taking away our hxss points?

[myles]

Day 1 of HxSS and we already have issues of rigging and cheating. I thought we would learn from last year when Inseriousity tried to strip deserving and hardworking players of their points due to unbooked events. Thankfully, due to overwhelming backlash and controversy the points were awarded to the winners last year. Yet, we aren’t even 24 hours into the competition and winners of HxL competitions are being refused their winnings as the competitions they were taking part in were unbooked. Could this be the work of powerful senior members at Habbox conspiring and doing anything they can to eradicate certain team’s chances?
I myself won 200 points last night for blue team, yet today I’ve discovered I will not be receiving these points due to no fault of my own. How is this fair? We can’t let this happen again. I’m sure you would all agree had this been your own points being stolen from you. Please post your thoughts and discuss. x

P.S. I also believe a majority of other players, also from other teams, have had their points taken away due to this.

[James]

The host of the competitions knew they had to book them, yet they didn't. You're right, it's not your fault, but Chris has made up his mind & it most likely won't be changed. As you say, it's not only you who lost out so it's best we just look ahead to the rest of HxSS. As you say, it's only day 1.

[Kyle]

Impromptu events are often what keeps hxss so busy and if there is no event booked at the time then I think it's fair to say that nobody's toes are being stepped on and the community are being given what they want. There is 1 events manager an 1 senior staff member adding events to the timetable so naturally sometimes events aren't going to be booked on time, but to come in the middle of or after the event after prizes have been given out and say points are void is a little bit cruel.

Don't allow djs to give 200 points in 1 go, make them do at least 2 comps. It's ridiculous that u can play 10 events with 10 rounds, win 1 round of each and score the same points as someone who sends a randomly generated answer to hxl

Allow events to be hosted without being prebooked days in advance so long as they are requested on the booking thread an a CNb post is made 20-30mins prior. Not everybody knows when they'll e able to host.

Keep the points back from last night tho cos majority were blue anyway

[James]

Impromptu events are often what keeps hxss so busy and if there is no event booked at the time then I think it's fair to say that nobody's toes are being stepped on and the community are being given what they want. There is 1 events manager an 1 senior staff member adding events to the timetable so naturally sometimes events aren't going to be booked on time, but to come in the middle of or after the event after prizes have been given out and say points are void is a little bit cruel.

Don't allow djs to give 200 points in 1 go, make them do at least 2 comps. It's ridiculous that u can play 10 events with 10 rounds, win 1 round of each and score the same points as someone who sends a randomly generated answer to hxl

Allow events to be hosted without being prebooked days in advance so long as they are requested on the booking thread an a CNb post is made 20-30mins prior. Not everybody knows when they'll e able to host.

Keep the points back from last night tho cos majority were blue anyway
Events can be hosted at last minute. Even if they aren't added on the calendar when the time comes to host, as long as they have booked it and posted the CNB (or got someone else to for them) then the event can go ahead as normal.
The only reason these points were void is because it wasn't booked AT ALL. If they were booked a little late, that's fine, but not booking at all will result in them being discounted.

Just the way it is, sorry.

[sex]

200 points in one go shouldn't be allowed as it, coupled together with the fact that they were unbooked events hosted by a blue DJ and blue winners HMM

[Kyle]

What about James sparks event earlier did he book it

[James]

What about James sparks event earlier did he book it
Nope, that's why they weren't counted.

[Kyle]

Ugh James idiot !!! Reporting

[Yawn]

Stop punishing the players who are keeping this dying forum alive for 2 weeks a year

[Inseriousity.]

personally I've always thought hxl should be 50 points a comp rather than the 200 points spread out thing.
It's ironic they're doing the same thing I did last year yet I was overruled (I think not booking til halfway through the event or posting a CNB can be easily abused). Not very consistent there. Last minute events are bound to happen, a CNB was posted 2 minutes before so it could've easily been allowed. As for HxL, I think that was fair although again Jazz's comps were at least advertised somewhere beforehand even if they weren't officially booked. As long as they are advertised beforehand (however small) I don't think it matters too much if they're not booked til later.

[Hannah]

Maybe staff need to be briefed on how it works then. They're only gaining enemies.

But I agree with the 200 points at once being ridiculous for a randomly generated answer being chosen.

[Kardan]

personally I've always thought hxl should be 50 points a comp rather than the 200 points spread out thing.
It's ironic they're doing the same thing I did last year yet I was overruled (I think not booking til halfway through the event or posting a CNB can be easily abused). Not very consistent there. Last minute events are bound to happen, a CNB was posted 2 minutes before so it could've easily been allowed. As for HxL, I think that was fair although again Jazz's comps were at least advertised somewhere beforehand even if they weren't officially booked. As long as they are advertised beforehand (however small) I don't think it matters too much if they're not booked til later.

If they are at least advertised beforehand, why aren't they booked? I can totally understand last minute events etc. but if someone has it already planned then booking should be the first thing that comes to mind.

[James]

Maybe staff need to be briefed on how it works then. They're only gaining enemies.

But I agree with the 200 points at once being ridiculous for a randomly generated answer being chosen.
If people actually read the threads in the staff forum, then everything is explained there :P Its their own fault they haven't.

[Kyle]

If they are at least advertised beforehand, why aren't they booked? I can totally understand last minute events etc. but if someone has it already planned then booking should be the first thing that comes to mind.

Because there's no real need to book immediately if a CNb post is made and people are coming into the event, there are other things to worry about than posting in a private booking thread that probably won't get updated onto the timetable until the event has actually finished

[Hannah]

If people actually read the threads in the staff forum, then everything is explained there :P Its their own fault they haven't.

Perhaps brief them on how to read, then - 'cause clearly they aren't. ;)

[Kardan]

Because there's no real need to book immediately if a CNb post is made and people are coming into the event, there are other things to worry about than posting in a private booking thread that probably won't get updated onto the timetable until the event has actually finished

Oh, I thought Book = CNB post. My bad.

In that case, I totally see everyone's point. If it's on the CNB, surely that's more important than being on the private staff timetable?

[Inseriousity.]

If they are at least advertised beforehand, why aren't they booked? I can totally understand last minute events etc. but if someone has it already planned then booking should be the first thing that comes to mind.

if youre on habbo, there isnt an event on and people want 1, the first thing you do is say yep im doing it, set up as quickly as possible, post cnb so people know then book it. booking it is just bureaucratic so all the other stuff comes first

[Jssy]

I didn't think 200 points were allowed to be given out at once? The forum states 2 rounds = 100 points per and 10 rounds = 20 points per etc. My radio gtp I did 5 rounds and gave out 40 points per gtp and my event I gave out 70 points per, definitely not 200 points.

[Yawn]

The inconsistency is suspicious like Myles said

I do wonder wats going on behind the scenes and wat the shady intentions are

[Jurv]

can't you all just shut up and have fun |-)

[lawrawrrr]

There are very clear rules about event booking, point descriptions etc - all staff should be able to follow them! They're written out quite simply.

- - - Updated - - -

I understand you might all say it's buzzkill or whatever but it's so we can monitor stuff to make it fair

[Red]

I think impromtu events are allowed as long as its posted in booking thread and cnb posted before the hour
Also what about jazz on air comp? She had booked that so why have points been disallowed? There was cnb posted!!! so annoying

[Yawn]

So wat was diff last year when there was a change of plan and the points weren't voided

[Chris]

James' event earlier today was not booked. He was asked by Sam to book it and refused to do so, so if you want to blame someone then go and blame him instead of putting the blame on general management.

We will also look into the 200 points for hxl competitions and make changes as necessary.

[Jazz]

hi so i was told on air competitions didnt need to be booked (by a snr events on the booking thread) and had my points taken away because of that

on my comps front all my points and winners have had their points allowed again because i did in fact book them

as i said to general management, i was told that my points were disallowed through gossip & wasn't told by a single member of upper staff or general management. I'd quite like to know who gave the information to everyone but not me, because it apparently wasn't general management. hmm.

[Kyle]

hi so i was told on air competitions didnt need to be booked (by a snr events on the booking thread) and had my points taken away because of that

on my comps front all my points and winners have had their points allowed again because i did in fact book them

as i said to general management, i was told that my points were disallowed through gossip & wasn't told by a single member of upper staff or general management. I'd quite like to know who gave the information to everyone but not me, because it apparently wasn't general management. hmm.
it was chris

[Reality]

I had 2 minutes, before the event started and needed to make sure with Kelly it was ok to host within the room, therefore by the time I had finished this I had time to make a community CNB so that people could find the event. Unfortunetly you can't add the event at the end, hence the reason why points were disallowed. I gave out credits anyhow. Don't get me wrong I found it a little annoying how because I failed to do it the rest of the 20 players weren't allowed their teams points. For the hour I hosted for!

I'm sorry for that, but after a somewhat lengthy "discussion" with lawrawrrr; things have been resolved and I now know this for future reference. It's my first day after being away for a week or so, and haven't really seen the rules but I did look briefly through the Rules & Regulations, not noticing it's stated separately that you have to book before, you host.


Ugh James idiot !!! Reporting

[Chris]

it was chris

That incident has nothing to do with me. :P

[Reality]

No you have to make a post in the booking thread, BEFORE you can make a CNB otherwise it's invalid anyway.
Oh, I thought Book = CNB post. My bad.

In that case, I totally see everyone's point. If it's on the CNB, surely that's more important than being on the private staff timetable?

[lawrawrrr]

I had 2 minutes, before the event started and needed to make sure with Kelly it was ok to host within the room, therefore by the time I had finished this I had time to make a community CNB so that people could find the event. Unfortunetly you can't add the event at the end, hence the reason why points were disallowed. I gave out credits anyhow. Don't get me wrong I found it a little annoying how because I failed to do it the rest of the 20 players weren't allowed their teams points. For the hour I hosted for!

I'm sorry for that, but after a somewhat lengthy "discussion" with @lawrawrrr (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=61966); things have been resolved and I now know this for future reference. It's my first day after being away for a week or so, and haven't really seen the rules but I did look briefly through the Rules & Regulations, not noticing it's stated separately that you have to book before, you host.
It's in the first sentence of the 'READ THIS BEFORE HOSTING' thread and the first post of the booking thread too!

Sorry about what happened with Jazz, but we've let everyone know what needed to be done. Remember, NOTHING is official until you are told by either me, Chris or Sam (or Matt once he's back). Don't listen to gossip all the time!

[Reality]

I never purposly ignored this requested. There was many other text bubble going on in the room at the time Samanfa was trying to speak to me. Would of been helpful if there was a whisper or a Skype message to help alert me directly, whilst trying to control the event and make sure things were going how they should.
James' event earlier today was not booked. He was asked by Sam to book it and refused to do so, so if you want to blame someone then go and blame him instead of putting the blame on general management.

We will also look into the 200 points for hxl competitions and make changes as necessary.

[Chippiewill]

I'm happy that management are hardballing this, it sucks for the people who lose out on the points but we don't want organisers to get sloppy on bookings and it's only the first day.

[lawrawrrr]

Oh, I thought Book = CNB post. My bad.

In that case, I totally see everyone's point. If it's on the CNB, surely that's more important than being on the private staff timetable?
As long as it's posted in the booking thread it can then straight away be put in the CNB and started, you don't have to wait necessarily for someone to add it to the panel! But there are reasons we need it posted - so we can check the event is OK, we can keep an eye on it, make sure it doesn't clash, etc etc. Just need it posted in there first, only takes around 20 seconds!

[Kardan]

As long as it's posted in the booking thread it can then straight away be put in the CNB and started, you don't have to wait necessarily for someone to add it to the panel! But there are reasons we need it posted - so we can check the event is OK, we can keep an eye on it, make sure it doesn't clash, etc etc. Just need it posted in there first, only takes around 20 seconds!

Don't worry, I understand both sides of the argument. You think staff would be able to read basic instructions, but at the same time I can see why participants would be annoyed when from their point of view, everything is seemingly fine with it being posted on the CNB etc.

[myles]

lets just hope management see sense and give me back my rightfully earned 200 points. i am devastated.

[Yawn]

lets just hope management see sense and give me back my rightfully earned 200 points. i am devastated.

God I hope so they did u wrong

[FlyingJesus]

So have my points that I stayed up late promoting Habbox to win not been counted? That's fun, can always rely on Habbox to slacken all rules at times when we actually need them for events to function and then tighten up at times when it's as active as we could hope for. Top management always knowing the best ways to send us down the drain

[Samantha]

JamesSparky; I would have allowed it to be booked at the end, but you didn't even ask that - when I said you would need to book it or face the points not counting you said "I don't care." so with that attitude, I'm sorry it doesn't wash. You could have got someone to post for you if you were too busy too, but at the end of the day it's been sorted now and it only takes a minute to book which could have been done between rounds. At least all staff members know now for future reference, I'm just glad it happened on day one as people might just have needed reinforcing on the rules.

I began adding all the points earlier, and I added near enough all the on air competitions then realised that they weren't booked. I double checked with Chris on whether they needed to be booked or not and got told yes, therefore I had to remove the points. If they were booked after the hour (before we found out) that'd have been fine, but unfortunately they weren't.

lesbon; I was looking down the list as I knew you had booked some, I'll have a look again if you'd like me to. I was under the impression that the competitions you hosted didn't match the hours you'd booked for, so it could just be a misunderstanding there!

All staff members have now been PMed about it, and we shouldn't have problems like this for the rest of HxSS hopefully! It is a shame that people lost out on points because of it, but it's in the rules that you need to book. If anyone wans to contact one of us about it though we will look into it no problem. Also, we've included that instead of the 10 minutes after the events due to start you can book, for the duration of HxSS this has now changed to half hour as it can be difficult if you have a busy room!

I believe all teams didn't gain points due to that, and there are now underhand tactics going on - just rules that shouldn't be broken.

[myles]

so can u let this slide and just give the points back because we did earn them to be fair

[Jazz]

@lesbon (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=75795); I was looking down the list as I knew you had booked some, I'll have a look again if you'd like me to. I was under the impression that the competitions you hosted didn't match the hours you'd booked for, so it could just be a misunderstanding there


laura sorted it already

[Reality]

[15:35:35] laura: if you added it during the event that would have been OK - not the rules - but OK
[15:35:39] laura: adding at the end is a complete no go???
JamesSparky; I would have allowed it to be booked at the end, but you didn't even ask that - when I said you would need to book it or face the points not counting you said "I don't care." so with that attitude, I'm sorry it doesn't wash. You could have got someone to post for you if you were too busy too, but at the end of the day it's been sorted now and it only takes a minute to book which could have been done between rounds. At least all staff members know now for future reference, I'm just glad it happened on day one as people might just have needed reinforcing on the rules.

I began adding all the points earlier, and I added near enough all the on air competitions then realised that they weren't booked. I double checked with Chris on whether they needed to be booked or not and got told yes, therefore I had to remove the points. If they were booked after the hour (before we found out) that'd have been fine, but unfortunately they weren't.

lesbon; I was looking down the list as I knew you had booked some, I'll have a look again if you'd like me to. I was under the impression that the competitions you hosted didn't match the hours you'd booked for, so it could just be a misunderstanding there!

All staff members have now been PMed about it, and we shouldn't have problems like this for the rest of HxSS hopefully! It is a shame that people lost out on points because of it, but it's in the rules that you need to book. If anyone wans to contact one of us about it though we will look into it no problem. Also, we've included that instead of the 10 minutes after the events due to start you can book, for the duration of HxSS this has now changed to half hour as it can be difficult if you have a busy room!

I believe all teams didn't gain points due to that, and there are now underhand tactics going on - just rules that shouldn't be broken.

[myles]

i think general management all have different ideas about how this event is going to run???

[FlyingJesus]

It's ok to change events half way through them without warning but not to do a comp that everyone knows you're gonna do *+*+*+*+*

[myles]

mess

[lawrawrrr]

Let's make it clear, all events need to be booked in advance of them being hosted.

As James seemed confused and there were a lot of players, Sam gave him the opportunity to post late into his event, but this is not a regular thing - especially now a PM has been sent to all staff letting them know the rules crystal clear. It was just that one instance so we didn't waste people's time hosting or playing, unfortunately the event still wasn't booked after the warning was sent.

Let's just forget what happened and move on from here in, it's been raised in public, everyone knows the rules and there are no more excuses. Noone is at a massive disadvantage because of it, you've still got 13 days to make up the few points that you left!

Ross' event changing halfway through was done the right way: the community asked for something, he, after being reminded, contacted an AGM (specifically community agm which makes it even better), the CNB was changed and a lot of people were told through the message system. Bish bash bosh.

[FlyingJesus]

What we're 4th instead of 1st because of it I'd call that a disadvantage

[Inseriousity.]

3 teams being sore losers cos 1 team is dominating victory in an event is not the community deciding!

[lawrawrrr]

It's not like points aren't being counted...

[Inseriousity.]

but they have been diluted. if an event has been decided to not be good enough, it's only an hour, it should be finished then never do it again to avoid teams ganging up on events theyre not good at to change to events theyre good at.

[myles]

i just think its unfair tht u have taken them 200 points away from me! the fact that hardly no dj's booked yesterday shows there was lack of communication in the department. as a user and a player in this torni, why should i be effected by this?

[FlyingJesus]

It's not like points aren't being counted...

Errrm that's exactly what's happening lol

[lawrawrrr]

not from ross' event which is what I was referring to

and you're not losing points you see, you never had them

if someone who wasn't from habbox hosted an event and said LOL WIN HxSS POINTS we wouldn't give you them, so these aren't any different in my eyes. From now on everything will be done properly though! It's not a big disadvantage.

[myles]

not from ross' event which is what I was referring to

and you're not losing points you see, you never had them

if someone who wasn't from habbox hosted an event and said LOL WIN HxSS POINTS we wouldn't give you them, so these aren't any different in my eyes. From now on everything will be done properly though! It's not a big disadvantage.

but danny is from habbox!!!!!!

[lawrawrrr]

his event wasn't official though, so it's the same difference!

[FlyingJesus]

Everything done properly like people being given extra points because they "would have won"

And if you can't tell the difference between a BOOKED dj slot and someone randomly claiming to be a host that's a bit worrying

[myles]

i really dont see the big deal! he booked the slot to dj in and he did a competition stating that it was for hxss on air and he posted in the thread!!! what more do u want?!?!?!

[Yawn]

Justice for blues

Also there have been no hxl on air comps all afternoon I waste hours of my life listening to the radio when I could watch TV or listen my own music 😔

[lawrawrrr]

booked dj slot =/= booked dj event

End of the day, points won't be allowed, people know for future reference. There's nothing more that can be done about it.