Promotion without Pay Increase

[Phil]

Hey!

So some of you may know that I work in a Kids Club in a Hotel. Incase you don't know what that is, it's basically a club in a hotel where parents can dump their kids so they can actually enjoy their holiday :P

I've been working there for almost a year and a half and last year I was nominated for Employee of the Year. I've been expecting a promotion for a while now (not being cocky, my boss brought up the possibility).

Yesterday, I got a phone call off my boss telling me she has been talking to the HR Manager and the Associate Manager telling me they are prepared to offer me the promotion and I will be the Supervisor of the Crazy Clubbers in the hotel but she said that I will not get a pay increase because they don't have it in the budget.

Either way I'm going to accept the promotion because I will have more responsibility and the experience will be fantastic for me as I am going to be starting a four year Hospitality Management course next year.

I have a lot of people telling me not to bother because I won't be getting a pay increase but at the same time I don't think that should stop me taking the promotion.

What should I do?!

TLDR: Getting promotion, no pay increase, what should I do?

-------EDIT---------

She told me not give her an answer on the phone so I have the chance to think about it considering there's no raise but she said to go in on Wednesday and chat with her so I have til Wednesday to figure out what to do lmao

[Martin]

Go for the promotion! :)


You kind of answered it yourself, the experience you get from having extra responsibilities etc will be worth it I think, and just the extra authority and stuff will be awesome!



I am technically classed as a "Supervisor" at work, but I'm on the same pay as regular cashiers etc, yet I do more managing than the managers, however its far more varied than just being regular staff!



GO FOR IT!!!

[scottish]

Go for it, as you said it'll look good on your CV once your finished your course and presumably it's not extra hours so why not

[lawrawrrr]

It's definitely worth the experience. I would sort of raise it with them though, informally, to show that you're not a pushover or anything and they wouldn't be able to try something like this again with you. And if you end up doing a considerable amount of work / MUCH harder work than you were before, once you've settled in might be worth, informally again, bringing it up that you're being paid as much as your inferiors (I assume you'll be managing people!) for doing a lot more and stuff.

But well done!!!

[Hannah]

While it does work in your favour, at the same time if you're doing more work but being paid the same it makes little sense.

When my manager went to India for 3 weeks I was left managing my branch, no extra pay and the workload increased - I got fed up of it pretty quickly, knowing I was being paid the same amount as the others who essentially sit doing sweet FA.

I won't suggest turning the opportunity down, but perhaps speaking about a possibility in the future of a raise.

That or get the experience and disappear to somewhere that will give you the extra money.

[Inseriousity.]

If you don't accept it, they'll just give it to someone else for the same pay. You might as well take the experience. It'll work out nicely for you long-term.

[101]

Definitely go for it! I know it's not the same, lol, but I work in a supermarket and was given the opportunity to step up to a supervisor kind of role on my department about a year or so ago. I don't get any more money than anybody else on my department and the responsibility is on my head when my manager isn't in, but it's a stepping stone onto higher roles that do offer a pay increase, and it always looks better on your CV if you've gone a step higher.

As the saying goes - 'you always regret the chances you didn't take' :P

[Futz]

i'd take it so you can put the new role on your CV and sometimes higher positions carry more responsibility but less of the grunt work

nowerdays to get any sort of pay rise you have to move companies/threaten them with competition/move internally but not through promotion

its ********

[Zak]

No doubt they're lying as it's more than likely that they have the budget for it. Companies up and down the country claim to have no money yet manage to pay the directors, execs, managers, corporate team etc a nice salary. It's all a ruse to take advantage and keep costs down. Trust me I hear it all the time.

I wouldn't go for it personally if you had to take on a lot more, if it's just a bit here and there.. or you get to delegate tasks to others then go for it. As mentioned by others on here it will look good on your CV and every little helps. :)

A pay rise is hard to get though with so many people out of work and cheap labour out there.

[Matthew]

if you're gonna end up working much harder/longer hours etc then I wouldn't take it, personally.

Then again as you said for the CV it would be great.

[Chippiewill]

I think you should ask for assurance that if space in the budget appears for a pay rise that it be given to you. If you do more work without getting more pay then there is the danger that they will come to expect this of you and continuously give you more responsibilities without more pay since they believe that they can get away with it.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I think you should ask for assurance that if space in the budget appears for a pay rise that it be given to you. If you do more work without getting more pay then there is the danger that they will come to expect this of you and continuously give you more responsibilities without more pay since they believe that they can get away with it.

This is true.

The workplace is well known for being more about who you know and get on with as opposed to what you do. I've seen the same with promotions in my old school where deserving teachers were knocked back behind not so deserving teachers.

[Matt]

Yeah it would be really good to put on your CV and if they ever did manage to get some more funds or something, you could always get a pay rise anyway. Definitely take it! Goodluck with it too :)

[Sian]

I think it depends on the amount of extra hours you may have to put in, and how much more the work load should be, if it's a lot you do deserve a pay rise and I would question the lack of it. Otherwise go for it, you can put it on your cv etc :)

[LiquidLuck.]

Phil; omg hospitality management! come to scotland! LOL

Also take it, at least it will look better on a CV and then if their budget allows it you might be given the raise you deserve

[Phil]

Just saw today that two people in the bar have been promoted to Supervisor too. I'd be so interested to know if they were give a pay raise, hmm.

[The Don]

Do it just for the experience and to improve your CV. It'll make it easier to get management work in the future.

[Sian]

Just saw today that two people in the bar have been promoted to Supervisor too. I'd be so interested to know if they were give a pay raise, hmm.

Ooh, now that is interesting. Definitely go talk to them about it.

[Phil]

Ooh, now that is interesting. Definitely go talk to them about it.

I don't know them :( lol

[iBlueBox]

Hmm, you should see how much more work it would involve.

[Phil]

Hmm, you should see how much more work it would involve.

I'm already doing all the work that I will be doing besides doing the hours. I already do far more than anyone else lol

[scottish]

Then why not :P

[Phil]

Then why not :P

I am going to take it. The main question for me right now is should I say something about it

[scottish]

Just say if there's an opening in the budget you feel it's only fair that you should have priority to get that pay raise as you're already doing the work.

[Phil]

OHHH THAT'S GOOD I'LL USE THAT!