General Management Takeover!

[Samantha]

Since it's now over I felt a feedback thread would be the best way to get member's opinions on it if they were there.

Unfortunately, my feedback won't be 100% positive and I think some improvements could be made next time if you do another one. Firstly, it seemed rather unplanned? I know it's a takeover, but I thought that you could have some ideas you wanted to discuss with the members, get their view on it and see the way forward - I think this is a must for next time, you really need to have the members get behind you. I know you can't reveal too much, but you don't really have to, questions could be as vague as what features would you like to come to Habbox, and be as specific as do you think this VIP is as attractive as this one etc. (the last one is poor so I don't expect that one).

The quiz wasn't too bad, quick and to the point, but it did seem like it was something to fill in the gap where no one was asking questions :P. I think members got an insight into a lot of things as least which we/they wanted! However, it was at the end what I really noticed, and I won't end on a bad note as I do have some positive things to say, but Chris? You said you were doing nothing to gain and keep new members really? As a General Manager that should be one of your main priorities, as if Habbox isn't gaining or maintaining new members then you don't have a job/volunteer job.

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Overall, it was good to see you acting on feedback, actually allowing us to see what you're doing and what could be happening in the future. You got through a lot of questions although the room got raided. Hopefully though you'll take some of the feedback on board for future reference - I'd like to see another one though.

I remember there used to be a meeting for staff every quarter, perhaps this could be done for the General Management takeover or every couple of months? All the AGMs got stuck in tonight and were ready to answer whatever and they did, that's a start at getting to know more :D.

[MKR&*42]

I kinda liked the fact there wasn't a theme to the questions and we could just whatever we want without being restricted to certain topics, was more interesting. Although I did notice a few times where people's questions were missed, but it was a busy room in all fairness :P

[Samantha]

I kinda liked the fact there wasn't a theme to the questions and we could just whatever we want without being restricted to certain topics, was more interesting. Although I did notice a few times where people's questions were missed, but it was a busy room in all fairness :P

Oh yeah, I like that too! I wouldn't want it restricting - I mean if there's a break where no ones really asking anything they could suggest something/ask a question themselves. If that makes sense?

[Sho]

I feel like I missed a couple of questions there. The text was going up so fast for me and it was hard to keep up at times. If I did actually miss your question, drop me a vm and I'll answer it there :D

Some interesting ideas were brought up, some already in discussion now. The takeover will be a recurring thing, although I am not sure how often yet. Every month or two would be good.

[lawrawrrr]

Yeh, same as Sho! If you have any more you can post them in here or something, I just noticed I managed to ignore UndeadDevilHD; from those screenies!

[ItsMeerken]

Yeh, same as Sho! If you have any more you can post them in here or something, I just noticed I managed to ignore UndeadDevilHD; from those screenies!

I was donating some furni and credits to habbox, nobody replied apart from xxMATTGxx donated 1 hc exep lamp and 6c

It doesnt matter now lmao xD

[Empired]

I like the idea of the General Management Takeover and think it could be an extremely beneficial part of Habbox. Admittedly this one wasn't organised as well as it could have been but that's understandable as it's the first one.

I completely agree with Sam's point about General Management asking US some questions; this is General Management takeover, not a Habbox Community one! I believe the original idea behind the takeover was so that GMs could get some feedback on upcoming ideas as well as hear what the community would like to see done in general. More feedback on upcoming ideas next time please!

I arrived late so this may have been discussed before I got there, but was the topic of Christmas discussed? I was surprised there wasn't more discussion on what the community would like to see in the way of Christmas events. Recurring events can run dry and I would have thought you would want to hear some fresh ideas. Perhaps not though.

I was also shocked to see that @Wispur (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=55895); did not have any plans for attracting and retaining new members. I'd like to see a plan put forwards for how we can attract new members. Even if it's as simple as popping into some other rooms on the client from time to time and luring people in through competitions, telling them about upcoming big events, etc. However that seems impossible as at least two of the three General Managers hardly come on the client at all. I think this is an extremely important part of your job and any excuses such as the classic "I don't have time" are pretty poor. Perhaps Laura can be slightly excused for not coming on as much as she is completely content-based and I do see Sho round a fair bit which is nice, but I'd like to see Chris start coming online more please. No excuses! ;)

Finally, can we have a summary of all the things that were discussed in the takeover posted after each one? Some people may not have been able to attend for some reason but would still like to see the results.

[MKR&*42]

Christmas was discussed briefly yes charlie :)

[Empired]

Christmas was discussed briefly yes charlie :)
What kinda things were said? Were different events discussed?

[MKR&*42]

What kinda things were said? Were different events discussed?

That it's going to be called '12 days of christmas' this year instead of bonanza and i forgot everything else LMFAO

[lawrawrrr]

I come on almost every day to do various bits and chat to people on there, go in the hxhd and stuff but it's always really quiet whenever I'm on! Because my job involves a lot of looking around and working on other programs I always end up AFKing too but if someone wants me for something I always come on, or if they invite me to an event or there's a good one on!

[Empired]

Anyone more reliable catch me up on the Christmas bit?

;l

[Inseriousity.]

I like the idea of a summary of it (I wasn't there due to watching hunger games, OMG SO GOOD).
My idea of an action plan was because I didn't think there was much being done to attract new members to Habbox but I think the takeover is at least a good way to get a more active Habbo presence from general management and it looks like good questions were asked so good job :)

How frequent are these? once a month?

[lawrawrrr]

Anyone more reliable catch me up on the Christmas bit?

;l

Sho said that the event is 12 days of Christmas, but I don't know how much else she'll want to say right now, so I'll leave it to her, but it's different from the normal sort of bonanza we do.


I like the idea of a summary of it (I wasn't there due to watching hunger games, OMG SO GOOD).
My idea of an action plan was because I didn't think there was much being done to attract new members to Habbox but I think the takeover is at least a good way to get a more active Habbo presence from general management and it looks like good questions were asked so good job :)

How frequent are these? once a month?
This was mentioned (a summary) and I'm hoping someone from Articles (or a guest writer!) would be interested in doing it for next month. There will be commetns from us in the Box's managers briefing though!

It was a really cool thing to do, top on recommended rooms too so that's fab

[Sho]

Christmas was discussed. It'll be called the 12 days of Christmas rather than the Bonanza this year and each department will run 24 hour events for a day throughout the event, so 1 dept has 1 day. There are a couple of things that still need to be pieced together, like prizes, points and so on. That's a general idea though, you'll have to wait for it to start to find out the actual events.

I agree that the recurring tournis can be a big blah, but I can promise you that the Valentine's one will be a different one that I hope you all have fun with ~

[Empired]

Christmas was discussed. It'll be called the 12 days of Christmas rather than the Bonanza this year and each department will run 24 hour events for a day throughout the event, so 1 dept has 1 day. There are a couple of things that still need to be pieced together, like prizes, points and so on. That's a general idea though, you'll have to wait for it to start to find out the actual events.

I agree that the recurring tournis can be a big blah, but I can promise you that the Valentine's one will be a different one that I hope you all have fun with ~
I'll be interested to see how this turns out. Surely some departments are too small to be hosting events for 24 hours straight? I'd like to see the General Management team (meaning all three of you) host some events during this period if possible too.

[Gina]

oh was this today
i missed it
my feedback is shouldve given a red banner at top so i knew it was happening omg

[Sho]

I'll be interested to see how this turns out. Surely some departments are too small to be hosting events for 24 hours straight? I'd like to see the General Management team (meaning all three of you) host some events during this period if possible too.

Yes, general management have some things in the works for it too, although not fully planned out yet. :)

[lawrawrrr]

I'll be interested to see how this turns out. Surely some departments are too small to be hosting events for 24 hours straight? I'd like to see the General Management team (meaning all three of you) host some events during this period if possible too.
Not necessarily event events - but rather running their departments' christmas competition for one day only. Within the 12 days, I think we all have a day each as well - as much as I'd like to host Habbox events and DJ every so often I won't have the time in December as I'll be working overtime most days, but I'll be on as much as I can, and can sort things out on the forum during the day.

[Kyle]

did nobody take minutes?

don't know why people are acting surprised that chris has no plans. i don't recall any events he organised alone when he was forum manager or anything he did aside from his administrative job when he was agm of staff. he has been vocal about not being prepared to engage with the community in the past and i guess this proves it. well done laura and shonly for organising it.

[Chris]

Unfortunately, my feedback won't be 100% positive and I think some improvements could be made next time if you do another one. Firstly, it seemed rather unplanned? I know it's a takeover, but I thought that you could have some ideas you wanted to discuss with the members, get their view on it and see the way forward - I think this is a must for next time, you really need to have the members get behind you. I know you can't reveal too much, but you don't really have to, questions could be as vague as what features would you like to come to Habbox, and be as specific as do you think this VIP is as attractive as this one etc. (the last one is poor so I don't expect that one).

It wasn't meant to follow any sort of agenda. The idea was to take ANY questions from the community and move from there in an attempt to be more open about things. Some questions did develop into discussions and some didn't.


The quiz wasn't too bad, quick and to the point, but it did seem like it was something to fill in the gap where no one was asking questions :P.

Well the options were either to run a quiz and give people chance to think of more questions or to end the event there and then. This seems like a daft thing to criticise.


I think members got an insight into a lot of things as least which we/they wanted! However, it was at the end what I really noticed, and I won't end on a bad note as I do have some positive things to say, but Chris? You said you were doing nothing to gain and keep new members really? As a General Manager that should be one of your main priorities, as if Habbox isn't gaining or maintaining new members then you don't have a job/volunteer job.

Yes that is correct. I'm not currently doing anything to gain new members myself, but at this time of year can you really blame me? I'm putting the majority of my time into organising things for the Christmas events, whilst also doing other bits and bobs that crop up in the mean time. I have no spare time right now to be coming up with new schemes to bring in new members.


Overall, it was good to see you acting on feedback, actually allowing us to see what you're doing and what could be happening in the future. You got through a lot of questions although the room got raided. Hopefully though you'll take some of the feedback on board for future reference - I'd like to see another one though.

I remember there used to be a meeting for staff every quarter, perhaps this could be done for the General Management takeover or every couple of months? All the AGMs got stuck in tonight and were ready to answer whatever and they did, that's a start at getting to know more :D.

I'm glad you do have something positive to say. The two new initiatives that we chose to do stem from previous feedback, so I don't think anyone is in the position to say that we don't listen or do nothing. We were very quick to act on the feedback we got before and this is something we hope to continue.



I completely agree with Sam's point about General Management asking US some questions; this is General Management takeover, not a Habbox Community one! I believe the original idea behind the takeover was so that GMs could get some feedback on upcoming ideas as well as hear what the community would like to see done in general. More feedback on upcoming ideas next time please!

See my response to Sam.


I arrived late so this may have been discussed before I got there, but was the topic of Christmas discussed? I was surprised there wasn't more discussion on what the community would like to see in the way of Christmas events. Recurring events can run dry and I would have thought you would want to hear some fresh ideas. Perhaps not though.

It was discussed a little.


I was also shocked to see that @Wispur (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=55895); did not have any plans for attracting and retaining new members. I'd like to see a plan put forwards for how we can attract new members. Even if it's as simple as popping into some other rooms on the client from time to time and luring people in through competitions, telling them about upcoming big events, etc.

I don't have any plans in mind at this moment in time. That doesn't mean to say that I'm not going to come up with something in the future though.


However that seems impossible as at least two of the three General Managers hardly come on the client at all. I think this is an extremely important part of your job and any excuses such as the classic "I don't have time" are pretty poor. Perhaps Laura can be slightly excused for not coming on as much as she is completely content-based and I do see Sho round a fair bit which is nice, but I'd like to see Chris start coming online more please. No excuses! ;)

I would love to be on client more, but the truth of it is that I really do not have the spare time to spend on client. I don't care if you think it's a classic excuse because you do not understand the pressure that comes with the role. I spend so much time doing tasks that people are requesting, doing permissions and events planning that I couldn't possibly fit anything else in if I tried. This is of course on top of the work I have to do for university and the social life that I try to maintain.

If anyone thinks I should be doing more then they need to get a reality check. I will never put Habbox before my life and I am doing my absolute best to bring fun events to people for Christmas and other upcoming events. And if anyone dares comes out with the line "If you don't have time then resign" then I won't be held responsible for my actions.


Finally, can we have a summary of all the things that were discussed in the takeover posted after each one? Some people may not have been able to attend for some reason but would still like to see the results.

There isn't one this time but we can try and get one for future events.


I like the idea of a summary of it (I wasn't there due to watching hunger games, OMG SO GOOD).
My idea of an action plan was because I didn't think there was much being done to attract new members to Habbox but I think the takeover is at least a good way to get a more active Habbo presence from general management and it looks like good questions were asked so good job :)

How frequent are these? once a month?

Hopefully once a month. No promises though :P


I'll be interested to see how this turns out. Surely some departments are too small to be hosting events for 24 hours straight? I'd like to see the General Management team (meaning all three of you) host some events during this period if possible too.

I assume you mean on client? If I get chance I'll try, but I will be running off client events.

[Inseriousity.]

I think that's the problems with takeovers, they happen once, twice if youre lucky, then they never happen again.

[lawrawrrr]

I'm willing to do it every month, or answer questions as and when they're asked

[Chris]

I think that's the problems with takeovers, they happen once, twice if youre lucky, then they never happen again.

I want it to happen monthly. I dont see why it wont as long as we're all available.

[Sho]

I'll happily do it every month too, didn't get as many question this time apart from Charlie's

[Empired]

I'm willing to do it every month, or answer questions as and when they're asked
I'd like it to be a fixed monthly thing. If we go back to 'just answering questions when theyre asked' no one ever asks questions. I like the idea of the takeover because it means I can compile a list of all the things I want to discuss about habbox and then bring them to the meeting at the end of the month or whenever it is. If there wasn't a takeover, I would never bring up my points.

[Samantha]

Well the options were either to run a quiz and give people chance to think of more questions or to end the event there and then. This seems like a daft thing to criticise.

Why didn't you think of some yourself if there was a gap :P? Surely, even if you don't have ideas currently you could have thought about stuff, questioned the people there and actually get a discussion out of it. Some people might not think about the topic unless someone else brings it up - that someone could have been you. I'm not saying it's only you who has to come up with the questions, but I did see Shoned going back on feedback threads, getting ideas and relaying back to questions, likewise with Laura.


Yes that is correct. I'm not currently doing anything to gain new members myself, but at this time of year can you really blame me? I'm putting the majority of my time into organising things for the Christmas events, whilst also doing other bits and bobs that crop up in the mean time. I have no spare time right now to be coming up with new schemes to bring in new members.

What are you doing for Christmas then as I'm not 100% sure? You don't have to go too far into it, but I understand we're doing this 12 days of Christmas, what is your input are you hosting a 24 hour event too?


I will never put Habbox before my life and I am doing my absolute best to bring fun events to people for Christmas and other upcoming events. And if anyone dares comes out with the line "If you don't have time then resign" then I won't be held responsible for my actions.

I don't think anyone should be putting Habbox before their life, but member improvement should be ongoing regardless of timing issues. I'm not saying there needs to be massive amounts done - even if you had an idea that a department could run, you could ask them to do it, after all it should still improve members regardless of who runs it.

[Chris]

Why didn't you think of some yourself if there was a gap :P? Surely, even if you don't have ideas currently you could have thought about stuff, questioned the people there and actually get a discussion out of it. Some people might not think about the topic unless someone else brings it up - that someone could have been you. I'm not saying it's only you who has to come up with the questions, but I did see Shoned going back on feedback threads, getting ideas and relaying back to questions, likewise with Laura.

Because that was not the point of the event. I had nothing on my mind which I wanted to discuss.


What are you doing for Christmas then as I'm not 100% sure? You don't have to go too far into it, but I understand we're doing this 12 days of Christmas, what is your input are you hosting a 24 hour event too?

Organising Charity VIP, Habbox Advent Calendar, Habbox Christmas Challenges


I don't think anyone should be putting Habbox before their life, but member improvement should be ongoing regardless of timing issues. I'm not saying there needs to be massive amounts done - even if you had an idea that a department could run, you could ask them to do it, after all it should still improve members regardless of who runs it.

Ok and how do you know I'm not asking them? I find this incredibly hypocritical when I consider what you did during your stint as AGM.

[Samantha]

Because that was not the point of the event. I had nothing on my mind which I wanted to discuss.



Organising Charity VIP, Habbox Advent Calendar, Habbox Christmas Challenges



Ok and how do you know I'm not asking them? I find this incredibly hypocritical when I consider what you did during your stint as AGM.

1st point, if you had nothing to ask then that's understandable, but like Empired; said, it is the General Management takeover - questions should at least come from both sides.

2nd point, are you not doing a Client event then?

3rd point, I don't know if you've asked them or not, but this is feedback and I'm sure suggestions are welcome or has that changed? I was waiting for you to bring that up - I would be hypocritical if I wasn't doing anything or planning anything in Content, but I am- AGM is in the past, it'd be hypocritical if it was present. Also I don't recall saying I was doing nothing as AGM, I was doing events each month that I could possibly do (disregarding when I was away and ill). I always tried at AGM, it didn't always work, but I did try and always came out with something.

[Chris]

2nd point, are you not doing a Client event then?

No I'm bloody not. Is what I'm doing not good enough for you or something?


3rd point, I don't know if you've asked them or not, but this is feedback and I'm sure suggestions are welcome or has that changed? I was waiting for you to bring that up - I would be hypocritical if I wasn't doing anything or planning anything in Content, but I am- AGM is in the past, it'd be hypocritical if it was present. Also I don't recall saying I was doing nothing as AGM, I was doing events each month that I could possibly do (disregarding when I was away and ill). I always tried at AGM, it didn't always work, but I did try and always came out with something.

It's hypocritical no matter which way you look at it. You might not have said you were doing nothing but the fact you never produced anything said it all.

[Samantha]

No I'm bloody not. Is what I'm doing not good enough for you or something?



It's hypocritical no matter which way you look at it. You might not have said you were doing nothing but the fact you never produced anything said it all.

Can't I ask a simple question and just get a simple answer back without getting my head bitten off lol?

What about the tournaments I produced, the events for Habbo every month, kept things like official rooms and the lottery going (the latter until the ban). Did I not bring new roles to departments (e.g. Guest Events Organisers), did I not fund certain departments when they needed it out of my own pocket Empired;). That doesn't seem like nothing at all to me.

[Chris]

Can't I ask a simple question and just get a simple answer back without getting my head bitten off lol?

What about the tournaments I produced, the events for Habbo every month, kept things like official rooms and the lottery going (the latter until the ban). Did I not bring new roles to departments (e.g. Guest Events Organisers), did I not fund certain departments when they needed it out of my own pocket Empired;). That doesn't seem like nothing at all to me.

You know what, you can say what you like. You don't need to try and convince me or anyone else here, I think we have all formed out own opinions about what went on back then and whatever you say probably wont change that.

[Samantha]

You know what, you can say what you like. You don't need to try and convince me or anyone else here, I think we have all formed out own opinions about what went on back then and whatever you say probably wont change that.

I'm not trying to convince anyone lmao, but saying I did nothing is a little harsh when there's proof that I did various things.

Anyway, I do hope some of this thread will be taken on board for the next takeover!

[Chris]

I'm not trying to convince anyone lmao, but saying I did nothing is a little harsh when there's proof that I did various things.

Anyway, I do hope some of this thread will be taken on board for the next takeover!

I'm sure it will!

[Jssy]

Didn't get to attend this so it would be good in future if we could have minutes recorded. In all honesty I completely forgot about it :(

[Yupt]

One of the things mentioned was about people missing the competitions they want to enter, this being the case I just want to remind everyone about the Competitions Subscription (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=794689&goto=newpost) scheme which allows you to be VM'd every time a competition associated with the theme you like comes out.

It's a really useful scheme and it means you'll never miss another one again!

[Sho]

I think next time I'll keep a note of everything that was discussed and post them in here. That way anyone can ask any further questions they might think of regarding anything, or just have a basic idea of what went on and what we're doing if they couldn't make it.

[Kyle]

Chris I don't think a sly -rep telling me to "use the search feature" will suffice in justifying your position or outline your contribution. If you don't respond well to criticism and can't invalidate comments you feel are unfair with any real substance then I suggest you leave the feedback forum, like everything else, to Laura and shonly.


~~from phone

[Empired]

No I'm bloody not. Is what I'm doing not good enough for you or something?
As Forum Manager I wouldn't expect you to host events on-client, but you appear to have forgotten that you are not Forum Manager anymore. You are General Manager and should be a figurehead for Habbox, yet no one on-client seems to know who you are.


It's hypocritical no matter which way you look at it. You might not have said you were doing nothing but the fact you never produced anything said it all.
This seems like a sly dig to take the attention off you and that kinda makes me question why you're in the role as General Manager. From where I'm looking, it seems like you're received some negative feedback, responded badly to it and then as a last resort screamed "bUT SAMANFA WAS WORSE!!!1!!1!1!!!11one"

Who cares what Samanfa was like as AGM? She could have been the worst AGM Habbox ever had (which she wasn't) and it would still be irrelevant. She's not one now, but you are General Manager. So, General Manager, how are you going to respond to the feedback about you needing to be on the client more?

[Empired]

Wispur; why did you remove your post?

[Inseriousity.]

I think it's clear to everyone who's ever used the client frequently enough to know that there are 2 communities at Habbox:

- the Habbo community.
Usually younger, more likely to enter competitions, attend events, listen to HxL but not necessarily use the forum. Will give feedback more spontaneously and via discussion rather than the rather rigid feedback forum. Also more banter, gossip and ********.

- the forum community
Older, don't regularly use Habbo, less likely to get involved with Habbox activities and stick to discussion, using Habbox more out of habit than because they're active on Habbo or care about creds etc. Active around the forum.

The problem with Habbox at the moment is that things are often focused on the forum community, they are the most vocal (in forums like this) about what can be improved. Things and new features are often 'targeted' towards the forum community. The Habbo community is dying. Events, when they happen, can take a while to fill up, the help desk is empty during the day, HabboxLive don't have parties or any sort of Habbo interaction. I think a large part of this is precisely because general management do not use Habbo frequently so the only feedback they have to go on is the forum community. That does absolutely nothing for the Habbo community, which is essential for boosting up numbers and keeping Habbox alive long-term because that forum community will eventually slide away with no Habbo community to keep it going. Things need to be targeted towards Habbos, towards 'noobs' and newbies who are more likely to get involved. When I was comps manager, entries increased tenfold because of an increase in advertising on Habbo (which by the way is why I get really annoyed when people say comps isn't a community department just because it's on the forum) and when comps are directed towards getting the forum community involved, it inevitably falls flat.

TLDR: we need an action plan to address the declining Habbo community and to know what general management are working on to increase our Habbo presence.

PS I am aware that there is some obvious overlap and that you may not fit neatly into 1 of these categories but generally speaking, it's what I tended to find during my time as AGM.

[scottish]

I would love to be on client more, but the truth of it is that I really do not have the spare time to spend on client. I don't care if you think it's a classic excuse because you do not understand the pressure that comes with the role. I spend so much time doing tasks that people are requesting, doing permissions and events planning that I couldn't possibly fit anything else in if I tried. This is of course on top of the work I have to do for university and the social life that I try to maintain.

Sorry, but I can't take anyone serious who says they don't have time, and include doing permissions as one of their tasks. Changing perms takes about 8 seconds (if you're not already on ACP) about 4 if you are. Doing permissions is never going to be a time consuming task (especially as there's very few that even happen per day).


And if anyone dares comes out with the line "If you don't have time then resign" then I won't be held responsible for my actions.

Someone has to do it.. If you don't have time then resign.


Organising Charity VIP, Habbox Advent Calendar, Habbox Christmas Challenges

Again, you say all your times going into that, all you're doing for Charity VIP is throwing a poll up, waiting a while then throwing another poll up. Eventually you'll have to activate another type of VIP for people to buy then that's it..

Habbox Advent Calendar, the script is already there from previous years so all you've got to do is come up with something for each 'door'. Christmas Challenges are part of Advent Calendar, no?


Ok and how do you know I'm not asking them? I find this incredibly hypocritical when I consider what you did during your stint as AGM.

*REMOVED*


No I'm bloody not. Is what I'm doing not good enough for you or something?

*REMOVED*


It's hypocritical no matter which way you look at it. You might not have said you were doing nothing but the fact you never produced anything said it all.

Again, why you feel the need to target someone who's providing constructive feedback I have no idea.. *REMOVED*


Chris I don't think a sly -rep telling me to "use the search feature" will suffice in justifying your position or outline your contribution. If you don't respond well to criticism and can't invalidate comments you feel are unfair with any real substance then I suggest you leave the feedback forum, like everything else, to Laura and shonly.

+1


So, General Manager, how are you going to respond to the feedback about you needing to be on the client more?

By targeting previous AGMs, of course.

Edited by e5 (Forum Super Moderator) - Please do not be rude to others.

[Empired]

I think it's clear to everyone who's ever used the client frequently enough to know that there are 2 communities at Habbox:

- the Habbo community.
Usually younger, more likely to enter competitions, attend events, listen to HxL but not necessarily use the forum. Will give feedback more spontaneously and via discussion rather than the rather rigid feedback forum. Also more banter, gossip and ********.

- the forum community
Older, don't regularly use Habbo, less likely to get involved with Habbox activities and stick to discussion, using Habbox more out of habit than because they're active on Habbo or care about creds etc. Active around the forum.

The problem with Habbox at the moment is that things are often focused on the forum community, they are the most vocal (in forums like this) about what can be improved. Things and new features are often 'targeted' towards the forum community. The Habbo community is dying. Events, when they happen, can take a while to fill up, the help desk is empty during the day, HabboxLive don't have parties or any sort of Habbo interaction. I think a large part of this is precisely because general management do not use Habbo frequently so the only feedback they have to go on is the forum community. That does absolutely nothing for the Habbo community, which is essential for boosting up numbers and keeping Habbox alive long-term because that forum community will eventually slide away with no Habbo community to keep it going. Things need to be targeted towards Habbos, towards 'noobs' and newbies who are more likely to get involved. When I was comps manager, entries increased tenfold because of an increase in advertising on Habbo (which by the way is why I get really annoyed when people say comps isn't a community department just because it's on the forum) and when comps are directed towards getting the forum community involved, it inevitably falls flat.

TLDR: we need an action plan to address the declining Habbo community and to know what general management are working on to increase our Habbo presence.

PS I am aware that there is some obvious overlap and that you may not fit neatly into 1 of these categories but generally speaking, it's what I tended to find during my time as AGM.
Spot on here. I'll +rep you when I've finished this post as I think this is right on the money. I'd say I overlap as I use Habbo regularly but have no interest in credits, competitions or HabboxLive anymore.

General Management need to scout around the Hotel and find out what younger Habbos enjoy. Take notes from what other fansites are doing. ThisHabbo currently has an event on with 19 people on it. 19 people! At 12:45pm on a weekday! Just to put that in perspective, the Help Desk has two people in it: me and davecool656

Also look around the most popular rooms on Habbo. What do they offer that Habbox doesn't? Obviously we can't offer army rooms or anything but look at the events that are held, look at party rooms, look at RP rooms.
Perhaps try and collaborate with popular Habbo users. Can't think of any myself but I'm sure you could find some people.

[Sian]

Well, this whole thing showed laura in a much better light for me. But I'm sorry Chris, perms, VIP etc is a FORUM MANAGERS job.

It shouldnt be up to you at all, if the agm structure was set right you would have time to come up with some ideas to bring in new members and go on the client a bit more.

Delegate things, sho and Laura definitely seem willing to help and eliviate you and if you want come up with anything, well then there's a problem.

Would also like to know what our agms thought about the session themselves.

[lawrawrrr]

Il do a proper reply about the session later if you'd like Sian, I've got some time over lunch - i was in a bad light before though????

I'm more than happy o help out with other stuff, I mean I already do quite a lot around various departments but planning and things or just coming up with ideas (the 12 days of Xmas was my idea!!) I love doing.

As I said in the room my role means that it's my responsibility that we offer things the community will use and want, and that things are as up to date as they can be. I've been making lot more of an effort recently to talk to people on and off client - the thing is when I am on I don't spend a lot of time in Habbox rooms - most people in there are already HABBOX members!! I've mainly been focusing on talking to new members of staff but they are the ones crucial to making sure what we provide content-wise is the best it can be.


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[Chris]

Sorry, but I can't take anyone serious who says they don't have time, and include doing permissions as one of their tasks. Changing perms takes about 8 seconds (if you're not already on ACP) about 4 if you are. Doing permissions is never going to be a time consuming task (especially as there's very few that even happen per day).

Yes Scott, because the only thing I do is permissions. :rolleyes:


Again, you say all your times going into that, all you're doing for Charity VIP is throwing a poll up, waiting a while then throwing another poll up. Eventually you'll have to activate another type of VIP for people to buy then that's it..

Oh so visiting each charity site, finding a description and making sure they're registered charities doesn't come into it then? All you ever do is belittle everything and thats down to the fact that you don't have any understanding of how long they take when they're combined.


Habbox Advent Calendar, the script is already there from previous years so all you've got to do is come up with something for each 'door'. Christmas Challenges are part of Advent Calendar, no?

I admit it's the easiest one of the lot, but I'm trying to find and come up with questions that haven't been used in the past.


Well, this whole thing showed laura in a much better light for me. But I'm sorry Chris, perms, VIP etc is a FORUM MANAGERS job.

Wrong. Permissions need setting up on the forum, habbox.com and then HabboxLive if thats relevant. Forum management have nothing to do with it. VIP is a features manager job which isn't something I do anyway.


It shouldnt be up to you at all, if the agm structure was set right you would have time to come up with some ideas to bring in new members and go on the client a bit more.

Delegate things, sho and Laura definitely seem willing to help and eliviate you and if you want come up with anything, well then there's a problem.

Theres nothing wrong with the structure. Laura and Sho have their own jobs to do so I'm not going to pile anything else onto them when I'm quite capable of doing it myself.

[scottish]

Yes Scott, because the only thing I do is permissions.

Not sure if you're stupid or can't read, I'll reiterate that for you, if you're trying to state 'oh I have so much to do' don't include permissions (even though as mentioned above this should be done by Forum Management not you) as it takes seconds to do.


Oh so visiting each charity site, finding a description and making sure they're registered charities doesn't come into it then? All you ever do is belittle everything and thats down to the fact that you don't have any understanding of how long they take when they're combined.

It's hardly an effort, 99% charities will have a description on Google, Wiki or their 'About Us' page. Again, each has their registered charity number on their footer in 99% of cases. If that fails then http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/Showcharity/RegisterOfCharities/registerhomepage.aspx again each has a description and whether they're registered or not on there.

I don't underestimate everything, I appropriately estimate the time it takes to perform various tasks.

[Chris]

Not sure if you're stupid or can't read, I'll reiterate that for you, if you're trying to state 'oh I have so much to do' don't include permissions (even though as mentioned above this should be done by Forum Management not you) as it takes seconds to do.

So because permissions don't take long, they shouldn't be included? Every task alone doesn't take long to do, its when you add them all together that you start to see how much time Habbox takes.


It's hardly an effort, 99% charities will have a description on Google, Wiki or their 'About Us' page. Again, each has their registered charity number on their footer in 99% of cases. If that fails then http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/Showcharity/RegisterOfCharities/registerhomepage.aspx again each has a description and whether they're registered or not on there.

I don't underestimate everything, I appropriately estimate the time it takes to perform various tasks.

Well you don't estimate it very well then.

[scottish]

A task that literally takes seconds is not worth adding. Especially if you're trying to act as if it's time consuming.


Well you don't estimate it very well then.

I must do.

It took me 15 minutes to look through the 7 pages, note down every charity find out if they're registered and get a description..

Ataxia - Registered (1102391) - ATAXIA UK SUPPORTS PEOPLE AFFECTED BY FRIEDREICH'S ATAXIA AND CEREBELLAR ATAXIAS BY FUNDING MEDICAL AND OTHER RESEARCH, PILOTING NEW SERVICE DELIVERY MODELS, AND DISSEMINATING RESULTS; PROVIDING INFORMATION TO PEOPLE WITH ATAXIA, MEDICAL, AND SOCIAL CARE PROFESSIONALS; DISTRIBUTION OF WELFARE GRANTS; CAMPAIGNING FOR IMPROVEMENT IN TREATMENT AND SERVICES; FACILITATING SELF-HELP GROUPS.


AgeUK - Registered (1128267) - AGE UK AIMS TO CREATE A WORLD WHERE OLDER PEOPLE CAN LIVE THEIR LIVES FREE FROM POVERTY, ISOLATION AND NEGLECT. IT RAISES AWARENESS OF ISSUES AFFECTING OLDER PEOPLE IN THE UK AND OVERSEAS, RESEARCHES AND CAMPAIGNS FOR CHANGES IN POLICY AND PRACTICE, AND OFFERS PRACTICAL SUPPORT TO DISADVANTAGED OLDER PEOPLE. IT IS FUNDED BY INDIVIDUALS, COMPANIES AND TRUSTS.


Dogs Trust - Registered (227523) - DOGS TRUST OPERATES A NETWORK OF 17 REHOMING CENTRES ACROSS THE UK. EACH CENTRE PROVIDES DOG ACCOMODATION, PUPPY HOUSES, ISOLATION BLOCKS AND TREATMENT ROOMS. DOGS TRUST PROVIDES FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE TO ALLOW OWNERS IN GENUINE NEED TO HAVE THEIR DOGS NEUTERED THROUGH PARTICIPATING VETERINARY PRACTICES. DOGS TRUST PROVIDES EDUCATIONAL MATERIAL ON RESPONSIBLE DOG OWNERSHIP FOR ALL AGES.


RSPCA - Registered (219099) - TO PREVENT CRUELTY, PROMOTE KINDNESS AND TO ALLEVIATE SUFFERING OF ANIMALS.


Shelterbox - Registered (1096479) - SHELTERBOX PROVIDES EMERGENCY SHELTER AND VITAL SUPPLIES TO SUPPORT COMMUNITIES AROUND THE WORLD OVERWHELMED BY DISASTER AND HUMANITARIAN CRISES.


Doctors Without Borders - Not UK Registered


Scouts UK - Registered (306101) - SCOUTING ACTIVELY ENGAGES AND SUPPORTS YOUNG PEOPLE IN THEIR PERSONAL DEVELOPMENT, EMPOWERING THEM TO MAKE A POSITIVE CONTRIBUTION TO SOCIETY.


ALS - Not UK Registered


Cancer Research - Registered (1089464) - TO PROTECT AND PROMOTE THE HEALTH OF THE PUBLIC IN PARTICULAR BY RESEARCH INTO THE NATURE, CAUSES, DIAGNOSIS, PREVENTION, TREATMENT AND CURE OF ALL FORMS OF CANCER, INCLUDING THE DEVELOPMENT OF RESEARCH INTO PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS FOR THE PREVENTION, TREATMENT AND CURE OF CANCER AND TO PROVIDE INFORMATION AND RAISE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDING OF SUCH MATTERS.


Alzheimers society - Registered (296645) - ALZHEIMER'S SOCIETY STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS PROVIDE SERVICES TO PEOPLE AFFECTED BY DEMENTIA, INCLUDING DAY CARE AND HOME CARE, SUPPORT AND BEFRIENDING SERVICES ACROSS ENGLAND, WALES AND NORTHERN IRELAND. WE PROVIDE INFORMATION AND TRAINING, AND EVERY YEAR WE INVEST IN RESEARCH. WE CAMPAIGN FOR THE RIGHTS OF PEOPLE WITH DEMENTIA AND THOSE WHO CARE FOR THEM.


UK Sands - Registered (299679) - SANDS OFFERS SUPPORT TO PARENTS AND FAMILIES WHOSE BABY HAS DIED, PROVIDING A WIDE RANGE OF SERVICES WHICH INCLUDE A NATIONAL HELPLINE AND A UK-WIDE NETWORK OF VOLUNTARY GROUPS RUN BY AND FOR BEREAVED PARENTS. SANDS ALSO WORKS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH HEALTH PROFESSIONALS TO ENSURE THAT BEREAVED PARENTS RECEIVE THE BEST POSSIBLE CARE AND PROMOTES RESEARCH TO REDUCE THE LOSS OF BABIES' LIVES.


Epilepsy Action - Registered (234343) - EXISTS TO IMPROVE THE LIVES OF PEOPLE AFFECTED BY EPILEPSY.


Blind children UK - Registered (1051607) - SUPPORT OF VISUALLY IMPAIRED CHILDREN, THEIR FAMILIES & HELPERS BY PROVIDING THE 5 KEY SERVICES OF FAMILY SUPPORT, EDUCATIONAL ADVOCACY, I/T SUPPORT & EQUIPMENT, HOLIDAYS & ACTIVITIES & LARGE PRINT BOOKS.


RNLI - Registered (209603) - TO SAVE LIVES, PROMOTE SAFETY AND RESCUE SERVICE EFFICIENCY, AND PROVIDE RELIEF FROM DISASTER AT SEA AND ON INLAND AND FLOOD WATERS; TO ADVANCE THE EDUCATION OF THE PUBLIC IN MATTERS RELATING TO SEA, INLAND AND FLOOD WATER SAFETY, AND IN THE HISTORY AND HERITAGE OF THE INSTITUTION; TO RELIEVE/ASSIST THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN SAVING LIVES AT SEA AND ON INLAND AND FLOOD WATERS IN ANY CAPACITY.


Russ Foundation - Registered (1076436) - TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR EDUCATION, FOOD AND SHELTER FOR ORPHANS OR CHILDREN OF DESTITUTE FAMILES IN SOUTH INDIA.


Childs Play Charity - Not UK Registered


Parkinsons UK - Registered (258197) - PARKINSON'S UK IS THE PARKINSON'S SUPPORT AND RESEARCH CHARITY. THEY ARE LEADING THE WORK TO FIND A CURE AND IMPROVE LIFE FOR EVERYONE AFFECTED BY PARKINSON'S. THE CHARITY BRINGS PEOPLE WITH PARKINSON'S, THEIR CARERS AND FAMILIES TOGETHER AND PROVIDES THEM WITH INFORMATION, FRIENDSHIP AND SUPPORT. IT CAMPAIGNS TO CHANGE ATTITUDES AND DEMAND BETTER SERVICES. ITS WORK IS DEPENDENT ON DONATIONS.


Crohn's and Colitis UK - Registered (1117148) - PROVIDING SUPPORT & INFORMATION FOR PATIENTS & THEIR FAMILIES WHO ARE AFFECTED BY INFLAMMATORY BOWEL DISEASES (IBD) RAISING PUBLIC & POLITICAL AWARENESS OF IBD STRIVING TO IMPROVE HEALTHCARE SERVICES & PROVISION FOR IBD INFLUENCING THE ATTITUDES OF SOCIETY TO ACHIEVE POSITIVE CHANGE FOR THOSE AFFECTED BY IBD PROMOTING RESEARCH INTO ALL ASPECTS OF IBD & HOW THEY AFFECT PEOPLE'S LIVES MIND


Yorkhill Childrens Charity - Scottish Registered


MediCinema - Registered (1058197) - THE INSTALLATION AND OPERATION OF STATE OF THE ART CINEMAS IN HOSPITALS AND ANNUAL FILM SCREENING PROGRAMME FOR PATIENTS OF ALL AGES (INCLUDING THOSE IN BEDS & WHEELCHAIRS) THEIR FAMILIES AND CARERS. ADMISSION FREE OF CHARGE.


Kidney Kids Scotland - Scottish Registered


Rainbow Trust - Registered (1070532) - RAINBOW TRUST CHILDREN'S CHARITY PROVIDES EMOTIONAL AND PRACTICAL SUPPORT TO FAMILIES WHO HAVE A CHILD WITH A LIFE THREATENING OR TERMINAL ILLNESS.


Clic Sargent - Registered (1107328) - CLIC SARGENT IS THERE FOR CHILDREN AND YOUNG PEOPLE WITH CANCER. WE ARE THERE FOR THEIR FAMILIES TOO, RESPONDING TO THEIR INDIVIDUAL NEEDS AND CARING THROUGH TREATMENT AND BEYOND.


Formatting will be ****, but the point stands. It's not time consuming. I started that about a minute after I posted my previous reply btw.

[Chris]

A task that literally takes seconds is not worth adding. Especially if you're trying to act as if it's time consuming.



I must do.

It took me 15 minutes to look through the 7 pages, note down every charity find out if they're registered and get a description..

Ataxia - Registered (1102391) - ATAXIA UK SUPPORTS PEOPLE AFFECTED BY FRIEDREICH'S ATAXIA AND CEREBELLAR ATAXIAS BY FUNDING MEDICAL AND OTHER RESEARCH, PILOTING NEW SERVICE DELIVERY MODELS, AND DISSEMINATING RESULTS; PROVIDING INFORMATION TO PEOPLE WITH ATAXIA, MEDICAL, AND SOCIAL CARE PROFESSIONALS; DISTRIBUTION OF WELFARE GRANTS; CAMPAIGNING FOR IMPROVEMENT IN TREATMENT AND SERVICES; FACILITATING SELF-HELP GROUPS.


AgeUK - Registered (1128267) - AGE UK AIMS TO CREATE A WORLD WHERE OLDER PEOPLE CAN LIVE THEIR LIVES FREE FROM POVERTY, ISOLATION AND NEGLECT. IT RAISES AWARENESS OF ISSUES AFFECTING OLDER PEOPLE IN THE UK AND OVERSEAS, RESEARCHES AND CAMPAIGNS FOR CHANGES IN POLICY AND PRACTICE, AND OFFERS PRACTICAL SUPPORT TO DISADVANTAGED OLDER PEOPLE. IT IS FUNDED BY INDIVIDUALS, COMPANIES AND TRUSTS.


Dogs Trust - Registered (227523) - DOGS TRUST OPERATES A NETWORK OF 17 REHOMING CENTRES ACROSS THE UK. EACH CENTRE PROVIDES DOG ACCOMODATION, PUPPY HOUSES, ISOLATION BLOCKS AND TREATMENT ROOMS. DOGS TRUST PROVIDES FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE TO ALLOW OWNERS IN GENUINE NEED TO HAVE THEIR DOGS NEUTERED THROUGH PARTICIPATING VETERINARY PRACTICES. DOGS TRUST PROVIDES EDUCATIONAL MATERIAL ON RESPONSIBLE DOG OWNERSHIP FOR ALL AGES.


RSPCA - Registered (219099) - TO PREVENT CRUELTY, PROMOTE KINDNESS AND TO ALLEVIATE SUFFERING OF ANIMALS.


Shelterbox - Registered (1096479) - SHELTERBOX PROVIDES EMERGENCY SHELTER AND VITAL SUPPLIES TO SUPPORT COMMUNITIES AROUND THE WORLD OVERWHELMED BY DISASTER AND HUMANITARIAN CRISES.


Doctors Without Borders - Not UK Registered


Scouts UK - Registered (306101) - SCOUTING ACTIVELY ENGAGES AND SUPPORTS YOUNG PEOPLE IN THEIR PERSONAL DEVELOPMENT, EMPOWERING THEM TO MAKE A POSITIVE CONTRIBUTION TO SOCIETY.


ALS - Not UK Registered


Cancer Research - Registered (1089464) - TO PROTECT AND PROMOTE THE HEALTH OF THE PUBLIC IN PARTICULAR BY RESEARCH INTO THE NATURE, CAUSES, DIAGNOSIS, PREVENTION, TREATMENT AND CURE OF ALL FORMS OF CANCER, INCLUDING THE DEVELOPMENT OF RESEARCH INTO PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS FOR THE PREVENTION, TREATMENT AND CURE OF CANCER AND TO PROVIDE INFORMATION AND RAISE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDING OF SUCH MATTERS.


Alzheimers society - Registered (296645) - ALZHEIMER'S SOCIETY STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS PROVIDE SERVICES TO PEOPLE AFFECTED BY DEMENTIA, INCLUDING DAY CARE AND HOME CARE, SUPPORT AND BEFRIENDING SERVICES ACROSS ENGLAND, WALES AND NORTHERN IRELAND. WE PROVIDE INFORMATION AND TRAINING, AND EVERY YEAR WE INVEST IN RESEARCH. WE CAMPAIGN FOR THE RIGHTS OF PEOPLE WITH DEMENTIA AND THOSE WHO CARE FOR THEM.


UK Sands - Registered (299679) - SANDS OFFERS SUPPORT TO PARENTS AND FAMILIES WHOSE BABY HAS DIED, PROVIDING A WIDE RANGE OF SERVICES WHICH INCLUDE A NATIONAL HELPLINE AND A UK-WIDE NETWORK OF VOLUNTARY GROUPS RUN BY AND FOR BEREAVED PARENTS. SANDS ALSO WORKS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH HEALTH PROFESSIONALS TO ENSURE THAT BEREAVED PARENTS RECEIVE THE BEST POSSIBLE CARE AND PROMOTES RESEARCH TO REDUCE THE LOSS OF BABIES' LIVES.


Epilepsy Action - Registered (234343) - EXISTS TO IMPROVE THE LIVES OF PEOPLE AFFECTED BY EPILEPSY.


Blind children UK - Registered (1051607) - SUPPORT OF VISUALLY IMPAIRED CHILDREN, THEIR FAMILIES & HELPERS BY PROVIDING THE 5 KEY SERVICES OF FAMILY SUPPORT, EDUCATIONAL ADVOCACY, I/T SUPPORT & EQUIPMENT, HOLIDAYS & ACTIVITIES & LARGE PRINT BOOKS.


RNLI - Registered (209603) - TO SAVE LIVES, PROMOTE SAFETY AND RESCUE SERVICE EFFICIENCY, AND PROVIDE RELIEF FROM DISASTER AT SEA AND ON INLAND AND FLOOD WATERS; TO ADVANCE THE EDUCATION OF THE PUBLIC IN MATTERS RELATING TO SEA, INLAND AND FLOOD WATER SAFETY, AND IN THE HISTORY AND HERITAGE OF THE INSTITUTION; TO RELIEVE/ASSIST THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN SAVING LIVES AT SEA AND ON INLAND AND FLOOD WATERS IN ANY CAPACITY.


Russ Foundation - Registered (1076436) - TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR EDUCATION, FOOD AND SHELTER FOR ORPHANS OR CHILDREN OF DESTITUTE FAMILES IN SOUTH INDIA.


Childs Play Charity - Not UK Registered


Parkinsons UK - Registered (258197) - PARKINSON'S UK IS THE PARKINSON'S SUPPORT AND RESEARCH CHARITY. THEY ARE LEADING THE WORK TO FIND A CURE AND IMPROVE LIFE FOR EVERYONE AFFECTED BY PARKINSON'S. THE CHARITY BRINGS PEOPLE WITH PARKINSON'S, THEIR CARERS AND FAMILIES TOGETHER AND PROVIDES THEM WITH INFORMATION, FRIENDSHIP AND SUPPORT. IT CAMPAIGNS TO CHANGE ATTITUDES AND DEMAND BETTER SERVICES. ITS WORK IS DEPENDENT ON DONATIONS.


Crohn's and Colitis UK - Registered (1117148) - PROVIDING SUPPORT & INFORMATION FOR PATIENTS & THEIR FAMILIES WHO ARE AFFECTED BY INFLAMMATORY BOWEL DISEASES (IBD) RAISING PUBLIC & POLITICAL AWARENESS OF IBD STRIVING TO IMPROVE HEALTHCARE SERVICES & PROVISION FOR IBD INFLUENCING THE ATTITUDES OF SOCIETY TO ACHIEVE POSITIVE CHANGE FOR THOSE AFFECTED BY IBD PROMOTING RESEARCH INTO ALL ASPECTS OF IBD & HOW THEY AFFECT PEOPLE'S LIVES MIND


Yorkhill Childrens Charity - Scottish Registered


MediCinema - Registered (1058197) - THE INSTALLATION AND OPERATION OF STATE OF THE ART CINEMAS IN HOSPITALS AND ANNUAL FILM SCREENING PROGRAMME FOR PATIENTS OF ALL AGES (INCLUDING THOSE IN BEDS & WHEELCHAIRS) THEIR FAMILIES AND CARERS. ADMISSION FREE OF CHARGE.


Kidney Kids Scotland - Scottish Registered


Rainbow Trust - Registered (1070532) - RAINBOW TRUST CHILDREN'S CHARITY PROVIDES EMOTIONAL AND PRACTICAL SUPPORT TO FAMILIES WHO HAVE A CHILD WITH A LIFE THREATENING OR TERMINAL ILLNESS.


Clic Sargent - Registered (1107328) - CLIC SARGENT IS THERE FOR CHILDREN AND YOUNG PEOPLE WITH CANCER. WE ARE THERE FOR THEIR FAMILIES TOO, RESPONDING TO THEIR INDIVIDUAL NEEDS AND CARING THROUGH TREATMENT AND BEYOND.


Formatting will be ****, but the point stands. It's not time consuming. I started that about a minute after I posted my previous reply btw.

Right... and how do I know you didn't just go to the thread and copy it all? To be honest, I don't care what you have to say Scott. If you have something useful to say then say it, otherwise don't bother posting. If you don't like how Habbox is being run then you know where the door is.

[scottish]

Copy what? Each description is taken from the Charity Commission along with the UK registered company number (you can check each of them).

Same back at you, don't post **** saying something is taking you ever so long when in fact it's either seconds, or your most major task taking a whole 15 minutes!1!

Wouldn't have had to reply to this thread in the first place if you didn't feel the need to target another forum member because they're giving you constructive criticism lol..

[Samantha]

Right... and how do I know you didn't just go to the thread and copy it all? To be honest, I don't care what you have to say Scott. If you have something useful to say then say it, otherwise don't bother posting. If you don't like how Habbox is being run then you know where the door is.

Going to hazard a guess and say he didn't copy as yours aren't in capitals and he said where to get them :P.

I understand you're working on Christmas stuff, is there anything else you're currently working on not including overseeing anything?

[Chris]

Copy what? Each description is taken from the Charity Commission along with the UK registered company number (you can check each of them).

Same back at you, don't post **** saying something is taking you ever so long when in fact it's either seconds, or your most major task taking a whole 15 minutes!1!

Wouldn't have had to reply to this thread in the first place if you didn't feel the need to target another forum member because they're giving you constructive criticism lol..

You didn't have to reply at all. The people who did leave something constructive will have their feedback implemented. I took each point of what they said and answered accordingly. If I felt they were targeting me unfairly then I replied to them unfairly too.


Going to hazard a guess and say he didn't copy as yours aren't in capitals and he said where to get them :P.

I understand you're working on Christmas stuff, is there anything else you're currently working on not including overseeing anything?

No not at this time.

[Samantha]

You didn't have to reply at all. The people who did leave something constructive will have their feedback implemented. I took each point of what they said and answered accordingly. If I felt they were targeting me unfairly then I replied to them unfairly too.



No not at this time.

When did I target you unfairly then as I've been giving CC throughout the thread and then you jumped on my back after asking questions?

[Chris]

When did I target you unfairly then as I've been giving CC throughout the thread and then you jumped on my back after asking questions?

Most of what you said was constructive and I apologise if I came across as snappy. The idea of the event was for people to ask questions, but we can of course implement your ideas too.

The part that annoyed me is when you brought up what I said at the end of the event. I am putting a lot of effort into the Christmas events (Despite what some people say) and cannot physically do anymore at the moment. When I answered the question on client, I wasn't saying that I'm doing nothing at all. I was simply saying that I'm doing nothing to grab the attention of new members at the moment. I think the answer I gave there has been misinterpreted.

I would also like to know why people are jumping on my back all of a sudden and making out as though I don't do anything. I'm doing as much as what Matt did as General Manager with my own additions and changes. I don't ever recall people questioning Matt or having a go at him for not having an idea when being put on the spot. The GM takeover was originally my idea anyway so without that you wouldn't have had that opportunity to ask questions.

Anyway, if I've upset anyone with my original response then I'm sorry. I just won't stand for people saying I do nothing when what they're saying is based on nothing but ignorance.

[Kyle]

If you don't like how Habbox is being run then you know where the door is.
This appears to be your mantra across all feedback threads. Stop embarrassing yourself and those that are carrying you.

You're stretching your minute performance as far as it will go to make it appear as though you do more, much like a person that prepares a meal might suggest that chopping onions and peeling carrots are separate and strenuous efforts or a writer would outline that they write in introduction , fourteen paragraphs an a conclusion. No-- you Cooked a meal, you wrote an essay; stop bigging up te little jobs and involve yourself more. Involve YOURSELF. Show initiative, organise things not because you are told , but because you want the habbox community to thrive. Why did you take a more hands-on community-focused role if you aren't prepared to do any leg work that isn't behind the scenes? Step down, Laura's doing your role already.


~~from phone

[Samantha]

Most of what you said was constructive and I apologise if I came across as snappy. The idea of the event was for people to ask questions, but we can of course implement your ideas too.

The part that annoyed me is when you brought up what I said at the end of the event. I am putting a lot of effort into the Christmas events (Despite what some people say) and cannot physically do anymore at the moment. When I answered the question on client, I wasn't saying that I'm doing nothing at all. I was simply saying that I'm doing nothing to grab the attention of new members at the moment. I think the answer I gave there has been misinterpreted.

I would also like to know why people are jumping on my back all of a sudden and making out as though I don't do anything. I'm doing as much as what Matt did as General Manager with my own additions and changes. I don't ever recall people questioning Matt or having a go at him for not having an idea when being put on the spot. The GM takeover was originally my idea anyway so without that you wouldn't have had that opportunity to ask questions.

Anyway, if I've upset anyone with my original response then I'm sorry. I just won't stand for people saying I do nothing when what they're saying is based on nothing but ignorance.

It wasn't misinterpreted, you're not doing anything currently to improve members, that's how I took it. You're working on Christmas which is understandable, but I personally thought member improvement is a constant thing. Ideas could be as big or as small as long as it's something!

Takeovers have been done for years at Habbox, similar formats etc. a General Management one might have been your suggestion, but it isn't unique. However, at least the team listened again and made sure we got our voices heard :). On the other hand, saying that questions couldn't be answered without the takeover... we do have a question forum, couldn't they be answered anyway by VM, PM, that forum etc.? I know they may not be answered as much there, but there are other ways to answer them not just with a takeover. For the record though I do want to see more of them. Hopefully you see where I'm coming from though.

[Chris]

It wasn't misinterpreted, you're not doing anything currently to improve members, that's how I took it. You're working on Christmas which is understandable, but I personally thought member improvement is a constant thing. Ideas could be as big or as small as long as it's something!

I think some people have taken it as I'm not doing anything at all. Member improvement isn't something we constantly do and you know that Sam.


Takeovers have been done for years at Habbox, similar formats etc. a General Management one might have been your suggestion, but it isn't unique.

Yeah thats why I said the gm takeover specifically was my idea. :P It was of course inspired by the forum takeovers that we used to do.


However, at least the team listened again and made sure we got our voices heard :). On the other hand, saying that questions couldn't be answered without the takeover... we do have a question forum, couldn't they be answered anyway by VM, PM, that forum etc.? I know they may not be answered as much there, but there are other ways to answer them not just with a takeover. For the record though I do want to see more of them. Hopefully you see where I'm coming from though.

Well technically people can ask the questions on the forum, but then again don't you think its much easier and more community spirited if it's done live on Habbo? :P The Habbox Hallway became the most popular room during the event which is really good to see.

[scottish]

create a faq/questions thread for simple little questions that don't need a thread

[Empired]

@Wispur (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=55895); why did you remove your post?
I'll ask again @Wispur (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=55895);

I received a quote from you in here which I didn't read straight away. When I tried to, it had been hidden. Were you even ruder than you have been to other members and decided it was inappropriate or...?

[Chris]

I'll ask again @Wispur (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=55895);

I received a quote from you in here which I didn't read straight away. When I tried to, it had been hidden. Were you even ruder than you have been to other members and decided it was inappropriate or...?

I decided that saying nothing was better than saying what I did say. Nothing for you to worry about now. :)

[Inseriousity.]

I think Sam's point was member interaction is something that should be constantly done rather than as an afterthought. A lot of this thread - and the many more before it - is down to communication and Matt was not immune to criticism either (the difference being you actually reply even if it is with a slightly aggressive attitude whereas he'd leave it to his AGMs to defend general management so you are an improvement in that regard at least). In fact, the whole action plan thread was made precisely because of the lack of action, lack of ideas, lack of communication. Would there be a request for an action plan if the community could already see it for themselves? Perms, planning and I can't remember the other thing you said do have to be done, yes, but AGM work has always been more long-term, more visionary towards the future and that does mean that these projects take time, can hit all sorts of systematical obstacles that means they're delayed etc so there are two options:

a) Retreat your ideas to the background, safe from criticism, but you yourself receiving plenty
b) Lead from the front, say what you're doing, why it's not going so well atm (if applicable), these are the ideas I'm working on, look I am doing something. Saying "admin work" - which is essentially what it is - as an explanation for what you're doing when admin work should just be 5-10% of your daily workload is not going to inspire much confidence with the community. Ideas still being clutched tightly to your chest and then 6 months later still no sign of anything new does mean that people will start to wonder what the hell you've been doing for the past 6 months (you can count the number of things the community has seen from you since March on one hand).

Maybe then you'll be surprised how much things will improve for you, criticism-wise. It'll certainly be better than the aggressive approach where people just naturally get defensive and give it back.

[dbgtz]

A task that literally takes seconds is not worth adding. Especially if you're trying to act as if it's time consuming.



I must do.

It took me 15 minutes to look through the 7 pages, note down every charity find out if they're registered and get a description..

Ataxia - Registered (1102391) - ATAXIA UK SUPPORTS PEOPLE AFFECTED BY FRIEDREICH'S ATAXIA AND CEREBELLAR ATAXIAS BY FUNDING MEDICAL AND OTHER RESEARCH, PILOTING NEW SERVICE DELIVERY MODELS, AND DISSEMINATING RESULTS; PROVIDING INFORMATION TO PEOPLE WITH ATAXIA, MEDICAL, AND SOCIAL CARE PROFESSIONALS; DISTRIBUTION OF WELFARE GRANTS; CAMPAIGNING FOR IMPROVEMENT IN TREATMENT AND SERVICES; FACILITATING SELF-HELP GROUPS.


AgeUK - Registered (1128267) - AGE UK AIMS TO CREATE A WORLD WHERE OLDER PEOPLE CAN LIVE THEIR LIVES FREE FROM POVERTY, ISOLATION AND NEGLECT. IT RAISES AWARENESS OF ISSUES AFFECTING OLDER PEOPLE IN THE UK AND OVERSEAS, RESEARCHES AND CAMPAIGNS FOR CHANGES IN POLICY AND PRACTICE, AND OFFERS PRACTICAL SUPPORT TO DISADVANTAGED OLDER PEOPLE. IT IS FUNDED BY INDIVIDUALS, COMPANIES AND TRUSTS.


Dogs Trust - Registered (227523) - DOGS TRUST OPERATES A NETWORK OF 17 REHOMING CENTRES ACROSS THE UK. EACH CENTRE PROVIDES DOG ACCOMODATION, PUPPY HOUSES, ISOLATION BLOCKS AND TREATMENT ROOMS. DOGS TRUST PROVIDES FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE TO ALLOW OWNERS IN GENUINE NEED TO HAVE THEIR DOGS NEUTERED THROUGH PARTICIPATING VETERINARY PRACTICES. DOGS TRUST PROVIDES EDUCATIONAL MATERIAL ON RESPONSIBLE DOG OWNERSHIP FOR ALL AGES.


RSPCA - Registered (219099) - TO PREVENT CRUELTY, PROMOTE KINDNESS AND TO ALLEVIATE SUFFERING OF ANIMALS.


Shelterbox - Registered (1096479) - SHELTERBOX PROVIDES EMERGENCY SHELTER AND VITAL SUPPLIES TO SUPPORT COMMUNITIES AROUND THE WORLD OVERWHELMED BY DISASTER AND HUMANITARIAN CRISES.


Doctors Without Borders - Not UK Registered


Scouts UK - Registered (306101) - SCOUTING ACTIVELY ENGAGES AND SUPPORTS YOUNG PEOPLE IN THEIR PERSONAL DEVELOPMENT, EMPOWERING THEM TO MAKE A POSITIVE CONTRIBUTION TO SOCIETY.


ALS - Not UK Registered


Cancer Research - Registered (1089464) - TO PROTECT AND PROMOTE THE HEALTH OF THE PUBLIC IN PARTICULAR BY RESEARCH INTO THE NATURE, CAUSES, DIAGNOSIS, PREVENTION, TREATMENT AND CURE OF ALL FORMS OF CANCER, INCLUDING THE DEVELOPMENT OF RESEARCH INTO PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS FOR THE PREVENTION, TREATMENT AND CURE OF CANCER AND TO PROVIDE INFORMATION AND RAISE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDING OF SUCH MATTERS.


Alzheimers society - Registered (296645) - ALZHEIMER'S SOCIETY STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS PROVIDE SERVICES TO PEOPLE AFFECTED BY DEMENTIA, INCLUDING DAY CARE AND HOME CARE, SUPPORT AND BEFRIENDING SERVICES ACROSS ENGLAND, WALES AND NORTHERN IRELAND. WE PROVIDE INFORMATION AND TRAINING, AND EVERY YEAR WE INVEST IN RESEARCH. WE CAMPAIGN FOR THE RIGHTS OF PEOPLE WITH DEMENTIA AND THOSE WHO CARE FOR THEM.


UK Sands - Registered (299679) - SANDS OFFERS SUPPORT TO PARENTS AND FAMILIES WHOSE BABY HAS DIED, PROVIDING A WIDE RANGE OF SERVICES WHICH INCLUDE A NATIONAL HELPLINE AND A UK-WIDE NETWORK OF VOLUNTARY GROUPS RUN BY AND FOR BEREAVED PARENTS. SANDS ALSO WORKS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH HEALTH PROFESSIONALS TO ENSURE THAT BEREAVED PARENTS RECEIVE THE BEST POSSIBLE CARE AND PROMOTES RESEARCH TO REDUCE THE LOSS OF BABIES' LIVES.


Epilepsy Action - Registered (234343) - EXISTS TO IMPROVE THE LIVES OF PEOPLE AFFECTED BY EPILEPSY.


Blind children UK - Registered (1051607) - SUPPORT OF VISUALLY IMPAIRED CHILDREN, THEIR FAMILIES & HELPERS BY PROVIDING THE 5 KEY SERVICES OF FAMILY SUPPORT, EDUCATIONAL ADVOCACY, I/T SUPPORT & EQUIPMENT, HOLIDAYS & ACTIVITIES & LARGE PRINT BOOKS.


RNLI - Registered (209603) - TO SAVE LIVES, PROMOTE SAFETY AND RESCUE SERVICE EFFICIENCY, AND PROVIDE RELIEF FROM DISASTER AT SEA AND ON INLAND AND FLOOD WATERS; TO ADVANCE THE EDUCATION OF THE PUBLIC IN MATTERS RELATING TO SEA, INLAND AND FLOOD WATER SAFETY, AND IN THE HISTORY AND HERITAGE OF THE INSTITUTION; TO RELIEVE/ASSIST THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN SAVING LIVES AT SEA AND ON INLAND AND FLOOD WATERS IN ANY CAPACITY.


Russ Foundation - Registered (1076436) - TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR EDUCATION, FOOD AND SHELTER FOR ORPHANS OR CHILDREN OF DESTITUTE FAMILES IN SOUTH INDIA.


Childs Play Charity - Not UK Registered


Parkinsons UK - Registered (258197) - PARKINSON'S UK IS THE PARKINSON'S SUPPORT AND RESEARCH CHARITY. THEY ARE LEADING THE WORK TO FIND A CURE AND IMPROVE LIFE FOR EVERYONE AFFECTED BY PARKINSON'S. THE CHARITY BRINGS PEOPLE WITH PARKINSON'S, THEIR CARERS AND FAMILIES TOGETHER AND PROVIDES THEM WITH INFORMATION, FRIENDSHIP AND SUPPORT. IT CAMPAIGNS TO CHANGE ATTITUDES AND DEMAND BETTER SERVICES. ITS WORK IS DEPENDENT ON DONATIONS.


Crohn's and Colitis UK - Registered (1117148) - PROVIDING SUPPORT & INFORMATION FOR PATIENTS & THEIR FAMILIES WHO ARE AFFECTED BY INFLAMMATORY BOWEL DISEASES (IBD) RAISING PUBLIC & POLITICAL AWARENESS OF IBD STRIVING TO IMPROVE HEALTHCARE SERVICES & PROVISION FOR IBD INFLUENCING THE ATTITUDES OF SOCIETY TO ACHIEVE POSITIVE CHANGE FOR THOSE AFFECTED BY IBD PROMOTING RESEARCH INTO ALL ASPECTS OF IBD & HOW THEY AFFECT PEOPLE'S LIVES MIND


Yorkhill Childrens Charity - Scottish Registered


MediCinema - Registered (1058197) - THE INSTALLATION AND OPERATION OF STATE OF THE ART CINEMAS IN HOSPITALS AND ANNUAL FILM SCREENING PROGRAMME FOR PATIENTS OF ALL AGES (INCLUDING THOSE IN BEDS & WHEELCHAIRS) THEIR FAMILIES AND CARERS. ADMISSION FREE OF CHARGE.


Kidney Kids Scotland - Scottish Registered


Rainbow Trust - Registered (1070532) - RAINBOW TRUST CHILDREN'S CHARITY PROVIDES EMOTIONAL AND PRACTICAL SUPPORT TO FAMILIES WHO HAVE A CHILD WITH A LIFE THREATENING OR TERMINAL ILLNESS.


Clic Sargent - Registered (1107328) - CLIC SARGENT IS THERE FOR CHILDREN AND YOUNG PEOPLE WITH CANCER. WE ARE THERE FOR THEIR FAMILIES TOO, RESPONDING TO THEIR INDIVIDUAL NEEDS AND CARING THROUGH TREATMENT AND BEYOND.


Formatting will be ****, but the point stands. It's not time consuming. I started that about a minute after I posted my previous reply btw.

MSF (Doctors Without Borders) is UK registered...
http://www.msf.org.uk/

[Chris]

I think Sam's point was member interaction is something that should be constantly done rather than as an afterthought. A lot of this thread - and the many more before it - is down to communication and Matt was not immune to criticism either (the difference being you actually reply even if it is with a slightly aggressive attitude whereas he'd leave it to his AGMs to defend general management so you are an improvement in that regard at least). In fact, the whole action plan thread was made precisely because of the lack of action, lack of ideas, lack of communication. Would there be a request for an action plan if the community could already see it for themselves? Perms, planning and I can't remember the other thing you said do have to be done, yes, but AGM work has always been more long-term, more visionary towards the future and that does mean that these projects take time, can hit all sorts of systematical obstacles that means they're delayed etc so there are two options:

a) Retreat your ideas to the background, safe from criticism, but you yourself receiving plenty
b) Lead from the front, say what you're doing, why it's not going so well atm (if applicable), these are the ideas I'm working on, look I am doing something. Saying "admin work" - which is essentially what it is - as an explanation for what you're doing when admin work should just be 5-10% of your daily workload is not going to inspire much confidence with the community. Ideas still being clutched tightly to your chest and then 6 months later still no sign of anything new does mean that people will start to wonder what the hell you've been doing for the past 6 months (you can count the number of things the community has seen from you since March on one hand).

Maybe then you'll be surprised how much things will improve for you, criticism-wise. It'll certainly be better than the aggressive approach where people just naturally get defensive and give it back.

I understand what you're saying and I've said a couple of times now that I do want us to be more open with our plans when we have them. What I want to know is what you all mean when you say member interaction. Do you mean me sitting on Habbo in the help desk or do you mean having my own projects? Or maybe you mean both?

[Inseriousity.]

Member interaction is communication so both. Short-term, just having a presence on Habbo, around the forum, showing your face and letting them see you get involved would provide a major boost. Long term, working on projects but communicating with members about where these projects are in progress and if there are delays or obstacles that management are struggling to resolve, an explanation to the community about what that is and if they have any ideas to get around it. Basically, if you have nothing to show yet but hide away, people are seeing nothing. If you're working on something, got nothing to show for it yet for whatever reason but are upfront about it, people are seeing effort and as a community, there's an opportunity there to get what might be a great idea - that would otherwise fade away - actually become a reality. Interacting with the community more will give the community more confidence in you, the community having confidence that you can be a driving force and a leader. That in turn gives yourself more confidence to be bolder. It's just a self-fulfiling prophecy in the end.

If you want an example of this in action, see this thread (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=801427&highlight=achievements) where there was feedback but largely positive as they saw effort, they saw the attempt and were impressed. Then here (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=811220&highlight=achievements) where nothing was heard about it for a few months. People got more critical, less positive but maybe if they were kept informed of what was going on with it and why, they'd be less hostile.