Who stole the theatredome?

[Michael]

Early this morning, theatredome public furni started appearing on the marketplace. From theatre plants, to one-spaced blackholes - it seems as if one of the theatredomes had been pickedall. Many users have already brought pieces of the furniture off the marketplace, with others showing it off in showcase rooms, although I wouldn't recommend this. This thread is to discuss who, why & how this happened.

http://oi61.tinypic.com/f2n8mt.jpg

[lemons]

awesome i wanna buy some

[Matt]

interesting. No doubt when staff catch on they'll make sure everything goes back to normal.

[GoldenMerc]

I want the chairs :o

[Michael]

Seems WaltzMatilda's clone - Arncliff had a copy of the habboween theatredome and that account got hacked. Unsure though.

[Scotland]

furni has been removed from the accounts.
If you d/c then it will be gone (only if you had).


seems not all accounts

[:odey:]

Does anyone know if the people that bought it out of the market place etc got the credits they used to buy it, back, or have they just lost the item they bought and the credits?

[Scotland]

Does anyone know if the people that bought it out of the market place etc got the credits they used to buy it, back, or have they just lost the item they bought and the credits?
all mine was removed and i got nothing back.

[Lewis]

aww

I was thinking this was going to be a new competition/quest by staff, 'who stole the theatredome?'

[sex]

http://i.gyazo.com/7642a0e97580c586fb3fde2acac2fc93.png

Wondered why this isin catalg

[Brad]

aww

I was thinking this was going to be a new competition/quest by staff, 'who stole the theatredome?'

That would be fun.

[sex]

Early this morning, theatredome public furni started appearing on the marketplace. From theatre plants, to one-spaced blackholes - it seems as if one of the theatredomes had been pickedall. Many users have already brought pieces of the furniture off the marketplace, with others showing it off in showcase rooms, although I wouldn't recommend this. This thread is to discuss who, why & how this happened.

http://oi61.tinypic.com/f2n8mt.jpg

is that black smoke unreleased?

[Scotland]

Just been told I'll be getting my credits back soon. (ones i used to buy the furni with)

[GoldenMerc]

http://tashload.com/Uploader/uploads//f2sW4C3.png

Oops, It isn't clickable any more though?
Room URL;
http://www.habbo.com/room/31590225

[sex]

Is the guy gonna be permed hes openly bragging and got lots of gb from it!

[kovsky]

I love it when stuff like this happens.

[GoldenMerc]

Is the guy gonna be permed hes openly bragging and got lots of gb from it!

http://tashload.com/Uploader/uploads//EBCpetJ.png

I bought two pieces, only one appeared tho?

[Scotland]

http://tashload.com/Uploader/uploads//EBCpetJ.png

I bought two pieces, only one appeared tho?
some has been removed. so some in mp is not really in mp.

[GoldenMerc]

some has been removed. so some in mp is not really in mp.

so i bought, virtual, virtual furniture god damn

[MKR&*42]

If you bought any you don't deserve your credits back, you knew exactly what you were doing (and that it was 'wrong') therefore you shouldn't be entitled to a refund.

Either way, interesting ...

[Kyle]

is that black smoke unreleased?
http://puu.sh/9hvbw.png
no.

i would buy a chair if i got to keep it but the rest is ugly

[Storking]

well they got this stuff back quickly

never mind if thrones, dinos and typos are released ~ bugger them!

[GoldenMerc]

well they got this stuff back quickly

never mind if thrones, dinos and typos are released ~ bugger them!

They haven't got them back, I've still got mine.

[Absently]

aww

I was thinking this was going to be a new competition/quest by staff, 'who stole the theatredome?'
LMAO that's exactly what i thought so i wasn't bothered to look at thread

[Yawn]

o i c

yes i understand now v kl and funny

[Hawaii5.O]

There are trade logs, they can trace all the furni that's left the original account. Wouldn't be a good idea to buy any of the pieces as it may result in a perm ban or they'll be removed from your account.

[Scotland]

Marketplace purchases should be refunded.

[Daltron]

This would actually be a pretty good campaign haha.


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[xxMATTGxx]

They haven't got them back, I've still got mine.

They will now seeing as you have posted it pubically :P

[GoldenMerc]

They will now seeing as you have posted it pubically :P

NO THEY ******* TOOK IT

[Mr-Trainor]

If you bought any you don't deserve your credits back, you knew exactly what you were doing (and that it was 'wrong') therefore you shouldn't be entitled to a refund.

Either way, interesting ...
I'm sure there are some people who bought them innocently thinking they were new furni or something :P.

[MKR&*42]

I'm sure there are some people who bought them innocently thinking they were new furni or something :P.

Potentially a handful, but I still imagine the vast majority didn't :P

[Chrisbud1]

What about habbo's that saw it at the top of the marketplace list and decided to buy it, knowing nothing about what was going on? After all, this IS habbo's fault for not keeping accounts safe, as always. How many times has a staff account been hacked this year? Because I lost count.

[MKR&*42]

Oh no someone decided to hack someone else's account, we MUST BLAME THE ACCOUNT OWNER!!!! wtf

No seriously A) It's quite obvious Waltz didn't go "oh hey everyone have my clone's password!11!" and B) If the account was somehow genuinely hacked then I doubt you can go instantly blame Sulake - no system is ever going to be 100 pcnt safe from hacks.
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Still stand by that no-one deserves a refund. The Credits are still Sulake's property based on the T & Cs everyone has agreed to, so just dont refund them and let them have a whine despite the fact they can do nothing about it hahahahha.

[Reality]

No doubt when staff find the users with the furni they'll just ban them until 2025 like with the diamond duck!

[Fluffy]

I purchased 18 theatre_carpets for 5c each and Waltz refunded me 90 credits an hour later.

[HABBZ-0]

That explains all the random **** i've been seeing on mp today. Staff getting hacked seems to be a common uccurance on habbo nowadays.

[GoldenMerc]

Oh no someone decided to hack someone else's account, we MUST BLAME THE ACCOUNT OWNER!!!! wtf

No seriously A) It's quite obvious Waltz didn't go "oh hey everyone have my clone's password!11!" and B) If the account was somehow genuinely hacked then I doubt you can go instantly blame Sulake - no system is ever going to be 100 pcnt safe from hacks.
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Still stand by that no-one deserves a refund. The Credits are still Sulake's property based on the T & Cs everyone has agreed to, so just dont refund them and let them have a whine despite the fact they can do nothing about it hahahahha.

Well actually 95% of the time it is the account owners fault, The 5% is when Housekeeping has been hacked;
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=77463&highlight=callie+hacked

Although, If HK is hacked, Sulake's security is to blame. Any other case's its actually the owners responsibility to keep their account secure.

[MKR&*42]

Well actually 95% of the time it is the account owners fault, The 5% is when Housekeeping has been hacked;
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=77463&highlight=callie+hacked

Although, If HK is hacked, Sulake's security is to blame. Any other case's its actually the owners responsibility to keep their account secure.

So there is the possibility it's WaltzMatilda herself and not Sulake in general?

I can't win either way but I dont wanna jump on the 'hey lets all blame sulake straight away' bandwagon this time :P

[lRhyss]

At the end of the day it is HER fault, she should have account's with perms/staff furni under lockdown

[GoldenMerc]

So there is the possibility it's WaltzMatilda herself and not Sulake in general?

I can't win either way but I dont wanna jump on the 'hey lets all blame sulake straight away' bandwagon this time :P


At the end of the day it is HER fault, she should have account's with perms/staff furni under lockdown

Surely staff should have no trading pass's anyway? Why do they actually need them...

[MKR&*42]

Surely staff should have no trading pass's anyway? Why do they actually need them...

That's actually a very valid point...

[lRhyss]

Surely staff should have no trading pass's anyway? Why do they actually need them...
If they do that's Sulakes biggest **** up yet.

If you don't have a trading pass, can you not post in the MP?

This one deserves a staff mention Macklebee

[jorsian]

Interesting. I'm sure some of it is still in circulation. Lately the security on this site has really gone down the tubes. Staff seem to be hacked left and right and, most of the time, don't know what to do about it. It's sort of sad and funny how unprofessional this all is.

[e5]

Potentially a handful, but I still imagine the vast majority didn't :P

Doesn't mean they shouldn't get their coins back lmfao

[MKR&*42]

Doesn't mean they shouldn't get their coins back lmfao

Yes it does in my own opinion. If the small handful who accidentally bought it are upset they cant get their coins back, then they should have a go at the majority who knew exactly it was wrong. Life's tough.

[e5]

Yes it does in my own opinion. If the small handful who accidentally bought it are upset they cant get their coins back, then they should have a go at the majority who knew exactly it was wrong. Life's tough.

If it's for sale that's habbos fault, not the user. They simple remove the furniture and refund the coins... It's not a case of life is tough or they should know, because it's habbos fault.

[MKR&*42]

If it's for sale that's habbos fault, not the user. They simple remove the furniture and refund the coins... It's not a case of life is tough or they should know, because it's habbos fault.

Not Habbos fault it's ''for sale''. Waltz didn't say ''hey come put my furniture on the marketplace!"" did she now.

[e5]

Not Habbos fault it's ''for sale''. Waltz didn't say ''hey come put my furniture on the marketplace!"" did she now.

No, but they failed to keep their accounts safe. They also didn't say 'hey don't buy any drome furni' either, so no one was to know.

[MKR&*42]

No, but they failed to keep their accounts safe. They also didn't say 'hey don't buy any drome furni' either, so no one was to know.

Ofc it's either Waltz's/Sulakes fault for the account security. But just because you know how to access an account, does not A) give you the right to do so or B) automatically mean you can place furniture on the marketplace? Sulake never intended for it to go on sale.

Hey guys am gonna go rob a bank via a bomb threat and use the money to buy drugs, it's the bank's fault because they should secure themselves more against criminals [p.s. the security they have at the moment is as good as it gets]. Absolutely not the criminal's fault in any way shape or form. Overexaggerated example but you understand the point.

[Michael]

The suspect must've trawled through her personal profiles in order to obtain clues to hack the account. Security wouldn't be the best on her alt because it was her non-staff account, and had nothing apart from a copied theatredome she probably forgot was on there.

I've seen a lot of people arguing over whether players should have got a full refund, personally I believe the only people who would have brought this furniture would have been people informed of it being on the marketplace and the event taking place - not innocent Habbos. I mean, its very unlikely someone is to search theatre_ on the marketplace and innocently buy a piece without knowing about the situation.

[MKR&*42]

The suspect must've trawled through her personal profiles in order to obtain clues to hack the account. Security wouldn't be the best on her alt because it was her non-staff account, and had nothing apart from a copied theatredome she probably forgot was on there.

I've seen a lot of people arguing over whether players should have got a full refund, personally I believe the only people who would have brought this furniture would have been people informed of it being on the marketplace and the event taking place - not innocent Habbos. I mean, its very unlikely someone is to search theatre_ on the marketplace and innocently buy a piece without knowing about the situation.

That is an incredibly valid point lmao. Also, how long was it available for? Because I doubt a gigantic mass newbies would have all suddenly realised these amazing new furnis if it was only up for an hour.

[Michael]

That is an incredibly valid point lmao. Also, how long was it available for? Because I doubt a gigantic mass newbies would have all suddenly realised these amazing new furnis if it was only up for an hour.

Few hours, most of it was brought out by a few users though. I think people were more inclined to keep it rather than sell it on to newbs.

[e5]

Ofc it's either Waltz's/Sulakes fault for the account security. But just because you know how to access an account, does not A) give you the right to do so or B) automatically mean you can place furniture on the marketplace? Sulake never intended for it to go on sale.

Hey guys am gonna go rob a bank via a bomb threat and use the money to buy drugs, it's the bank's fault because they should secure themselves more against criminals [p.s. the security they have at the moment is as good as it gets]. Absolutely not the criminal's fault in any way shape or form. Overexaggerated example but you understand the point.

So you rob and bank and spend the money on DFS sofas. Some one buys it and is technically handling stolen goods. Should their hard earnt money spent on the sofas not be refunded and the sofas taken away with nothing left to show?

[MKR&*42]

So you rob and bank and spend the money on DFS sofas. Some one buys it and is technically handling stolen goods. Should their hard earnt money spent on the sofas not be refunded and the sofas taken away with nothing left to show?

The sofa is not a stolen good, the money is? It doesn't matter if it was bought with stolen money, that doesn't make the sofa any less real.

[e5]

The sofa is not a stolen good, the money is? It doesn't matter if it was bought with stolen money, that doesn't make the sofa any less real.

The sofa is bought with stolen money therefore the sofas were never legitimately bought and have to be returned. For a refund

[MKR&*42]

The sofa is bought with stolen money therefore the sofas were never legitimately bought and have to be returned. For a refund

If someone buys the sofa from him with their legitimate money, then there is no need to issue a refund dependant upon the price the sofa was resold for, but instead DFS need to return the stolen money to the bank.

I have just realised this is going so far off course in par with what act happened on Habbo.
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Im legit jus gonna finalise myself and repeat what ive said. Majority of people knew they were buying stuff that shouldn't have been released, they knew it was wrong and knew they shouldn't have bought it. Simply knowing what you're doing is wrong deserves enough punishment. Just because an error happens it does not give you automatic right to exploit it. No-one deserves a refund.

there im done im sick of posting so much in this thread jfc

[e5]

If someone buys the sofa from him with their legitimate money, then there is no need to issue a refund dependant upon the price the sofa was resold for.

DFS are gonna want real money or their sofas back though aren't they, so who loses

[MKR&*42]

DFS are gonna want real money or their sofas back though aren't they, so who loses

Read my above final post (sorry i didnt edit quick enough). DFS effectively lose out but the thief also gets punished. >>>> compare to Habbo>>> the 'hacker' should get punished and anyone who bought/"accepted" the stolen goods (even if you apparently were completely unaware of it somehow..) lose out.

/END ALL RESPONSES BY ME

[e5]

Read my above final post (sorry i didnt edit quick enough). DFS effectively lose out but the thief also gets punished. >>>> compare to Habbo>>> the 'hacker' should get punished and anyone who bought/"accepted" the stolen goods (even if you apparently were completely unaware of it somehow..) lose out.

/END ALL RESPONSES BY ME
Shouldn't not get their money back though lol.

[Plebings]

habbos should be issued a refund for what they have paid through the marketplace/trading. it was visible in the marketplace, and even if you heard about it, doesn't mean you're aware of it being stolen. it was publicly available and i have bought "glitched" furni in the past like the sf_walls just to see what it looks like, same if you bought the recent picnic swing.

if an online shop put up goods for the wrong price, i'm sure news would spread about the item being a bargain. the shop would either respect the deal or refund the money without sending the product. they wouldn't take their money and argue it was clearly due to an pricing error and you deserve to lose out for attempting to "scam" them.

people buying these obviously wanted to be part of this "drama" and own something rare and unique, who can blame them for buying it?

[Reality]

I do agree with Alex Habbo shouldn't not refund or issue some sort of conter-refund because the Habbos could be unaware of the situation or knowing about it but not knowing about the furni they bought!

[Chrisbud1]

Guys you all need to stop. If this were another company they would take responsibility and not cause any dilemma and respectfully return the credits to their users. But since this is Habbo, they want to put the blame on the users the same exact way they did with the mute. There's nothing else to it.


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[akeel$]

wow that sucks.

[usanme123]

Anyone knows who did this?

Much people are thinking lustry did this

[akeel$]

Is it restored now btw guys?
Or is it still like that. I haven't went to check.

[!x!dude!x!2]

Anyone knows who did this?

Much people are thinking lustry did this

Words going around that Molf is involved and is now Perm Banned

[Mr-Trainor]

Surely staff should have no trading pass's anyway? Why do they actually need them...
I can't see any reason why they would, as they usually send prizes as gifts which I assume you can do without a trading pass?

Yes it does in my own opinion. If the small handful who accidentally bought it are upset they cant get their coins back, then they should have a go at the majority who knew exactly it was wrong. Life's tough.
If a TV is accidentally for sale at £20 instead of £200 and loads of people buy them, you're not going to suddenly have your TV taken away from you as well as losing your £20. Having said that, Habbo furniture credits etc is virtual and owned by Sulake with no monetary value, there's nothing saying they have to reimburse those who purchased theatre_ furniture from the marketplace but that doesn't determine whether it'd be the right thing to do or not.

Ofc it's either Waltz's/Sulakes fault for the account security. But just because you know how to access an account, does not A) give you the right to do so or B) automatically mean you can place furniture on the marketplace? Sulake never intended for it to go on sale.


Hey guys am gonna go rob a bank via a bomb threat and use the money to buy drugs, it's the bank's fault because they should secure themselves more against criminals [p.s. the security they have at the moment is as good as it gets]. Absolutely not the criminal's fault in any way shape or form. Overexaggerated example but you understand the point.
You're focusing on the hacker rather than what was originally being discussed; the buyer of the theatre_ furniture in the marketplace. Let's say you use your stolen money to buy products at some shops.. are you suggesting the people who unknowingly accepted your stolen money are in the wrong?


I've seen a lot of people arguing over whether players should have got a full refund, personally I believe the only people who would have brought this furniture would have been people informed of it being on the marketplace and the event taking place - not innocent Habbos. I mean, its very unlikely someone is to search theatre_ on the marketplace and innocently buy a piece without knowing about the situation.

That is an incredibly valid point lmao. Also, how long was it available for? Because I doubt a gigantic mass newbies would have all suddenly realised these amazing new furnis if it was only up for an hour.
You can see furni on the marketplace without searching for it.