more staff.

[Yawn]

i'll have u know akeels first event had over 30 ppl in the room!

[akeel$]

yup it did ;)

[Kardan]

Thats a good idea, but for example, when I posted away, I posted in Events AND HabboxLive, but not competitions. Thats because I had already met my comps mins at the beginning of when I needed to post away. So I didn't need to post away for all 3 depts but for 2?


Then it's down to the staff member to inform all of their department managers if they are going to be away. Like in work myself I don't just tell one person I've booked this specific date off, I tell around two people and then go from there. It's very simple and easy to understand for them.

Maybe it's worth someone bumping the 'Posting away' rules thread then, just so everyone is clear ;)

[xxMATTGxx]

Maybe it's worth someone bumping the 'Posting away' rules thread then, just so everyone is clear ;)

Will do