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[akeel$]

This topic has been brought up a lot in the past. I do not want my topic merged with others because this is my personal view and my own topic. Alright so. Since the mute Habbox has yes achieved to become an official Habbo fansite but in terms of activity, just no. If you search "game" in the tab there will be one for every fansite everyday. A month or two before I joined the Habbox events I was an events organizer at thishabbo and they had daily events like every hour. It was packed. So I'm suggesting we do some events with bigger prizes and get more popularity. People just hang in the HXHD all day and you're getting nothing out of that people don't even HELP there. We need a reinforcement of staff - a meeting to get stuff back on track and also need a plan to get the fansite popular. We can do this we just need to work hard. Work hard like the old times to achieve success.

I hope you liked my speech.
Post below your views.

[Inseriousity.]

been asking for an action plan for ages. they don't have any ideas.

[Reality]

This will be going on for the next few years Habbox is going to be open.
Everyone "tried" to make a plan for getting Habbox "active" but it's down to the staff, the event's department as we are all well-aware are very let's say - unstable. Since management has changed the last few months and since 2012 and previous.
Good luck trying to get something about an action-plan or anything you could suggest to the manager :odey:;

[:odey:]

been asking for an action plan for ages. they don't have any ideas.

You're right. We seem to be doing the same tournaments over and over and over because imagination is seriously lacking throughout the entire Habbox Staff.

People just seem to revert back to things 'they know' because ideas are lacking.

I have an idea for the events department but it's only 1.

I'm more than willing to listen to peoples ideas of what they'd like to see in terms of bigger competitions from the Events Department.

[notackyname]

Would help if the events manager actually hosted some events as well

[:odey:]

Would help if the events manager actually hosted some events as well

I've hosted several this week thank you :P

[notackyname]

About time then!

[Kyle]

The trouble here is that valid suggestions are brushed off as merely another idea by another nobody and not actually built on by those with the means to do so. It's kind of annoying that it's always the users that are relied upon to be the innovative ones but if that's what it takes then at least fully take on board when ideas are put forward. Don't just skim feedback threads, read them. LISTEN to them. Build on them.

A fantastic suggestion made last month:
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=802028

Threads that not only highlight a number of issues but are actually packed with suggestions:
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=803141
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=801110
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=799891
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=798575
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=797030

And these are only from the last few months. Look into issues of the past and how they were rectified then or what suggestions were made and not quite fully considered. Habbox feedback is booming. Use it.

[Inseriousity.]

I've hosted several this week thank you :P

Is it true you've scrapped the weekly leaderboard and stopped giving warnings to staff for not reaching their minimums because you weren't hosting your minimum?

It's true that people tend to retreat to their comfort zones when they can't think of anything (mazes, quizzes, tournaments) and in moderation it's not too much of a bad thing and you could even stick to the same thing and put a different spin on it (tournament but with teams of three like the habbox olympics and the habbox world cup before that for instance). I'm talking more generally here. In a way, department managers are merely dealing with the consequences of a slow-moving, unimaginative general management team. Of course that's not to say that managers don't have their role to play but is the lack of activity and the steady decline of new applications because those higher up are not doing their role and if that's the case why is the finger pointed at the department managers and not where it belongs (this isn't at you btw, just making general observations). It has been 7 months since I first asked for an action plan from general management and what ideas have been put in place since then:

- Changes to news department
- Achievements system (still in its early stages and at death's door)
- The Box

Can anyone think of anything else? I can't.

[:odey:]

It also comes down to funds too.
I know its a ridiculous excuse but its completely honest.

Being able to afford bigger prizes, as well as the furni for the rooms etc,

Me & Yuxin; did debate over the Country event, and talked about doing something over the summer in terms of festivals etc etc.
But getting the funds for an event that only last up to a week is difficult.

Me and Gina often to bigger competitions and share the prize between us, which helps a lot, but they're no where near as big as I wish they could be.

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Is it true you've scrapped the weekly leaderboard and stopped giving warnings to staff for not reaching their minimums because you weren't hosting your minimum?

I did scrap weekly leaderboards yes, but they're back now. I didn't see a massive use for them as the reward system was scrapped when Lewis left due to being able to afford it, so really it was just calling out the people that didn't host the minimum pointlessly.

Just because the leaderboards were scrapped, warnings definitely weren't.

And it had nothing to do with me not hosting the minimum.

[Chris]

Is it true you've scrapped the weekly leaderboard and stopped giving warnings to staff for not reaching their minimums because you weren't hosting your minimum?

It's true that people tend to retreat to their comfort zones when they can't think of anything (mazes, quizzes, tournaments) and in moderation it's not too much of a bad thing and you could even stick to the same thing and put a different spin on it (tournament but with teams of three like the habbox olympics and the habbox world cup before that for instance). I'm talking more generally here. In a way, department managers are merely dealing with the consequences of a slow-moving, unimaginative general management team. Of course that's not to say that managers don't have their role to play but is the lack of activity and the steady decline of new applications because those higher up are not doing their role and if that's the case why is the finger pointed at the department managers and not where it belongs (this isn't at you btw, just making general observations). It has been 7 months since I last asked for an action plan from general management and what ideas have been put in place since then:

- Changes to news department
- Achievements system (still in its early stages and at death's door)
- The Box

Can anyone think of anything else? I can't.

How is the achievements system at deaths door? Yes it's in it's early stages but progress is being made for the first update which will bring us a step closer to fazing out the awards system. The update will seem small when it's done but it will have taken a lot of time and effort to put together overall.

Also I wish you would stop banging on about this action plan. I don't think I've seen a feedback thread where you don't bring it up.

[Kyle]

Sorry but lack of funds is an excuse I'm not prepared to hear. You don't NEED 100 thrones to make an enjoyable and engaging event but if you do need a little and are confident with your ideas then ask mattg for a little. 1 thing I've noticed when comparing habbox with others is the type of events that are hosted. others have lots of users that know and enjoy eachother's company playing events that allow for a lot of players. habbox usually has games that are 1 player or make people wait a while in the line until they can play. worth looking further into. there are other differences but would take a while to formulate a proper list. do have a look at other sites that are doing well though.

[:odey:]

Sorry but lack of funds is an excuse I'm not prepared to hear. You don't NEED 100 thrones to make an enjoyable and engaging event but if you do need a little and are confident with your ideas then ask mattg for a little. 1 thing I've noticed when comparing habbox with others is the type of events that are hosted. others have lots of users that know and enjoy eachother's company playing events that allow for a lot of players. habbox usually has games that are 1 player or make people wait a while in the line until they can play. worth looking further into. there are other differences but would take a while to formulate a proper list. do have a look at other sites that are doing well though.

Ye, no, I agree its a poor excuse. But it does seem to be a popular factor in terms of larger events. Builders Club has definitely been a blessing. It's helped Gina & myself out a lot in terms of bigger events.

I agree. People hate queuing.

Events like Pool Attack / Nervous Game / Heaven or Hell etc are definitely more popular than others. I've noticed that myself too.

[Kyle]

How is the achievements system at deaths door? Yes it's in it's early stages but progress is being made for the first update which will bring us a step closer to fazing out the awards system. The update will seem small when it's done but it will have taken a lot of time and effort to put together overall.
Also I wish you would stop banging on about this action plan. I think I've seen a feedback thread where you don't bring it up.
he's kinda right though. nobody really understands the achievements system yet and its integration and hype wasn't done in the best way that it could have been. It's at death's door because it has already been forgotten because of the lack of drive behind it. It can still be exciting but it needs some proper time and ideas put into it. don't like the idea of removing awards if the achievement system isn't up to scratch.

as for an action plan, well it's being brought up a lot because people want reassurance that habbox will move forward and that the general managers aside from laura are actually doing things to move their departments forward.

[Inseriousity.]

How is the achievements system at deaths door? Yes it's in it's early stages but progress is being made for the first update which will bring us a step closer to fazing out the awards system. The update will seem small when it's done but it will have taken a lot of time and effort to put together overall.

Also I wish you would stop banging on about this action plan. I don't think I've seen a feedback thread where you don't bring it up.

If there's an upcoming update then hooray. It has been almost 2 months and interest in it seems to be waning with 1 or 2 posts every now and again rather than a consistent trickle of posts hence the death's door comment. I have already given my opinion as to why I think that is so I'm not going to repeat it here.

As for banging on about the action plan, I haven't mentioned it in a while actually. It was akeel's reference to a plan that made me think of it. However, rest assured, I will stop banging on about it when I see it. :)

[MKR&*42]

The achievements system is so damned confusing and i agree it is at deaths door as it just seems all over the place right now.

As for the other things irdc we have this discussion every month and nothing ever gets done by anyone.

[IzzyUhh]

Okay I guess this is slightly off topic but I guess has some sort of relevance to some comments.

People are saying that the events department are failing a little bit and yes there has been a shortage of events recently, but last week I hosted 3hrs in a row, and around 7 people came to each of those events and it was the same people.

Again, I've hosting 3 hrs tonight and the hour has quickly gone quiet whilst the help desk is quite active. Maybe it's because people may not like me as a host or other people as a host, or the game of which I am hosting, but it seems that when events are actually being hosted, nobody seems to turn up.

*nobody shout at me pls*

[mrwoooooooo]

coughmattiscrapcough

[Lewis]

It also comes down to funds too.
I know its a ridiculous excuse but its completely honest.

Being able to afford bigger prizes, as well as the furni for the rooms etc,

Me & @Yuxin (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=63975); did debate over the Country event, and talked about doing something over the summer in terms of festivals etc etc.
But getting the funds for an event that only last up to a week is difficult.

Me and Gina often to bigger competitions and share the prize between us, which helps a lot, but they're no where near as big as I wish they could be.

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I did scrap weekly leaderboards yes, but they're back now. I didn't see a massive use for them as the reward system was scrapped when Lewis left due to being able to afford it, so really it was just calling out the people that didn't host the minimum pointlessly.

Just because the leaderboards were scrapped, warnings definitely weren't.

And it had nothing to do with me not hosting the minimum.

It's a shame, I would've continued to help fund the rewards system but I no longer can. I funded it via gambling and casinos, and that's very much against the habbo way now!

It'd be nice to see something similar to it though, even if it's not as expensive or possibly not coin/furniture related.

Oh by the way, the leaderboard existed long before any reward system and my time as manager, I believe :P. I personally think it's not just about showing what people have been rewarded, but how well others have done and might encourage some to host a greater quality/quantity. Maybe even a little friendly competition between people and groups!

[Storking]

It also comes down to funds too.
I know its a ridiculous excuse but its completely honest.

Being able to afford bigger prizes, as well as the furni for the rooms etc,

Me & @Yuxin (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=63975); did debate over the Country event, and talked about doing something over the summer in terms of festivals etc etc.
But getting the funds for an event that only last up to a week is difficult.

Me and Gina often to bigger competitions and share the prize between us, which helps a lot, but they're no where near as big as I wish they could be.

Hasn't matt/habbox recently received some decent donations? Why aren't these being sold and the credits being passed on to fund events?

I sympathise regarding lack of funds; it definitely shouldn't be solely down to you or gina to fund the events/radio departments (although i'm sure you can ask for funds from above if I remember correctly lol).


A massive thank you to sadepaiva who has donated 4x Golden Dragons to Habbox


A big thank you to lRhyss for donating a throne to Habbox

equivalent to 3585c ~ which would fund a number of big tournament/long-running events

[akeel$]

This will be going on for the next few years Habbox is going to be open.


At the moment? I doubt it.

[!x!dude!x!2]

Okay I guess this is slightly off topic but I guess has some sort of relevance to some comments.

People are saying that the events department are failing a little bit and yes there has been a shortage of events recently, but last week I hosted 3hrs in a row, and around 7 people came to each of those events and it was the same people.

Again, I've hosting 3 hrs tonight and the hour has quickly gone quiet whilst the help desk is quite active. Maybe it's because people may not like me as a host or other people as a host, or the game of which I am hosting, but it seems that when events are actually being hosted, nobody seems to turn up.

*nobody shout at me pls*

"Recently" It has been like this for a while. It good that you hosted for 3 hours but there are a lot of other eo's that should be hosting as well.
I've seen this a lot also
http://i.imgur.com/xv2N8O2.png

[IzzyUhh]

"Recently" It has been like this for a while. It good that you hosted for 3 hours but there are a lot of other eo's that should be hosting as well.
I've seen this a lot also
http://i.imgur.com/xv2N8O2.png

I said recently meaning on the week days and since exams have started.

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[FlyingJesus]

Let's face it Gina is pretty much the only person we have at the moment who puts in 100% effort even when it's not her business to do so and essentially the whole community side of things is surviving purely because of her endless contribution, be it time money or interaction. There are 16 event organisers at present and ZERO future events booked, the manager seemingly can't be bothered to do anything (even host unless pushed), and even when events are on it's just 50 minute of waiting for enough players because the hosts find it easier to just sit around chatting to people who are already part of the community than to reach out to new folk and do what their roles were created for. Events currently are totally impersonal, slow to run, and just totally lacking in anything that makes games fun. Sam has seemingly been posted away ever since she was made AGM Community and the other AGM with a role that involves making people do what they're meant to prefers to tell members off for asking what the hell the plan is than sort things out - AGM Staff used to be a disciplinary role, not just a fancier name for Features Manager

[James]

for all of y'alls complaining about events, there have been quite a few this week, and most people who are complainign that nobody comes to them, well if nobody is there, that means you're not, so where is your solid ground to complain?

More and more events are being hosted. it may e a slow progress, but it's progress all the same.

[FlyingJesus]

http://i.imgur.com/2nR1sjl.png

51 events, 16 EOs, that's about 3 per person in a week except that LiquidLuck had 11 of those and Sam did 10 so clearly a LOT of people aren't doing their jobs

[Chris]

The achievements system is so damned confusing and i agree it is at deaths door as it just seems all over the place right now.

As for the other things irdc we have this discussion every month and nothing ever gets done by anyone.

Whats confusing about it? You post in the relevant thread and you get the achievement given to you.


Let's face it Gina is pretty much the only person we have at the moment who puts in 100% effort even when it's not her business to do so and essentially the whole community side of things is surviving purely because of her endless contribution, be it time money or interaction. There are 16 event organisers at present and ZERO future events booked, the manager seemingly can't be bothered to do anything (even host unless pushed), and even when events are on it's just 50 minute of waiting for enough players because the hosts find it easier to just sit around chatting to people who are already part of the community than to reach out to new folk and do what their roles were created for. Events currently are totally impersonal, slow to run, and just totally lacking in anything that makes games fun. Sam has seemingly been posted away ever since she was made AGM Community and the other AGM with a role that involves making people do what they're meant to prefers to tell members off for asking what the hell the plan is than sort things out - AGM Staff used to be a disciplinary role, not just a fancier name for Features Manager

We know you're best friends with Gina so it's no surprise you're making her out to be some sort of saint, but you're making it sound as if she's carrying Habbox on her own two shoulders which isn't the case. All of the manager here work hard and are doing their best. If they weren't then they wouldn't be in their position.

The calendar is empty at the moment on Habbox.com but there are plenty of events booked for the coming week. Senior events staff have been unable to add these due to the downtime.

The comments about Sam are unfair. She's done plenty and is currently organising a Habbo event which we were given very short notice for. Give her a break.

Oh and your comments about my role are blind. You have no idea what I do so I don't know how you can say that.

[MKR&*42]

Whats confusing about it? You post in the relevant thread and you get the achievement given to you. .

The fact we have awards and achievements is what's confusing. One of them literally ends up being useless.

[Chris]

The fact we have awards and achievements is what's confusing. One of them literally ends up being useless.

The intention is to faze out awards eventually. It takes time.

[Martin]

I've hosted several this week thank you :P


Well you hosted 3 events during the whole of May and 3 events so far in June so you're way on track to smash May's figure YAY! :P



I'm glad the weekly leaderboard is returning/has returned, it definitely felt weird without it, and I think the friendly competition element does encourage people to host, as well as making it much easier to keep track of things on a weekly basis and easily identifying who is not being part of the team etc. Plus they are quite fun to do!


I think Habbox needs an 'ofsted' style inspection to see where the weaknesses are in various areas from an outside point of view. Obviously this is mainly down to the relevant AGMs to make sure the basics of departments are functioning as they should and that staff aren't just posting away etc because they 'cba' whilst theyre still active on habbo/the forum/playing video games etc and are clearly not actually that busy enough to be away. I think it all comes down to having a passion for doing something and for wanting to help improve things for the better. Obviously its a voluntary job, but I still think its possible to work hard towards something and get a sense of achievement and passion for it if you really care about it a lot and want it to succeed!

Seriously though, some of the staff/managers are really trying their hardest and making an effort and it is lovely to see. We have a really strong habboxlive manager who is perfect with the community, gets on well with everyone and can really help to get habboxlive and the rest of habbox more prominent on the site. It's all about the giveaways, and the first impressions people get of Habbox, then the word will spread, so this really needs to be spot on.

[MKR&*42]

Well you hosted 3 events during the whole of May and 3 events so far in June so you're way on track to smash May's figure YAY! :P.

You're always so like... not up-front sassy, but we know you're being sassy type of sassy and it's just so fierce martin i love it.
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i so hope u were being sassy otherwise bye

[:odey:]

It's just a shame you got fired and put on the dnhl for leaking info Martin or I'm sure you'd be doing a fantastic job right now 'irl'.

[lemons]

nobody gives a **** about habbox these days that's why events are always empty! habbox seems too keen to stick to crap traditions and too scared to make any change

[Reality]

Why events is taking up most of the feedback thread also confuses me! Can we have a whole section dedicated to it? xxMATTGxx;

[:odey:]

Why events is taking up most of the feedback thread also confuses me! Can we have a whole section dedicated to it? xxMATTGxx;

we need a whole forum not just a section. :¬:

[Reality]

we need a whole forum not just a section. :¬:

I agree I'll make a feedback about this later ;) -

[dbgtz]

got to love the professionalism in this thread

[Reality]

got to love the professionalism in this thread

What professionalism Habbox has none of this?! Make a feedback thread explaining your views thanks!

[lemons]

nobody seems to turn up.


bless you rihanna-cool :Cry: i enjoy your events even if @Intersocial (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=86637); won pod racing :Slant:


habbox is near to non-existent on habbo itself because habbox has NO community at all


habbox is full of oldies who don't even play habbo which is a must imo!

[Phil]

It's just a shame you got fired and put on the dnhl for leaking info Martin or I'm sure you'd be doing a fantastic job right now 'irl'.

I'll have you know before Martin was AGM of Community, the minimum in Events were 3 per month. He's done a lot for events so your attitude is unnecessary.

[lemons]

bolt660 events have been packed every time i've been to one bravo

[Reality]

To be honest events has always and always will be an unstable department even if the forum isn't as stable as it ;) but they get by I just think they get too much criticism because of previous threads! I bet if it was left in feedback event feedback a would be made half the time they're now because most of the things stated are repeated!

[FlyingJesus]

We know you're best friends with Gina so it's no surprise you're making her out to be some sort of saint, but you're making it sound as if she's carrying Habbox on her own two shoulders which isn't the case. All of the manager here work hard and are doing their best. If they weren't then they wouldn't be in their position.

If they're truly doing their best they should be replaced because their best is frankly terrible. You can't look at a complete failure of a department and say "oh but they're TRYING" and pretend that that's an actual response.


The comments about Sam are unfair. She's done plenty and is currently organising a Habbo event which we were given very short notice for. Give her a break.

They're completely fair, and she's had plenty of breaks which was kinda my point. She's missed entire fansite events and made a hash of ones that she has "organised" and it all comes down to her supposedly being new in the role every time, which sort of doesn't work as an excuse after a while. If you'd like to actually come up with a response other than NO SHUT UP that would be fab.


Oh and your comments about my role are blind. You have no idea what I do so I don't know how you can say that.

I ghosted the Staff AGM role for quite a while so yeah I do have an idea. It's your job to keep the staff in line and you're not doing it.

[Reality]

I do agree with Tom on most accounts of his argument as the staff aren't always striving to dot heir best and Sam hasn't been there for fansite events ...!(there may have been reason but it's coincidental)

[Meanies]

Not read most of this thread, but if events were actually funded properly I'd say they would be much more popular. Instead of people having to give away their own furniture, why can they not be funded like other departments are? Say there was 5 or even 10c provided per event, it could be advertised in the thread made for each event and the room name also. Winning a selection of random furni would not interest me, winning 10c might get my attention a bit more. Instead of doing events where each round has a winner, why not do events where there is an overall prize. These events might still have a few rounds, the winner of each individual round might win a single furni or some rep points, and then the overall winner of the event wins the main prize (10c or whatever is allocated) or a larger amount of rep points.

[Phil]

Not read most of this thread, but if events were actually funded properly I'd say they would be much more popular. Instead of people having to give away their own furniture, why can they not be funded like other departments are? Say there was 5 or even 10c provided per event, it could be advertised in the thread made for each event and the room name also. Winning a selection of random furni would not interest me, winning 10c might get my attention a bit more. Instead of doing events where each round has a winner, why not do events where there is an overall prize. These events might still have a few rounds, the winner of each individual round might win a single furni or some rep points, and then the overall winner of the event wins the main prize (10c or whatever is allocated) or a larger amount of rep points.

For as long as I've been at Habbox, I don't think Events have been funded that so I really don't think that's the problem. I know Inseriousity.; was very keen on getting events completely funded so hosts wouldn't have to use their own furni but it's definitely not how to sort the problem, it would be wayy too expensive.

Something I suggest would have some sort of "Win a Room/Habbo Events Lotto" where every winner of an event gets a ticket and at the end of the month someone wins a room full of furni or a certain amount of credits.

[FlyingJesus]

It's been said multiple times in the past that if events need funds they can just ask for them, people just don't

[Kyle]

habbox is near to non-existent on habbo itself because habbox has NO community at all

habbox is full of oldies who don't even play habbo which is a must imo!
Having no community and having a disjointed community are different. There is a community at habbox with potential to grow, it's just that everybody's too busy disliking eachother or refusing to get to know one another so habbox can't properly pull together and expand.

I disagree with the reason for the lack of activity at habbox being that the members are 'too old' or don't play habbo. There's only actually a rather small group of active users that don't play habbo. Just because habbo is no longer their lifestyle, don't write them off as nonplayers who can't contribute because if you look at hxss for example, almost everybody crawls back out of the woodwork and visits at least a few events.


To be honest events has always and always will be an unstable department even if the forum isn't as stable as it ;) but they get by I just think they get too much criticism because of previous threads! I bet if it was left in feedback event feedback a would be made half the time they're now because most of the things stated are repeated!
Events are the main department under fire because they are the main source of new users. When other departments aren't being seen to be pulling their weight believe me they get feedback too.


It's been said multiple times in the past that if events need funds they can just ask for them, people just don't
I don't think funding is as much a problem as people make it out to be, it's that people aren't confident enough in themselves and their (or others' if we look at the festival example) ideas that they can ask for funds.

What should be happening (with ALL departments, not just events) is that the teams and their managers should each get together and figure out what they bring to habbox, what the community's view of what they're currently bringing to habbox is, and what they can do (events/comps wise) to put habbox back onto the map for an extended period.

A lot of the problems are - going back to the main issue of activity - that management, general management, and sometimes a large portion of senior staff, just don't have enough time for habbox. Odey has been away recently, as have his senior events staff afaik, so nobody has been actually steering that ship and its been headed into increasingly rougher waters. Gina does so fantastically well not only because she puts time and effort in even where it isn't required of her role (although it should be, for all management roles) but because she has a top notch team of heads and seniors that she can actually rely on and staff that are able to use prerogative and do the job without being told.

Comps & Graphics provided habbox with an engaging event without the need for lots of funding, habboxlive entertain users without the need for lots of funding, events actually sometimes pull in users because of the quality of their events rather than the prizes, believe it or not. Funding is *not* an issue. Dedication, drive and innovation is.

but it's exam period so it'll pick up right guys?

[MKR&*42]

Yeah I'm fairly sure matt said he'd provide funds if people just asked for them. Dunno if he's still doing that, but if he is then there's little/no excuse really.

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bless you rihanna-cool :Cry: i enjoy your events even if @Intersocial (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=86637); won pod racing :Slant:


habbox is near to non-existent on habbo itself because habbox has NO community at all


habbox is full of oldies who don't even play habbo which is a must imo!

First event ive played in a month and i won #flawless.

[IzzyUhh]

Yeah I'm fairly sure matt said he'd provide funds if people just asked for them. Dunno if he's still doing that, but if he is then there's little/no excuse really.

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First event ive played in a month and i won #flawless.

Glad you won at my event then xo

Idk I find ot strange how habbo itself is getting more dead really and its a huge shame as I enjoy hosting events and playing events that are packed with people.

Thing about peoples job as manager is that you cant really see the full extent of what they're doing unless you're in the department and its like that in a few places idk

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[akeel$]

We only get events worthwhile now so.
It's clear to me that none of the staff are meeting expectations. There's hardly any events and I bet half the events staff haven't hosted in WEEKS and are just getting away with it. I always hosted and tried to raise activity whilst I was an Events Host so wow at htis it just sucks to be honest. I would never "betray" Habbox but I've had to go to other fansite events for stuff just because there is nothing ever being hosted at Habbox so yeah >_< sucks pretty bad.

[Hannah]

Perhaps you could all get together and start a campaign/plot? Fill it with competitions stated in the many threads filled with suggestions.

It's a lot more interesting when there are somewhat 'story lines' behind things.
Obviously they require planning, in addition to events actually being hosted and events staff actually playing their part - but I'm sure if you all decide to actually act on this improvement thing then you can all manage. ;)

Oh, it also involved getting your foot up the staff backsides to improve their output.

[Plebings]

sadly it's a case of potential event hosts going to the most popular fansites to get a bigger audience. looking at the list of current events staff, 80%+ are habbox regulars, so makes you wonder what the issue is - either the current recruitment scheme is aimed only at regular habboxers, or it's just unappealing to new audiences. though you cannot just blame events for this.

you need something that will keep users coming back, don't get people into the mindset that this is just an event to gain furni, this is a chance to bring in new users. the only thing in events at the moment that could potentially get people interested in the fansite is tokens/rep, and no-one even picks them as the prizes are usually good standard. want a furni bundle or 1% of your way to earning yourself a gold bar?

why aren't tokens given for free? when someone wins you can then discuss the benefits of them, give them a furni prize and say that they are also on their way to earning a gold bar through your events if they sign up to hxf.

[Kyle]

sadly it's a case of potential event hosts going to the most popular fansites to get a bigger audience. looking at the list of current events staff, 80%+ are habbox regulars, so makes you wonder what the issue is - either the current recruitment scheme is aimed only at regular habboxers, or it's just unappealing to new audiences. though you cannot just blame events for this.

you need something that will keep users coming back, don't get people into the mindset that this is just an event to gain furni, this is a chance to bring in new users. the only thing in events at the moment that could potentially get people interested in the fansite is tokens/rep, and no-one even picks them as the prizes are usually good standard. want a furni bundle or 1% of your way to earning yourself a gold bar?

why aren't tokens given for free? when someone wins you can then discuss the benefits of them, give them a furni prize and say that they are also on their way to earning a gold bar through your events if they sign up to hxf.
this is a good idea to be honest. NOBODY wins enough events alone to want to choose tokens and telling people that they have won tokens will 1. encourage them to sign up to the forum if they haven't. 2. encourage them to attend MORE events.
@:odey: (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=37924); @Phil (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=67954); what do you think

[e5]

Help desk is pointless to me, it should just be a moderated hang out.

Bigger prizes and more unique games are needed. Double the staff if needed!

[Kyle]

Help desk is pointless to me, it should just be a moderated hang out.

Bigger prizes and more unique games are needed. Double the staff if needed!
explain reasoning for moderated hangout idea in here
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=803726

bigger prizes aren't needed. prizes atm are fine.

[Inseriousity.]

people tend to ask 'what are tokens' even if they haven't won anyway so there is plenty of opportunity to say win a gold bar! Although with the current credits via tokens system in major need of a revamp perhaps not as enticing as it could be!

[e5]

explain reasoning for moderated hangout idea in here
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=803726

bigger prizes aren't needed. prizes atm are fine.

Well theres clearly something wrong with events. If i saw an event to win 2gb for example or a event to win 10c, i no which one i'd go to. Something needs to change and events need to be open to all changes.

[Kyle]

Well theres clearly something wrong with events. If i saw an event to win 2gb for example or a event to win 10c, i no which one i'd go to. Something needs to change and events need to be open to all changes.
what events are you seeing that offer 2gb as a prize

do you even know what's given at prizes for habbox events?

[:odey:]

this is a good idea to be honest. NOBODY wins enough events alone to want to choose tokens and telling people that they have won tokens will 1. encourage them to sign up to the forum if they haven't. 2. encourage them to attend MORE events.
@:odey: (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=37924); @Phil (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=67954); what do you think


I really like that idea actually. Maybe if its just 25 for a win regardless, and then if you choose tokens it could be 100 or something rather than 50.

[Storking]

The tokens-as-event-prizes is so out of proportion right now, so if they are to be used as an attractive feature to join HXF then they need to be increased.

To make it easily understandable:

If you choose tokens ~ 1 client event win = 50 tokens (going by what :odey: just posted)

and so you need to win 100 events for a token-exchanged gold bar


Whereas,

If you choose furni ~ 1 client event win = 4c furni on average

and so need to win 13 events worth of furni for a gold bar

[e5]

what events are you seeing that offer 2gb as a prize

do you even know what's given at prizes for habbox events?

I once received 5 coins

[Kyle]

I once received 5 coins
And are you aware of the prizes other fansites are giving? Do you honestly think a gold bar or 2 is actually reasonable?

[MKR&*42]

The tokens-as-event-prizes is so out of proportion right now, so if they are to be used as an attractive feature to join HXF then they need to be increased.

To make it easily understandable:

If you choose tokens ~ 1 client event win = 50 tokens (going by what :odey: just posted)

and so you need to win 100 events for a token-exchanged gold bar


Whereas,

If you choose furni ~ 1 client event win = 4c furni on average

and so need to win 13 events worth of furni for a gold bar

Tbf the situation was worse, at the very start of introduction to tokens in events I believe it was 10 tokens per win which was simply outrageous. But yeah I do believe it could now do with upping it a little bit.

[e5]

And are you aware of the prizes other fansites are giving? Do you honestly think a gold bar or 2 is actually reasonable?

I wasn't exactly meaning a fanzine plus 2 gold bars was an example, i clearly stated that...

[akeel$]

Just going to take a moment to say THANK YOU to Comity.
He has hosted endless events full of fun! I can see a good future for Habbox if he and other members keep this up. Maybe the activity isn't so bad afterall. We just need some trustworthy members of staff who can always be on task.

[Phil]

this is a good idea to be honest. NOBODY wins enough events alone to want to choose tokens and telling people that they have won tokens will 1. encourage them to sign up to the forum if they haven't. 2. encourage them to attend MORE events.
@:odey: (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=37924); @Phil (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=67954); what do you think

Not sure what I was mentioned for there lol but I think it's a good idea. Tokens are perfect for getting new users to sign up but I wonder how many users have actually been signed up because of Tokens.

I believe Events is in a decline at the moment and over the past 2-3 days I can see it going back up gradually and I believe it can get back to where it was with a bit of work and commitment. This month is goign better than last month already. Last month was woeful. I have no idea what's going on inside that department so don't take this for concrete but I think the problems in the department need to be sorted before "how can we get more people". Sure we can get the people in the meantime but something needs to happen that will bring more events from the department.

[akeel$]

Not sure what I was mentioned for there lol but I think it's a good idea. Tokens are perfect for getting new users to sign up but I wonder how many users have actually been signed up because of Tokens.

I believe Events is in a decline at the moment and over the past 2-3 days I can see it going back up gradually and I believe it can get back to where it was with a bit of work and commitment. This month is goign better than last month already. Last month was woeful. I have no idea what's going on inside that department so don't take this for concrete but I think the problems in the department need to be sorted before "how can we get more people". Sure we can get the people in the meantime but something needs to happen that will bring more events from the department.

To be totally honest with you I didn't sign up because of tokens I didn't even know they existed. Unfortunately though most of the people I have referred did sign up just because of tokens but irregardless - it isn't all about posting and getting tokens it's more about commenting on topics and making new friends because personally I've made tons of friends since I became a part of Habbox. It's been a lovely ongoing experience and I do not want it to end so I suggest we start getting popular again. I've tried hard to encourage members to join got about four / three referrals and set a good example to new members teaching them about tokens and how to go to the shop and the helpdesk and everything! It's been good and I hope to carry on helping new members. We can easily recruit new members t isn't hard but let's just remember what matters most at the end of the day. Each other! It's about our friends, the community and all the departments within it. THIS is what makes us Habbox and we will carry on being the best and stride forwards with our heads held high knowing that we run the best fansite on Habbo.

[Lewis]

I think my previous idea of a free token lottery could go well merged into events. An option for amount of tokens that can then be entered into a free lottery to win big prizes every so often - with a certain amount as one ticket or whatever!

[FlyingJesus]

"What is rep?" "IT'S REPUTATION ON HABBOX"

"What are tokens?" "THEY ARE TOKENS YOU CAN EXCHANGE FOR THINGS"

Literally every staff response when given these options

[lRhyss]

"What is rep?" "IT'S REPUTATION ON HABBOX"

"What are tokens?" "THEY ARE TOKENS YOU CAN EXCHANGE FOR THINGS"

Literally every staff response when given these options
Pretty sure they get told in the handbook that if they're asked they have to paste to pre-determined responses provided by the management?

"Reputation is a form of point's system used on HabboxForum. It's usually gained by users thanking other users for help."

"Tokens are the current currency for HabboxForum users. You collect them by posting as well as winning events and competitions. They can be used to purchase Forum VIP and also Habbo Credits."

I just wrote them out, but I'm pretty sure the Handbook gives similar examples how what staff are supposed to answer with when they're asked.

Since Casinos kicked the bucket, TONNES of new events and games have been arising! I've seen loads and loads of people making things like Board Games, Pet Racing (Classic) and even turning the old gambling game "Multi" into a game where you can win furniture by getting over a certain amount.

ideas are lacking in the department, but maybe if they got out there and scouted some of the newer trends and other fansite events, the problem would soon go away.

[GommeInc]

This should be considered a serious issue seeing as it is events that draw people into a community. It is one of the main forms of exposure any fansite can have on Habbo.

If the manager is to blame - sack them. The manager should be incredibly active and approachable. One main problem with Habbox on Habbo, it would seem, is that they can't be bothered to socialise with non-members. The help desk is often caught out for doing this and if the events team is doing it no wonder Habbox isn't as popular as other fansites.

[lRhyss]

This should be considered a serious issue seeing as it is events that draw people into a community. It is one of the main forms of exposure any fansite can have on Habbo.

If the manager is to blame - sack them. The manager should be incredibly active and approachable. One main problem with Habbox on Habbo, it would seem, is that they can't be bothered to socialise with non-members. The help desk is often caught out for doing this and if the events team is doing it no wonder Habbox isn't as popular as other fansites.
100% agree with the bolded parts here. Although Tom is doing a good job IMO, he could be pushed further, I haven't seen any pushing of open applications though, or any advertisement in client or in signatures etc...

As with the socialise thing... I remember this was a big problem in the past, and when Lewis was manager I'm pretty sure he scrapped the whole "HabboxVIP" area. Making it so ANY user could enter the social area, as long as they didn't interfere with the host area or any game related furniture such as dice etc... I've actually seen some people avoiding this rule recently, having it so you need a code to enter a social area, or even just placing a gate down. So has the rule gone completely? If it has then that's stupid. Yes fair enough, it doesn't help a lot as staff can staff talk to their friends and ignore the others, but it does make non staff feel a little more involved if they can sit and commute with Habbox people and stuff.

[Kyle]

on the habboxvip thing, I noticed it in a different fansite event which was still pretty successful
http://puu.sh/9jV2E
let's avoid this attitude

[IzzyUhh]

"What is rep?" "IT'S REPUTATION ON HABBOX"

"What are tokens?" "THEY ARE TOKENS YOU CAN EXCHANGE FOR THINGS"

Literally every staff response when given these options

Believe its a rule since Lewis was manager (possibly before him) that there should be a sticky explaining what rep and tokens are.

Ive seen it in a lot of events rooms yay

E.g in my room I have the rules for the event, what is rep sticky, what are tokens sticky, and then useful websites and prizes that you can win.

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[FlyingJesus]

It may well be a rule but it's not followed and no-one's enforcing the rules anyway (manager or staff AGM), and telling someone to read a sticky isn't going to make them want to carry on interacting with that community since it's extremely stand-offish and comes across as being something from an army/mafia recruitment room than something that's actually fun

[Lewis]

"What is rep?" "IT'S REPUTATION ON HABBOX"

"What are tokens?" "THEY ARE TOKENS YOU CAN EXCHANGE FOR THINGS"

Literally every staff response when given these options

Well I introduced compulsory stickies for them that staff had to point them to and explain themselves if possible. Not sure what's happened to that. If they failed to prepare stickies such as that or the how to play one, they'd get a caution after so many times.

- - - Updated - - -


100% agree with the bolded parts here. Although Tom is doing a good job IMO, he could be pushed further, I haven't seen any pushing of open applications though, or any advertisement in client or in signatures etc...

As with the socialise thing... I remember this was a big problem in the past, and when Lewis was manager I'm pretty sure he scrapped the whole "HabboxVIP" area. Making it so ANY user could enter the social area, as long as they didn't interfere with the host area or any game related furniture such as dice etc... I've actually seen some people avoiding this rule recently, having it so you need a code to enter a social area, or even just placing a gate down. So has the rule gone completely? If it has then that's stupid. Yes fair enough, it doesn't help a lot as staff can staff talk to their friends and ignore the others, but it does make non staff feel a little more involved if they can sit and commute with Habbox people and stuff.

I never scrapped it, Hayden scrapped it and I kept it that way with a few changes :P. Not sure what's really happened to it since then

[MKR&*42]

I assume habboxvip got brought back rhys as I have seen it reintroduced a while ago. I thought Lewis readded it but I guess it wasn't him based on^ :P

but no lets keep staff chattin to their buddiess cause less community interaction is exact what we need 10/10

[Kyle]

no habbox event I've entered has habboxvip bye

[IzzyUhh]

Think you're allowed habboxvip if you want now or leave it so you can freely walk into like a watch area

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[Matt]

Habboxvip is optional however a majority of the hosts choose to have an open layout where the VIP connects to the queue and there is therefore no need for the 'habboxvip' wired. In cases where the VIP areas are separate, there is either wired in place or a teleport to get you there.

I do think a majority of the comments about host interaction etc is quite generalised as I know I do go out of my way to explain to players and have a friendly attitude. It is unfortunate that I host at non-peak times and quite often don't get to see a huge amount of events being hosted in peak BST times. The tokens & rep stickers are put in place as when we are hosting it is hard to continue the game, quite often with impatient players, and therefore the stickers are there to explain to players in depth what Rep and Tokens are.

As already mentioned, the panel appeared empty due the fact Habbox was down and during that period we still had a number of events going on, just not being shown on the Habbox.com panel or on the Forum Community Notice Board. In terms of events this coming week, there are practically 0, which will no doubt increase (as people have minimums to reach) however losing staff (and again i'll bring up the issue of exams) always does influence the amount of events being hosted.

In terms of funding, no one has unlimited creds and hosts need to moderate the types of prizes they are giving out to players in order to ensure they have enough to get them through the hour (and until they can get more creds/furni).

Also akeel; you stated in a previous post "It's clear to me that none of the staff are meeting expectations.". Just wondering, how many events do you expect to see from a host in any given week? Just curious - keeping in mind the minimum is 3 per week - that is what I expect from staff and a majority of the time they do deliver and meet the expectation and minimum of 3 events.

Events is not like it used to be and that has been made clear. It's been drilled in constantly for months and months and I know it. I agree that it won't be like it used to and successful events in client generally have large quantities of creds/furni on offer and that is what gets the players in to the room.

[Kyle]

Events is not like it used to be and that has been made clear. It's been drilled in constantly for months and months and I know it. I agree that it won't be like it used to and successful events in client generally have large quantities of creds/furni on offer and that is what gets the players in to the room.
No no no no, no, no, no.

Prizes are NOT a problem, getting people to come to the rooms are. The solution lies in the charisma of events staff, the willingness to integrate into the community and the type of events they host. A user who talks to nobody, asks nobody to come to their event, posts a CNB and simply waits in their room is not going to get visitors regardless if their prize is 20 thrones or 5 coins. People aren't going to ENJOY the event just because of its prize. The best hosts are those that talk DJs, advertise in the helpdesk when it's full and are active in the community.

[Yawn]

yes integration

look at comity his events are always packed. he interacts with hxl and the djs, has a core group of ppl who always attend the events he hosts and the rest sorts itself out

his prizes nothing to do with it, the events he hosts are usually enjoyable but even the more basic 1s do well (like telephrase atm)

[akeel$]

mdport.; Having four events a week would be better in my opinion.

[IzzyUhh]

I think if you raised the minimums of events there is a chance a few people who wouldn't meet them and I personally would struggle with anymore than 4 due to exams etc.

It wouldn't really affect the people who go over the minimum anyway which obviously is great

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[Phil]

I believe the minimum was two per week not too long ago. Three is fine as long as there's a good staff team who will meet minimums and go beyond what they're expected to do

[sex]

The minimum is fine does no one remember it was 2 a month in 2008 lol
PEOPLE JUST NEED MOTIVATION

[Yawn]

anyway ive loved listening to hxl and playing all the events recently its been fun

bored so ill expand on this:

there a rly nice lil events/hxl community atm with absently, becca or toxicmint djing on hxl while we all play events (usually hosted by comity) or just hanging out in rooms as a big group listening to songs and having parties (lol). theres a fairly large group of ppl coming together so the rooms are always high on navigator and yh its nice :')

[akeel$]

agreed su i've had fun since comity stepped into the era am going to make a personal feedback topic on him now!

[Becca]

ignore me i'm drunk

[Matt]

@mdport. (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=67543); Having four events a week would be better in my opinion.

As a few other people have mentioned, the minimum used to be at 2 events and as far as I'm concerned, I think the minimum is fine at where it is. If it's too high, people are less reluctant to join Events and then we are left with no staff at all. It is up to staff if they want to go above and beyond that 3 event minimum and we can only make people do 3 and from that point onwards, it's up to the host.


No no no no, no, no, no.

Prizes are NOT a problem, getting people to come to the rooms are. The solution lies in the charisma of events staff, the willingness to integrate into the community and the type of events they host. A user who talks to nobody, asks nobody to come to their event, posts a CNB and simply waits in their room is not going to get visitors regardless if their prize is 20 thrones or 5 coins. People aren't going to ENJOY the event just because of its prize. The best hosts are those that talk DJs, advertise in the helpdesk when it's full and are active in the community.

I'd have to say that I've experienced so many people leave my events when I tell them that the prize is 3c or the rep/tokens on the forum. I've also had comments along the lines of "oh is that all" and remarks like that. So I assumed that that is what you were referring to :P Either they leave because they want more or they leave because it's a fansite event... not too sure which one.

The attitude of hosts should not really be an issue. They know they need to be interacting with the community, they need to be polite and answer questions, that they need to moderate the room to a particular standard and they need to make sure they follow protocol when it comes to advertising their events. If a host books only minutes before their event and it's not on the panel, a Dj may not always see that there's an event. In this case, the host should be sending in a shoutout to the on air Dj or a message to them on Habbo to get them to promote their event.

I understand that not all hosts contact the on air Dj and that's something we can't really monitor. In terms of attitude, they should be interacting with other people in the room and this is something that is addressed in reports etc. I can only really vouch for the non-BST staff in saying that they are great in terms of connecting with the community. From what i've seen, they go out of their way and are always enthusiastic throughout their events. However, this should be standard in all of our events

[FlyingJesus]

If people are so disinterested that they leave just because the prize isn't a throne then obviously the event being hosted is pretty boring

[Matt]

Events such as Isolation, Black Hole, The Sims etc are popular events, however they can't be the only events hosted as we do want variation. I'd say it's mainly to do with the individual themselves and wanting a prize that's above your standard few creds.

I'm not saying this happens all the time and that the reason people leave is based 100% on the quantity of the prize, but It's something I've seen and does affect the turnout of players.

[FlyingJesus]

Variation's great but not having crap events that no-one goes to is better, and if we're only gonna have 3 events a day then they might as well be decent ones and not something that hosts see as a chore then as soon as the hour's up go do something else

[akeel$]

2 events that's just bad you know what. you need more event hosts which can be active and host a lot of events without being told. when i was an events host i was actually warned not to do any events because i was overdoing it even though there was like five slots open lol :/ how is that overdoing it? nobody's hosting the fansite is dead and i'm told by a member of staff not to constantly host - it wasn't even booked but whatever that was kinda the reason i resigned just hate towards me i've done nothing wrong lol but anyway now the situation is more weighed i've noticed since comity has came (yes a single events host can make so much difference) he has changed the fansite for the better and made it active again tbh x

[Chippiewill]

It looks a bit **** when you have a single EO running six events in a row at 4am.

[Matt]

Variation's great but not having crap events that no-one goes to is better, and if we're only gonna have 3 events a day then they might as well be decent ones and not something that hosts see as a chore then as soon as the hour's up go do something else

And if an event has already been hosted that same day, we ask staff to change it to encourage that variation. We can't 100% control the events being hosted. If a host books an event that hasn't already been hosted on that day, we approve it and add it to the panel. Whether or not that event is classed fun or not is a different issue, up to the host and out of our hands completely. I think it depends on a number of things, like how much wired/furni the host has, how much time they have to set up the room and so on.


2 events that's just bad you know what. you need more event hosts which can be active and host a lot of events without being told. when i was an events host i was actually warned not to do any events because i was overdoing it even though there was like five slots open lol :/ how is that overdoing it? nobody's hosting the fansite is dead and i'm told by a member of staff not to constantly host - it wasn't even booked but whatever that was kinda the reason i resigned just hate towards me i've done nothing wrong lol but anyway now the situation is more weighed i've noticed since comity has came (yes a single events host can make so much difference) he has changed the fansite for the better and made it active again tbh x

I'm not entirely sure why a member of staff would be telling you not to host as you need to host in order to pass your trial? I'd say on average, 5 slots is a pretty safe number of events to be hosted at the moment. If you had hosted 10+ events in only a few days, then yeah I'd understand someone telling you not to host so frequently as you need to make sure you have enough prizes etc. In terms of the hate you received, I said before that you never brought it to our attention therefore we couldn't do anything to help you. I'm sure we'd have dealt with it appropriately if you had have made us aware. The old minimum concerning the two events wasn't bad as I'm sure we had a lot more staff back then and it worked out well. The more staff you have, the more events being hosted which meant the minimum only needed to be at 2 events to see a full-ish calendar.

"you need more event hosts which can be active and host a lot of events without being told." We've known this for months and months and trust me, if it was that easy to find staff like that, we'd not be having this conversation now. We have been low on staff numbers for a long time now and finding staff that are dedicated, host a wide range of events and are active in the community is not as easy as it used to. Something we are having to work round for now. Applications have been open for an extremely long time (and not been closed for months and months) and apart from advertising in our rooms and in official Habbox rooms, it's luck of the draw on whether or not we get good applicants or not.


It looks a bit **** when you have a single EO running six events in a row at 4am.

It's better than having 0 Events being hosted from midnight until midday isn't it? I'd have said that having a panel that's empty during the early hours is a lot worse than a single host hosting for 6 hours straight. We can only admire their work as the current situation in events relies on people like that.

[akeel$]

At the moment things are pretty organized hopefully we will be back on track by the UK summer holidays. HXSS and everything will all be very exciting. Yeah well, let's all try our best as a community to make this work then.