My honest opinion it's bothering me alot... read

[Cody]

Okay guys I joined this fan site in Oct, 2011. I remember this site use to be close to # 1 or was #1, I love this site so much, I hate seeing other fan sites because the people and the group aren't as awesome as this one, I have noticed that Habbox RARELY does events anymore, I mean what happened to the giveaways by the DJs or all the amazing fun events that use to happen like throughout the day, I mean this site won't grow without any promotion. I mean I miss all the old events and giveaways we had. I hope I don't offend any of you, I'm only speaking my opinion. I know theres an event going on right now but we need more events to go on through the day, I'm more than glad to help this site and donate the most I can, but please listen to my opinion. Thanks :)

[OldLoveSong]

simply arent enough enough people applying to be events organisers. Habboxlive staff are allowed to host events aswell but are only official if its a senior+ hosting. I've seen tons more DJ's hosting events and doing more competitions on air ever since HxSS. Would be nice if all departments were allowed to host outside of the Hxss but then events department would lose its purpose basically if every department were allowed to host

[Matt]

The Event situation has been pretty poor for at least 6 months, if not longer. The problem is that people are moving away from Habbo, don't want to fund events themselves and/or can't be bothered hosting for an hour. Hosting does take quite a lot of effort as you do have concentrate and try to make very few mistakes (or you get yelled at) and you can also get certain people in your Events that makes you question why you're even hosting (trolls and people trying to make your life difficult). Fansite events for Habbox have been on the decline for agesss and that's just how things have gone. I'd have thought that some of the Guest EOs would have made a bit more of an effort considering it is HxSS but the amount of Events coming from the department has been pretty minimal, even for HxSS.

You're definitely not the only one with that opinion and it's true that very few Events have been hosted, but that's because of Staff numbers and lack of motivation to actually host on Habbo.

Events Applications are open though, so why not have a go and apply! :P

[Cassiieee]

With it being Summer time, most people are out and about or have summer jobs and simply don't have time for events.

[Cody]

I completely understand that. I just love this site, we need more donators haha so we have furniture to go in a rotation, shout out to the guys who use their furniture for events. I appreciate it. <3

[Gina]

With it being Summer time, most people are out and about or have summer jobs and simply don't have time for events.
but it isnt just summer time lol atm this is more than what we've had in ages

[Jssy]

I've really enjoyed hosting events for hxss so I applied last week for events. I think habbo in general has declined and its really affected fansites

[Drewar]

I agree, there definitely could be a lot of improvement.

I've had a lot of fun hosting during [HxSS], it's actually quite fun. I'd love to be a guest Events Organizer, but I couldn't make the commitment of being a full time one. Not sure who the events manager is ATM, but if they see this message and are interested in letting me be a Guest EO, I'd be interested :)

Cheers!

[Matt]

I agree, there definitely could be a lot of improvement.

I've had a lot of fun hosting during [HxSS], it's actually quite fun. I'd love to be a guest Events Organizer, but I couldn't make the commitment of being a full time one. Not sure who the events manager is ATM, but if they see this message and are interested in letting me be a Guest EO, I'd be interested :)

Cheers!
@:odey: (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=37924); is the EM at the moment but he's posted away. To be a Guest EO I think you need to meet the requirements/criteria. I found the thread in Announcements!


Criteria:

- Be an ex Senior Events Organiser or above.
- Showed dedication to host events by hosting in tournaments (i.e. HxSS), competitions etc.
- Must be able to complete 4 events per month.
- Must be able to fund their own prizes and have their own events room (unless an Events Organiser allows you to use theirs).
- Must adhere to the forum and staff rules whilst in the role and follow how an Event Organiser books, hosts and advertises an event (e.g. booking calendar and community notice board thread).


If you believe you fit the criteria please PM Samanfa and Wispur alongside :odey:

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Not sure if they'd let you unless you met the first one!

[Drewar]

@:odey: (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=37924); is the EM at the moment but he's posted away. To be a Guest EO I think you need to meet the requirements/criteria. I found the thread in Announcements!


Criteria:

- Be an ex Senior Events Organiser or above.
- Showed dedication to host events by hosting in tournaments (i.e. HxSS), competitions etc.
- Must be able to complete 4 events per month.
- Must be able to fund their own prizes and have their own events room (unless an Events Organiser allows you to use theirs).
- Must adhere to the forum and staff rules whilst in the role and follow how an Event Organiser books, hosts and advertises an event (e.g. booking calendar and community notice board thread).


If you believe you fit the criteria please PM Samanfa and Wispur alongside :odey:

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Not sure if they'd let you unless you met the first one!

I don't meet the first one. No worries to me. I was just offering to help since it seemed like the department needed it :)

[Matt]

I don't meet the first one. No worries to me. I was just offering to help since it seemed like the department needed it :)

I guess you could always try and see what happens!

[Sho]

I don't meet the first one. No worries to me. I was just offering to help since it seemed like the department needed it :)

I don't think all the current ones have been Senior+ in the past either :).

[Sian]

Giveaways wouldn't fix anything... Maybe a new events manager, I like tom but it doesn't seem like he has the enthusiasm anymore. But yeh, why don't you apply? It's all very well saying you don't like the lack of stuff, but a lot if people say it and those are the ones who don't tend to apply for positions.

[Hannah]

Giveaways wouldn't fix anything... Maybe a new events manager, I like tom but it doesn't seem like he has the enthusiasm anymore. But yeh, why don't you apply? It's all very well saying you don't like the lack of stuff, but a lot if people say it and those are the ones who don't tend to apply for positions.

This ^

Get on events and show them how it's done!

[Inseriousity.]

It is quite depressing to see actually. Sure, HxSS always gets quieter towards the end but it's dead! Outside of HxSS, it's considered a good day if we manage to get more than 1 event on the timetable. I agree with Sian, I'd go further and say he should've been fired a long time ago (although I did like the HxSS events he hosted, hide and seek was fun).

[scottish]

Isn't HxSS usually the only time the department peaks really, and from what I've been told this year it's absolutely ****.

It used to be back to back events, if there wasn't events booked days in advance covering the full day then people would be sniping the spot up within minutes. Now there's more empty slots than there is events.

[James]

The Event situation has been pretty poor for at least 6 months, if not longer. The problem is that people are moving away from Habbo, don't want to fund events themselves and/or can't be bothered hosting for an hour. Hosting does take quite a lot of effort as you do have concentrate and try to make very few mistakes (or you get yelled at) and you can also get certain people in your Events that makes you question why you're even hosting (trolls and people trying to make your life difficult). Fansite events for Habbox have been on the decline for agesss and that's just how things have gone. I'd have thought that some of the Guest EOs would have made a bit more of an effort considering it is HxSS but the amount of Events coming from the department has been pretty minimal, even for HxSS.

You're definitely not the only one with that opinion and it's true that very few Events have been hosted, but that's because of Staff numbers and lack of motivation to actually host on Habbo.

Events Applications are open though, so why not have a go and apply! :P
100% agree with all of this.

& something else which stops people applying is their forum name. People would rather have the forum name they want, but with it being a community role, under the decree of management, their names have to be the same as Habbo. I know that won't change, but it's another major factor. Loads more people would probably apply if our forum didnt have to be same as habbo

[Bloop]

i dont even see events nowadays apart frm hxss too lul

there is like 5 ppl in events so :(

[Matt]

1 Manager
2 Events Organisers
2 Trialists
8 Guest Events Organisers

Didn't realise that there's only 2 full Events Organisers left. Then IMO the amount of Events is kind of right then, for the amount of actual EO's there are.

[Bloop]

100% agree with all of this.

& something else which stops people applying is their forum name. People would rather have the forum name they want, but with it being a community role, under the decree of management, their names have to be the same as Habbo. I know that won't change, but it's another major factor. Loads more people would probably apply if our forum didnt have to be same as habbois it only for events? drews isnt :P

oh and i think its kinda unfair to blame it all on :odey: i think its just a lack of hosts :/

[Drew]

is it only for events? drews isnt :P

oh and i think its kinda unfair to blame it all on :odey: i think its just a lack of hosts :/
Only staff in community departments need to have their forum name identical to their Habbo name. Having hosted Codebreaker for about 2 weeks, I find that I quite enjoy hosting events. The only thing stopping me from applying to departments like Competitions and Events is the fact that I need to have Wennn. as my forum name :P

[Bloop]

Only staff in community departments need to have their forum name identical to their Habbo name. Having hosted Codebreaker for about 2 weeks, I find that I quite enjoy hosting events. The only thing stopping me from applying to departments like Competitions and Events is the fact that I need to have Wennn. as my forum name :P

wot thats quite stupid :P
but i do think the staff list on habbox shld be their habbo names, not forum names
but the events board thingy on habbox listed down their habbo names right so y do their forum names hv to b changed :S

(ps wennn. eek)

[James]

I think Wennn. is a cute name :(

[lemons]

there isn't a very large habbox community within habbo thats why events SUCK cus no1 turns up and no1 wants to host for a fansite with hardly any players!

also im glad this stupid name change rule has been mentioned

[Lewis]

@:odey: (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=37924); is the EM at the moment but he's posted away. To be a Guest EO I think you need to meet the requirements/criteria. I found the thread in Announcements!


Criteria:

- Be an ex Senior Events Organiser or above.
- Showed dedication to host events by hosting in tournaments (i.e. HxSS), competitions etc.
- Must be able to complete 4 events per month.
- Must be able to fund their own prizes and have their own events room (unless an Events Organiser allows you to use theirs).
- Must adhere to the forum and staff rules whilst in the role and follow how an Event Organiser books, hosts and advertises an event (e.g. booking calendar and community notice board thread).


If you believe you fit the criteria please PM Samanfa and Wispur alongside :odey:

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Not sure if they'd let you unless you met the first one!


That isn't all true, have a read of the paragraph above the first one. It is quite misleading but it says that as long as you have been noted as a hardworking, trusted person or something you can still apply and management will decide--whether you meet all the requirements or not.

Should be made clearer in my opinion :P

[Martin]

Peoples Habbo name is in their postbit anyway so is visible to people so I dont see the problem with allowing people to have different names on the forum really. It seems like it would encourage a lot more people to want to be community staff, which to be honest Habbox is in dire need of..


I'm not going to go too much into events, but I think there's a lot that could be being done that isn't and certain people lack enthusiasm and motivation to want to make the department succeed any more. If management are unapproachable, barely around, posted away large amounts and rarely putting in the effort themselves, then this trend will follow down the ranks unfortunately and the entire department will just become unmotivated and unsuccessful.


I think some of the blame for the decline in activity can be credited to the downfall of Habbo itself, however not all of it. There are certain factors which make up a good community and good leadership, encouragement and setting an example goes a long way. Making staff members work together and enjoy the role and work together as a team to better it is crucial. All of my favourite times at Habbox have been where I've felt like part of a team within a department, where friends are made, people get on well and help each other and it really reflects well and makes things get done so much better.


HxSS started off relatively okay, but as others have said this past week has just been dead really- the spark has well and truly gone and there doesn't seem to be much fuss about it at all really, which is a shame considering this is meant to be Habbox's big event of the year and chance to recruit lots of new members and expand on its community presence on the client.


The fact I've had to be given permissions to add events to the panel because it was taking so long to be updated shows that there just aren't enough people putting in maximum efforts, which goes for events management as well as general management (who should be covering if the events manager is away which I believe he is again). There are currently no senior events organisers, very few events hosts, an inactive manager and right now a department which doesn't look too appealing to become a part of.


Habboxlive on the other hand has excelled itself during HxSS I believe, bridging a huge gap and thankfully saving the competition in some ways. We would be seeing 1 event per day if we were lucky otherwise! :P I've tuned into some really good shows lately, some of the on air competitions have been really good, and its been nice to see other people having a go at hosting events too. The support hasn't always been there which is a shame, as I feel with encouragement there is the potential for some fabulous events hosts there.


I think a serious action plan needs to be put into place, because events is one of the most important departments at Habbox for advertising on the client and gathering a community following, and if Habbox is to improve then everyone really does need to get behind it and want to make it happen. I remember previous HxSS's have been great in terms of getting new members interested in Habbox and them sticking around, and really this needs to be happening all year round.


There are obviously things which are holding people back from applying for events and these need to be looked at urgently really, whether its funding options, making the department and the atmousphere within it actually tempting to become a part of and ensuring the effective management and positions within the department to ensure it runs smoothly, because it's no good piling the pressure on someone to the point where they step down and you end up with no seniors at all! Oh wait...

[Inseriousity.]

an action plan is a good idea ;)

[Cody]

Yep, does sound like a good idea. I'm glad I made this post to be honest, I can tell you all mostly agree with what I'm saying. :P

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[The Don]

We need more events organizers. Maybe than means providing incentives for the guest ones to turn full time, or incentives to encourage new people to join the department. I'm not sure whether the 4 events per month limit is just for the guest events organizers, or if it's for full time ones too, but if it is the same then it definitely needs to be raised and weekly, not monthly. Punishing people for buying credits at a discount is also silly, as it's ridiculously expensive to buy them from the catalogue. Turning a blind eye would perhaps be in everybody's best interest, no point punishing people on hearsay, or for attempting to spend their own money to help Habbox out. Perhaps we could implement incentives.

We need more events organizers, that is the main problem and we need to be coming up with ways to recruit more. The way I see it there are 3 different types of people we need to be aiming at recruiting, and changing the approach for each one is essential for this to work. These different types of people are:
1. People who don’t already work for Habbox
2. People who work for other departments but not Events
3. People who work for Events as Guest Events Organizers
Obviously each of these demographics are going to require different methods.

Group 1
This group is essentially compromised of three groups. Group A consists of anybody already associated with Habbox outside of the client. Basically anybody on the forum or that listens to the radio but doesn’t actually play Habbo. Group B is everybody unassociated with Habbox in client. Group C is a hybrid of the previous two groups, it’s essentially everybody that plays Habbo and is also already aware/associated with Habbox.

Group A
This group is going to be the hardest demographic to recruit because it’s largely dominated by forum members who simply don’t play Habbo anymore. They have no interest in Habbox outside of the forum and generally only use it out of habit. We can approach this in two ways, either through advertising on the forum and the different habbox websites (UNINTRUSIVELY! There’s no better way to alienate people than by sticking massive advertisements in their face), or by attempting to get them involved within the community, the two are loosely related. Perhaps that means hosting themed events e.g. Runescape Quiz night and attempting to get those members involved in client.

Group B
This group is our largest target and consists of practically everybody that plays Habbo that doesn’t already know about/use Habbox. Recruiting this group primarily falls into raising awareness about Habbox, and getting them involved with the community. This means getting in client staff to help. Whether it’s Helpdesk staff informing these random players about our events when they come in to ask for help, or our events hosts promoting habbox to the people already at their events. We need to be getting new people interested in our community, and that involves having a bigger presence inside the client.

Group C
This group should be way easier to recruit than the previous two as these users already have a vested interest in both Habbox and Habbo. With this group raising awareness is ineffective as they are already fully aware. Here we need to be providing incentives for them to volunteer their time to help us. I’ll talk about incentives later.

Group 2
This group consists of everybody already working at Habbox (outside of events, of course) and is split in two groups, Client Staff and Site Staff. The latter usually fall into the Group A category from the previous section and so has already been largely discussed. The only way this differs is that they already work for Habbox. Increasing staff bonding could help. For example, we could host Departments Competitions where the different groups all compete with one another through a variety of in client AND forum based events.

The Client based staff will be easier. They want to work for habbox because they already do, so we need to find out why they don’t want to work for events so that we can change these negative aspects to make the department appeal to more people. I have a limited knowledge of events, but a few suggestions from what I do know would be by perhaps turning a blind eye to people buying credits from places other than the catalogue. I’m sure management reading this will instantly dismiss this, but I’m not suggesting we advertise and actively encourage it. I see this to be comparable with HabboxLive in regards to piracy. It’s not condoned, but as long as it’s not in your face obvious it shouldn’t be a problem as Habbox itself isn’t breaking any rules. This is a key point in my opinion, as one of the largest deterrents for any prospective EO’s is the fact that they have to largely provide their own prizes, which can get expensive.

It will be easier to recruit more Guest EO’s from this group, as opposed to fulltime EO’s, simply because the rules are more lax.

Group 3
The Easiest group, they already host some events but don’t want to do it fulltime due to time constraints or whatever other reasons. Odey, or whoevers in charge needs to be actively working to convert some of these into full time EO’s. It would be helpful to ask them all why they chose to be Guest EO’s rather than fulltime ones so that we can make adequate changes. We need incentives to make people want to work fulltime rather than part time, whether that means funding some of the prizes for the fulltime organizer’s and not for the Guest EO’s or something. I also think 4 events per month is a little small, even for guest organizers. 6 per month, or 1 per week (so at least they are consistent rather than all being hosted on the same day, at the end of the month).

Incentives
Host of the Month
This user will receive either a reimbursement for the events they’ve hosted that month or a consistent lump sum of credits (100?). It could be decided on a point basis so that whoever hosts the most events will win, with the organizers receiving 5 points for every event hosted. This way the organizers have a set objective every month. I don’t think subjectively picking someone is the best way to go about it, which is why I’ve suggested the point system, as this can lead to staff favoritism, and there’s a definitive criteria so that you know and understand how you can win, as opposed to the staff of the month system we already have, which I don’t think anybody outside of management understands how it’s decided.

Reimbursement credit scheme
As well as receiving points for the Host of the Month, they could receive points in a separate system, which doesn’t reset each month. Quarterly (every 3 months) they can cash these in for reimbursements. Say you get 3 points per event, you host 15 events in that quarter, you receive 45 credits back. Leaving the department, not meeting your targets or posting away automatically resets it back to 0 to discourage any of these from happening.

General Criticisms
• Not enough events are being hosted during prime times. There needs to be some sort of system established so that events are happening during PEAK times. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve came online to see that all the events were hosted BEFORE MIDDAY. That’s ridiculous. Fair play for those people actually bothering to host events, and I understand not everyone’s from the UK, but for those that are, we need events during the prime times in the evening.
• Too many Guest Organizers, not enough Full Time ones.
• Firing people for buying credits through alternative means
• Lack of consistency with the events. There should be one daily event, which is on at the same time everyday so that people not familiar with Habbox become familiar with it as they become regulars at it. Perhaps called ‘The Daily Event’ (or something more creative). Habbox, not the organizers, should fund it; to ensure that there is one everyday. It will need to be booked in advance so that there’s always someone available to host it and if not we can get someone such as a manager to host it instead.

There have been some really good events this year, and it started off really well. I don’t want to name certain people for fear of missing somebody out, but some hosts have done extremely well and have been consistently hosting a lot of events. It is a shame that activity plateaued towards the end of HxSS, but that’s partly due to a couple of organizer’s being fired which can’t be helped. Hopefully management will begin to implement changes to encourage new people to join the department, and hopefully some of what I’ve suggested will be helpful. I’m sure there are people inside the department with better ideas, and perhaps asking them what they think will be of value.

[e5]

simply arent enough enough people applying to be events organisers. Habboxlive staff are allowed to host events aswell but are only official if its a senior+ hosting. I've seen tons more DJ's hosting events and doing more competitions on air ever since HxSS. Would be nice if all departments were allowed to host outside of the Hxss but then events department would lose its purpose basically if every department were allowed to host

Why is it on official if it's a senior+ doing it?

It's also HxSS right now so there should be plenty of events!

[OldLoveSong]

Why is it on official if it's a senior+ doing it?

It's also HxSS right now so there should be plenty of events!
idk the events dept and managers approved it i suppose:p hpnd before i was manager
also because seniors/heads are required to host events (client/on air wise)

[sex]

It would also help if some AGM realise habbox is a fan site for teens as didn't have the personality of a potato sack. They treat it like a boring government job all the time

[scottish]

It would also help if some AGM realise habbox is a fan site for teens as didn't have the personality of a potato sack. They treat it like a boring government job all the time

who is it

[sex]

who is it

play a guessing game!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[scottish]

lawrawrrrrr

[sex]

no.

[scottish]

matt ghana

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wait no wispur

[lawrawrrr]

you do have to be a little bit in charge to make sure it's run smoothly and stuff but I'm all for treating it with a bit of fun! what sort of thin are you referring to?

[Drewar]

It would also help if some AGM realise habbox is a fan site for teens as didn't have the personality of a potato sack. They treat it like a boring government job all the time

Although I'm not sure which AGM(s) Graham might be talking about (and I don't care to hear anyone hazarding any guesses), I do agree with parts that I bolded. I'm quite pressed for time ATM (on my way out the door for work), but there are just a few things I want to say quickly (I can elaborate after work, if necessary).

Habbox is definitely more strict now than it has been at any point in Habbox history that I can remember (and I am a Habbox dinosaur who has been here since the beginning). Habbox is definitely treated like a government job. I must say... I personally believe that the staffing rules are absolutely rubbish and nothing more than a way to assert dominance/power and to create busy work for some roles. I'll use the Radio Department as an example, because I am very familiar with the department (and I have been working on and off for the radio department since 2005).

There is currently a caution/warning system in place, and I think it is an absolute waste of time. It wastes the time of the Senior or Head DJs who have to issue them (typing/editing said warnings takes up valuable time which could be used to help promote team bonding, coaching of new DJs, etc) and the DJs who receive them (because they have to read through PMs about topics which can be quite pedantic).

Further, there are so many rules in place that it can almost completely take the fun out of the job. When I first joined HabboxRadio (before it was HabboxLive), everyone on the team was very close with each other. We probably only had around 20 DJs, but the radio was absolutely booming, and the radio was scarcely offline. People used to DJ because they genuinely wanted to, not because they were worrying about meeting their minimums to avoid warnings. There was no such thing as warnings when I first started. Everyone pulled their own weight because they wanted to because it was fun and they enjoyed the close knit group of DJs, not because they were scared of punishment. If there was a DJ who was inactive, the radio management would deal with them on a case by case basis, and contact them individually if they had issues about them. If they were unable to resolve the inactivity issues (i.e. there wasn't a reasonable explanation as to why the DJ had been inactive recently, and they had no intent of improving upon their inactivity), the DJ would be booted from the department. Simple.

The warning system doesn't deal with those who are inactive efficiently. When I first took over as a Head DJ a few months ago, there was a DJ on my team that hadn't logged in to the forum or Habbo for over 3 weeks. I immediately picked up on this, and issued them a warning for failing to meet minimums at the end of my first week. Then the next week. Then the week after that. Then I had to PM management several times to get the DJ removed from the department (even after they had accumulated the 3/3 warnings, which is supposed to lead to an automatic dismissal). So this DJ was inactive for six weeks (3 before I became head, 3 after) before they were removed, because the warning system is not all its cracked up to be.

I think the way that all departments are run needs a major overhaul, and yes, more slack. Departments should be run on a more personal level (dealt with on a case by case basis, rather than with cookie cutter strict rules / warning systems). Managers were able to do it back in 2004-2006 when Habbox was 10x as active as it is now, so they should be able to now that the site has shrunk to a much smaller size.

Again, I'm willing to talk a lot more about these issues, but I have 25 minutes to get to work, so I'll elaborate later :)

[lemons]

I hope new community agm is someone youthful vibrant and full of creativity and someone who actually plays habbo :)

[Inseriousity.]

Although I'm not sure which AGM(s) Graham might be talking about (and I don't care to hear anyone hazarding any guesses), I do agree with parts that I bolded. I'm quite pressed for time ATM (on my way out the door for work), but there are just a few things I want to say quickly (I can elaborate after work, if necessary).

Habbox is definitely more strict now than it has been at any point in Habbox history that I can remember (and I am a Habbox dinosaur who has been here since the beginning). Habbox is definitely treated like a government job. I must say... I personally believe that the staffing rules are absolutely rubbish and nothing more than a way to assert dominance/power and to create busy work for some roles. I'll use the Radio Department as an example, because I am very familiar with the department (and I have been working on and off for the radio department since 2005).

There is currently a caution/warning system in place, and I think it is an absolute waste of time. It wastes the time of the Senior or Head DJs who have to issue them (typing/editing said warnings takes up valuable time which could be used to help promote team bonding, coaching of new DJs, etc) and the DJs who receive them (because they have to read through PMs about topics which can be quite pedantic).

Further, there are so many rules in place that it can almost completely take the fun out of the job. When I first joined HabboxRadio (before it was HabboxLive), everyone on the team was very close with each other. We probably only had around 20 DJs, but the radio was absolutely booming, and the radio was scarcely offline. People used to DJ because they genuinely wanted to, not because they were worrying about meeting their minimums to avoid warnings. There was no such thing as warnings when I first started. Everyone pulled their own weight because they wanted to because it was fun and they enjoyed the close knit group of DJs, not because they were scared of punishment. If there was a DJ who was inactive, the radio management would deal with them on a case by case basis, and contact them individually if they had issues about them. If they were unable to resolve the inactivity issues (i.e. there wasn't a reasonable explanation as to why the DJ had been inactive recently, and they had no intent of improving upon their inactivity), the DJ would be booted from the department. Simple.

The warning system doesn't deal with those who are inactive efficiently. When I first took over as a Head DJ a few months ago, there was a DJ on my team that hadn't logged in to the forum or Habbo for over 3 weeks. I immediately picked up on this, and issued them a warning for failing to meet minimums at the end of my first week. Then the next week. Then the week after that. Then I had to PM management several times to get the DJ removed from the department (even after they had accumulated the 3/3 warnings, which is supposed to lead to an automatic dismissal). So this DJ was inactive for six weeks (3 before I became head, 3 after) before they were removed, because the warning system is not all its cracked up to be.

I think the way that all departments are run needs a major overhaul, and yes, more slack. Departments should be run on a more personal level (dealt with on a case by case basis, rather than with cookie cutter strict rules / warning systems). Managers were able to do it back in 2004-2006 when Habbox was 10x as active as it is now, so they should be able to now that the site has shrunk to a much smaller size.

Again, I'm willing to talk a lot more about these issues, but I have 25 minutes to get to work, so I'll elaborate later :)

I know this goes against everything you were just saying and I hate to be that guy but technically there's a rule in place that says you're not allowed 3 weeks inactivity without permission so it's more a case of systems in place not being really followed by management. :P

Generally speaking though I agree that things can be more relaxed. I didn't bother with warnings when I was comps manager but it was a small department so it's easier to keep things all close-knit. Then again, on the other hand, I've also seen it go the other way, when there wasn't any warnings given then staff become complacent and lazy but the latter was usually caused by a manager not being up to the job or addressing issues.

[Kyle]

stop accepting every man and his dog into guest event host role because none of them do anything

[Drewar]

I know this goes against everything you were just saying and I hate to be that guy but technically there's a rule in place that says you're not allowed 3 weeks inactivity without permission so it's more a case of systems in place not being really followed by management. :P

Generally speaking though I agree that things can be more relaxed. I didn't bother with warnings when I was comps manager but it was a small department so it's easier to keep things all close-knit. Then again, on the other hand, I've also seen it go the other way, when there wasn't any warnings given then staff become complacent and lazy but the latter was usually caused by a manager not being up to the job or addressing issues.

I was aware of that three week rule, and I brought it up to (radio) management at the time, but they didn't enforce it, they told me to just keep issuing that member warnings and wait for that person to accumulate 3 warnings.

If the staff become complacent or aren't doing their job, I think it's easy for management to have a one on one, personalized, "case by case" conversation with them, rather than sending them a bunch of cookie cutter warnings. If they aren't doing their job, and you talk to them about it and they still don't do their job, just give them the boot. That'll help nip complacency in the bud.

[Martin]

stop accepting every man and his dog into guest event host role because none of them do anything


Isn't there a fixed amount of events that guest events organisers have to host before they're warned/fired though? Although at the moment considering the department has no seniors and no management due to odey being posted away again, I expect people are getting away with more than they should at the moment. :P

[Chris]

It would also help if some AGM realise habbox is a fan site for teens as didn't have the personality of a potato sack. They treat it like a boring government job all the time

Presuming you are actually referring to me here, how exactly has anything been treated like a boring government job and what on earth does that have to do with what the OP said?

Anyway in response to the OP, we are now in the process of reviving the events department. Shonly is overseeing it for the time being and applications for events management are currently open. I'm happy to say that we've had some promising applications so far!

[Jssy]

I hope I can help now, alongside other events staff woowoo

[Sho]

I'm hoping to bring in a good handful of trialists over the next few days which will (hopefully) mean more events being hosted. I've PMed a handful of applicants today to offer them a trial and I've also got another handful of applicants to PM tomorrow. It's a good start and our new trialists seem to be really keen to host too :).

[Rachel]

Maybe Habbox is not as busy as it use to be but heck it is still doing pretty good to me :)

[dude1-44]

True that. im sure it will have its time pass and get its user and listeners back up :) :P

[Cody]

True that. im sure it will have its time pass and get its user and listeners back up :) :P
That sounds good to me. :]

[sex]

Presuming you are actually referring to me here, how exactly has anything been treated like a boring government job and what on earth does that have to do with what the OP said?

Anyway in response to the OP, we are now in the process of reviving the events department. Shonly is overseeing it for the time being and applications for events management are currently open. I'm happy to say that we've had some promising applications so far!

no one wants to host because the majority of staff do not like you and find you rude/think you have a superior complex. if you attended more than 4 events during the entire 2 weeks of hxss you would have seen what they have to say about you.
having a manager who you dont like and treats a teen fansite like a government job makes people not want to get involved or host!

i say if you seen a pile of paper work you would get excited irl

[Chris]

no one wants to host because the majority of staff do not like you and find you rude/think you have a superior complex. if you attended more than 4 events during the entire 2 weeks of hxss you would have seen what they have to say about you.
having a manager who you dont like and treats a teen fansite like a government job makes people not want to get involved or host!

i say if you seen a pile of paper work you would get excited irl

So it's my fault that people decided not to host events? I don't know how you figured that one out.

[FlyingJesus]

I wouldn't say it's all your fault but you are kinda in charge of staff or does the AGM Staff role not actually include communicating with staff and making sure they're doing their jobs any more

[Chris]

I wouldn't say it's all your fault but you are kinda in charge of staff or does the AGM Staff role not actually include communicating with staff and making sure they're doing their jobs any more

How can I be blamed for staff not hosting events? Staff were encouraged to host events throughout hxss, but they can't be forced into it unless they're event organisers who aren't reaching their minimums.

[lawrawrrr]

It's mostly down to managers to ensure staff are meeting minimums. Obviously if managers aren't keeping up with it we do step in, even if they do we usually check around to make sure there's no flagrant rule breaks but most people have met minimums. Over HxSS we've all been encouraging staff members to host events, but we can't force them to, only encourage, which I think we've tried our hardest to do!

[Jurv]

the events department will never be how it used to be :(

[-:Undertaker:-]

I saw the criticism at General Management that the current GM team treats this like a boring government job, yet i've seen the opposite. I've been in and out of Management since 2006, as well as staff roles, and there's not been a more friendly/relaxed General Management like this ever before. I years gone by, whenever I would contact/be contacted by General Management i'd be contacted as though it was via a government department... nowadays it's the total opposite with Matt, Laura, Chris and Sam. Much better.

I certainly wouldn't like to return to the regime days of ---MAD--- or even of other GMs.

[nvrspk4]

I wouldn't say it's all your fault but you are kinda in charge of staff or does the AGM Staff role not actually include communicating with staff and making sure they're doing their jobs any more

Tbf that's not usually what the AGM Staff does, no :P AGM Staff usually oversees bad behavior / hiring / firing / permissions. Non-performing EOs would fall under the domain of the Events Manager followed by the AGM Community if I'm not mistaken.

Regardless of anyone's feelings on Wispur I think it's pretty hard to tie his attitude to events, and it looks like some posts are moving more into hurling insults than providing constructive feedback (I really want the :eusa_whistle smiley back here)

[FlyingJesus]

Oh don't worry the events manager and community AGM got it a lot worse for their complete non-effort :P both quite rightly being replaced

[Lewis]

I think they should choose two events managers / an assistant. Although one should be enough for the events department, while it's in its current state, two minds will be better than one. Although I guess that really depends on who they choose!

(as long as they're both obviously right for the job with a good application)

[-Nick]

I think they should choose two events managers / an assistant. Although one should be enough for the events department, while it's in its current state, two minds will be better than one. Although I guess that really depends on who they choose!

(as long as they're both obviously right for the job with a good application)
Thats the same for all departments you know?

[A4R0N]

BRING BACK FATJEW !!!

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woops i mean mathew

[FlyingJesus]

I think they should choose two events managers / an assistant.

That would mean everyone in the department is a manager lolololol

[Lewis]

Thats the same for all departments you know?

yeah but the events department hasnt had an assistant or joint in quite a while now, almost a year? I know staff numbers are small and probably only require one, but still. Depends!

and lmao @FlyingJesus (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=24753); - there are quite a few new trialists and more coming i think, hopefully that's good news for the events department!

[Inseriousity.]

I think they should choose two events managers / an assistant. Although one should be enough for the events department, while it's in its current state, two minds will be better than one. Although I guess that really depends on who they choose!

(as long as they're both obviously right for the job with a good application)

All the department needs is a strong manager who's going to actually be around and an AGM who'll pay attention to it. He should've been fired (at the latest) after the world cup tourny fiasco but better late than never :P

[Lewis]

All the department needs is a strong manager who's going to actually be around and an AGM who'll pay attention to it. He should've been fired (at the latest) after the world cup tourny fiasco but better late than never :P

Yeah, that's true. But I know there's some people on here with a lot of potential for the department that'd just feel more comfortable with someone to help a little, whether they truly need it or not. This isn't true for everyone and the department could get back together with one, it just depends on who's managing it in my opinion. If someone feels as if they need an assistant for whatever reason, it certainly doesn't mean they aren't good enough for the department.

That's basically what I meant :P

[Inseriousity.]

Well I know that general management will give an assistant to practically everyone that asks for one so that isn't really a problem.

[lawrawrrr]

I get what you mean about two heads better than one but when someone new comes into a department they often want to put their stamp on it, especially in a department that's plateaued in a very low place for quite a while. That's why I think only hiring one for now is the best thing to do, unless that person WANTS someone to help out and bounce ideas off, although all AGMs can function as that person, especially Sho.

All people that apply for manager are usually offered trials or a position within the department anyway, and if they really care about the department, rather than just the power, they'll usually be likely to take it and work their way up. We're down a manager AND any seniors right now, when for years there's either been 2 managers and a senior or 1 manager and 2 seniors so there's definitely scope for quick promotion.

[scottish]

events have gone downhill since mathew left.

[-Nick]

yeah but the events department hasnt had an assistant or joint in quite a while now, almost a year? I know staff numbers are small and probably only require one, but still. Depends!

and lmao @FlyingJesus (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=24753); - there are quite a few new trialists and more coming i think, hopefully that's good news for the events department!
You do know departments like Content and Articles havnt had assitants in a while?

[Lewis]

You do know departments like Content and Articles havnt had assitants in a while?

what has this got to do with anything i said other than the fact you're saying other departments have assistants in a previous comment and now this lol...

yes I am very aware? lmao :P

this is basically what I'm basically saying Nick:

Yeah, that's true. But I know there's some people on here with a lot of potential for the department that'd just feel more comfortable with someone to help a little, whether they truly need it or not. This isn't true for everyone and the department could get back together with one, it just depends on who's managing it in my opinion. If someone feels as if they need an assistant for whatever reason, it certainly doesn't mean they aren't good enough for the department.

And as said, it just depends on the person! Some might be better alone, others might be better knowing there's someone else to help out a little! (as lawrawrrr said :P)

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P.S

hurry up and apply @cameron; Jurv;