phil you liar

[scottish]

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=804815&p=8211525#post8211525

there is world cup stuff going on.


but yeah, why is everything postponed I swear every event I look at there's been something gone severely wrong, you've missed a meeting or delays.

every month it's something new.. if people can't do their jobs fire them, that includes AGMs.

[David]

weren't the other departments supposed to do something too

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also why's there a britain flag in this

http://i.imgur.com/O0p8E7W.gif

[Hannah]

A bit harsh, but it would be nice if things were to happen as planned most of the time rather than only some.

If you look at it this way, they can't really postpone it anymore than that though, otherwise it won't be during the wc.

[Samantha]

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=804815&p=8211525#post8211525

there is world cup stuff going on.


but yeah, why is everything postponed I swear every event I look at there's been something gone severely wrong, you've missed a meeting or delays.

every month it's something new.. if people can't do their jobs fire them, that includes AGMs.

When was the last thing delayed (not the tournament, or The Box)? Genuine question, I might just need reminding.

It's not something new every month, well not on the General Management side this is the first thing I've had to delay since I got given the role, Laura only delayed The Box due to not having Internet to do it, what else?

coyote; I agree with you on that one, it's a real shame we've had to postpone it. We were thinking about it (well, it was mentioned), but we decided to try it, unfortunately it hasn't worked in our favour - you win some and lost some.

[Drew]

weren't the other departments supposed to do something too

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also why's there a britain flag in this

http://i.imgur.com/O0p8E7W.gif
Why not? :O

Was supposed to post my graphics competitions today :P

[Hannah]

At the end of the day, if you had to postpone it to prepare for the better, then you can't win.
If you done it on time but it wasn't that great, people would whine - and obviously if you postpone people will also complain. :)

[David]

Why not? :O

Was supposed to post my graphics competitions today :P

the only country from britain that's in the world cup (for now lol) is england

[Drew]

the only country from britain that's in the world cup (for now lol) is england
Oh right, soz haha

[Kyle]

Postponement of world cup events allows habbox to keep up with birthday week and put a bit more planning and hype behind the world cup tournament. Many staff (AND USERS) are finishing up with exams and preparing for summer so it would be illogical to put on event when you know that staff aren't going to be able to host and users aren't going to be available to turn up. The first day of the world cup thing I think there were 2 events and the next day I only saw 1. People weren't turning up -- presumably because they were't fully aware of what was going on -- so it's probably postponed to allow for some time for everybody to get in the know.

forum birthday week is still ongoing.

[scottish]

When was the last thing delayed (not the tournament, or The Box)? Genuine question, I might just need reminding.

It's not something new every month, well not on the General Management side this is the first thing I've had to delay since I got given the role, Laura only delayed The Box due to not having Internet to do it, what else?

coyote; I agree with you on that one, it's a real shame we've had to postpone it. We were thinking about it (well, it was mentioned), but we decided to try it, unfortunately it hasn't worked in our favour - you win some and lost some.

I can't remember off the top of my head but every single month you's fail to do something, whether it's attend a meeting, get something planned properly, get it out on time, ask another fansite not to publish a guide etc.

Do you do anything right?

[Drew]

I can't remember off the top of my head but every single month you's fail to do something, whether it's attend a meeting, get something planned properly, get it out on time, ask another fansite not to publish a guide etc.

Do you do anything right?
Sam did well with the Father's Day event.

[Samantha]

I can't remember off the top of my head but every single month you's fail to do something, whether it's attend a meeting, get something planned properly, get it out on time, ask another fansite not to publish a guide etc.

Do you do anything right?

If we fail to attend a meeting it's usually because none of us are available, and they're strict on who can come and who can't. We've planned stuff properly for a while now (the World Cup tournament doesn't look it, but it was in planning a month before it was due to start). I think the get something out on time was he HabbCrazy event which I didn't know why it wasn't until speaking to Jake as Kitchen needed some changes made to one of the HC rooms. I don't ask fansites to not publish them as I don't mind, sometimes we will ask sometimes we won't though.

I do a lot right, no one can do everything right though!
Drew; that took so long, but it paid off lmao.

[David]

Was supposed to post my graphics competitions today :P

how many

[Drew]

how many
Going to do (at least) 3!

[David]

good man :¬:

[Inseriousity.]

It is weird how "management changes" are being used when they're actually quite inconsequential to the event and it makes it look like there's no ability to multitask. Choosing a manager takes an hour tops if you're being really thorough. From an outsider point of view, it seems there's been a breakdown of communication between management and a lack of supervision to ensure that if you say to a manager "we need more events booked" that you actually check it's been done before the event starts. If it hasn't, you step in yourself and tell the manager off or fire them.

[Phil]

I'm not a liar? Where did I lie lmao scottish;

Don't see why people are giving Sam a hard time here. How do you know this is her fault and not the department managers? As you all know there were also a lot of maangement changes within the past fortnight so that's obviously had an effect on it too.

[scottish]

you said the football betting was the only thing planned for the world cup

[Phil]

you said the football betting was the only thing planned for the world cup

I said from the forum dept

[scottish]

Oh okay, I'll let you off then.

[Inseriousity.]

The events manager is the same, the comps manager is the same. They're the two basic ones you got to get right. everyone else is just decoration. hxl can play a key role in their comps but as they're spontaneous and not necessarily pre-planned, it doesn't even need a consistent manager to mention it. Aside from HxHD who could've planned something (although I'm going to take a wild stab in the dark and say zebbadi wasn't working on anything), the other management changes of the last month would have no effect on the tournament.

[Kardan]

Postponement of world cup events allows habbox to keep up with birthday week and put a bit more planning and hype behind the world cup tournament. Many staff (AND USERS) are finishing up with exams and preparing for summer so it would be illogical to put on event when you know that staff aren't going to be able to host and users aren't going to be available to turn up. The first day of the world cup thing I think there were 2 events and the next day I only saw 1. People weren't turning up -- presumably because they were't fully aware of what was going on -- so it's probably postponed to allow for some time for everybody to get in the know.

forum birthday week is still ongoing.

Your transformation is complete :P

Anyways, we're not even half way through the world cup are we? Plenty of time left.

[zebbadi]

The events manager is the same, the comps manager is the same. They're the two basic ones you got to get right. everyone else is just decoration. hxl can play a key role in their comps but as they're spontaneous and not necessarily pre-planned, it doesn't even need a consistent manager to mention it. Aside from HxHD who could've planned something (although I'm going to take a wild stab in the dark and say zebbadi wasn't working on anything), the other management changes of the last month would have no effect on the tournament.

I actually planned to do a world cup tournament within in the desk, but then sam planned something bigger. For the birthday had events throughout the day planned a sleepover and a special SNQ. Why wouldn't I have anything planned? I actually give a crap, hence why i stepped down.

[Inseriousity.]

Unless you thought of a different idea when you found out sam was doing that then you didn't really have anything planned for this :P
Although if you did, it still would've just been decoration/extra so the main point of that argument still holds.

[lawrawrrr]

It was my suggestion to postpone the event because not as much as been planned and passed on to staff members. Sam did post a thread and there was some discussion about it (this was just before I went away I think, maybe just after when I was still relatively active) but because there was so many other things to focus on, including other big events, like the Birthday which multiple departments took part in.

It's unfair you're blaming Sam because like I said, she did start planning this way in advance, then the managers she was planning it with left. If we go with the "excuse" that HabboxLive lost it's manager who had been planning it and focus on the others: Forum have done something for it, comps have been publishing world-cup themed competitions, events, well you'd have to ask the events manager about that.

I particularly noticed this post:


I can't remember off the top of my head but every single month you's fail to do something, whether it's attend a meeting, get something planned properly, get it out on time, ask another fansite not to publish a guide etc.

Do you do anything right?

We couldn't help the meeting (been through this), we took your suggestions on board and asked if we could send a normal manager instead of an AGM... which we were told we could, so we did. The middle two have been FINE recently, Memorial Day and Fathers Day both went completely to plan, on time (but of course I understand how easy it is to forget the things we do, and do well) and I have explained multiple times about the Box not coming out on time, there was literally absolutely zero, nada, no other option. For the guides point, I believe we've deliberately made the decision to allow fansites to post guides (I definitely argued for that for Memorial Day anyway) because if you say NO GUIDES then they may not even post a "this event exists" - who cares if a few people cheat? If they want to, let them.

[Tom]

It's interesting to see that members of General Management are trying to pass the blame on the resignation or removal of Departmental Manager's from their positions. That shouldn't really be a problem. Even though the manager has left the event all the plans are still there, are they not? It should just take the next Department Manager to step in, get briefed by the member of General Management who is overseeing the whole event (who should know all the goings on anyway, without the need of the Department Managers - just in case something goes wrong, e.g. if the manager falls ill or resigns, in these cases) and then it should be good to go?

Forgive me, I've not actually thoroughly read the whole thread so I'm not 100% sure on the whole goings on, but it's kind of wrong for General Management to pass the blame. General Management should be overseeing every big event that goes on at Habbox one way or another and to let something as small as a manager resigning to get in the way is kind of silly. If they can't handle looking after all departments and run a big event, making note of everything that's going on, I can't really say they should be in their position.

As well as this, I'm sure they shouldn't pass the blame either - even if it isn't 100% their fault. They're at almost the highest point on the hierarchy; if they can't take a few complaints on the chin and act upon them then they, again, shouldn't really be in their position. The whole "it's not me, it's the manager's and staff" attitude is bad.

I want to note again I could be getting the complete wrong end of the stick, so I apologise profusely if I have :)

[Gina]

It's interesting to see that members of General Management are trying to pass the blame on the resignation or removal of Departmental Manager's from their positions. That shouldn't really be a problem. Even though the manager has left the event all the plans are still there, are they not? It should just take the next Department Manager to step in, get briefed by the member of General Management who is overseeing the whole event (who should know all the goings on anyway, without the need of the Department Managers - just in case something goes wrong, e.g. if the manager falls ill or resigns, in these cases) and then it should be good to go?

Forgive me, I've not actually thoroughly read the whole thread so I'm not 100% sure on the whole goings on, but it's kind of wrong for General Management to pass the blame. General Management should be overseeing every big event that goes on at Habbox one way or another and to let something as small as a manager resigning to get in the way is kind of silly. If they can't handle looking after all departments and run a big event, making note of everything that's going on, I can't really say they should be in their position.
with hxl i wasn't passed on the info about the world cup as i was assistant at the time so general management just assumed i knew which is prob more my fault than theirs however it doesn't take much planning or anything for competitions are something djs can obv just get on and do
they don't really need to sit for ages and plan each thing out :P so was fine rly

the events obv play a huge part in it and with the events manager not being here much the staff arent being pushed to host events so theyre not going to lol it wasnt really a good time anyway considering all the birthday plans and whatever so at least now they can focus on one thing then the next rather than mumbling it all together

i asked sam and chris if i could host events because if i return to events i'll just resign and i wasnt gna be management anymore and now senior+ djs are able to do them too so should boost some more activity of events people higher up in hxl

not much had happened for the world cup anyway tbh (yet) like 5 events got hosted idk how many competitons, don't think anyone did hxl competitions yesterday on air so not much bad can come out of it being postponed lol
now people can focus on hxf bday then move onto the football thingy once its over

i believe tom odey should be back too so (hopefully) more events will be hosted

this prob makes no sense and is likely to be completely irrelevant so if it is i do apologise n will now go back to bed

[Drew]

with hxl i wasn't passed on the info about the world cup as i was assistant at the time so general management just assumed i knew which is prob more my fault than theirs however it doesn't take much planning or anything for competitions are something djs can obv just get on and do
they don't really need to sit for ages and plan each thing out :P so was fine rly

the events obv play a huge part in it and with the events manager not being here much the staff arent being pushed to host events so theyre not going to lol it wasnt really a good time anyway considering all the birthday plans and whatever so at least now they can focus on one thing then the next rather than mumbling it all together

i asked sam and chris if i could host events because if i return to events i'll just resign and i wasnt gna be management anymore and now senior+ djs are able to do them too so should boost some more activity of events people higher up in hxl

not much had happened for the world cup anyway tbh (yet) like 5 events got hosted idk how many competitons, don't think anyone did hxl competitions yesterday on air so not much bad can come out of it being postponed lol
now people can focus on hxf bday then move onto the football thingy once its over

i believe tom odey should be back too so (hopefully) more events will be hosted

this prob makes no sense and is likely to be completely irrelevant so if it is i do apologise n will now go back to bed
I believe Tom is away for three weeks :o

[Gina]

I believe Tom is away for three weeks :o

oh awkkk maybe not then ;p
at least if management are stepping in they can put more focus into it
if theyre doing birthday stuff atm then having to run events ontop prob isnt helpful along with all their other duties *

[Inseriousity.]

Why are people mentioning the birthday as if all the managers are somehow involved. By looks of things, it's just something Phil is doing and clearly he needed to co-operate with HxHD/HxL management to sort out the takeovers but once that's agreed, it's just a case of posting a thread for staff to explain it and that's their role in the matter sorted.

I think we can all agree when there's no HxL DJs taking part, no world cup themed comps organised (well I did 1 but it was because I posted it late - oopsie - and knew there was a tournament on) and very little events (well done mainly to mdport. and gina for hosting) that postponing it was a good idea. It's more concerning that it had to even be an option in the first place when there has clearly been a huge communication problem which has nothing to do with management resigning (because out of those three, only gina resigned and that was yesterday) and more to do with general management not checking in with said managers to ensure things were prepared and once they found out it wasn't then they could a) sort it out or b) postpone without anyone even realising until it'd been sorted.

[Gina]

Why are people mentioning the birthday as if all the managers are somehow involved. By looks of things, it's just something Phil is doing and clearly he needed to co-operate with HxHD/HxL management to sort out the takeovers but once that's agreed, it's just a case of posting a thread for staff to explain it and that's their role in the matter sorted.

I think we can all agree when there's no HxL DJs taking part, no world cup themed comps organised (well I did 1 but it was because I posted it late - oopsie - and knew there was a tournament on) and very little events (well done mainly to mdport. and gina for hosting) that postponing it was a good idea. It's more concerning that it had to even be an option in the first place when there has clearly been a huge communication problem which has nothing to do with management resigning (because out of those three, only gina resigned and that was yesterday) and more to do with general management not checking in with said managers to ensure things were prepared and once they found out it wasn't then they could a) sort it out or b) postpone without anyone even realising until it'd been sorted.

oh my bad I thought management were involved in the Birthday thing :P sorrrryy
yeah the world cup thing HxL staff only found out about on like Sunday I think? I wasn't aware it was even going on because info wasn't passed onto me which is probably why no competitions took place but then it's also my fault for not acc asking them whats going on and telling the staff to do the comps so sorry haha I'll take responsibility on HxL side :P

Only reason I was hosting because I wasn't allowed to host as obv I wasn't a manager anymore so asked Sammm and she made it so Head/Senior DJs can now host too but we only found out Monday night meaning a lot of them didn't really get a chance anyway which is another reason why it's a good idea like obv you can't expect them host however I'll def host when it comes to it (hopefully with my football themed comps *+*+*) and I'm sure with new HxL management they're aware they should push the DJs to do comps whilst on air Calum0812; OldLoveSong;

I don't really know about other depts so sorrry this post was more bout HxL side

[Inseriousity.]

I don't think you need to ask, gina. I mean sure I'm guessing you were assistant when the thread was posted about it but it's the responsibility of those organising it to check everything is sorted, not the other way round. I think it's fair to assume that if you don't hear about something it's not being done for whatever reason. As you said in your first post though, HxL DJs don't exactly plan their comps anyway so it's not too much of a problem if something wasn't organised, it was easily fixable. :)

[Gina]

I don't think you need to ask, gina. I mean sure I'm guessing you were assistant when the thread was posted about it but it's the responsibility of those organising it to check everything is sorted, not the other way round. I think it's fair to assume that if you don't hear about something it's not being done for whatever reason. As you said in your first post though, HxL DJs don't exactly plan their comps anyway so it's not too much of a problem if something wasn't organised, it was easily fixable. :)
I don't even remember there being a thread about it in HxL management thing :P like there was thread about the birthday but I never had a convo with anyone about the world cup thing
like only thing I really knew was Henderz wanted to do something on air (great manager obv)

Then again it might've been posted and I have really bad memory or I missed or or something

[Tom]

with hxl i wasn't passed on the info about the world cup as i was assistant at the time so general management just assumed i knew which is prob more my fault than theirs however it doesn't take much planning or anything for competitions are something djs can obv just get on and do
they don't really need to sit for ages and plan each thing out :P so was fine rly

the events obv play a huge part in it and with the events manager not being here much the staff arent being pushed to host events so theyre not going to lol it wasnt really a good time anyway considering all the birthday plans and whatever so at least now they can focus on one thing then the next rather than mumbling it all together

i asked sam and chris if i could host events because if i return to events i'll just resign and i wasnt gna be management anymore and now senior+ djs are able to do them too so should boost some more activity of events people higher up in hxl

not much had happened for the world cup anyway tbh (yet) like 5 events got hosted idk how many competitons, don't think anyone did hxl competitions yesterday on air so not much bad can come out of it being postponed lol
now people can focus on hxf bday then move onto the football thingy once its over

i believe tom odey should be back too so (hopefully) more events will be hosted

this prob makes no sense and is likely to be completely irrelevant so if it is i do apologise n will now go back to bed

You shouldn't believe that's your fault, they should have checked if you knew really not just assumed.

If a manager is away for almost a whole month, shouldn't there be an assistant, or a temporary manager? Or is there still the whole "I will look after the department myself whilst never doing my General Management duties properly"?

As well as that, it's again General Management's fault for not focusing on one thing or not being able to set up 2 events so the whole "oh it's the birthday week, too" reason is kind of void - especially since they should have known about that and planned well in advance anyway. Kind of silly, considering there are 4 members of General Management and 2 large events. Shouldn't really be hard and it shouldn't have really caused postponing. I could be wrong.

[RyRy]

Habbox didn't plan for the World Cup?

Well it's not like they've had 4 years to prepare for it. Think I'll let it go.

[Absently]

Honestly, myself and Kyle were not involved in anything about the World Cup (apart from us knowing we're allowed host spontaneous events), there was nothing posted about it and nothing said really.

Although, HxHD is currently involved in the birthday hosting the sleepathon (which was Zebbadi's idea) on friday :)

[Inseriousity.]

there was probably a thread in the manager forum for all the managers. that's where these discussions usually start but if that alone was used, nothing would ever get done. they're posted so early managers have moved on by time event comes round so agm has to keep talking about it and checking up on it.

[lemons]

IM SO EXCITED FOR THE HXHD SLEEPOVER! THErE GOING TO BE MARSHMALLOWS CAMPFIRE SONGS SPOOKY STORIES! excellent

[Gina]

there was probably a thread in the manager forum for all the managers. that's where these discussions usually start but if that alone was used, nothing would ever get done. they're posted so early managers have moved on by time event comes round so agm has to keep talking about it and checking up on it.

oh yes im sure there was one in the acc managers onee but in the hxl one me and james actually discussed our ideas for stuff and general management would then join in and say their opinion etc
i know thats what happened for the birthday thing because me and james started planning for that but james left and it was like o

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IM SO EXCITED FOR THE HXHD SLEEPOVER! THErE GOING TO BE MARSHMALLOWS CAMPFIRE SONGS SPOOKY STORIES! excellent

omg yes im excited too!! except my habbo ALWAYS disconnects like auto logs me off so ima be sad if it does that
AND IF MY STEPDAD/SISTER STEALS THE INTERNET ;lll

[lemons]

omg yes im excited too!! except my habbo ALWAYS disconnects like auto logs me off so ima be sad if it does that
AND IF MY STEPDAD/SISTER STEALS THE INTERNET ;lll

same i will disconnect in first 10 min but shud be good fun to watch to

i expect lots of laughs and fights ! :)

[Inseriousity.]

I didn't know about the sleepathon, didn't recheck the thread afterwards so apologies for saying it was just Phil (although I still think Tom's right).

[Phil]

I didn't know about the sleepathon, didn't recheck the thread afterwards so apologies for saying it was just Phil (although I still think Tom's right).

ah it was still my idea ;)

[RealClifford]

/facepalm

So what did we all learn?
Never just assume someone knows something. Assumptions are dangerous things, therefore just avoid assuming.
I think if people learn that, most of this could actually be avoided.

(This is purely from an outside point of view just skimming through this thread)

Hopefully the Management teams get some form of solidarity soon, to actually get plans ready for the next big event.

[Matt]

I didn't even know the tournament had been postponed until reading this.

I'd have said postponing the event was a good idea as the Birthday and World Cup things kind of overlapped and the Forum Birthday was perhaps bigger than the whole World Cup Tournament. Especially with Events only having around 5 normal staff and the Manager being away for a period of time, now was not the best time to hold such a tournament.

Let's hope we'll have more events staff in July ready to host Events >.> woo