View Full Version : ******* Religion: Islam & Sharia Law
Honestly came upon this and wow, this is digustion in how they treat these human beings. Honestly, this is what Religion brings upon us, and this is unjust. A shoutout to all you Brits. Make sure the Muslims with their Sharia Law DONT influence YOUR Gov't.
Wow just Wow
There is no punishment for the crimes Muslim men committed against the women in the pictures. Sharia is focused on strictest punishment for women, and the poor. To the rich and influential the law is more lenient. What sane human bring will DEFEND an ideology like this?
This is Islam. This is Islam and it’s endorsement and freedom to abuse and use women as they please, with no boundaries.
Over 70% of terrorism is committed by Sunni Muslims and over 90% of terrorist acts are committed in Muslim countries, by Muslims killing other Muslims. Muslim countries are 100% male dominated and ruled. It should give us a hint what a male dominated society entails and turns into. So you can imagine all other barbaric brutalities they are engaged in at large on a daily basis. These men are completely diabolic.
This barbarity is the after-effect of 14 centuries of singular free reign to the male gender, without any moral compass or punishment for their actions. If Muslims are so concerned about ‘honor’ why is there no honor killings of Muslim men who brings more disgrace and shame to the Muslim community than anyone?
These pictures are the horrible and sad reminder of the imaginary “respect” Muslim men have for their women. The lives of these women are permanently destroyed while the men get off scot-free
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8jkTt7gjjfk/UzFV5h6SjdI/AAAAAAAAAbI/NP5aErY4Cq4/s1600/1.jpg (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8jkTt7gjjfk/UzFV5h6SjdI/AAAAAAAAAbI/NP5aErY4Cq4/s1600/1.jpg)
Irum Saeed, 30, was burned on her face, back and shoulders when a boy whom she rejected for marriage threw acid on her. She has undergone plastic surgery 25 times.
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Shameem Akhter, 18 was raped by three boys who then threw acid on her. Shameem has undergone plastic surgery 10 times.
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Najaf Sultana, 16.At the age of five Najaf was burned by her father while she was sleeping, because he didn’t want to have another girl in the family. Najaf became blind and after being abandoned by both her parents she now lives with relatives. She has undergone plastic surgery 15 times.
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Shehnaz Usman, 36, was burned with acid by a relative due to a familial dispute. Shehnaz has undergone plastic surgery 10 time
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-VFzJwhL99uk/UzFW5Ey_j7I/AAAAAAAAAbo/q1KkDiR2jSA/s1600/5.jpg (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-VFzJwhL99uk/UzFW5Ey_j7I/AAAAAAAAAbo/q1KkDiR2jSA/s1600/5.jpg)
Shahnaz Bibi, 35. Ten years ago Shahnaz was burned with acid by a relative due to a familial dispute. She has never undergone plastic surgery.
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Kanwal Kayum, 26. Kanwal was burned with acid by a boy whom she rejected for marriage. She has never undergone plastic surgery.
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Munira Asef, 23.Munira was burned with acid by a boy whom she rejected for marriage. She has undergone plastic surgery 7 times.
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Bushra Shari, 39. Bushra was burned with acid thrown by her husband five years ago because she was trying to divorce him. She has undergone plastic surgery 25 times
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Memuna Khan, 21, was burned by a group of boys who threw acid on her to settle a dispute between their family and Menuna’s. She has undergone plastic surgery 21 times
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oukWqztHb0U/UzFXscuM5sI/AAAAAAAAAcQ/QIXucj6CbQk/s1600/10.jpg (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oukWqztHb0U/UzFXscuM5sI/AAAAAAAAAcQ/QIXucj6CbQk/s1600/10.jpg)
Zainab Bibi, 17, was burned on her face with acid thrown by a boy whom she rejected for marriage . She has undergone plastic surgery several times to try to recover from her scars.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-44Kk8bQfjOc/UzFX4hDJ2DI/AAAAAAAAAcY/MacOacaxJe8/s1600/11.jpg (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-44Kk8bQfjOc/UzFX4hDJ2DI/AAAAAAAAAcY/MacOacaxJe8/s1600/11.jpg)
Naila Farhat, 19, was burned on her face with acid thrown by a boy whom she rejected for marriage. She has undergone plastic surgery several times.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3HOVL3tY4q4/UzFYCd_yUwI/AAAAAAAAAcg/2Rbe_4MtdPg/s1600/12.jpg (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3HOVL3tY4q4/UzFYCd_yUwI/AAAAAAAAAcg/2Rbe_4MtdPg/s1600/12.jpg)
Saira Liaqat, 26, holds a portrait of herself before being burned. When she was fifteen, Saira was married to a relative who would later attack her with acid after insistently demanding her to live with him, although the families had agreed she wouldn’t join him until she finished school. Saira has undergone plastic surgery 9 times.
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MKR&*42
28-05-2014, 07:00 PM
Can an actual muslim or someone who knows about islam truthfully come and educate Tyler.
p.s. im sure there are atheist people who do horrific things too?
myles
28-05-2014, 07:06 PM
can this thread be taken down its really disturbing
!x!dude!x!2
28-05-2014, 07:07 PM
Can an actual muslim or someone who knows about islam truthfully come and educate Tyler.
p.s. im sure there are atheist people who do horrific things too?
He doesnt understand that in other countries those things are normal . they've been doing that for years. things that are normal to us are weird for them. Ya its very sad to see how the woman are treated there but its how their country does things I guess
Kardan
28-05-2014, 07:10 PM
Because non-religious people have never committed a crime ever.
u've rly outdone urself with this 1 dragga
dont know where to start ridiculous and disgusting
Kuybii
28-05-2014, 07:15 PM
Firstly, i am UKIP voter so lets just establish who i side with. I don't believe this is just "what they do over there", i hope that the men that terrorised these women have seen prison sentences because it is GBH for a start.
Secondly, these are going to be the biggest, most wide spread & if you found them on the internet, most known about cases of cruelty. This wont happen to every female or i'd probably say 95% of the women from their origin.
My only real concern here is for the women obviously but its the fact it is all a subject based on religion. We have prisons full, too full infact of white british males who fiddle with kids, kill, steal, thieve etc, but out of that percentage could you say they have performed their actions/crimes through religion, personally i definitely think it'd be 0.0000003%. As a white male British, UKIP voter, i do not have any problem what so ever with the colour of your skin or where you come from, its the sheer length you are willing to go to fullfil this religious codswollop. I don't want to sound uneducated but every asian person who supports whichever religion, there is crime and brutality that comes with it. Apart from the rednecks that live in the trees in America, how many christians have gone onto commit horrendous crimes to primarily fulfil there religious beliefs. This is why we have a problem. Not because your black, white, yellow, blue, green or red, i say it again and i am positive i speak for thousands, we just have a problem with your religion.
iBlueBox
28-05-2014, 07:16 PM
can someone shorten it down i didn't read it and the images scare me
MKR&*42
28-05-2014, 07:18 PM
There are actually atheists who have killed people simply because they were religious Tyler, so stop trying to convince people that the grass is greener on the lack-of-religion side.
Kardan
28-05-2014, 07:19 PM
Firstly, i am UKIP voter so lets just establish who i side with. I don't believe this is just "what they do over there", i hope that the men that terrorised these women have seen prison sentences because it is GBH for a start.
Secondly, these are going to be the biggest, most wide spread & if you found them on the internet, most known about cases of cruelty. This wont happen to every female or i'd probably say 95% of the women from their origin.
My only real concern here is for the women obviously but its the fact it is all a subject based on religion. We have prisons full, too full infact of white british males who fiddle with kids, but out of that percentage could you say they have performed their actions/crimes through religion, personally i definitely think not. As a white male British, UKIP voter, i do not have any problem what so ever with the colour of your skin or where you come from, its the sheer length you are willing to go to fullfil this religious codswollop. I don't want to sound uneducated but every asian person who supports whichever religion, there is crime and brutality that comes with it. Apart from the rednecks that live in the trees in America, how many christians have gone onto commit horrendous crimes to primarily fulfil there religious beliefs. This is why we have a problem. Not because your black, white, yellow, blue, green or red, i say it again and i am positive i speak for thousands, we just have a problem with your religion.
karter; - Have a field day with this guy.
FlyingJesus
28-05-2014, 07:19 PM
Adult males make up 40% of the victims of acid attacks (http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/feminist-lies-feminism/acid-attacks-telling-only-half-the-story/), adult women 44.8% (http://www.thecasc.org/docs/CASC%20Statistics%20as%20of%2031March2013.pdf), the rest children. Female attackers using acid have a long history (http://unknownmisandry.blogspot.ca/2011/08/acid-queens-women-who-throw-acid.html) even in the West.
It's interesting that you bring up acid attacks in the same post as Sharia law, since under Sharia law there is a process called Qisas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qisas) which in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and other Sharia-ruled countries means that acid attackers will have the same thing done to them as punishment and if not then in Pakistan they face life imprisonment. In India is 10 year to life, in Bangladesh you are sentenced to death for it with conspirators who don't even handle the acid or the victim facing the same punishment. Hardly getting away with it.
Basically you are spewing falseness and harmful propaganda without any real education on the subject matter you've chosen. You are an irresponsible child with less wit than fingers and you desperately need to learn how to do your research before copying and pasting nonsense.
myles
28-05-2014, 07:20 PM
i hate you so much dragga you are literally the most selfish human being i have ever come across you dont care about anyone else but yourself and if people do not have the same views as you then you feel the need to abuse them and make sly comments about their beliefs. it is people like you who are what is wrong with the world!
Kardan
28-05-2014, 07:20 PM
u've rly outdone urself with this 1 dragga
dont know where to start ridiculous and disgusting
I think you mean digustion.
(That's how Dragga spelt it in his post if you don't understand what I'm on about).
Firstly, i am UKIP voter so lets just establish who i side with. I don't believe this is just "what they do over there", i hope that the men that terrorised these women have seen prison sentences because it is GBH for a start.
Secondly, these are going to be the biggest, most wide spread & if you found them on the internet, most known about cases of cruelty. This wont happen to every female or i'd probably say 95% of the women from their origin.
My only real concern here is for the women obviously but its the fact it is all a subject based on religion. We have prisons full, too full infact of white british males who fiddle with kids, kill, steal, thieve etc, but out of that percentage could you say they have performed their actions/crimes through religion, personally i definitely think not. As a white male British, UKIP voter, i do not have any problem what so ever with the colour of your skin or where you come from, its the sheer length you are willing to go to fullfil this religious codswollop. I don't want to sound uneducated but every asian person who supports whichever religion, there is crime and brutality that comes with it. Apart from the rednecks that live in the trees in America, how many christians have gone onto commit horrendous crimes to primarily fulfil there religious beliefs. This is why we have a problem. Not because your black, white, yellow, blue, green or red, i say it again and i am positive i speak for thousands, we just have a problem with your religion.
just to clarify, you're a ukip voter?
dragga this is disgusting u shud be banned for this
i just put my entire fist through my face at "as a white british ukip voter"
help
i mean its not only stupid as **** to label every single muslim the same because of a few extreme muslims, but to then label every religious person on the planet because of a few individuals in 1 religion is even more stupid
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Kuybii
28-05-2014, 07:24 PM
just to clarify, you're a ukip voter?
I felt it was necessary to establish i am part of the percentage that doesn't want the country to be taken for a joke. Have religions imposed on it without the homecrowd having a say in it.
Now if you have anything useful to say regarding my post, please, i am all ears.
Kardan
28-05-2014, 07:25 PM
i mean its not only stupid as **** to label every single muslim the same because of a few extreme muslims, but to then label every religious person on the planet because of a few individuals in 1 religion is even more stupid
*removed*
Wait till you read Kuybii's post.
FlyingJesus
28-05-2014, 07:25 PM
I felt it was necessary to establish i am part of the percentage that doesn't want the country to be taken for a joke. Have religions imposed on it without the homecrowd having a say in it.
Now if you have anything useful to say regarding my post, please, i am all ears.
You're aware that we are legally a Christian country and have been for many many centuries right
Kuybii
28-05-2014, 07:27 PM
i just put my entire fist through my face at "as a white british ukip voter"
help
Why so? would it not be helpful to establish my ethnicity and chosen political party for the UK? I pray to god your naivety doesn't believe that ONLY White British people voted for UKIP.
Kardan
28-05-2014, 07:27 PM
I felt it was necessary to establish i am part of the percentage that doesn't want the country to be taken for a joke. Have religions imposed on it without the homecrowd having a say in it.
Now if you have anything useful to say regarding my post, please, i am all ears.
But UKIP wants to bring back 'Christian values' to the country, which sounds awfully like having religious imposed upon us, does it not?
Kuybii
28-05-2014, 07:28 PM
You're absolutely correct! 10 Points to Hufflepuff.
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Are we not Christians? Isn't Christianity the home religion of the United Kingdom?
Kardan
28-05-2014, 07:29 PM
You're absolutely correct! 10 Points to Hufflepuff.
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Are we not Christians? Isn't Christianity the home religion of the United Kingdom?
Umm... no, we're not all Christians.
!x!dude!x!2
28-05-2014, 07:29 PM
Dragga you're making these people sound like animals. they are people too
FlyingJesus
28-05-2014, 07:31 PM
"I hate religions imposing on us, we're all Christians we should follow Christianity"
Think we've found a perfect partner for Dragga
Kardan
28-05-2014, 07:32 PM
And anyway, isn't UKIP all about clamping down on the EU immigration, y'know, the people from Europe, the people that aren't very likely to practice Islam.
You can vote UKIP all you like, but it's not going to kick non-Christians out of the country, if you want that, it's the BNP you need to be voting for.
Kuybii
28-05-2014, 07:33 PM
As the original religion of England was Christianity. As myself, apart of the homecrowd would prefer, to see Christianity as the homecrowd religion. Not Sharia Law, Muslim, or any kind of religion that wasn't originated in England.
Hey i am all for the idea of expressive religions, but i would just like to make sure Christianity is the top dog...
Put it in terms y'all can understand because you are quite clearly getting on my back and i have obviously touched a nerve here.
Retail Store;
GENERAL MANAGER - Christianity
Everything under a General Manager - Other Religions.
Thats as simple and as straight forward as i can be.
But can you not atleast level with me with that there is a staggeringly higher percentage of religious related attacks carried out throughout the UK & Origin countries by other religions than Christianity?
myles
28-05-2014, 07:34 PM
OMG WTF
you are digging yourself intoa deeper hole mate
MKR&*42
28-05-2014, 07:35 PM
Ffs i cant -rep this idiot (tyler) till 30th may someone do it for me.
ot; i still disagree with u
Kuybii
28-05-2014, 07:35 PM
You have achieved level:9219 in sarcastic propaganda for hate.
I haven't once said we should ALL be Christians. Im saying, in England, the main religion has to be Christianity.
Kardan
28-05-2014, 07:38 PM
As the original religion of England was Christianity. As myself, apart of the homecrowd would prefer, to see Christianity as the homecrowd religion. Not Sharia Law, Muslim, or any kind of religion that wasn't originated in England.
Hey i am all for the idea of expressive religions, but i would just like to make sure Christianity is the top dog...
Put it in terms y'all can understand because you are quite clearly getting on my back and i have obviously touched a nerve here.
Retail Store;
GENERAL MANAGER - Christianity
Everything under a General Manager - Other Religions.
Thats as simple and as straight forward as i can be.
But can you not atleast level with me with that there is a staggeringly higher percentage of religious related attacks carried out throughout the UK & Origin countries by other religions than Christianity?
Well, luckily for you, Sharia Law isn't imposed on any parts of the UK, and Christianity is the official religion of the UK, as well as the most practised religion of the UK.
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Also worth noting that there seems to be no official statistics on how religion impacts crime (I only found a quote saying if you are religious you are LESS likely to be involved in crime), so not entirely sure where you are getting the "Muslims commit more crime than Christians" thing from. (inb4 confirmation bias wiki link).
Matthew
28-05-2014, 07:42 PM
As the original religion of England was Christianity. As myself, apart of the homecrowd would prefer, to see Christianity as the homecrowd religion. Not Sharia Law, Muslim, or any kind of religion that wasn't originated in England.
Hey i am all for the idea of expressive religions, but i would just like to make sure Christianity is the top dog...
Put it in terms y'all can understand because you are quite clearly getting on my back and i have obviously touched a nerve here.
Retail Store;
GENERAL MANAGER - Christianity
Everything under a General Manager - Other Religions.
Thats as simple and as straight forward as i can be.
But can you not atleast level with me with that there is a staggeringly higher percentage of religious related attacks carried out throughout the UK & Origin countries by other religions than Christianity?
In the UK it already is?
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You have achieved level:9219 in sarcastic propaganda for hate.
I haven't once said we should ALL be Christians. Im saying, in England, the main religion has to be Christianity.
AND IT IS!
Kardan
28-05-2014, 07:45 PM
And @Kyubii; this is the closest we can get really, Race and Crime (Not exactly religion, but hey, you hinted that all Asians are Muslim, so we'll roll with that).
Arrests in the UK: 79.6% are white, 8.0% are black, 5.6% are Asian, 2.9% are mixed, 1.5% are Other, 2.4% are Unknown/Not stated.
OldLoveSong
28-05-2014, 07:45 PM
Those countries are seriously corrupt and its awful to see all those pictures. >.<
Kuybii
28-05-2014, 07:45 PM
Sharia Law isn't being practiced in the UK? And i'm apparently the uneducated one. Islamic Sharia Law is in the process of being integrated in the UK Law due to certain people, under the oath of Sharia Law have been excused for their sins/have been given reduced sentences because they were acting under religion.
Wherever you live, wherever you come from, just take a visit to Bradford. You will love it. Quite obviously.
Karden, you will quite clearly see i have established that white british citizens do commit crimes. But crimes that aren't forced around religion. And did you just check for Muslim in your little google search? Or did you search for Islam? Sharia? Did you find the sex trafficking scandle of Muslim grooming gangs that definitely equal to more than your lousy 5% for UK Crime?
As the original religion of England was Christianity. As myself, apart of the homecrowd would prefer, to see Christianity as the homecrowd religion. Not Sharia Law, Muslim, or any kind of religion that wasn't originated in England.
Hey i am all for the idea of expressive religions, but i would just like to make sure Christianity is the top dog...
Put it in terms y'all can understand because you are quite clearly getting on my back and i have obviously touched a nerve here.
Retail Store;
GENERAL MANAGER - Christianity
Everything under a General Manager - Other Religions.
Thats as simple and as straight forward as i can be.
But can you not atleast level with me with that there is a staggeringly higher percentage of religious related attacks carried out throughout the UK & Origin countries by other religions than Christianity?
i will level with u when u show some evidence of this STAGGERINGLY high percentage :)
i mean which religions preach hate and violence like..... wat are u talking about
sexpot
28-05-2014, 07:48 PM
can we get some goddam spoilers in here jesus
Kuybii
28-05-2014, 07:49 PM
i will level with u when u show some evidence of this STAGGERINGLY high percentage :)
i mean which religions preach hate and violence like..... wat are u talking about
It makes me think people like you regardless of whatever i say, there will always be something that isn't quite right. There is clear & factual evidence, people who practice Islam, Sharia & Muslim religions do act violance and terrorism through religion. You just can't deny that. Clear and factual evidence.
Subo. Here is a lovely little dare for you. If you video yourself walking through tower hamlets & the densely populated muslim communities in Bradford with a I <3 CHRISTIANITY sign and Help For Heroes merchandise on and you don't get some serious agg (battered)...bit unfortunate, last time someone tried that they were decapitated in the streets, i will personally drive to a location near you and hand you £100 in cash.
Why so? would it not be helpful to establish my ethnicity and chosen political party for the UK? I pray to god your naivety doesn't believe that ONLY White British people voted for UKIP.
No, I'm facepalming at you feeling that it's necessary to establish both your ethnicity and your political preference and drag the UKIP name down even further into the depths of bigotry. Not all religions promote violence and in fact eastern religions are some of the most peaceful on this Earth. Christianity -- like any religion -- has it downfalls, nutjobs, fundamentalists and weird stories that make zero sense... so to suggest that it should be a 'top dog' just because 'that's the way it's always been!!!' is absurd.
I'm really really tired of people (avid UKIP supporters especially, no offence) banging on about all things British. Britain is now multicultural. Yes, there are muslims, hindus, sikhs, pastafarians and scientologists with some views that don't conform but to use examples like this from other nations where Sharia Law *IS* the norm and mould it to fit your own agenda annoys me.
There's no 'staggeringly high percentage' of religious attacks. That's a crock of absolute... rubbish. It's kinda ironic how people bang on about religion and are being indoctrinated by the media to believe such rubbish XD
@subo (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=112144); this would have been perfect thread for moral panics/islamaphobia :P
PLEASE STOP SAYING THERE IS EVIDENCE AND ACTUALLY POST SOME
Kardan
28-05-2014, 07:53 PM
Sharia Law isn't being practiced in the UK? And i'm apparently the uneducated one. Islamic Sharia Law is in the process of being integrated in the UK Law due to certain people, under the oath of Sharia Law have been excused for their sins/have been given reduced sentences because they were acting under religion.
Wherever you live, wherever you come from, just take a visit to Bradford. You will love it. Quite obviously.
Karden, you will quite clearly see i have established that white british citizens do commit crimes. But crimes that aren't forced around religion. And did you just check for Muslim in your little google search? Or did you search for Islam? Sharia? Did you find the sex trafficking scandle of Muslim grooming gangs that definitely equal to more than your lousy 5% for UK Crime?
hahahaha @ bold.
Anyway, can you give us an example where Sharia Law is now part of the UK Law?
And I see your 'Muslim grooming gang' and raise you with 'Catholic sex abuse scandal'.
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It makes me think people like you regardless of whatever i say, there will always be something that isn't quite right. There is clear & factual evidence, people who practice Islam, Sharia & Muslim religions do act violance and terrorism through religion. You just can't deny that. Clear and factual evidence.
Subo. Here is a lovely little dare for you. If you video yourself walking through tower hamlets & the densely populated muslim communities in Bradford with a I <3 CHRISTIANITY sign and Help For Heroes merchandise on and you don't get some serious agg (battered)...bit unfortunate, last time someone tried that they were decapitated in the streets, i will personally drive to a location near you and hand you £100 in cash.
That sums up your whole argument I'm afraid.
dbgtz
28-05-2014, 07:57 PM
There's nutters who take things to the extreme in just about anything and isn't limited to any religious belief or political stance. Also a semi related note in that religion and politics should not be mixed to the greatest extent possible.
FlyingJesus
28-05-2014, 07:59 PM
As the original religion of England was Christianity.
No it absolutely was not
As myself, apart of the homecrowd would prefer, to see Christianity as the homecrowd religion. Not Sharia Law, Muslim, or any kind of religion that wasn't originated in England.
Ahhh Christianity originated in England I see...
http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lg0c1mVmNM1qzwurao1_500.gif
But can you not atleast level with me with that there is a staggeringly higher percentage of religious related attacks carried out throughout the UK & Origin countries by other religions than Christianity?
Have you never heard of Ireland
Sharia Law isn't being practiced in the UK? And i'm apparently the uneducated one. Islamic Sharia Law is in the process of being integrated in the UK Law due to certain people, under the oath of Sharia Law have been excused for their sins/have been given reduced sentences because they were acting under religion.
[citation needed]
akeel$
28-05-2014, 08:00 PM
can this thread be taken down its really disturbing
This to be honest. :/
Kardan
28-05-2014, 08:01 PM
I think Jeremy Paxman sums up our side of the argument exactly. Contains racist language that some viewers may find offensive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFyO9s07Jgs
It makes me think people like you regardless of whatever i say, there will always be something that isn't quite right. There is clear & factual evidence, people who practice Islam, Sharia & Muslim religions do act violance and terrorism through religion. You just can't deny that. Clear and factual evidence.
Subo. Here is a lovely little dare for you. If you video yourself walking through tower hamlets & the densely populated muslim communities in Bradford with a I <3 CHRISTIANITY sign and Help For Heroes merchandise on and you don't get some serious agg (battered)...bit unfortunate, last time someone tried that they were decapitated in the streets, i will personally drive to a location near you and hand you £100 in cash.
no no no
i dont know where to start just no. i said some actual evidence...not something u are just pulling from ur ass about wat u think would happen?? its actually laughable wat ur claiming and mortifying at the same time that u actually believe this
Kuybii
28-05-2014, 08:07 PM
No, I'm facepalming at you feeling that it's necessary to establish both your ethnicity and your political preference and drag the UKIP name down even further into the depths of bigotry. Not all religions promote violence and in fact eastern religions are some of the most peaceful on this Earth. Christianity -- like any religion -- has it downfalls, nutjobs, fundamentalists and weird stories that make zero sense... so to suggest that it should be a 'top dog' just because 'that's the way it's always been!!!' is absurd.
I'm really really tired of people (avid UKIP supporters especially, no offence) banging on about all things British. Britain is now multicultural. Yes, there are muslims, hindus, sikhs, pastafarians and scientologists with some views that don't conform but to use examples like this from other nations where Sharia Law *IS* the norm and mould it to fit your own agenda annoys me.
There's no 'staggeringly high percentage' of religious attacks. That's a crock of absolute... rubbish. It's kinda ironic how people bang on about religion and are being indoctrinated by the media to believe such rubbish XD
@subo (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=112144); this would have been perfect thread for moral panics/islamaphobia :P
PLEASE STOP SAYING THERE IS EVIDENCE AND ACTUALLY POST SOME
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2564678/Teenage-girl-victim-grooming-gang-raped-30-men-just-six-hours-including-father-schoolboy-son.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2515493/Soldier-Lee-Rigby-murdered-mutilated-decapitated-Woolwich-attack-court-hears.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2640632/Stoned-death-marrying-man-loved-Woman-attacked-sticks-bricks-20-members-OWN-family-broad-daylight-Pakistan.html
http://www.history.co.uk/study-topics/history-of-london/77-london-bombings
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1365724/Poppy-burning-Muslim-s-father-served-14-proud-years-Navy.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1286784/Muslim-protesters-brand-war-heroes-murderers-homecoming-parade-turns-violent.html
- I was going to post that are happening in origin countries, but i chose not too as i'm only concerned and obviously you're concerned about the UK here. Here are some of the popular ones that took me 5 minutes to search for which i was already made aware of.
To answer some of your highly judgemental remarks without obviously reading any what i've said thoroughly.
I havent said ALL religions promote violance, not even the islamic religion. But there is an extremism which needs to be dealt with.
Ofcourse people who're Christians are nutjobs and whatever you said. But what i've said, people who support Sharia/Islamic etc religions statistically cause more crime than those who follow Christianity.
No. You are wrong. Your telling me we should split England up into different segments like an orange based to Religious beliefs. I'm sorry, if you live here there are certain things you should conform too. Obviously one of my beliefs i am strong on. If i as a human being move to say India and their religion which has been for years is to be Islamic lets say, i wouldn't start protesting about it.
So you support Sharia law? You obviously hate women?
do you have any links to actual statistics rather than tabloids that distribute anti islamic propaganda. 1 is clearly labelled "extremists", 1 is a guy who burned a poppy, 1 is 7/7 which is also fundamentalists, 1 is in pakistan so not really relevant and again, another is extremists/fundamentalists lmao
sharia law isn't taking over. put the dailymail down.
I don't think Britain should be segmented at all. I think we should all mingle instead of remaining clueless. absorb the culture!
FlyingJesus
28-05-2014, 08:09 PM
6 acts of violence are now a staggeringly high percentage of crimes in the country
Can an actual muslim or someone who knows about islam truthfully come and educate Tyler.
p.s. im sure there are atheist people who do horrific things too?
Because non-religious people have never committed a crime ever.
Warren, actually this is a very common practice in the Islamic countries, treating woman as property is in the (Shakira) Sharia Law and in their version of the Bible.
Actually, doesn't matter on who you are and what you believe in. You'll commit a crime. Since it is in their law saying its ok to do such a thing (As woman are property to man), and is preached in their religion. It's not a crime to do this there, which is a crime against humanity itself.
There will always be good and bad people. Religion gives good people reasons to do bad things (Inturn making them bad people)
He doesnt understand that in other countries those things are normal . they've been doing that for years. things that are normal to us are weird for them. Ya its very sad to see how the woman are treated there but its how their country does things I guess
Yes whats "Normal" isn't always the right thing to do. Abusing woman and treating them like property, even in less physically damaging ways, is not right. We are all Human beings, don't matter if we got two bags between our legs, or on our chest.
Whats "Normal" is not always right. Abusing anyone is never RIGHT.
Kuybii
28-05-2014, 08:13 PM
hahahaha @ bold.
Anyway, can you give us an example where Sharia Law is now part of the UK Law?
And I see your 'Muslim grooming gang' and raise you with 'Catholic sex abuse scandal'.
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That sums up your whole argument I'm afraid.
But did i say All? Thought i'd use your tip of bolding it. Also hate to break it to you but im Christian & not catholic.
MKR&*42
28-05-2014, 08:13 PM
Are you still banging on this tune that religion only does bad. Are you literally that braindead.
Religion doesn't promote bad things (in most cases), it's people who misinterpret the religion that do bad things (hey look they have something in common with you - misinterpreting).
Screw all the things that religious charity has ever done for anyone ever what a completely horrific thing for them to do.
Kardan
28-05-2014, 08:18 PM
But did i say All? Thought i'd use your tip of bolding it. Also hate to break it to you but im Christian & not catholic.
You did say "I don't want to sound uneducated but every asian person who supports whichever religion, there is crime and brutality that comes with it"
So any religion an Asian supports there is a crime and brutality, and I'm sure you could find an Asian that supports every major religion. So yeah, yeah you did.
!x!dude!x!2
28-05-2014, 08:18 PM
Warren, actually this is a very common practice in the Islamic countries, treating woman as property is in the (Shakira) Sharia Law and in their version of the Bible.
Actually, doesn't matter on who you are and what you believe in. You'll commit a crime. Since it is in their law saying its ok to do such a thing (As woman are property to man), and is preached in their religion. It's not a crime to do this there, which is a crime against humanity itself.
There will always be good and bad people. Religion gives good people reasons to do bad things (Inturn making them bad people)
Yes whats "Normal" isn't always the right thing to do. Abusing woman and treating them like property, even in less physically damaging ways, is not right. We are all Human beings, don't matter if we got two bags between our legs, or on our chest.
Whats "Normal" is not always right. Abusing anyone is never RIGHT.
Tyler. Every country is different and isn't going to work you want it work. The world doesn't revolve around you and the way you want it
Kardan
28-05-2014, 08:20 PM
But did i say All? Thought i'd use your tip of bolding it. Also hate to break it to you but im Christian & not catholic.
Catholicism is a subset of Christianity, so the Catholic sex abuse scandal is a perfect example of crime committed by Christians.
Kuybii
28-05-2014, 08:21 PM
do you have any links to actual statistics rather than tabloids that distribute anti islamic propaganda. 1 is clearly labelled "extremists", 1 is a guy who burned a poppy, 1 is 7/7 which is also fundamentalists, 1 is in pakistan so not really relevant and again, another is extremists/fundamentalists lmao
sharia law isn't taking over. put the dailymail down.
I don't think Britain should be segmented at all. I think we should all mingle instead of remaining clueless. absorb the culture!
I dont know what more evidence you want, i have provided you with the most popular pieces of evidence because i couldn't be bothered digging for more and more lower cased/less popular articles? People have been given jail sentences, photos taken of such crimes, what other evidence is there which i can provide you? This is what i call naivety at the very very best. Yup. Everyone is perfect. Bored of this now, its like headbutting a brick wall over and over. It's people like you that have ended up being SO scared of being classed as racist or not proud/strong enough to stand up for personal beliefs, you'd rather drink up the gvt's bull about being politically correct - the type of person that has conformed to the idea that we can no longer sing baa baa black sheep to our kids becuase its considered racist. Or maybe your a child and in schools its what theyre practicing now so it might not technically be your fault...
Ah dunno.
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Catholicism is a subset of Christianity, so the Catholic sex abuse scandal is a perfect example of crime committed by Christians.
Your turn. Provide me with the same-level amount of evidence (prison sentences/law cases) which i have provided you with Christians fiddling kids in Catholic monasteries
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You did say "I don't want to sound uneducated but every asian person who supports whichever religion, there is crime and brutality that comes with it"
So any religion an Asian supports there is a crime and brutality, and I'm sure you could find an Asian that supports every major religion. So yeah, yeah you did.
and this is probably your most stupid yet mate. Have a think pal. I dunno, stick your head outside and get a bit of fresh air. Your trying to manipulate what i've said into something you support. I clearly didn't say every single asian person who practices homeland religion inflicts crime and brutality on a day-to-day basis.
Tyler. Every country is different and isn't going to work you want it work. The world doesn't revolve around you and the way you want it
So your saying that fundamental rights shouldn't be given to half the populace? I find that honestly terrifying.
We are all around 3.5 Billion years of evolutionary success, act like it!
Kardan
28-05-2014, 08:28 PM
I dont know what more evidence you want, i have provided you with the most popular pieces of evidence because i couldn't be bothered digging for more and more lower cased/less popular articles? People have been given jail sentences, photos taken of such crimes, what other evidence is there which i can provide you? This is what i call naivety at the very very best. Yup. Everyone is perfect. Bored of this now, its like headbutting a brick wall over and over. It's people like you that have ended up being SO scared of being classed as racist or not proud/strong enough to stand up for personal beliefs, you'd rather drink up the gvt's bull about being politically correct - the type of person that has conformed to the idea that we can no longer sing baa baa black sheep to our kids becuase its considered racist. Or maybe your a child and in schools its what theyre practicing now so it might not technically be your fault...
Ah dunno.
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Your turn. Provide me with the same-level amount of evidence (prison sentences/law cases) which i have provided you with Christians fiddling kids in Catholic monasteries
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and this is probably your most stupid yet mate. Have a think pal. I dunno, stick your head outside and get a bit of fresh air. Your trying to manipulate what i've said into something you support. I clearly didn't say every single asian person who practices homeland religion inflicts crime and brutality on a day-to-day basis.
Your 'proof' are Daily Mail news stories. You are literally saying: "Look, the people that committed 7/7 were Muslims, so Muslims must commit more crime than Christians".
And what evidence do you want from me? I'm saying there is no evidence that one religion commits more crime than another. If you want examples of crimes committed by Christians, then sure, there's absolutely tons - but does that prove that Christians commit more crimes than Muslims? No. Does the fact there's no evidence to prove that mean the opposite is true? No.
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So your saying that fundamental rights shouldn't be given to half the populace? I find that honestly terrifying.
We are all around 3.5 Billion years of evolutionary success, act like it!
The Earth may be around 3.5 Billion years old, but humans, let alone modern day humans, are nowhere near that.
FlyingJesus
28-05-2014, 08:30 PM
Warren, actually this is a very common practice in the Islamic countries, treating woman as property is in the (Shakira) Sharia Law and in their version of the Bible.
Actually, doesn't matter on who you are and what you believe in. You'll commit a crime. Since it is in their law saying its ok to do such a thing (As woman are property to man), and is preached in their religion. It's not a crime to do this there, which is a crime against humanity itself.
Yes it is a crime to do it there:
under Sharia law there is a process called Qisas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qisas) which in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and other Sharia-ruled countries means that acid attackers will have the same thing done to them as punishment and if not then in Pakistan they face life imprisonment. In India is 10 year to life, in Bangladesh you are sentenced to death for it with conspirators who don't even handle the acid or the victim facing the same punishment. Hardly getting away with it.
Yes whats "Normal" isn't always the right thing to do. Abusing woman and treating them like property, even in less physically damaging ways, is not right. We are all Human beings, don't matter if we got two bags between our legs, or on our chest.
Oh goody I get to quote myself again since Sharia law is not about abusing women and acid attacks are not female-only:
Adult males make up 40% of the victims of acid attacks (http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/feminist-lies-feminism/acid-attacks-telling-only-half-the-story/), adult women 44.8% (http://www.thecasc.org/docs/CASC%20Statistics%20as%20of%2031March2013.pdf), the rest children. Female attackers using acid have a long history (http://unknownmisandry.blogspot.ca/2011/08/acid-queens-women-who-throw-acid.html) even in the West.
Also hate to break it to you but im Christian & not catholic.
Obviously not a very good one if you don't even know that Catholics are Christians.
The Earth may be around 3.5 Billion years old, but humans, let alone modern day humans, are nowhere near that.
Technically we are because we still had to follow the same evolutionary processes through bacterium and such to get here :P
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2564678/Teenage-girl-victim-grooming-gang-raped-30-men-just-six-hours-including-father-schoolboy-son.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2515493/Soldier-Lee-Rigby-murdered-mutilated-decapitated-Woolwich-attack-court-hears.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2640632/Stoned-death-marrying-man-loved-Woman-attacked-sticks-bricks-20-members-OWN-family-broad-daylight-Pakistan.html
http://www.history.co.uk/study-topics/history-of-london/77-london-bombings
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1365724/Poppy-burning-Muslim-s-father-served-14-proud-years-Navy.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1286784/Muslim-protesters-brand-war-heroes-murderers-homecoming-parade-turns-violent.html
- I was going to post that are happening in origin countries, but i chose not too as i'm only concerned and obviously you're concerned about the UK here. Here are some of the popular ones that took me 5 minutes to search for which i was already made aware of.
To answer some of your highly judgemental remarks without obviously reading any what i've said thoroughly.
I havent said ALL religions promote violance, not even the islamic religion. But there is an extremism which needs to be dealt with.
Ofcourse people who're Christians are nutjobs and whatever you said. But what i've said, people who support Sharia/Islamic etc religions statistically cause more crime than those who follow Christianity.
No. You are wrong. Your telling me we should split England up into different segments like an orange based to Religious beliefs. I'm sorry, if you live here there are certain things you should conform too. Obviously one of my beliefs i am strong on. If i as a human being move to say India and their religion which has been for years is to be Islamic lets say, i wouldn't start protesting about it.
So you support Sharia law? You obviously hate women?
simply put u need to distinguish muslims from extremists, and muslims in britain from muslims in other countries with entirely different cultures. the violence in the OP of this thread, the 6 articles u posted and the things that go on in those countries are not condoned by any1 in this thread, and the majority of muslims wouldnt condone it in any way, shape or form either :rolleyes:
u and dragga have painted massive groups of ppl with the same brush for the actions of a tiny minority
Kuybii
28-05-2014, 08:31 PM
Karden. Just please stop talking now. You're chatting absolute b******s. Go back to school pls.
not afraid of being called politically incorrect, would just rather not be a bigot. the islamaphobia is real here isn't it. I suppose you think old ladies are getting mugged on street corners, that teen pregnancy is on the rise, that the polish are stealing our jobs or that coffee gives you cancer. link to *actual* statistics, not cherrypicked articles that promote this culture of muslim bashing
legitimately on the floor at the comment about walking through bradford wearing i <3 christianity shirt hahahhaaha can't cope
YEAH KARDEN GO BACK TO SCHOOL (where u will be teaching kids soon)
FlyingJesus
28-05-2014, 08:33 PM
I don't think bollocks is filtered, much like your brain processes
Kuybii
28-05-2014, 08:33 PM
simply put u need to distinguish muslims from extremists, and muslims in britain from muslims in other countries with entirely different cultures. the violence in the OP of this thread, the 6 articles u posted and the things that go on in those countries are not condoned by any1 in this thread, and the majority of muslims wouldnt condone it in any way, shape or form either :rolleyes:
Did i not say in a post about 2 pages ago it is the extremism nature within the Islamic religion which needs to be dealt with and not the Islamic religion itself? The extremists act upon what they deem right from their religion. I have asian friends who are totally wicked sick, if they decided to start blowing things up, then i wouldn't be friends with them right? This whole time you've been pro-islam and have been naive about what goes on within the Islamic communities.
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legitimately on the floor at the comment about walking through bradford wearing i <3 christianity shirt hahahhaaha can't cope
YEAH KARDEN GO BACK TO SCHOOL (where u will be teaching kids soon)
Same goes to you kiddo. Do it, you've won yourself £100. Wasnt quite exactly what i said but i'll roll with it.
!x!dude!x!2
28-05-2014, 08:35 PM
So your saying that fundamental rights shouldn't be given to half the populace? I find that honestly terrifying.
We are all around 3.5 Billion years of evolutionary success, act like it!
You do know that females didn't have rights till the 1920's right.
Women got the right to vote at different times in different countries. In the USA, the 19th amendment was passed in 1920, though several states had already given women the right to vote, beginning with Wyoming in 1869. In the UK, women over 30 got the vote in 1918, and women over 21 in 1928. Women in Germany got the vote at about the same time. In France, women got the vote in 1947.
Some countries haven't changed yet.
Kardan
28-05-2014, 08:35 PM
Karden. Just please stop talking now. You're chatting absolute b******s. Go back to school pls.
Already got plans for that in September ;)
FlyingJesus
28-05-2014, 08:36 PM
You do know that females didn't have rights till the 1920's right.
Yes they did that's a ridiculous notion that's at least as uneducated as Dragga's posts
The Earth may be around 3.5 Billion years old, but humans, let alone modern day humans, are nowhere near that.
Well actually yes, we are. Life started out as single cell prokaryotes slowly we evolved from that, to our modern day humans.
So everything is 3.5 billion years of Evolutionary Success
Also Earth is around 4.5 Billion years old, scientists predict it would be around 3.5 billion years ago is when first life was.
Kuybii
28-05-2014, 08:36 PM
Obviously not a very good one if you don't even know that Catholics are Christians.
oh for god sake.
http://carm.org/is-catholicism-christian
didn't know it was possible for somebody to be that ignorant
walking through a street that is in an established muslim community wearing attire meant to provoke and succeeding does not equal a staggering religious attack, it equals 1 individual provoking another based on their religious beliefs. im muslim but if I were white and walked through this street without the christianity t shirt would I be approached? probably not. tolerance is key!
FlyingJesus
28-05-2014, 08:38 PM
oh for god sake.
http://carm.org/is-catholicism-christian
Ah right, one church in Idaho believes that believing in Christ is not the same as being a Christian (despite that being the literal definition) and therefore Catholicism shares no traits. And well done ignoring all the other points you're wrong about
Also loving the blasphemous writing in your post lmao, the irony is staggering
Kardan
28-05-2014, 08:40 PM
Well actually yes, we are. Life started out as single cell prokaryotes slowly we evolved from that, to our modern day humans.
So everything is 3.5 billion years of Evolutionary Success
Also Earth is around 4.5 Billion years old, scientists predict it would be around 3.5 billion years ago is when first life was.
My point is, this 'evolutionary success' you speak of, from 3.5 Billion BC to I don't know, say 2000 BC cannot be compared at all to the 'evolutionary success' from say 1900 to the present day.
akeel$
28-05-2014, 08:40 PM
I feel really uncomfortable with this topic tbf.
Was there any reason to post this?
Kardan
28-05-2014, 08:42 PM
FlyingJesus; is your rep power reaching the point where it's increasing every other day? I'm sure your rep power was below 80 last time I checked.
On topic: YEAH! MUSLIMS!!!
Kuybii
28-05-2014, 08:43 PM
Ah right, one church in Idaho believes that believing in Christ is not the same as being a Christian (despite that being the literal definition) and therefore Catholicism shares no traits. And well done ignoring all the other points you're wrong about
Also loving the blasphemous writing in your post lmao, the irony is staggering
One thing i picked up in R.E that sank in around yr 9.
All Catholics are Christians
All Christians are not Catholic.
They have similar beliefs but they are not the same. If you're going to start questioning my religion and what i support, atleast be right about it sir.
Kardan
28-05-2014, 08:43 PM
oh for god sake.
http://carm.org/is-catholicism-christian
Hahaha, you ask if I googled 'Muslim', but you just googled 'Are Catholics Christian?' and picked the top result.
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One thing i picked up in R.E that sank in around yr 9.
All Catholics are Christians
All Christians are not Catholic.
They have similar beliefs but they are not the same. If you're going to start questioning my religion and what i support, atleast be right about it sir.
So you agree then, that the Catholic sex abuse scandal, was committed by Christians? (Literally what I've been saying all thread long!)
Kuybii
28-05-2014, 08:45 PM
Hahaha, you ask if I googled 'Muslim', but you just googled 'Are Catholics Christian?' and picked the top result.
I couldn't be bothered writing everything that was on that specific case? So howelse would you want me to search for something which is so precise to explain to bafoons like yourself the differences between being Catholic and Christian?
Kardan
28-05-2014, 08:46 PM
I couldn't be bothered writing everything that was on that specific case? So howelse would you want me to search for something which is so precise to explain to bafoons like yourself the differences between being Catholic and Christian?
We never asked for the differences, all we said was that Catholics are Christians.
FlyingJesus
28-05-2014, 08:47 PM
One thing i picked up in R.E that sank in around yr 9.
All Catholics are Christians
All Christians are not Catholic.
They have similar beliefs but they are not the same. If you're going to start questioning my religion and what i support, atleast be right about it sir.
My word you really are stupid. You have literally just said what I had said myself: all Catholics are Christians. Not all Muslims are Sunni but all Sunni are Muslims, yet to claim that the religious crime of a Sunni Muslim is nothing to do with Islam because Shia Muslims exist differently wouldn't quite work. I clearly am right about what I said and you just admitted it right after claiming the opposite. You can't even keep up with your own posts let alone anyone else's, so it's no surprise that you're as bigoted and uneducated as you're showing yourself to be
Kuybii
28-05-2014, 08:51 PM
There is Christian religion, and the Catholic religion. They are two seperate religions which share similar beliefs. Clearly aren't right. Are you christian yourself?
But personally, the only reason why we're talking about christian and catholic is because one man, cannot remember who brought i it up that Catholics fiddle kids and i asked for evidence of Christians doing such action. And if i remember rightly, i could be wrong, but it was more predominantly to do with the Vatican in Italy. Nothing to do with the UK. But as i said i could be wrong, i am still awaiting the evidence to appear on my screen. So pls, be quiet.
Kardan
28-05-2014, 08:54 PM
There is Christian religion, and the Catholic religion. They are two seperate religions which share similar beliefs. Clearly aren't right. Are you christian yourself?
But personally, the only reason why we're talking about christian and catholic is because one man, cannot remember brought up that Catholics fiddle kids and i asked for evidence of Christians doing such action. Which i am still yet to have on my screen. So pls, be quiet.
Ohhhhh! Like Islam and Muslim are different religions right??? It all makes sense now.
You just said yourself that Catholics are Christians? So there is evidence of Christian crime.
Kuybii
28-05-2014, 08:56 PM
Okay, aswell as a Christian i am also a Jedi. Does that mean i can inflict crimes under my Jedi religion and not mention that i also support Christianity?
FlyingJesus
28-05-2014, 08:58 PM
There is Christian religion, and the Catholic religion. They are two seperate religions which share similar beliefs. Clearly aren't right. Are you christian yourself?
I used to be, but no there is the Christian religion which can be divided into subsets such a CoE, Catholic, Mormon, Greek Orthodox and a great many others. They are all Christianity, and no one of them is simply named "Christian". I am right. You are a fool.
Kardan
28-05-2014, 08:59 PM
Okay, aswell as a Christian i am also a Jedi. Does that mean i can inflict crimes under my Jedi religion and not mention that i also support Christianity?
Obviously not, because the Jedi High Council forbids it...!
My point is, this 'evolutionary success' you speak of, from 3.5 Billion BC to I don't know, say 2000 BC cannot be compared at all to the 'evolutionary success' from say 1900 to the present day.
Actually what im talking about is how far we have come in our Biological standpoint. Look, from single celled organisms, to ones with 15 Trillion cells. All of the things that have gotten our present form.
Kardan
28-05-2014, 09:04 PM
Actually what im talking about is how far we have come in our Biological standpoint. Look, from single celled organisms, to ones with 15 Trillion cells. All of the things that have gotten our present form.
And how does our 'biological' form have anything to do with 'outdated' laws in parts of the world?
Did i not say in a post about 2 pages ago it is the extremism nature within the Islamic religion which needs to be dealt with and not the Islamic religion itself? The extremists act upon what they deem right from their religion. I have asian friends who are totally wicked sick, if they decided to start blowing things up, then i wouldn't be friends with them right? This whole time you've been pro-islam and have been naive about what goes on within the Islamic communities.
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Same goes to you kiddo. Do it, you've won yourself £100. Wasnt quite exactly what i said but i'll roll with it.
ur the 1 that said that muslims are more likely to be extremists and failed to provide any kind of evidence to suggest that lol. u said if i walked thru bradford with I LOVE CHRISTIANITY and help for heroes merchandise that i'd be decapitated wats that about
im sure we can all agree that we want to deal with extremist behaviour
Kuybii
28-05-2014, 09:06 PM
I used to be, but no there is the Christian religion which can be divided into subsets such a CoE, Catholic, Mormon, Greek Orthodox and a great many others. They are all Christianity, and no one of them is simply named "Christian". I am right. You are a fool.
CoE clearly what i am talking about. Why the *REMOVED* would i be fully fledging Greek Orthodox in the British Isles? The Church of ENGLAND is the religion which is predominant in the UK okay. Going round in circles but we'll get there eventually for you to understand.
The Church of England was/is/will be the main predominant religion in the UK, quite obviously the religion which i have been going on about..(.unless we get ransacked in a world war and our territories are taken over). To allow another religion for it inflict their views on a general wide scale is basically a disgrace to the last 2000 years of English History. Sure, let them in, offer them a seat, let them be welcome, but for then to allow set people to challenge our religion is not right, you be happy with what we have to offer you or you go back home. Simple. You move to a mates house, their parents were serving porridge morning, noon and night, if you dont like it you would just leave right? But instead you decide to take over the house. That is what is slowly imposing on our densely populated muslim communities. Simple terms. Your heritage would have at some point fought and died for the survival of this country in its beliefs and its views or i'm sure mine did. And we're sprouting kids up like you that loves to be so politically correct, you are disillusioned in the sense of looking racist to spend hours on an internet forum how you're so against the English religion. I literally have nothing more to say.
We may aswell just scrap the armed forces, *REMOVED* it. Let everyone in. See how quickly it'll go south.
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ur the 1 that said that muslims are more likely to be extremists and failed to provide any kind of evidence to suggest that lol. u said if i walked thru bradford with I LOVE CHRISTIANITY and help for heroes merchandise that i'd be decapitated wats that about
im sure we can all agree that we want to deal with extremist behaviour
Obviously you didn't take a look at the Daily Mail articles of extremist muslims. Or the case about drummer lee rigby who was decapitated in the streets of london for wearing a help for heroes jumper by a guy apparently acting on behalf of allah.
Edited by Nick (Forum Super Moderator): Please don't avoid the forum filter.
MKR&*42
28-05-2014, 09:11 PM
Erm because you know the religion you follow doesn't necessarily need to have started in the country you live in what...
It's not like you move to Scotland suddenly you can't follow the Church of England's beliefs?
200 million people worldwide follow Greek Orthodox beliefs... I am sure they are not all in Greece............................................ .......................
CoE clearly what i am talking about. Why the *REMOVED* would i be fully fledging Greek Orthodox in the British Isles? The Church of ENGLAND is the religion which is predominant in the UK okay. Going round in circles but we'll get there eventually for you to understand.
The Church of England was/is/will be the main predominant religion in the UK, quite obviously the religion which i have been going on about..(.unless we get ransacked in a world war and our territories are taken over). To allow another religion for it inflict their views on a general wide scale is basically a disgrace to the last 2000 years of English History. Sure, let them in, offer them a seat, let them be welcome, but for then to allow set people to challenge our religion is not right. Your heritage would have at some point fought and died for the survival of this country in its beliefs and its views or i'm sure mine did. And we're sprouting kids up like you that loves to be so politically correct, you are disillusioned in the sense of looking racist to spend hours on an internet forum how you're so against the English religion. I literally have nothing more to say.
We may aswell just scrap the armed forces, *REMOVED* it. Let everyone in. See how quickly it'll go south.
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Obviously you didn't take a look at the Daily Mail articles of extremist muslims. Or the case about drummer lee rigby who was decapitated in the streets of london for wearing a help for heroes jumper by a guy apparently acting on behalf of allah.
obviously im fully aware that there are extremists of all kinds and that they are a tiny minority of ppl from the total population. im also aware that these aren't frequent or common occurrences :S
posting 6 articles of muslim extremism doesnt mean that muslims are more likely to be violent or responsible for extremist behaviour does it :S
Kuybii
28-05-2014, 09:14 PM
Erm because you know the religion you follow doesn't necessarily need to have started in the country you live in what...
It's not like you move to Scotland suddenly you can't follow the Church of England's beliefs?
200 million people worldwide follow Greek Orthodox beliefs... I am sure they are not all in Greece............................................ .......................
I am 210% not saying that. I have WELCOMED Islamic religion on this post if you've been following it. But for it to then be level playing field with the homecrowd religion for me is where i have my differences. The homecrowd religion should never ever feel like it has to compete with an external religion which has come in, within the past 50 years.
2000yrs worth of religion.
50 yrs worth of religion.
Which religion DESERVES to be predominant?
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obviously im fully aware that there are extremists of all kinds and that they are a tiny minority of ppl from the total population. im also aware that these aren't frequent or common occurrences :S
posting 6 articles of muslim extremism doesnt mean that muslims are more likely to be violent or responsible for extremist behaviour does it :S
Does it not? But regardless to that fact that wasn't the original question. The original question was that there are more, lets say, convienient acts of crime and terrorism/extremism amongst the islamic religion than there is in the christian. And plus, like the articles state....(there are more, plenty more, they're just the most mainstream which i was sure you've heard about), those acts of violence WERE encouraged by religion.
How can you state that these are not common occurances? Do your research on Muslim sex trafficking and grooming gangs and tell me it isn't a common occurrence. Or a common occurrence of the use of explosives.
Kardan
28-05-2014, 09:19 PM
I am 210% not saying that. I have WELCOMED Islamic religion on this post if you've been following it. But for it to then be level playing field with the homecrowd religion for me is where i have my differences. The homecrowd religion should never ever feel like it has to compete with an external religion which has come in, within the past 50 years.
2000yrs worth of religion.
50 yrs worth of religion.
Which religion DESERVES to be predominant?
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Does it not? But regardless to that fact that wasn't the original question. The original question was that there are more, lets say, convienient acts of crime and terrorism/extremism amongst the islamic religion than there is in the christian. And plus, like the articles state....(there are more, plenty more, they're just the most mainstream which i was sure you've heard about), those acts of violence WERE encouraged by religion.
You do realise that UKIP aren't going to eject the Muslims out of the country... And that if anything the number of Muslims coming into the country will barely fall when UKIP controls EU immigration. Actually, if any religion is going to have less members coming into the UK from immigration, it's going to be Christianity.
MKR&*42
28-05-2014, 09:20 PM
I am 210% not saying that. I have WELCOMED Islamic religion on this post if you've been following it. But for it to then be level playing field with the homecrowd religion for me is where i have my differences. The homecrowd religion should never ever feel like it has to compete with an external religion which has come in, within the past 50 years.
2000yrs worth of religion.
50 yrs worth of religion.
Which religion DESERVES to be predominant?
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Does it not? But regardless to that fact that wasn't the original question. The original question was that there are more, lets say, convienient acts of crime and terrorism/extremism amongst the islamic religion than there is in the christian. And plus, like the articles state....(there are more, plenty more, they're just the most mainstream which i was sure you've heard about), those acts of violence WERE encouraged by religion.
I actually said it because;
hy the f*** would i be fully fledging Greek Orthodox in the British Isles?
You were stating it as if it was some complete impossibility, which it is not and that is a very narrow minded view to adopt.
lemons
28-05-2014, 09:21 PM
IF I WANT TO EAT HALAL THEN I WILL EAT IT NOW BACK OFF OR ELSE
Kardan
28-05-2014, 09:22 PM
I am 210% not saying that. I have WELCOMED Islamic religion on this post if you've been following it. But for it to then be level playing field with the homecrowd religion for me is where i have my differences. The homecrowd religion should never ever feel like it has to compete with an external religion which has come in, within the past 50 years.
2000yrs worth of religion.
50 yrs worth of religion.
Which religion DESERVES to be predominant?
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Does it not? But regardless to that fact that wasn't the original question. The original question was that there are more, lets say, convienient acts of crime and terrorism/extremism amongst the islamic religion than there is in the christian. And plus, like the articles state....(there are more, plenty more, they're just the most mainstream which i was sure you've heard about), those acts of violence WERE encouraged by religion.
How can you state that these are not common occurances? Do your research on Muslim sex trafficking and grooming gangs and tell me it isn't a common occurrence. Or a common occurrence of the use of explosives.
Actually, no, you are right here. I see Muslims blowing themselves up everyday in the UK.
Kuybii
28-05-2014, 09:23 PM
You do realise that UKIP aren't going to eject the Muslims out of the country... And that if anything the number of Muslims coming into the country will barely fall when UKIP controls EU immigration. Actually, if any religion is going to have less members coming into the UK from immigration, it's going to be Christianity.
Have i said i want muslims out of the country? No? Have i said i want the extremism eradicated out of their religion? Yes. Please, if you're going to continue, atleast re-read the posts.
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I actually said it because;
You were stating it as if it was some complete impossibility, which it is not and that is a very narrow minded view to adopt.
It isn't narrowminded in the slightest my friend. If it came up on who wants to be a millionaire, Which is the national religion of England. The Church of England or the Greek Orthodox. I would probably punt for CoE. Douche.
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IF I WANT TO EAT HALAL THEN I WILL EAT IT NOW BACK OFF OR ELSE
I'm fine with Halal meat. If you wanna kill an animal in a different way and for it to be blessed and s***, be my guest.
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Actually, no, you are right here. I see Muslims blowing themselves up everyday in the UK.
Did you know statistics by the gvt's website suggest that black people are actually more prone to use guns than white people? Madness isn't it.
karter
28-05-2014, 09:26 PM
My only real concern here is for the women obviously but its the fact it is all a subject based on religion. We have prisons full, too full infact of white british males who fiddle with kids, kill, steal, thieve etc, but out of that percentage could you say they have performed their actions/crimes through religion, personally i definitely think it'd be 0.0000003%. As a white male British, UKIP voter, i do not have any problem what so ever with the colour of your skin or where you come from, its the sheer length you are willing to go to fullfil this religious codswollop. I don't want to sound uneducated but every asian person who supports whichever religion, there is crime and brutality that comes with it. Apart from the rednecks that live in the trees in America, how many christians have gone onto commit horrendous crimes to primarily fulfil there religious beliefs. This is why we have a problem. Not because your black, white, yellow, blue, green or red, i say it again and i am positive i speak for thousands, we just have a problem with your religion.
Are you intentionally this dense or...
You start by acknowledging that prisons are filled by white british males but they're apparently not the problem but it's those religious darkies !!
"I don't want to sound uneducated"... well too bad, you are uneducated. I mean you've got SOME nerve telling asians that their religions are violent simultaneously forgetting the fact that...Christianity ...originated in ....Asia....largest number of christians live where??? Again.......Asia.......Christian extremism continues to exist.....not just in America.............
(Also, are you aware of the other continents or is this another logic of yours that every non-christian = Asian?)
What's 'supporting' a religion anyway? What are asian religions? are you labelling religions to continents now? Are you ready to compare 'asian' religions (ie. all major religions in the world) with Christianity (again an 'Asian' religion) What point are you even trying to make when you refuse to analyze and ignore centuries of Christian extremism and then forming judgement reading **** literally affecting other people and making opinions according to your own ****** vague criteria
Quit the victim complex and the unnecessary sympathy with oppressed muslim women, what they need and what they ask for is other muslim women helping them not any other religious fanatic and literally nobody asked for your opinion on religions and cultures especially regarding Asia
https://31.media.tumblr.com/4ed4dbb26272164f45b9b2bf9794ebb7/tumblr_inline_n5v6bymlnu1soma0j.gif
MKR&*42
28-05-2014, 09:26 PM
Have i said i want muslims out of the country? No? Have i said i want the extremism eradicated out of their religion? Yes. Please, if you're going to continue, atleast re-read the posts.
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It isn't narrowminded in the slightest my friend. If it came up on who wants to be a millionaire, Which is the national religion of England. The Church of England or the Greek Orthodox. I would probably put for CoE.
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I'm fine with Hilal meat. If you wanna kill an animal in a different way and for it to be blessed and s***, be my guest.
Again, you are completely missing the point. You were not asked what the main religion of England was, you were questioned as to whether you are a Greek Orthodox. Questioning why the **** a person who lives in the UK would follow Greek Orthodox values at all = narrow minded.
Kuybii
28-05-2014, 09:29 PM
Are you intentionally this dense or...
You start by acknowledging that prisons are filled by white british males but they're apparently not the problem but it's those religious darkies !!
"I don't want to sound uneducated"... well too bad, you are uneducated. I mean you've got SOME nerve telling asians that their religions are violent simultaneously forgetting the fact that...Christianity ...originated in ....Asia....largest number of christians live where??? Again.......Asia.......Christian extremism continues to exist.....not just in America.............
(Also, are you aware of the other continents or is this another logic of yours that every non-christian = Asian?)
What's 'supporting' a religion anyway? What are asian religions? are you labelling religions to continents now? Are you ready to compare 'asian' religions (ie. all major religions in the world) with Christianity (again an 'Asian' religion) What point are you even trying to make when you refuse to analyze and ignore centuries of Christian extremism and then forming judgement reading **** literally affecting other people and making opinions according to your own ****** vague criteria
Quit the victim complex and the unnecessary sympathy with oppressed muslim women, what they need and what they ask for is other muslim women helping them not any other religious fanatic and literally nobody asked for your opinion on religions and cultures especially regarding Asia
https://31.media.tumblr.com/4ed4dbb26272164f45b9b2bf9794ebb7/tumblr_inline_n5v6bymlnu1soma0j.gif
I have explained myself on the thread my friend. If you would please like to go through the 10 pages before you even attempt to start digging into me you sincere douchebag. I didn't even bother reading the atrocity of your post after i read the first line.
notice how kuybii didnt reply to my post when i said i was a muslim
racist
Kardan
28-05-2014, 09:31 PM
I'm so glad karter appeared.
Kuybii
28-05-2014, 09:31 PM
Again, you are completely missing the point. You were not asked what the main religion of England was, you were questioned as to whether you are a Greek Orthodox. Questioning why the **** a person who lives in the UK would follow Greek Orthodox values at all = narrow minded.
Wrong again. I said why would I be fully fledging Greek Orthodox.
Kardan
28-05-2014, 09:34 PM
Did you know statistics by the gvt's website suggest that black people are actually more prone to use guns than white people? Madness isn't it.
I did know that black people are more likely to be convicted of firearm offences, yes. Not entirely sure how that's relevant to this discussion though.
MKR&*42
28-05-2014, 09:37 PM
Wrong again. I said why would I be fully fledging Greek Orthodox.
Wrong again, you missed out "in the British isles". Almost as if the religion you follow changes if you move country.
Hi guys can't follow Greek Orthodox values as I live in Poland.
Did you know statistics by the gvt's website suggest that black people are actually more prone to use guns than white people? Madness isn't it.
Excuse u. Look at Soviet Amurika. All them mofos got guns.
Yes I've used guns before, and I've taken the cource and passed, so once im 18, I can legally buy myself a Rifle and shotgun, if I so choose (Which ofc I will, cuz this boy wants some Deer Meat :D) Coming from Cunukistan, we have to take a FAC (Firearms Acquisition Cource) so we can buy no restricted Firearms (Rifles, Shotguns), which is a 10 hour cource and a written and practical test. Another 10 hour cource and tests if I wished to get restricted guns (Handguns and some higher powered rifles and modified guns).
Anyways. Ye.
karter
28-05-2014, 09:40 PM
Your posts in this thread summed up
1. Christianity originated in England. Later changed to "Christianity the original religion of UK"
2. Sharia Law is oppressive (shallow judgement but okay)
3. Islam is violent x100. All asian religions too.
4. Dailymail articles as 'evidence'. Refused to provide anymore as they were 'popular pieces of evidence'
5. Retracting statement, said Islam is not violent
6. Kardan go back to school I can't argue with you anymore
7. Confusion between being Catholic and Christian
Kuybii
28-05-2014, 09:41 PM
Excuse u. Look at Soviet Amurika. All them mofos got guns.
Yes I've used guns before, and I've taken the cource and passed, so once im 18, I can legally buy myself a Rifle and shotgun, if I so choose (Which ofc I will, cuz this boy wants some Deer Meat :D) Coming from Cunukistan, we have to take a FAC (Firearms Acquisition Cource) so we can buy no restricted Firearms (Rifles, Shotguns), which is a 10 hour cource and a written and practical test. Another 10 hour cource and tests if I wished to get restricted guns (Handguns and some higher powered rifles and modified guns).
Anyways. Ye.
I wanna live where you live. If your cought with a water pistol in a holster in England you're on the fast track to the police station.
Excuse u. Look at Soviet Amurika. All them mofos got guns.
Yes I've used guns before, and I've taken the cource and passed, so once im 18, I can legally buy myself a Rifle and shotgun, if I so choose (Which ofc I will, cuz this boy wants some Deer Meat :D) Coming from Cunukistan, we have to take a FAC (Firearms Acquisition Cource) so we can buy no restricted Firearms (Rifles, Shotguns), which is a 10 hour cource and a written and practical test. Another 10 hour cource and tests if I wished to get restricted guns (Handguns and some higher powered rifles and modified guns).
Anyways. Ye.
cource
I wanna live where you live. If your cought with a water pistol in a holster in England you're on the fast track to the police station.
If you point a gun, or a fake gun at someone, you can be sent to prison for like 10 years. (excluding if your like hunting and they pop up and such.)
Also your not allowed to have anything that looks like a gun but isn't, totally illegal, not sure on the sentence or fine.
Water are brightly coloured, so don't know why you would get sent to the pig station.
Anyways welcome to Canuckistan*
Kuybii
28-05-2014, 09:48 PM
Your posts in this thread summed up
1. Christianity originated in England. Later changed to "Christianity the original religion of UK"
2. Sharia Law is oppressive (shallow judgement but okay)
3. Islam is violent x100. All asian religions too.
4. Dailymail articles as 'evidence'. Refused to provide anymore as they were 'popular pieces of evidence'
5. Retracting statement, said Islam is not violent
6. Kardan go back to school I can't argue with you anymore
7. Confusion between being Catholic and Christian
Okay! So! Your probably right, i got to yr 9 with RE and decided to call it a day. I wrongly presumed England was the birth place of Christianity.
I havent said Islam is x100 violent. I have said it is the religion where extremists are more in number than in any other religion. My popular articles prove that.
The Dailymail evidence were cases which have been covered, seen justice for and that was goodnight.
I was referring being CoE, something which i should've established earlier. I generally thought whoever the dicsussions were if i was so pro-england/english religion i would have been referring to CoE. Obviously not. I don't believe in all of the religious beliefs which Catholics do, which mormons do, which apparently the Greek Orthodox do, so that makes me a proud Christian CoE.
Kardan
28-05-2014, 09:49 PM
Dragga and Kuybii, a match made in heaven.
Or should I say a match made in Jannah.
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Okay! So! Your probably right, i got to yr 9 with RE and decided to call it a day. I wrongly presumed England was the birth place of Christianity.
I havent said Islam is x100 violent. I have said it is the religion where extremists are more in number than in any other religion. My popular articles prove that.
The Dailymail evidence were cases which have been covered, seen justice for and that was goodnight.
I was referring being CoE, something which i should've established earlier. I generally thought whoever the dicsussions were if i was so pro-england/english religion i would have been referring to CoE. Obviously not. I don't believe in all of the religious beliefs which Catholics do, which mormons do, which apparently the Greek Orthodox do, so that makes me a proud Christian CoE.
Not entirely sure you grasp the concept of 'proof'.
not Kuybii; thinking england is the birthplace of Christianity what kind of mess i didn't even see that till now
the thought of dragga being able to own a gun terrifies me
this whole thread is just mind numbing
Kardan
28-05-2014, 09:53 PM
not Kuybii; thinking england is the birthplace of Christianity what kind of mess i didn't even see that till now
Do you not remember the part in the Bible that talks about Jesus going around Bradford with a 'I love Christianity' T-Shirt on?
Do you not remember the part in the Bible that talks about Jesus going around Bradford with a 'I love Christianity' T-Shirt on?
mary traveled from cornwall to liverpool to give birth
Kuybii
28-05-2014, 09:54 PM
Do you not remember the part in the Bible that talks about Jesus going around Bradford with a 'I love Christianity' T-Shirt on?
That would have been soooooooooo funny if thats what i had actually said. Wow. Done with children today. Goodnight.
That would have been soooooooooo funny if thats what i had actually said. Wow. Done with children today. Goodnight.
Children who know more than you
FlyingJesus
28-05-2014, 10:04 PM
CoE clearly what i am talking about. Why the f*** would i be fully fledging Greek Orthodox in the British Isles? The Church of ENGLAND is the religion which is predominant in the UK okay. Going round in circles but we'll get there eventually for you to understand.
I'm not the one lacking in understanding - I'm pretty sure my HE level theology studies trump your year 9 RE lessons and you've been shown time and time again to be making false statements of a dangerous nature. Don't argue with scholars when you're a pleb.
The Church of England was/is/will be the main predominant religion in the UK, quite obviously the religion which i have been going on about..(.unless we get ransacked in a world war and our territories are taken over). To allow another religion for it inflict their views on a general wide scale is basically a disgrace to the last 2000 years of English History.
You don't even know the history that you're pretending to defend. It's actually about 1000 years that Christianity has been the ruling religion in England, and the reformed Church of England only became separate from Catholicism in 1534. The British Isles had many other religions for several thousands of years longer than CoE has ruled the area, and your "BUT WE DUN FINGS FOR A LONG TIME" point of view is not only hideously uneducated but damaging to society.
We may aswell just scrap the armed forces, f*** it. Let everyone in. See how quickly it'll go south.
You... you do know that the army isn't stationed on the beaches driving away boats of immigrants, right?
2000yrs worth of religion.
50 yrs worth of religion.
Which religion DESERVES to be predominant?
It's actually more like 500 years vs 300 years, and neither DESERVES to be a dominant religion over another since religion isn't a forced affair in this country. We are legally a CoE country but we also have legal freedom of religion.
I don't believe in all of the religious beliefs which Catholics do, which mormons do, which apparently the Greek Orthodox do, so that makes me a proud Christian CoE.
What do you actually believe? You don't seem to really know anything about your country or your religion (or any of the other denominations of it which you so fanatically deny), so you may well be following fully the teachings of Anton LaVey for all you're aware.
Loook at what I started :D
OT: Religion makes good people think its ok to do bad things.
Bad people will always be bad.
karter
28-05-2014, 10:07 PM
Loook at what I started :D
OT: Religion makes good people think its ok to do bad things.
Bad people will always be bad.
shut up
Kardan
28-05-2014, 10:08 PM
That would have been soooooooooo funny if thats what i had actually said. Wow. Done with children today. Goodnight.
Means you're not done with me then :D
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Loook at what I started :D
OT: Religion makes good people think its ok to do bad things.
Bad people will always be bad.
So the people that are committing these crimes, are actually good people?
FlyingJesus
28-05-2014, 10:11 PM
What about non-religious people who do bad things like spreading dangerous fiction which can be proved incorrect with 5 minutes of reading and promoting it as though it were fact
Racism in the UK Statistics and all that ****. Enjoy.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/may/27/-sp-racism-on-rise-in-britain
The Don
29-05-2014, 02:02 AM
There will always be good and bad people. Religion gives good people reasons to do bad things (Inturn making them bad people)
I know you're just a kid but stop writing absolute rubbish and think about what you're saying before posting such utter tripe. If people do bad things they are not good people.
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I dont know what more evidence you want, i have provided you with the most popular pieces of evidence because i couldn't be bothered digging for more and more lower cased/less popular articles? People have been given jail sentences, photos taken of such crimes, what other evidence is there which i can provide you? This is what i call naivety at the very very best. Yup. Everyone is perfect. Bored of this now, its like headbutting a brick wall over and over. It's people like you that have ended up being SO scared of being classed as racist or not proud/strong enough to stand up for personal beliefs, you'd rather drink up the gvt's bull about being politically correct - the type of person that has conformed to the idea that we can no longer sing baa baa black sheep to our kids becuase its considered racist. Or maybe your a child and in schools its what theyre practicing now so it might not technically be your fault...
Ah dunno.
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Your turn. Provide me with the same-level amount of evidence (prison sentences/law cases) which i have provided you with Christians fiddling kids in Catholic monasteries
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and this is probably your most stupid yet mate. Have a think pal. I dunno, stick your head outside and get a bit of fresh air. Your trying to manipulate what i've said into something you support. I clearly didn't say every single asian person who practices homeland religion inflicts crime and brutality on a day-to-day basis.
1.6 Billion Muslims in the world and you think 6 Daily Mail articles (lol) is good enough of a sample size to serve as evidence that Islam is inherently bad. Moron.
[QUOTE=The Don;8195100]I know you're just a kid but stop writing absolute rubbish and think about what you're saying before posting such utter tripe. If people do bad things they are not good people.
Of cource... once they commit it, they arn't good people.
The Don
02-06-2014, 06:41 PM
[QUOTE=The Don;8195100]I know you're just a kid but stop writing absolute rubbish and think about what you're saying before posting such utter tripe. If people do bad things they are not good people.
Of cource... once they commit it, they arn't good people.
A good person won't do something bad because of religion. A person that does something bad because of religion is a crap person to start with.
Becca
02-06-2014, 10:58 PM
beeeeennnnnpeeee, dynamiteeeee
you lot need to calm down
i didn't even read the rest of the thread so if you're being racist stop
there is bound to be racism around dragga so
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