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scottish
16-11-2014, 03:08 PM
Can you get your moderators (well I've only ever encountered 1 with the issue) to actually comment on post reports.
Several times I've had a moderator comment "N/A" and do nothing, this gives absolutely no reason as to why they feel the report is wrong, or why they feel they should do nothing regarding the situation.
What's the point in a comment section, if you're not going to comment?
It's even less useful when they mark it as N/A then ignore any further communication (pm/vm) questioning their response.
Calum0812
16-11-2014, 03:12 PM
Members report the post.
Moderators decide what action to take on the post, they don't need to feedback to the reporting user about what action has been taken, at least I haven't been told otherwise anyway.
Lewis
16-11-2014, 03:14 PM
Members report the post.
Moderators decide what action to take on the post, they don't need to feedback to the reporting user about what action has been taken, at least I haven't been told otherwise anyway.
Even moderators get things wrong. It'd make sense to leave a note as to why you're not doing anything about the said issue.
Calum0812
16-11-2014, 03:14 PM
Even moderators get things wrong. It'd make sense to leave a note as to why you're not doing anything about the said issue.
Sure, but if we do then you should get in touch with one of the managers and then it will feed down and be corrected
Hannah
16-11-2014, 03:19 PM
Sure, but if we do then you should get in touch with one of the managers and then it will feed down and be corrected
Or it could be made into a post in the feedback forum and the correct action be taken.
It just seems plain lazy to leave no comment as to why action was or was not taken and it shouldn't be the member's place to have to keep messaging management to find out answers when moderators could have left a comment in the first place. :rolleyes:
scottish
16-11-2014, 03:21 PM
Well it seems every other member of the department (well smods) understand what the 'comment' section means, and actually comment on reports.
For example (I assume it's fine to post these as it's not stating who's been reported etc and i'll remove the mods name), some situations where the mod felt my report was invalid:
- Its not entirely pointless. He states that he wanted to show his desktop but he couldn't screen shot it.
- Although it looks so stupid its context is relevant
- Chris was sorting this, not sure what actually happened but anyway
- It is allowed to ask for one, but not post links or keys on the forum, thanks!
- Still is a fairly good guide, ill leave it up
- I disagree and don't think this inappropriate
- If I moved this to forum games or closed it there would be hell up over it all. Most likely from Kardan. I also feel that the thread is okay where it is anyway.
etc, there's plenty more.
I understand why they don't do it, it'd probably discourage them from doing anything because they know they have to fill out feedback every single time they do an action which would be a pain for anybody...
it'd be nice don't get me wrong but I understand why
Calum0812
16-11-2014, 03:22 PM
It just seems plain lazy to leave no comment as to why action was or was not taken and it shouldn't be the member's place to have to keep messaging management to find out answers when moderators could have left a comment in the first place. :rolleyes:
But it isn't your right to know what action was or wasn't taken and why? Otherwise, everyone would just be allowed to see eachothers usernotes. The post report system is simply to alert the moderation team of a rule break and then let them deal with it. If you have a problem with the way a moderator has dealt with an issue (or hasn't) then you should report that issue to the manager(s).
If a DJ cursed on air and you reported it, would you expect to hear about how they got dealt with? That's just one example but in general you wouldn't.
Well it seems every other member of the department (well smods) understand what the 'comment' section means, and actually comment on reports.
For example (I assume it's fine to post these as it's not stating who's been reported etc and i'll remove the mods name), some situations where the mod felt my report was invalid:
- Its not entirely pointless. He states that he wanted to show his desktop but he couldn't screen shot it.
- Although it looks so stupid its context is relevant
- Chris was sorting this, not sure what actually happened but anyway
- It is allowed to ask for one, but not post links or keys on the forum, thanks!
- Still is a fairly good guide, ill leave it up
- I disagree and don't think this inappropriate
- If I moved this to forum games or closed it there would be hell up over it all. Most likely from Kardan. I also feel that the thread is okay where it is anyway.
etc, there's plenty more.
I never get to see those, so I wouldn't know. With that, our handbook doesn't have any detailed best practice method so we adopt our own ways of replying to things.
scottish
16-11-2014, 03:23 PM
I understand why they don't do it, it'd probably discourage them from doing anything because they know they have to fill out feedback every single time they do an action which would be a pain for anybody...
it'd be nice don't get me wrong but I understand why
It's just lazyness really, there's no reason not to
I'd imagine like 90% of reports will be valid so the typicaly "Thanks ~ Mod" or "Sorted ~ Mod" will suffice, but when you feel it's wrong all you need to do is "I feel as though this is a more suitable location ~ Mod", "I don't feel like its gone far enough to break the rules ~ Mod" or even clarify the rules if they reported wrong.
It's not hard to take 10 seconds to give a comment instead of just putting N/A if you're gonna do nothing.
And any PM regarding N/A should definitely be responses to, as there's no excuse really.
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But it isn't your right to know what action was or wasn't taken and why? Otherwise, everyone would just be allowed to see eachothers usernotes. The post report system is simply to alert the moderation team of a rule break and then let them deal with it. If you have a problem with the way a moderator has dealt with an issue (or hasn't) then you should report that issue to the manager(s).
If a DJ cursed on air and you reported it, would you expect to hear about how they got dealt with? That's just one example but in general you wouldn't.
I'm not asking to know the action, as I said if the report is fine a Thanks/Sorted will suffice.
If you're not going to do anything then a N/A will not suffice, as we're left in the dark as to why you've done nothing.
MKR&*42
16-11-2014, 03:29 PM
I've never had an N/A comment put onto the post reports section? :P Is it a certain mod or all of them doing it.
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P.s. the "members dont need to know an outcome" is an awful approach to take lol
scottish
16-11-2014, 03:30 PM
I've never had an N/A comment put onto the post reports section? :P Is it a certain mod or all of them doing it.
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P.s. the "members dont need to know an outcome" is an awful approach to take lol
One specific smod, who has viewed this thread :P
One of the last times said mod replied with a N/A I PM'd them questioning why they didn't do anything, and they simply ignored it.
So it's nothing but lazyness.
MKR&*42
16-11-2014, 03:33 PM
Oh i see, that certain smod has never dealt with any of my reports so that might explain it :P
i thought a while back it was said that smods would leave comments on posts that weren't dealt with but maybe I'm mistaking it idk
scottish
16-11-2014, 03:40 PM
i thought a while back it was said that smods would leave comments on posts that weren't dealt with but maybe I'm mistaking it idk
Would hope so.
David
16-11-2014, 03:45 PM
i thought a while back it was said that smods would leave comments on posts that weren't dealt with but maybe I'm mistaking it idk
i seem to remember this being said too
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- If I moved this to forum games or closed it there would be hell up over it all. Most likely from Kardan. I also feel that the thread is okay where it is anyway.
haha Kardan;
Kardan
16-11-2014, 03:55 PM
Woo, I'm having an influence.
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Also, I've just had a look at all my post reports, and I've only ever had 'N/A' from Calum. Every time e5 or Nick disagreed with me, they put reasons why, which is a much better method in my opinion.
Martin
16-11-2014, 04:00 PM
I'm sure this was all sorted a while back and Super mods were asked to leave comments as to why something wasn't breaking a rule? (Mainly so the reporter could understand and not report the same thing again etc.)
I'm sure I had to back when I was a super mod the last time?
Maybe some of them just aren't aware or it's not been made clear to them or something? It seems to have been lost in translation somewhere anyway. :P
Hey! Sorry for the late reply, my internet was gone the whole weekend.
It was never really a problem before and I don't think it's something I'm going to enforce but I'll post a thread in the SMOD's forum asking them to do this if they see fit. Sometimes it might just not be necessary to post a comment a N/A is just fine.
I'm disappointed to find that you went out of your way to find out why a report was tagged "N/A" and your PM was ignored. If this ever happens in the future or you'd like to investigate something further, feel free to send me a PM
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