The HxF Mole 3 - Task 12: Safe Cracker

[Kardan]

In front of you is a safe, and inside is 20 days of group VIP. On the safe, are 25 panels, and each one of these panels must be opened for the safe to open.

To open a panel, you must enter a number and a letter. Each panel has a unique number and a unique letter. The numbers go from 1 to 25, and the letters go from A to Y.

The highest number is 25 and the highest letter is Y.

Diagonal lines refer to the main diagonal lines going from top left to bottom right, and bottom left to top right.

Each panel that is opened may give you a clue to open further panels.

Each time an incorrect number or letter is entered for a panel, a day of group VIP will be lost.

To enter a number and a letter for a panel, simply post the panel number, and the number and letter you wish to enter.

The panels are numbered as expected, left to right, top to bottom, with panel number 1 in the top left, panel 5 in the top right and panel 25 in the bottom right.

So, an example would be:



Panel 3: 23K


To start you off, the code for the first panel has already been entered, it was 1A.

Good Luck.

http://i.imgur.com/VPIfOll.png

[CrazyLemurs]

I get the feeling clue for 1A means the right column is:

21Y
25X
23W
25V
25U

right?

[scottish]

Panel 3: 23K

[Kyle]

dead brain nope i'll do a different task

[buttons]

Panel 3: 23K
have u heard of discussion ugh ur annoying

can i quit from the mole

kyle this is prob easiest one lmao :(

[Inseriousity.]

im confused how you came up with those numbers alex, each panel has a unique number and letter

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and thats the example scott omg!

[buttons]

i quit

[Kardan]

Panel 3: 23K

Wrong. 19 days of VIP remain.

[buttons]

do the confirm thing again and just ignore everything scott says

[scottish]

1A hint is "from top to bottom, the cells in the right column consist of the highest numbers in ascending order and the highest letters in reverse order"

so panel 5, 10, 15, 20, 25 are the top to bottom right column. each cell contains highest numbers and highest letters in reverse order (so 25Y, 24X, etc)?

idk

[Kyle]

scott stick to computers you're awful

[CrazyLemurs]

exactly what I just said scottish;
inseriousity read the intro info lmao

[Kyle]

im calling in some help from an expert

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panel 5: 21y
panel 10: 22x
panel 15: 23w
panel 20: 24v
panel 25: 25u

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CrazyLemurs; why 25x

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panel 25: 25u
Kardan;

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this is essentially sudoku is it not

[Kyle]

Aiden update it Ong

[Inseriousity.]

yes kyle thats what i was getting, alex and scott were confusing me

[CrazyLemurs]

sorry might have zoned out kyle lol

[Kyle]

btw can we request more than one panel at once

[CrazyLemurs]

Panel 5: 21Y

[Kardan]

http://i.imgur.com/IrUH1h7.png

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http://i.imgur.com/ZBB7k2E.png

[Kyle]

panel 10: 22x
panel 15: 23w
panel 20: 24v

can we do them all at once lol

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that clue matches 23w (23rd letter) so makes sense

[scottish]

so

panel 7, panel 13, and panel 24 are either 4x, 9x, 16x where x is a random letter, not letter X

[Kyle]

so

panel 7, panel 13, and panel 24 are either 4x, 9x, 16x where x is a random letter, not letter X
go do the other tasks scott

[scottish]

no, the 1 > 25 diagonals are square numbers he said, 1 being sq number of 1, 5 being 25, so obviously 4 9 and 16 are there in a random order. READ KYLE READ.

[Kyle]

you arent ruining this one we need vip you moley basrard

[Kardan]

panel 10: 22x
panel 15: 23w
panel 20: 24v

can we do them all at once lol

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that clue matches 23w (23rd letter) so makes sense

http://i.imgur.com/17uyp3j.png

[scottish]

read it all sq numbers appear ina single diagonal line ;l

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ok so panel 7, 13 and 24 are either;

4E, 4I, 4O
9E, 9I, 9O
16E, 16I, 16O

[Kyle]

panel 13: 9I

[CrazyLemurs]

so panel 7, 13 and 19 are all square numbers with an undisclosed letter
panel 13 is either 4D, 9I or 16P

not necessarily in order kyle GO AWAY

[Kyle]

this is my kind of task

[scottish]

it's not you just lost us a day vip noob

[Inseriousity.]

so if the sq numbers appear in diagonal line and the vowels appear in the same diagonal line (cos that's where A and U is too)

it's 4e, 4i, 4u
9e, 9i, 9u
16e, 16i, 16u

will look at other clues see if we can narrow it down

[CrazyLemurs]

u sneak kyle :l
but yes 13 is 9I

[Kyle]

it has to be 9I as diagonal is vowels duh lol

[Kardan]

panel 13: 9I

http://i.imgur.com/kz9m1Mm.png

[scottish]

ye u edited ;ll

[CrazyLemurs]

panel 21 (bottom left) MUST be 15 something, as it must be divisible by 3 AND a multiple of 5

[scottish]

yes

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http://lexet.net/ZBB7k2E.png

i have that atm

[CrazyLemurs]

Panel 21: 15B

[Inseriousity.]

so panel 21 is 5B, 10B, 15B, 20B

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omg are you guys just taking lucky guesses or am I not connecting the clues here

[Kyle]

L - can't be in it as the top cell is A plus used already
A - yes
C - yes
I - can't be in it as vowels are elsewhere
G - yes
O - can't be in it as vowels are elsewhere
L - yes
E - can't be in it as vowels are elsewhere
B - yes

so top to bottom the left column is A C G L B

we know that the bottom left number is a multiple of 3 and a multiple of 5o the bottom left panel (21) is 15B and that the third row's letter matches it's number so panel 11 is 7G

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panel 21: 15B
panel 11: 7g

[Inseriousity.]

oh i didnt see the divisible by 3 clue. that makes sense then

[scottish]

http://lexet.net/ZBB7k2E.png

do i have anything wrong

[CrazyLemurs]

panels 9 and 17 could be 18 as well, as that's a multiple of 3 not already used

[scottish]

sorted

[Kardan]

L - can't be in it as the top cell is A plus used already
A - yes
C - yes
I - can't be in it as vowels are elsewhere
G - yes
O - can't be in it as vowels are elsewhere
L - yes
E - can't be in it as vowels are elsewhere
B - yes

so top to bottom the left column is A C G L B

we know that the bottom left number is a multiple of 3 and a multiple of 5o the bottom left panel (21) is 15B and that the third row's letter matches it's number so panel 11 is 7G

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panel 21: 15B
panel 11: 7g

http://i.imgur.com/pe37GPv.png

[CrazyLemurs]

panel 12 must be H as that comes between G and I

[Kyle]

since row three is letter = number and from 7g we know that letters are alphabetical across a row only H can fit in between G and I so panel 12 is 8H

[CrazyLemurs]

panel 22 is 20 and panel 24 is 10
15+20=25+10
therefore panel 23 is 5

[Kyle]

panel 12: 8h

let's bash this out in 10mins

[scottish]

http://lexet.net/pe37GPv.png

[Kyle]

http://lexet.net/pe37GPv.png
cant have 16I in panel 19 as there's an I already, same with panel 7

and ones with 3 6 18 could also be 12

[Kardan]

since row three is letter = number and from 7g we know that letters are alphabetical across a row only H can fit in between G and I so panel 12 is 8H

http://i.imgur.com/8iJCFSL.png

[Kyle]

alphabetical across rows
E comes before L
vowel in row L is O
vowel in row C is E

so panel 7 is 4E or 16E

19 is 4O or 16O

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since rows 1 to 4 have consonants in column 5 that clue's on about row 5 so row 5 consonants are in the first half

since that vowel on the fourth row is O and the leftmost one on that row is L the only two that can fit between are M and N

update it scott so it's easier to work out pls

[scottish]

http://lexet.net/pe37GPv.png

anything else to update i'm reading new one now

[CrazyLemurs]

panels 22 through 24 have the letters D, F, J and M to split between them

[scottish]

http://lexet.net/pe37GPv.png

[Kyle]

http://lexet.net/pe37GPv.png

anything else to update i'm reading new one now
LMNOV 4th row

[scottish]

okay sorted

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should we risk it 4o/16o for panel 19

[Kyle]

no it's all workable

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give me a sec let me think

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consonants in the first half of the alphabet are:
B C D F G H J K L M

we've used B C G H M L which leaves D F J K but we're not allowed to use K in the bottom row so we know those letters are in order D F J

panel 22: 20D
panel 23: 15F
panel 24: 10J

cause they have to be alphabetical left to right

[scottish]

okay am i missing something, atm we have;

Panel 6 - ()c
Panel 7 - 4E/16E
Panel 9 - 3()/6()/12()/18()
Panel 16 - ()L
Panel 17 - 3M/6M/12M/18M
Panel 18 - ()N
PAnel 19 - 4O/16O
Panel 21 - 20D/20F/20J
Panel 22 - 15D/15F/15J
Panel 23 - 10D/10F/10J

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doesn't say it's in order though does it?

[Kyle]

dont format it like that it confuses me

[CrazyLemurs]

panel 22: 20D
panel 23: 15F
panel 24: 10J

[Circadia]

7G says that all letters are alphabetical left to right so the bottom row surely is
15B, 20D, 15F, 10J, 25U
?

[scottish]

lol how do you know it's in alphabetical order though? it doesn't say and 7G would just be a guess that it's this row (as 7g/8h/9i are in order too)

[Circadia]

Never mind alex got it :')

[scottish]

7G could be relating to the 7G-23W row though, not necessarily the bottom :P

[Circadia]

The clue for 7G says it is? The wording of it assumes so

[scottish]

'across a single row'

row 3 has G, H, I, (), W

so it could be that row too? :P

[Kyle]

7G could be relating to the 7G-23W row though, not necessarily the bottom :P
you haven't got all the clues we've got on your thing :P

[scottish]

yeah i'm only missing 8H

wait, does 7G mean its across EVERY row, or just one?

[CrazyLemurs]

I believe every row, scott

[Kardan]

no it's all workable

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give me a sec let me think

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consonants in the first half of the alphabet are:
B C D F G H J K L M

we've used B C G H M L which leaves D F J K but we're not allowed to use K in the bottom row so we know those letters are in order D F J

panel 22: 20D
panel 23: 15F
panel 24: 10J

cause they have to be alphabetical left to right

http://i.imgur.com/qd47Zq8.png

15F is wrong. 18 days of VIP remain.

[Circadia]

I assume it's every row due to it using 'always' rather than stating that it's a single row or just that row

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Oh yeah 15 is already in play at the start of the row

[Kyle]

yeah i'm only missing 8H

wait, does 7G mean its across EVERY row, or just one?
every row, the others demonstrate that. columns don't interact

[CrazyLemurs]

Panel 23: 5F

oopsie kyle useless

[Kyle]

argh my bad panel 23: 5F

[scottish]

http://lexet.net/qd47Zq8.png

[Kyle]

fibonacci ahh making me miss doing maths

fibonacci numbers are 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 etc
only row that matches is #1


so since we've used 1, 21, 5 and 8 already
2 3 and 13 are the numbers in the top 3 but we don't know what order

[Circadia]

Top row is Fibonacci numbers

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You guys post to fast for me on my ipad

[scottish]

http://lexet.net/qd47Zq8.png

updated, so

[Kardan]

Panel 23: 5F

oopsie kyle useless

http://i.imgur.com/287BNan.png

[scottish]

http://lexet.net/287BNan.png

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prime numbers are 2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19, 23, 29

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which basically just confirms top row is one (2, 3, 13)

leaving 5,7,11,17,19,23,29

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row 2 currently has 0 primes
row 3 currently has 1 prime (7) leaving 5,11,17,19,23,29
row 4 currently has 0 primes
row 5 currently no1 cares

[Kyle]

3 colums have only 1 prime
5 and 2 have on prime

colum 2 because 2 3 and 13 are all prime the others in that colum have to be non prime so ony more column has only 1 prime

[scottish]

so panel 6, 8, 14, 16, 18 contain 11,17,19

one of them.

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wait no i missed the end 23

[Kyle]

middle already has 2 primes so it's etiher 1 or 4

[scottish]

oh ffs i was doing rows GG ME

[CrazyLemurs]

worked it out:
3 columns have just 1 prime number
2 columns have exactly 3 prime numbers

column 5 has just 1
column2 MUST have just 1, as panel 7 is an even number (not prime), which would leave it two possible spots for a prime
therefore panel 17 is not prime

[scottish]

we already know 17 aint a prime as its 6 12 or 18

[Circadia]

When it mentions diagonals does it mean the ones that go from corner to corner? If so then surely panel 19 is 16 because 40 isn't a square number and the other diagonal is divisible by three

[Kyle]

no alex we know 17 isnt prime awks

[scottish]

yes but only one diagonal, http://lexet.net/287BNan.png

[Kyle]

panel 14 isnt prime

[scottish]

you're doing the wrong diagonal to work that out midnight

[CrazyLemurs]

in column 1, panel 6 and 16 are both prime because that must have 3 and currently has only 1

[scottish]

panel 14 corresponds to number in alphabet doesn't it

[Circadia]

Ohh I read 4o as 40 my bad ignore me I'll just leave you to it

[Kyle]

in column 1, panel 6 and 16 are both prime because that must have 3 and currently has only 1
it has to have 2 or 3

[scottish]

ok so panel 6 and 16 are either 11, 17, 19

[CrazyLemurs]

it must have 3 to fill up the amount of prime numbers there are

under 25, there are 9

1, 1, 1, 3 and 3 fill it up

[Kyle]

panel 14 corresponds to number in alphabet doesn't it
numbers we havent used are
6 11 12 14 17 18 19

[scottish]

ah up to not exactly, so 6 and 16 could be 11 17 or 19

[Kyle]

panel 14 is therefore 18r

[scottish]

so panel 14 could be 11, 12, 14, 17, 18 or 19 which if it's in alphabetic numbered then 11K, 12L, 14N, 17Q, 18R, 19S

[Kyle]

Kardan;

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so panel 14 could be 11, 12, 14, 17, 18 or 19 which if it's in alphabetic numbered then 11K, 12L, 14N, 17Q, 18R, 19S
it can't be prime so it's 18

[scottish]

ah yeah

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http://lexet.net/287BNan.png updated then

[Kardan]

panel 14 is therefore 18r

http://i.imgur.com/DZuUv72.png

[scottish]

panel 19 is 16O

[Kyle]

4th column has to be the one left with only one prime then as they can't all be prime if they're numerical

[scottish]

panel 19 is either 4o or 16o, if it's in numerical order it has to be 16o

[Kyle]

panel 19 is 16O
since 4 is before 6/12 which we know M is which also means panel 7 is 4E

[Kardan]

panel 19 is 16O

http://i.imgur.com/Iemq2C5.png

[CrazyLemurs]

Panel 16: 11L
Panel 17: 12M

[Kardan]

since 4 is before 6/12 which we know M is which also means panel 7 is 4E

http://i.imgur.com/crxGhFZ.png

[scottish]

so panel 18 is 14N

[Kyle]

so our top row is 2 3 13 since there's no 26

[Kardan]

Panel 16: 11L
Panel 17: 12M


http://i.imgur.com/4lXoBbi.png

[CrazyLemurs]

top row numbers are 1, 2, 13, 3, 21

[scottish]

yeah, it's 2 then 3/13 and 3/13

[Kyle]

scott care to update your pic

[scottish]

waiting on kardan to do 1 more update

[Kardan]

so panel 18 is 14N

http://i.imgur.com/Vl1elFq.png

[scottish]

http://lexet.net/Vl1elFq.png

[Kyle]

only letters left are K PQ and ST so K is definitely at the top

[CrazyLemurs]

1A
2
13
3
21Y


C, 17 or 19
4E
17 or 19
6
22X


7G
8H
9I
18R
23W


11L
12M
14N
16O
24V


15B
20D
5F
10J
25U



letters left are KPQST

[Kyle]

since it's alphabetical it bust be panel 2 is K2

[CrazyLemurs]

Panel 2: 2K

[Kardan]

since it's alphabetical it bust be panel 2 is K2

http://i.imgur.com/7BjTb6b.png

[scottish]

stop copying him ;ll

http://lexet.net/Vl1elFq.png

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panel 9 is 6T
panel 8 is 19Q

[Kyle]

we know it can't be 13c as we have 13 and c in two different ones which we can fill in

also that means P and S are the two in the top row and since it has to be alphabetical we have 13P and 3S

[scottish]

panel 6 is 17C

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so it leaves us with 13p/s and 3p/s

[CrazyLemurs]

deleted sorri for misunderstanding

[scottish]

http://lexet.net/Vl1elFq.png

[Kardan]

http://i.imgur.com/AVIT3VC.png

[CrazyLemurs]

Panel 3: 13P
Panel 4: 3S
Panel 8: 19Q
Panel 9: 6T

[Kyle]

panel 3: 13p
panel 4: 3s

[scottish]

so it's still

Panel 3 - 13P/S
Panel 4 - 3P/S

[Kyle]

2 hours flat. good job peeps.

[Kardan]

Panel 3: 13P
Panel 4: 3S
Panel 8: 19Q
Panel 9: 6T

The safe has been cracked! The group wins 18 days of VIP!

This task is now over.

[CrazyLemurs]

WOO GUYS 1 DOWN WITH JUST 2 DAYS LOST
2 tasks to go okkk

[Kyle]

no scott i dited my previous post instead of writing another. it has to be alphabetical

[scottish]

ah so it does

[Inseriousity.]

well done guys lol you were all too far ahead for me so left you to it. now take your logic and go do the apocalypse thing

[buttons]

yep well done,maths is not my strong point. ur good for somethin scott ;)

[scottish]

yep well done,maths is not my strong point. ur good for somethin scott ;)

good for everything m8 ;l

[Kyle]

not in the bedroom from what i hear

[scottish]

heard very wrong