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Danny
29-11-2014, 11:02 PM
Hello, it's been a while since one of these were posted for HabboxLive and I feel one is needed to try and touch on some points that i've noticed.

I know people at HabboxLive aren't thrilled i'm posting this, but it's not actually trying to be negative at all.

Lets be honest, the amount of staff HabboxLive has now is pretty low right now. I understand the Management are trying to recruit and seem to be getting trialists, but there's never such a thing as too many. But the trouble is with the current staff. Who are they? Recently, i've noticed HabboxLive Staff don't interact on Habbo and this could be one of the problems with getting listeners, infact i've seen people comment a few times about DJ's not telling people they are on air. Lets face it, certain listeners like certain DJ's only, so when they see they are not on air they don't tune in.

When I first started as a DJ a didn't get many listeners and yeah it was disheartening at first, but around the time of HxSS my listeners grew and even remained at a high peak of listeners after the event had ended, so it is possible to get people to tune in.

This was said when I was a still a DJ and not even by me, but if you have the same DJ's on air alot of the time[No, this is not a dig at anyone], the radio does start to go stale. Different DJ's play different music which people like, they don't want to listen to the same old stuff all the time, so switch it up a little. This will sound a little strange after what I just said, but perhaps raise the minimums from two slots a week. HabboxLive is pretty much one of the easiest departments in which to meet minimums and if people want to DJ, they should want to DJ as often as they can, between the DJ's you have even now, you can still have a good mix until more DJ's are recruited. That would encourage everyone to DJ more, not just a couple.

Looking at Sunday's timetable, I see 6 out of 24 slots currently booked, and throughout the week [If the Timetable shows the days for next week] there are alot of slots not booked. Even when I was a DJ in August/September, there were more slots booked up.

I enjoyed doing my Weekly shows and people liked listening, they also liked listening to the other weekly shows that were on air, so perhaps try and get some more going if possible. Try something fun, make people WANT to tune into you! And requests, try get more of those and be willing to download them if you haven't got them. I didn't get many requests to begin with, but I played with different types of musics from different eras and people got into it and they started asking me if I had this song or that song and I found their requests asap. I ENJOYED doing my shows because people were responding in a positive way, but for them to interact you really do need to be on Habbo. I think Senior+ should be on Habbo more aswell to set the example, I see about four people come on and they have other commitments that require them to be on Habbo anyways.


I hope this doesn't sound TOO negative because that's not what I wanted.

sexpot
29-11-2014, 11:08 PM
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Empired
29-11-2014, 11:14 PM
Weekly shows are a big yes for me. Actually just having weekly shows isn't enough. I'm looking on the HabboxLive site now (first time in bloody ages) and I've never heard of any of these shows. ADVERTISE YOUR SHOWS, DJS. Use the spam thread, pop the image with a link to HabboxLive in your signature, come on Habbo 10 - 30 minutes before and tell everyone to tune in EVERY WEEK.

Other main problem I see is advertising on client. HabboxLive is a radio for a Habbo fansite. DJs need to have more of a presence on the hotel. Gather a load of your friends together, get them all to tune in and then go and chill in a random popular room somewhere else. Be friendly and try to encourage people in that room to tune in and listen too.

I didn't explain these at all well and I have other points but I'm too tired to make them now and I can see I'm not making much sense. I'd like to reply again tomorrow in more detail and perhaps talk to Izzy privately as well about some suggestions.

Samantha
29-11-2014, 11:27 PM
The minimum was reduced when I was AGM because there were so many staff it was impossible for every DJ to do 3 slots, nowadays they could do 3 slots with ease and still have room to spare!

As it was mentioned, DJ's presence on Habbo is a must and looking at the members of staff currently some of them are definitely not doing that. I haven't heard of many of the DJs and I decided to look when some of them last logged on Habbo and some of them haven't logged in for 24 days? I don't really see how that's acceptable when HabboxLive is one of the biggest departments where you should be on Habbo. I'd love to see DJs going in events, advertising like mad and making those listeners grow. I saw UnDead do that today and it got me tuned in likewise with a few others!

IzzyUhh
30-11-2014, 01:27 AM
Hiya I'm gonna quickly reply to this before I go bed and I'll respond in more detail tomorrow x

Firstly thank you for the feedback Debs, it's a well needed one especially due to not having once whilst I've been manager.

DJs activity is something that's always been struggled with, but obviously it's something I'm working on atm!

The minimum raising is something I've thought about for a while and has been suggested to me also, this week has honestly been a shock as the timetable was so full last week!

Weekly shows is something that has become an interest in this month and it's gonna improve hopefully

Any questions I'll be happy to answer but when I'm awake in the morning as I'm sure what I said above didn't make sense :'(

Rachel
30-11-2014, 02:51 AM
I agree that for the past month it has dropped. Also the amount of djs has dropped as well which affects HabboxLive. When I go on air which sometimes can be only 2 slots (minimum) or 5+ slots during the week which is what I can do most every week due to real life situations. I don't feel to elaborate on here if you want to know more just give me a PM :). I do pull my weight for this part at least.

Also going on Habbo while djing is something that we do want the djs to do as it helps getting listeners (new listeners) and promotes the fansite as well. I have been trying to DJ and go on Habbo at same time but seems my connection is not powerful enough to do that sadly. This is a problem on my part obviously which is a shame as I do try everytime but it just buffers my sam when I go on client during being on air :(.

Weekly minimum use to be 3 slots per week I think . I mean 3 slots is not bad really. The DJs knows if they can't DJ that week they can post away and real life comes first. Though what I am saying is obviously 3 slots is nothing I am sure 3 slots will be good. It is up to Izzy to bring up the requirement higher :).

Thanks Debs for the feedback.

Brad
30-11-2014, 03:50 AM
I am reading this on my phone so I can't too specific but I have to agree with the lack of enthusiasm I see from the current DJs. I cringe when I listen to some due to quality reasons and then to top it off. Those who do like 4+ slots in a row do become stale and the listeners dwindle a lot. There should be no ezcuse for time, etc. For listener count because I've had 10+ listeners during 5-6am GMT. I think wht I am directing this at is quality over quantity. I would rather listen to one full well done hour than five satisfactory hours of the same person.

Empired
30-11-2014, 11:16 AM
I am reading this on my phone so I can't too specific but I have to agree with the lack of enthusiasm I see from the current DJs. I cringe when I listen to some due to quality reasons and then to top it off. Those who do like 4+ slots in a row do become stale and the listeners dwindle a lot. There should be no ezcuse for time, etc. For listener count because I've had 10+ listeners during 5-6am GMT. I think wht I am directing this at is quality over quantity. I would rather listen to one full well done hour than five satisfactory hours of the same person.
Whilst I agree here I find that a DJ is more interesting if they are participating in an event whilst DJing.

Doesn't even have to be a Habbox event but if they're playing a game and getting over-competitive on air and making fun (nicely) of some of the listeners then they instantly become more enjoyable to listen to. Might sound obvious but if the DJ is having fun, the listeners will enjoy the show more.
For example @Yuxin (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=63975); was DJing for two hours last night (11pm - 1am, maybe more but I had to go to bed) and we played Isolation at the same time. It meant she was enthusiastic and had something to talk about on air, plus she was making fun of me (:@) and Dolphins and a few others on air (playing @FlyingJesus (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=24753); 's version of Barbara Ann, what a thing to behold) to interact with her audience a bit more.

The problem with brand new DJs (they're always super young) that no one has ever heard of is they have no friends to interact with on air. Or they have a select few friends and completely ignore everyone else tuned in. Being a DJ isn't just playing some songs and occasionally speaking by saying something along the lines of "And coming up next is ummmm welllllll I thought maybe.. no actually I'll put on some jessie j *gigantic pause where we listen to a fuzzy backing track for 90 seconds* wait sorry i don't have that song let's listen to some coldplay", it's about interacting with and catering to your listeners' interests.

Edit: oh sorry I forgot to say why I was half disagreeing with your point. Basically I agree that DJs do sometimes get stale but they can avoid that by interacting with their audience and having as much fun as THEY possibly can.

Danny
30-11-2014, 11:22 AM
To clarify on what Empired just said, Gina Yuxin; had 19 listeners in that time slot. It IS possible. It was the first time I properly listened and I enjoyed it. Again I tuned I'm because I know she is good at what she does and plays music we asked for.

Empired
30-11-2014, 11:38 AM
Hmm yes I always enjoy tuning in to Gina's slots. IzzyUhh; and @whoever else is it possible to have a HabboxLive subscription like Yupt; does a competitions subscription? Basically I receive a VM whenever a writing competition or a competition where you can win VIP is released. Could we do the same with HxL so you can opt in to be notified whenever a DJ of your choice is coming on air/books a slot?

Gina
30-11-2014, 11:40 AM
Whilst I agree here I find that a DJ is more interesting if they are participating in an event whilst DJing.

Doesn't even have to be a Habbox event but if they're playing a game and getting over-competitive on air and making fun (nicely) of some of the listeners then they instantly become more enjoyable to listen to. Might sound obvious but if the DJ is having fun, the listeners will enjoy the show more.
For example @Yuxin (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=63975); was DJing for two hours last night (11pm - 1am, maybe more but I had to go to bed) and we played Isolation at the same time. It meant she was enthusiastic and had something to talk about on air, plus she was making fun of me (:@) and Dolphins and a few others on air (playing @FlyingJesus (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=24753); 's version of Barbara Ann, what a thing to behold) to interact with her audience a bit more.

The problem with brand new DJs (they're always super young) that no one has ever heard of is they have no friends to interact with on air. Or they have a select few friends and completely ignore everyone else tuned in. Being a DJ isn't just playing some songs and occasionally speaking by saying something along the lines of "And coming up next is ummmm welllllll I thought maybe.. no actually I'll put on some jessie j *gigantic pause where we listen to a fuzzy backing track for 90 seconds* wait sorry i don't have that song let's listen to some coldplay", it's about interacting with and catering to your listeners' interests.

Edit: oh sorry I forgot to say why I was half disagreeing with your point. Basically I agree that DJs do sometimes get stale but they can avoid that by interacting with their audience and having as much fun as THEY possibly can.

lmao sorry tom! she asked for the beach boys but i only had ur version but was so great that i had to play it x
i think last night i prob annoyed everyone though oooops haha however i had fun
was impressed with listeners though didnt do any comps or anything and still had 20 woo

def think more weeklys are needed though
give listeners something to tune into and be excited for
like snq everyone knows about and goes to hxhd for and has fun and its like a routine for them

1 thing that bugs me tho is when djs think the listeners will appear from no where
like mentioned above they need to advertise ahh even if its just going into welcome lounge nad loads of room, filling up their friendslist and then spamming them to tune into hxl because im sure some people would tune in at least
or just saying in hxhd to tune in or a spam thread
anythinggg uno otherwise people wont know to tune in
especially with the radio offline quite a lot now im sure they dont enjoy tuning into no dj so having an invite to say that its online is prob a great start

as for the minimum when i was head dj and james was manager along with the other heads at the time we decided to move the minimum down to 2
at the time we also had about 60 djs and it was proving impossible for people to even reach it hence why
with staff numbers like halfed i think a minimum of 3 would be easy to meet
if you look at the leaderboard just see how many people hit 3+ or even 2+ so theyre scraping the minimum
with there being so many empty slots i think that would def be good to bring it back up to 3 n hopefully thatd help like how long people are stuck on air for also with more people willing to step in espec so theyre able to reach their mins

i think a lot of djs are free but just cba to reach past mins lol last night i picked up the radio from it being disconnected but had djs in the skype chat sayign about how theyre in a skype call
unless they didnt have sam im sure most of them would be able to dj as theyre lit speaking in a call however the radio was put off and they chose not to

prebooking is also a definite issue and i think you need to be harsher when it comes to it
when i was a regular/senior i hardly ever prebooked slots but i never received pms for it like even if they are a head or a senior they still need a pm with a caution lmao
6 slots are currently prebooked and its between 2 djs
its a sunday and you have what like 20-30 staff still lol they should all have 2 prebooked slots by tomorrow 8pm
but i think most cba because you can easily get away with it
you can get more slots booked and done with them being prebooked
also due to all the gaps they prob dont feel a need to prebook because i certainly dont however when people do prebook it should encourage others with more being taken

Inseriousity.
30-11-2014, 11:42 AM
Not sure how feasible that would be given the practicalities of HxL (it seems most DJs seem to jump on when they need to rather than book too far in advance). Personally, I actually think this is a more general problem of lack of Habbo presence and there needs to be a more co-ordinated effort between the community departments to get out there and sell themselves.

IzzyUhh
30-11-2014, 11:42 AM
Hmm yes I always enjoy tuning in to Gina's slots. IzzyUhh; and @whoever else is it possible to have a HabboxLive subscription like Yupt; does a competitions subscription? Basically I receive a VM whenever a writing competition or a competition where you can win VIP is released. Could we do the same with HxL so you can opt in to be notified whenever a DJ of your choice is coming on air/books a slot?
It's a good idea but it would be questioned due to DJs unbooking slots, and not being able to do that slot nearer the time

Gina
30-11-2014, 11:44 AM
It's a good idea but it would be questioned due to DJs unbooking slots, and not being able to do that slot nearer the time just get the dj to do it to however the listeners because im assuming that dj would know lol then would bring up their forum activity aswell
depends rly on if anyone else would want the vm though haha

MKR&*42
30-11-2014, 11:47 AM
Out of plain curiosity, I just went through all Head, Senior + Normal (not guest) djs to find out their last Habbo login date. I would understand if someone hasn't logged in for a few days, but some of these people are just...

Head DJs
Jess / Jssy - 5 days ago
Kimmy / Ripieno - 14 hours ago
Kitty / XxZammyXx - 9 hours ago
Woody / WoodyLFC.2k7 - 14 days ago

Senior
Bethy / KrazyBethw - 16 hours ago
Collegno / Collegno - 20 hours ago

All other staff except guests
Katarune / dealerboy-1 - 24 days ago
Rachel / Rachel_137 - 38 days ago
River / Scumper - 47 days ago
Tay / .:TaylorSwift: - 6 hours ago
Undead / UndeadDevilHD - 16 hours ago
Wubing / Wubing - 16 hours ago
Tashy / DjTashyBackUp - 4 days ago
Callum / cal296 - 60 hours ago
Firefox / Ailurus - 16 hours ago
Hurricane / Shockwave.2CC - 9 hours ago
Power / Chloe7355 - 62 hours ago
Aroonie / arunan29 - 15 hours ago
Jordan / KeillerIsBanned - appearing offline, but ik he comes on a lot
Small / Josh0202 - 8 days ago (i know he isn't away either as he was just DJing)
Woodsy / lesbon - 77 minutes ago


It might seem like I'm attacking certain people, but it is absolutely unacceptable to be a staff member for a HABBO fansite and have not logged into HABBo for over a month and a half.......... Woody is the only one in red who can be excused if he is posted away ( i obviously don't know) because you are only allowed three weeks maximum to be off.

If you add together every one of those and get an average (rounded lesbon's down to an hour and converted days into hours + didn't count keiller) dj last login of; 181 hours ago OR about just over a week ago. Obviously the people who haven't logged in for excess of 20 days are going to throw the average way off, but it just shows you how bad the situation is...

Gina
30-11-2014, 11:50 AM
om at how short that list is now ahhh used to be so long
icrieveritym

Empired
30-11-2014, 12:00 PM
Not sure how feasible that would be given the practicalities of HxL (it seems most DJs seem to jump on when they need to rather than book too far in advance). Personally, I actually think this is a more general problem of lack of Habbo presence and there needs to be a more co-ordinated effort between the community departments to get out there and sell themselves.


It's a good idea but it would be questioned due to DJs unbooking slots, and not being able to do that slot nearer the time

I realised this soon after posting. Instead could we subscribe to weekly shows? May not be useful to other people but I will need reminding if I want to tune in for a weekly show. I KNOW it's weekly so it's easy to remember but honestly I only think about HxL once a month or something so I just wouldn't remember.

IzzyUhh
30-11-2014, 12:03 PM
I realised this soon after posting. Instead could we subscribe to weekly shows? May not be useful to other people but I will need reminding if I want to tune in for a weekly show. I KNOW it's weekly so it's easy to remember but honestly I only think about HxL once a month or something so I just wouldn't remember.
Weekly shows is defo something it would be good for, perhaps a poll could be done to see who would suscribe to it

Hayden I'm aware and as said doing stuff about it in the upcoming month, it's a huge shame to see how low the activitt is

Danny
30-11-2014, 12:04 PM
I think a minimum should be added where Dj's come online, although i'm not sure how you would moderate that. They could just come online then log off again, so something needs to be added to prevent that, i'll throw this out there for people who have better ideas than myself to think of.

Empired
30-11-2014, 12:05 PM
Weekly shows is defo something it would be good for, perhaps a poll could be done to see who would suscribe to it
even if one person voted yes (ME) that would be one more person than you would otherwise be getting

worth it even if only a few people agree imo

IzzyUhh
30-11-2014, 12:07 PM
even if one person voted yes (ME) that would be one more person than you would otherwise be getting

worth it even if only a few people agree imo
Yeah but it'd also be interesting to see who else would be interested :)

Empired
30-11-2014, 12:09 PM
Yeah but it'd also be interesting to see who else would be interested :)
Yh ok but opening another feedback for your department is extremely risky we know what people can be like here. but on your own head be it xoxoxox

Brad
30-11-2014, 12:41 PM
Whilst I agree here I find that a DJ is more interesting if they are participating in an event whilst DJing.

Doesn't even have to be a Habbox event but if they're playing a game and getting over-competitive on air and making fun (nicely) of some of the listeners then they instantly become more enjoyable to listen to. Might sound obvious but if the DJ is having fun, the listeners will enjoy the show more.
For example @Yuxin (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=63975); was DJing for two hours last night (11pm - 1am, maybe more but I had to go to bed) and we played Isolation at the same time. It meant she was enthusiastic and had something to talk about on air, plus she was making fun of me (:@) and Dolphins and a few others on air (playing @FlyingJesus (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=24753); 's version of Barbara Ann, what a thing to behold) to interact with her audience a bit more.

The problem with brand new DJs (they're always super young) that no one has ever heard of is they have no friends to interact with on air. Or they have a select few friends and completely ignore everyone else tuned in. Being a DJ isn't just playing some songs and occasionally speaking by saying something along the lines of "And coming up next is ummmm welllllll I thought maybe.. no actually I'll put on some jessie j *gigantic pause where we listen to a fuzzy backing track for 90 seconds* wait sorry i don't have that song let's listen to some coldplay", it's about interacting with and catering to your listeners' interests.

Edit: oh sorry I forgot to say why I was half disagreeing with your point. Basically I agree that DJs do sometimes get stale but they can avoid that by interacting with their audience and having as much fun as THEY possibly can.


To clarify on what Empired just said, Gina Yuxin; had 19 listeners in that time slot. It IS possible. It was the first time I properly listened and I enjoyed it. Again I tuned I'm because I know she is good at what she does and plays music we asked for.

I actually feel Gina and a few others are the only ones that actually take those precious opportunities to connect with the listeners.
I'm not really saying that all slots done that are more than a hour long is the same. It definitely varies throughout the DJ. And as you have stated; the newer DJs are young, they don't know a lot of us listening... But should they not, as a community based position, be trying to interact with those listening. And with the time slot vs the amount of listeners; 11-1 GMT is 6-8pm EST so the listener focus becomes those who international.
Is it maybe that we are lacking the involvement on our international side? The amount of international DJs have dropped... Are we just not taking the effort anymore to reach other during the international hours of the Habbo(x)?
(Again, this isn't to attack anyone.. I'm just pointing out things I see..)

Sho
30-11-2014, 12:42 PM
I think it'd be nice to have people subscribe to a weekly show, although I do think that it'd be way too fidgety to allow people subscribe to individual DJs as people will need to be re-notified when they switch slots or unbook it. Any DJ is welcome to advertise their show beforehand though.

Empired
30-11-2014, 12:46 PM
I actually feel Gina and a few others are the only ones that actually take those precious opportunities to connect with the listeners.
I'm not really saying that all slots done that are more than a hour long is the same. It definitely varies throughout the DJ. And as you have stated; the newer DJs are young, they don't know a lot of us listening... But should they not, as a community based position, be trying to interact with those listening. And with the time slot vs the amount of listeners; 11-1 GMT is 6-8pm EST so the listener focus becomes those who international.
Is it maybe that we are lacking the involvement on our international side? The amount of international DJs have dropped... Are we just not taking the effort anymore to reach other during the international hours of the Habbo(x)?
(Again, this isn't to attack anyone.. I'm just pointing out things I see..)
I completely agree. Plus I think it would be nice to hear a DJ I've never heard before trying to interact with the community and get to know people better. I think the problem with REALLY young DJs is that I have nothing in common with them anymore and their interests are completely different to mine so I never find the content (if there actually is any content) in their shows interesting. Not to mention most young people (say 12 - 14) aren't interested in the type of music I like.


I think it'd be nice to have people subscribe to a weekly show, although I do think that it'd be way too fidgety to allow people subscribe to individual DJs as people will need to be re-notified when they switch slots or unbook it. Any DJ is welcome to advertise their show beforehand though.
Yeah no that was just the beginnings of an idea. I wouldn't actually be interested in subscriptions for every single show but I didn't word my idea properly/hadn't thought it through yet the first time.

Brad
30-11-2014, 12:49 PM
I think it'd be nice to have people subscribe to a weekly show, although I do think that it'd be way too fidgety to allow people subscribe to individual DJs as people will need to be re-notified when they switch slots or unbook it. Any DJ is welcome to advertise their show beforehand though.

To go along with this as well. We do have the CNB which comes in handy for just about anything that is happening.
A suggestion to DJs is maybe to post the winners of competitions during the past hour, maybe a screen shot in the CNB post as well, to bring more of an incentive to those browsing the forum to check out the radio too

Empired
30-11-2014, 12:51 PM
To go along with this as well. We do have the CNB which comes in handy for just about anything that is happening.
A suggestion to DJs is maybe to post the winners of competitions during the past hour, maybe a screen shot in the CNB post as well, to bring more of an incentive to those browsing the forum to check out the radio too
Yes plz. Screenshot only if there's something worth looking at though. Would be embarrassing to see a screenshot of a DJ sat alone in HxHD for an hour.

Brad
30-11-2014, 12:55 PM
I completely agree. Plus I think it would be nice to hear a DJ I've never heard before trying to interact with the community and get to know people better. I think the problem with REALLY young DJs is that I have nothing in common with them anymore and their interests are completely different to mine so I never find the content (if there actually is any content) in their shows interesting. Not to mention most young people (say 12 - 14) aren't interested in the type of music I like.
Agreed. Being from the 22+ age bracket on the forum, connecting with those who are 12-14 makes it difficult because we are intimidating to those in that age bracket.
It should be the fact that they're not into your music. As a DJ (a real one) they wouldn't say to a person who was at a wedding or something that their song choice is something they're not into, and then proceed to play a song cateered to the DJ... (If that makes any sense)

Sho
30-11-2014, 12:58 PM
Yeah no that was just the beginnings of an idea. I wouldn't actually be interested in subscriptions for every single show but I didn't word my idea properly/hadn't thought it through yet the first time.

Yeah monthlies would be best I think and possibly events like win a room and bigger competitions too.

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To go along with this as well. We do have the CNB which comes in handy for just about anything that is happening.
A suggestion to DJs is maybe to post the winners of competitions during the past hour, maybe a screen shot in the CNB post as well, to bring more of an incentive to those browsing the forum to check out the radio too

This is similar to an Events Roundup that Martin/Alex did when I was a senior EO and quite a few people liked to see who had won what and all that, so yes I'm all for this.

Brad
30-11-2014, 01:01 PM
Yeah monthlies would be best I think and possibly events like win a room and bigger competitions too.

With Monthlies the DJs are expect to be at their slot that they've chosen for that. Make it more fancy, and publicize it more. It would bring more incentive to tune in when the reputation of quantity is there... But I like where this feedback is going... IzzyUhh; I hope you are making notes... There are some good ideas arising from this.

IzzyUhh
30-11-2014, 01:06 PM
With Monthlies the DJs are expect to be at their slot that they've chosen for that. Make it more fancy, and publicize it more. It would bring more incentive to tune in when the reputation of quantity is there... But I like where this feedback is going... IzzyUhh; I hope you are making notes... There are some good ideas arising from this.
Will be when I'm home [emoji4]

Gina
30-11-2014, 01:11 PM
Agreed. Being from the 22+ age bracket on the forum, connecting with those who are 12-14 makes it difficult because we are intimidating to those in that age bracket.
It should be the fact that they're not into your music. As a DJ (a real one) they wouldn't say to a person who was at a wedding or something that their song choice is something they're not into, and then proceed to play a song cateered to the DJ... (If that makes any sense) excuse you am 15 ;l i started off young what u guys tryna say
i think its more like new djs lmao its difficult to interact when you dont know anything n dont know what people like etc you dont really know who ur even djing too let alone trying to interact with them all

Samantha
30-11-2014, 01:17 PM
Out of plain curiosity, I just went through all Head, Senior + Normal (not guest) djs to find out their last Habbo login date. I would understand if someone hasn't logged in for a few days, but some of these people are just...

Head DJs
Jess / Jssy - 5 days ago
Kimmy / Ripieno - 14 hours ago
Kitty / XxZammyXx - 9 hours ago
Woody / WoodyLFC.2k7 - 14 days ago

Senior
Bethy / KrazyBethw - 16 hours ago
Collegno / Collegno - 20 hours ago

All other staff except guests
Katarune / dealerboy-1 - 24 days ago
Rachel / Rachel_137 - 38 days ago
River / Scumper - 47 days ago
Tay / .:TaylorSwift: - 6 hours ago
Undead / UndeadDevilHD - 16 hours ago
Wubing / Wubing - 16 hours ago
Tashy / DjTashyBackUp - 4 days ago
Callum / cal296 - 60 hours ago
Firefox / Ailurus - 16 hours ago
Hurricane / Shockwave.2CC - 9 hours ago
Power / Chloe7355 - 62 hours ago
Aroonie / arunan29 - 15 hours ago
Jordan / KeillerIsBanned - appearing offline, but ik he comes on a lot
Small / Josh0202 - 8 days ago (i know he isn't away either as he was just DJing)
Woodsy / lesbon - 77 minutes ago


It might seem like I'm attacking certain people, but it is absolutely unacceptable to be a staff member for a HABBO fansite and have not logged into HABBo for over a month and a half.......... Woody is the only one in red who can be excused if he is posted away ( i obviously don't know) because you are only allowed three weeks maximum to be off.

If you add together every one of those and get an average (rounded lesbon's down to an hour and converted days into hours + didn't count keiller) dj last login of; 181 hours ago OR about just over a week ago. Obviously the people who haven't logged in for excess of 20 days are going to throw the average way off, but it just shows you how bad the situation is...

Just so you know all the names were PMed to Izzy last night as I got told that we shouldn't be mentioning them in here :P. Luckily though Izzy is sorting out activity already, which may have slacked a little. It's good to see someone has similar ideas.

MKR&*42
30-11-2014, 01:19 PM
Oh well. Can't hinder to mention them in here and it really should have been noticed sooner :P

P.s. whoever deals with it, on the habboxlive.com staff page, the reason Bethy's avatar doesn't display is because the imager is trying to grab the Habbo name KrazyBethyW when her name is KrazyBethW

Brad
30-11-2014, 01:39 PM
excuse you am 15 ;l i started off young what u guys tryna say
i think its more like new djs lmao its difficult to interact when you dont know anything n dont know what people like etc you dont really know who ur even djing too let alone trying to interact with them all

Gina, you're really the only exception to that statistic for the reason that you've given.

Kyle
30-11-2014, 01:57 PM
the age of "hey guys get your friends to tune in" is long gone. promotion of shows is firmly on the shoulders of the radio staff because the scope for word of mouth is simply far too small. reliance for increased listener count is on a select few charismatic djs and others seem to have no reason to want to pull their weight or engage with others.

i and others have pushed for more weekly shows in the past and because i don't listen to the radio at the moment i had wondered what kind of listener numbers they get in comparison to the average show and what the general consensus on them is. I can't imagine that a top 10 chart show and a regular show differ very vastly but those with more original aspects may well do. anybody listen or host and have any solid stats on this?

the debate on age is an old one by name and by nature. older djs statistically may be 'better' than younger ones (usually coming from experience) but this doesn't rule out potential in young blood. trouble with this is with age comes arrogance and once these older djs get to senior positions they are expecting too much and giving too little. new djs require guidance, something that I know gina in particular (one of the youngest djs) strove for during her stint as senior, head and (assistant) manager.

these are small scale issues in a much wider scale problem, though. looking at those staff numbers along with stats from every other department at habbox there is a complication that has become crystal clear: the in client presence of habbox is all but dead. people log on to visit a small number of rooms, talk to the same circle of people and don't know how to push the name out there. it's worrying and it isn't showing any signs of improvement.

lRhyss
30-11-2014, 02:33 PM
To the people that are saying they'd like a subscription to show when their fave DJs are on air...

http://habboxlive.com/#/timetable

you're welcome

Gina
30-11-2014, 02:36 PM
To the people that are saying they'd like a subscription to show when their fave DJs are on air...

http://habboxlive.com/#/timetable

you're welcome
with only 6 slots prebooked including today that prob isnt v helpful and only 2 diff djs
was fab a few months ago when it was impossible to even get a lot however majority arent even booked :P

Richie
30-11-2014, 02:43 PM
I guess you're right about presenters not advertising very well, the only people I've actually seen anyone mentioning habboxlive is one or two staff members in the helpdesk, @Absently (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=50287); is always chatting about dancing with her dog whilst listening to habboxlive. I think advertising in official habbox rooms might be a little pointless at times, the majority who use those rooms already know about the radio and would tune in if they really wanted to.

I'm not sure what habbos policy on advertising official fansites in public rooms is but if it's allowed, those rooms should be targeted. I understand that might be difficult if no-one is showing up to a room when you advertise, so you're just standing there like an ejit on your own, heres the plan lads;

Habbox as a whole should plan a day where everyone gets together on the client as part of a 'habbox advertising campaign' for a couple of hours to help gain listeners for the radio. Think about it logically, even though you're only improving one department temporarily, the others will follow; if the radio is popular, the events, the forum and the helpdesk will also follow with victory through radio advertising. If the radio does get popular during one night, always have something massive planned for the next, it'll get those same viewers to tune back in. If there's not constant future plans, there's no point in ever trying to do competitions to gain listeners as they aren't going to stick around. 2 people aren't going to be able to convince people to tune into the radio but 102 will, even without speaking, if people see 100 people dressed in similar clothes, it'll get them interested in what the hell is going on. What's the point of sending in a request / shoutout if you know no-one is going to hear you, people will actually send in requests and stay interested if there's more listeners. Would you tune into your local radio / stay interested if you knew there was 5 people tuned in, i know i wouldn't, it's a bit boring if you know there isn't a mass audience, it makes it all a bit pointless.


@Wispur (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=55895); jump on my victorious plan, quick quick!​

lRhyss
30-11-2014, 02:43 PM
with only 6 slots prebooked including today that prob isnt v helpful and only 2 diff djs
was fab a few months ago when it was impossible to even get a lot however majority arent even booked :P
Yeah but the subscription service would go off the timetable, so either way it's down to all these DJs not booking slots in advance.

FlyingJesus
30-11-2014, 02:49 PM
Aside from getting people to actually go on air (incredible how empty the slots are compared to just a few months ago where people were fighting for airtime) it's clear that the lack of overall hx presence on the client is a problem for everyone. Without events running there isn't a steady base for people to get a decent number of listeners, and without that there's no possibility of creating a fun community atmosphere on the radio. DJs do need to put in more effort to be interactive and enthusiastic about hosting shows, but that won't do it alone if there's nothing happening to make people tune in in the first place

Empired
30-11-2014, 03:15 PM
I guess you're right about presenters not advertising very well, the only people I've actually seen anyone mentioning habboxlive is one or two staff members in the helpdesk, @Absently (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=50287); is always chatting about dancing with her dog whilst listening to habboxlive. I think advertising in official habbox rooms might be a little pointless at times, the majority who use those rooms already know about the radio and would tune in if they really wanted to.

I'm not sure what habbos policy on advertising official fansites in public rooms is but if it's allowed, those rooms should be targeted. I understand that might be difficult if no-one is showing up to a room when you advertise, so you're just standing there like an ejit on your own, heres the plan lads;

Habbox as a whole should plan a day where everyone gets together on the client as part of a 'habbox advertising campaign' for a couple of hours to help gain listeners for the radio. Think about it logically, even though you're only improving one department temporarily, the others will follow; if the radio is popular, the events, the forum and the helpdesk will also follow with victory through radio advertising. If the radio does get popular during one night, always have something massive planned for the next, it'll get those same viewers to tune back in. If there's not constant future plans, there's no point in ever trying to do competitions to gain listeners as they aren't going to stick around. 2 people aren't going to be able to convince people to tune into the radio but 102 will, even without speaking, if people see 100 people dressed in similar clothes, it'll get them interested in what the hell is going on. What's the point of sending in a request / shoutout if you know no-one is going to hear you, people will actually send in requests and stay interested if there's more listeners. Would you tune into your local radio / stay interested if you knew there was 5 people tuned in, i know i wouldn't, it's a bit boring if you know there isn't a mass audience, it makes it all a bit pointless.


@Wispur (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=55895); jump on my victorious plan, quick quick!​
Interesting idea. I think this would be so exciting if it were organised properly! :D I'd turn up to one of these if it were to go ahead but I have a feeling it will be turned down on the basis of some people in management+ not wanting to go on client because "oh I'm far too busy doing *insert a lot of mumbling and empty reasons*"

It would take a hell of a lot of organising for it to be a real success. But I would suggest:
Starting on a Saturday night at around 5:30 - 6pm and having advertised this on the forum, on habboxlive AND the main site well in advance (start mentioning seven days beforehand).
Get everyone into a popular public room (say the Welcome Lounge) and advertise HabboxLive as much as we possibly can for as long as possible.
Individuals can talk to other non-members and try and get them to sign up to the forum referrer empired x.
Then at about 6:45pm add as many people as you can in the room and tell everyone to search Shonly for the Habbox Help Desk. Go to the Help Desk to get ready for the Saturday Night Quiz, inviting your entire friends list.
The Saturday Night Quiz could perhaps have extra questions for that week or be embellished in some way to appeal to the new users we hopefully will have attracted. NO Habbox questions that week as any new users will not know the answers.
Then after the Saturday Night Quiz go straight on to an event or have more mini quizzes hosted til 8 and then go onto an event.

Basically just keep people occupied and interested for an entire evening and individuals can discuss the possibility of them signing up to the forum throughout the night.

I think that would be such an exciting night, perhaps the Saturday after Christmas (27th)? But feel free to criticise if you like xxx

WoodyLFC.2k7
30-11-2014, 07:36 PM
I've not been online for 14 days? I sent pms 4 days ago.. how bizarre...

Sho
30-11-2014, 07:56 PM
I've not been online for 14 days? I sent pms 4 days ago.. how bizarre...

They mean on Habbo :P

WoodyLFC.2k7
30-11-2014, 08:44 PM
They mean on Habbo :P
I wasn't aware I wasn't allowed to appear offline...

Nobody would know I'd not been on habbo.. none of the community are the kind of people I'd like to be friends with, so I don't talk to anyone anyway.. just seems a bit pathetic to try and make a big thing about someone, (big bold red letters) that you don't know, have never spoken to and have only ever complained about..

MKR&*42
30-11-2014, 08:47 PM
I wasn't aware I wasn't allowed to appear offline...

Nobody would know I'd not been on habbo.. none of the community are the kind of people I'd like to be friends with, so I don't talk to anyone anyway.. just seems a bit pathetic to try and make a big thing about someone, (big bold red letters) that you don't know, have never spoken to and have only ever complained about..

If you wre appearing offline on Habbo, I wouldnt be able to see your last login date. So that is a flat out lie.

Inseriousity.
30-11-2014, 08:47 PM
oh dear lmaooo

Empired
30-11-2014, 08:48 PM
I wasn't aware I wasn't allowed to appear offline...

Nobody would know I'd not been on habbo.. none of the community are the kind of people I'd like to be friends with, so I don't talk to anyone anyway.. just seems a bit pathetic to try and make a big thing about someone, (big bold red letters) that you don't know, have never spoken to and have only ever complained about..
Tip top attitude right there ladies and gents. Do we really want Head DJs who are apparently "too good" for the community? This seems incredibly harsh but I am slightly disgusted by your attitude here DJ Woody.

You cannot simply expect people to tune into your shows; give them something to tune in for.

Also you were not the only person to have your name bolded with red letters.

WoodyLFC.2k7
30-11-2014, 08:49 PM
If you wre appearing offline on Habbo, I wouldnt be able to see your last login date. So that is a flat out lie.

Actually, I never said I had appeared offline, more made a point that if I had you'd still have made a post about me..
I thought it had been longer since I was last on habbo actually...




Tip top attitude right there ladies and gents. Do we really want Head DJs who are apparently "too good" for the community? This seems incredibly harsh but I am slightly disgusted by your attitude here DJ Woody.

You cannot simply expect people to tune into your shows; give them something to tune in for.

Also you were not the only person to have your name bolded with red letters.

Never did I say I was too good for you... I just don't know of anyone within the community that's welcoming and fits in with the kind of person I am.. their are a few people I do get along with...

MKR&*42
30-11-2014, 08:52 PM
Actually, KEILLERISBANNED or w.e. is appearing offline and i did not bold red his name, but that's because I see him around. You can get as catty as you want at me, but it in no way excuses the fact you are a HEAD staff member in a COMMUNITY department who hasn't interacted with the HABBO COMMUNITY for 2 weeks+.

FlyingJesus
30-11-2014, 08:53 PM
So you're admitting that you 1) hate this community and 2) can't even be bothered to go on Habbo but can be bothered to pretend you did. I think that's rather more pathetic than someone complaining about it

Empired
30-11-2014, 08:53 PM
pissing myself

"I APPEAR OFFLINE HOW DARE YOU ATTACK ME"
...........
"I NEVER SAID I APPEAR OFFLINE I SAID I MIGHT BE STOP ATTACKING ME"

Richie
30-11-2014, 09:09 PM
I wasn't aware I wasn't allowed to appear offline...

Nobody would know I'd not been on habbo.. none of the community are the kind of people I'd like to be friends with, so I don't talk to anyone anyway.. just seems a bit pathetic to try and make a big thing about someone, (big bold red letters) that you don't know, have never spoken to and have only ever complained about..


Why the hell would you remain habbox staff if you don't like ANYONE from the habbox community lol

Samantha
30-11-2014, 09:37 PM
I wasn't aware I wasn't allowed to appear offline...

Nobody would know I'd not been on habbo.. none of the community are the kind of people I'd like to be friends with, so I don't talk to anyone anyway.. just seems a bit pathetic to try and make a big thing about someone, (big bold red letters) that you don't know, have never spoken to and have only ever complained about..

The subject of this feedback thread is HabboxLive, so surely all DJs are included in it, are you a part of it or are you too good for it and the community?

Part of your job is to interact with listeners and the community, after all you're one level under management and you should be showcasing your ideas to improve the department and the community spirit, not dwindle it even more.

Also, if you appeared offline on Habbo anyone who goes on your profile would be able to see. It seems that you got caught out lying and needed to try correct your story without anyone realising.

MKR&*42
30-11-2014, 09:49 PM
i think he's two levels under unless he's got it wrong way round. idk i don't get habboxlive's stupid manager/asst/head or senior/head or senior/normal staff, tier system. It seems grossly complex for not that large a department atm :P

Empired
30-11-2014, 09:51 PM
i think he's two levels under unless he's got it wrong way round. idk i don't get habboxlive's stupid manager/asst/head or senior/head or senior/normal staff, tier system. It seems grossly complex for not that large a department atm :P
Trialist > Guest > Normal > Senior > Head > Assistant Manager > Manager

i think

Jazz
30-11-2014, 10:19 PM
First off, out of the seniors and heads I think I only see Kimmy and Jess actually doing anything (Rachel probably does as well but im not in her timezone, so I haven't been able to tune in). I think the snr+ team need to really get themselves together.

IMO, I think there really needs to be a conversation with capable members of staff to come up with some set planned events

- HabboxStarz
- Festive Proms
- Giveaways (there is a HxLGiveaway account)
- Deal or no Deal
- The Vault (an event I wanted to bring back but saw no purpose in)

Also, there should be some bigger incentives for people who host weekly shows. They take a long time to plan and get right and should be rewarded extra. I would think maybe putting the minimum back to 3 would probably be a good plan as well, dropping it to 2 was to help the large volume of DJ's get a fair chance at a slot and now there isn't a large volume, more of a medium

The drop of listeners is (as said) probably down to the lack of presence on Habbo in general and the lack of good quality shows on the radio. It doesn't look like theres actual feedback getting to the DJ's who need it and if they do get feedback, it doesn't look like they've actually been assisted with their issues because the quality of their shows never improves. Also, the attitudes on some of the DJ's really puts me off wanting to help the department. Maybe the attitude rules should be tightened to push out the people who are bringing the other DJ's down? Maybe idk.

The thing with hiring DJ's and keeping listeners is that we really need to push the on-client stuff, simple things like working more firmly with mdport.; and the events department to help eachother grow again, get a cross department event in the works, get staff ideas and actually listen. It might not work, but its worth giving it a shot.

- Maybe a gameshow based event
- Maybe a verbal telephrase
- A hxl events room?

This might not make any sense, hopefully it does tho.

dbgtz
30-11-2014, 10:45 PM
It doesn't seem that anyone in this thread has taken into account the relative ease for someone to stream/download music on their own. What's the point in listening to a load of songs you don't like on the radio? There is none if all the DJ really says is the name of the songs being played. If you actually listen to radio, there's a good deal of commentary by a single host or discussion between multiple hosts after every few tracks and so long as it's good quality, that's something you can't get from simply streaming music. I genuinely believe there's too great of focus on quantity as opposed to quality of shows. Events and competitions are all well and dandy to keep people on the short term, but they do not retain many listeners in the long run.

ItsMeerken
30-11-2014, 11:39 PM
To be honest, i dont see the point in arguing over something like this, if a dj Is posted away, they dont have to be on habbo 24/7, i never really got into habbo, whilst my laptop has been in for repair i haven managed to get online as much, jamie / woody is in university i believe so he has other things to worry about and I do not agree with the fact you have checked our habbo statuses saying wether we have been online or not, pointless if im honest, i agree that radio hours have been low and izzy is looking into this, if and hdj needs help with their team i am happy to help them 100% of the way, habbox is one of the easiest departments for minimums and even better for the guest dj's who only have to meet mins once per month, i have coursework so i wont be on as much on habbo, i think the last time i fully left habbo for a while was for around 3 weeks without going on, i didnt see the point in it, a social community where all you do anyway is get slagged off by members, i have seen other members from different departments get cocky towards members, i get *REMOVED* all the time off people and you know what i do I DEAL WITH IT you dont see me arguing about it, get on with it.
I know kind of took that off target then but we dont need arguments, as i said izzy and head dj's are sorting it for the teams, dont have a go at them for doing their job, they dont need **** from anyone, if you need to make a personal comment why not just message Izzy herself im sure shell sort it,
Izzy's Forum Name - @IzzyUhh (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=116751)
Happy to help anyway, join habbox if your so bothered about it and do some hours for us...

Probs got bored reading this
But if you read it ty

Mark

Edited by e5 (Forum Super Moderator) Please do not avoid the forum filter.

sexpot
30-11-2014, 11:53 PM
this thread...

http://i.imgur.com/A0LQ7qd.gif

Samantha
30-11-2014, 11:57 PM
To be honest, i dont see the point in arguing over something like this, if a dj Is posted away, they dont have to be on habbo 24/7, i never really got into habbo, whilst my laptop has been in for repair i haven managed to get online as much, jamie / woody is in university i believe so he has other things to worry about and I do not agree with the fact you have checked our habbo statuses saying wether we have been online or not, pointless if im honest, i agree that radio hours have been low and izzy is looking into this, if and hdj needs help with their team i am happy to help them 100% of the way, habbox is one of the easiest departments for minimums and even better for the guest dj's who only have to meet mins once per month, i have coursework so i wont be on as much on habbo, i think the last time i fully left habbo for a while was for around 3 weeks without going on, i didnt see the point in it, a social community where all you do anyway is get slagged off by members, i have seen other members from different departments get cocky towards members, i get *REMOVED* all the time off people and you know what i do I DEAL WITH IT you dont see me arguing about it, get on with it.
I know kind of took that off target then but we dont need arguments, as i said izzy and head dj's are sorting it for the teams, dont have a go at them for doing their job, they dont need **** from anyone, if you need to make a personal comment why not just message Izzy herself im sure shell sort it,
Izzy's Forum Name - IzzyUhh
Happy to help anyway, join habbox if your so bothered about it and do some hours for us...

Probs got bored reading this
But if you read it ty

Mark

Can you actually read the thread, especially Intersocial;'s post where he lists all the DJs who haven't been online. As a HabboxLive DJ a part of your role is to GO ON THE GAME YOU VOLUNTEER ON THIS FANSITE FOR to interact with the community, to gain listeners and to improve Habbox. When a DJ hasn't been on Habbo for 21+ days then they are classed as 'away' for over the maximum period of time if they haven't been granted extended leave.

We're not on about people who have posted away, some of those listed haven't even been on the forum for almost a month and don't get me started on some of the Guest DJs - one of them hasn't been on the forum in nearly a month either, so where the hell is it inappropriate and pointless to go on someone's profile and find that? Izzy would have just done the same thing!

If a Head DJ is struggling, there are other Head DJs, Senior DJs and a manager to help out - I'm sure they only need to ask and not forget they have responsibilities in their role and a team to overlook.

I'm sorry, but certain DJs aren't doing their job if they're not on Habbo, is it too hard to understand that HABBOXLIVE is a community department that requires DJs online. If a DJ is offline on Habbo for 3 weeks then they should be getting warnings to say the least - yes by all means if they can't go on during their shows that's fine, but not going on Habbo for over 3 weeks when they should have DJed at least 6 times in that and they don't even bother going on when they're not DJing? A community member of staff should be on Habbo every couple of days at least. If someone is offline for X amount of time then no they are not doing their job.

As I have waffled on, I will leave you on this, I think it ties in with everything and the fact that some of the DJs in the department are not doing their job.


Completely Absent
This category is for those members of staff who seem to disappear off the face of the earth, with no prior warning. From their last online date judged by the online date displayed on HabboxForum.com the member of staff has 7 days in which to notify you, the Department Manager or General Management why they are away. Should they fail to do this within 7 days of the specified date the Department Manager must refer the case to the General Manager & Assistant General Manager (Staff) who will dismiss the staff member should they see it fit.



On that list (and include Guest DJs) go see who hasn't been on the forum for 7 days, 21 days whatever and tell me they're still doing their job.

'Happy to help anyway, join habbox if your so bothered about it and do some hours for us...'

Most of us commenting have been Habbox staff in the past, some to senior positions. However, why should we come do some hours when 6-7 of the DJs don't even bother coming on? Yes they might not have been picked up on, I know Izzy is sorting that, but surely when you DJ you should be advertising Habbox jobs making it a worthwhile fansite to work at?

Oh also, Woody may have university and that's completely understandable, you shouldn't put Habbox before your real life commitments. However, when it seems the reason he won't go on is because he doesn't particularly like the community then it goes a bit far. Now, if it was anyone else then of course they'd be pulled up upon it too - I don't think the others would react the same way though. Also, those who haven't been on might have other commitments, but the away time still stands if they're not online for 3 weeks without posting away isn't that 3 warnings, if they are posted away then they need extended leave surely?

ItsMeerken
01-12-2014, 12:10 AM
I understand that and i have read the whole of it, i just dont see the point in going through the list of names to find out who isnt active or not, i alo have noticed that Jamie / Woody doesnt have Habbox Live Head DJ (Woody) instead it just says gold member, this says to me that i dont even think hes staff any more... i might be wrong but idk

Krazybethw
01-12-2014, 12:11 AM
First off, out of the seniors and heads I think I only see Kimmy and Jess actually doing anything (Rachel probably does as well but im not in her timezone, so I haven't been able to tune in). I think the snr+ team need to really get themselves together.
.

I actually do quite a lot. Mainly behind the scenes but i do, do alot. I just don't want to brag about what i do.

And to everyone else:

I would take any feedback/comments on my DJing and ways in which I can improve and so would most of the DJ's it just needs to be offered by people in the community so that we all know what we need to do. (This thread has done a good job doing that tbh.)

Samantha
01-12-2014, 12:16 AM
I understand that and i have read the whole of it, i just dont see the point in going through the list of names to find out who isnt active or not, i alo have noticed that Jamie / Woody doesnt have Habbox Live Head DJ (Woody) instead it just says gold member, this says to me that i dont even think hes staff any more... i might be wrong but idk

Well the point was to see if everyone was actually pulling their weight (meaning those who haven't been on the forum too for me anyway). Izzy thanked me for doing it as it did save her a job.

Not sure about Woody though, if he had VIP/Donator it might have run out and took his staff perms accidentally with it.

MKR&*42
01-12-2014, 12:41 AM
Whomever -repped me for posting about your last login date, there's still no need to be so butthurt over it. Didn't want to be caught out on your bad activity? Then don't be inactive. Hopefully habboxlive will change around someday and get to a point where certain DJs actually interact with the community and take criticism :P

Danny
01-12-2014, 01:13 AM
I didn't even touch on the attitudes of DJ staff in my first post, but it seems like I didn't have to! I'm with other people, if you are apart of the community departments, you should be on Habbo. This has clearly pointed out one of the factors, as to why Djs don't have listeners. They don't like to be apart of this community, which is strange actually because the people you go on air for are the ones you hate. It seems like it's a "Them and Us" kind of scenario, but we are all apart of the same thing.

Richie
01-12-2014, 01:48 AM
To be honest, i dont see the point in arguing over something like this, if a dj Is posted away, they dont have to be on habbo 24/7, i never really got into habbo, whilst my laptop has been in for repair i haven managed to get online as much, jamie / woody is in university i believe so he has other things to worry about and I do not agree with the fact you have checked our habbo statuses saying wether we have been online or not, pointless if im honest, i agree that radio hours have been low and izzy is looking into this, if and hdj needs help with their team i am happy to help them 100% of the way, habbox is one of the easiest departments for minimums and even better for the guest dj's who only have to meet mins once per month, i have coursework so i wont be on as much on habbo, i think the last time i fully left habbo for a while was for around 3 weeks without going on, i didnt see the point in it, a social community where all you do anyway is get slagged off by members, i have seen other members from different departments get cocky towards members, i get *REMOVED* all the time off people and you know what i do I DEAL WITH IT you dont see me arguing about it, get on with it.
I know kind of took that off target then but we dont need arguments, as i said izzy and head dj's are sorting it for the teams, dont have a go at them for doing their job, they dont need **** from anyone, if you need to make a personal comment why not just message Izzy herself im sure shell sort it,
Izzy's Forum Name - @IzzyUhh (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=116751)
Happy to help anyway, join habbox if your so bothered about it and do some hours for us...

Probs got bored reading this
But if you read it ty

Mark

Point 1) No-one is slagging anyone off
Point 2) lol
Point 3) Basically says, if someone is bad their job why don't you join and fix it. In other words 'LOL SO WHAT YOU FIX IT'.

ItsMeerken
01-12-2014, 01:52 AM
Point 1) No-one is slagging anyone off
Point 2) lol
Point 3) Basically says, if someone is bad their job why don't you join and fix it. In other words 'LOL SO WHAT YOU FIX IT'.

I do agree

scottish
01-12-2014, 01:54 AM
I do agree

So you're agreeing that your previous post in which you said people are slagging you off is false and no-one actually is.

And you're agreeing that your solution to make Habboxlive better instead of you doing your job, is to ask others to join and do your job for them.

ItsMeerken
01-12-2014, 02:04 AM
It might sound like that but it isnt like that in any way, I do my job at habbox to my best abilities, people are so bothered about there not being any dj's on, we cant force them to dj can we...
Habbox Need the DJ's as we are only a small department, look at when i was here back in June 2014 - IT WAS PACKED!
now look at us> barely any dj's - baring in mind we are only allowed to book 4 slots per week and 2 in a row


As a HabboxLive DJ you are required to book (and turn up to) at-least 2 slots per week

4) DJ's should not pre-book more than 4 slots per week. If you do have more than 4 slots booked at one time then your Head DJ will un-book some of your slots and send you a PM. DJs must not prebook more than 2 slots on any given day except for slots that are covered.

these quotes back my point up massively, it is hard when this happens as we have like 18 dj's (not sure of the amount)

Samantha
01-12-2014, 02:06 AM
Nip, punch first feedback thread of the month.

If you believe someone is slagging you off - report it? The Forum Department won't bite and this feedback thread, as Richie rightly put it is not slagging you off. You may believe it's personal as you are a part of the department, but some of the DJs need to act like they are and have that passion back.

34 people in the HabboxLive Department including management and guests - 25 that are trialist/normal/senior/head.

You need to do 2 slots per week so that's 50 slots covered there. Is it 2 that need to be prebooked? So 50 slots should be filled most of the time. A few DJs do more of that therefore if everyone prebooked 4 slots it'd be 100 slots there, before the 11 that are management or guest.

UndeadDevilHD; so technically it should look fairly full now as all DJs don't have too long to prebook, is it still 8pm? Am I right in saying if you book a slot and DJed at 7pm today and had 3 slots on 3 other days, then you can then book another slot after today's timetable is reset? Does it still work like that, sorry I'm not 100% anymore.

You're not too limited though that way. It may back up your point a little bit, but it's easy to pass by staying on (if you can) if there's a gap after you, or one of your slots is done therefore book another?

scottish
01-12-2014, 02:08 AM
I'm not seeing your point...

Your quotes state:
1) You must do at least 2 slots per week
2) You can only pre-book 4 slots per week at once time, don't prebook over 2 slots in a day.

So all that's saying is you can't advance book over 4 slots a week or over 2 per day...

You can still DJ for 8 hours a day and book 16 slots a week. You just can't book 16 at once, you can book 4, then 4, then 4, then 4..

Samantha
01-12-2014, 02:14 AM
IzzyUhh; if minimums are going back up again scottish; UndeadDevilHD; that would mean you can prebook up to 6 slots and no more than 3 per day, 25 staff so that's 75 slots almost half of the week covered already) - are Guest DJ minimums still 2/3 slots per month? Wouldn't it be worthwhile (since there are so many now) to alter the minimum slightly for them and say they need to DJ once per week? Like the Guest Events Organisers - I see it like this, if they don't DJ until the last week of the month, then you get staff believing they can go AWOL for 24 days (yes that's an example of a Guest DJ currently) and come back and do their slots at the end of the month? When the same rule should apply for all staff regardless of their role.

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It might sound like that but it isnt like that in any way, I do my job at habbox to my best abilities, people are so bothered about there not being any dj's on, we cant force them to dj can we...
Habbox Need the DJ's as we are only a small department, look at when i was here back in June 2014 - IT WAS PACKED!
now look at us> barely any dj's - baring in mind we are only allowed to book 4 slots per week and 2 in a row




these quotes back my point up massively, it is hard when this happens as we have like 18 dj's (not sure of the amount)

Only just noticed that bit. A small department I would class as Values, Forum, Competitions etc. HabboxLive is the biggest at Habbox at the moment and I believe it would be expected to have the biggest impact on Habbo. I don't believe this is the case currently, but hopefully we'll see things improving especially since the Christmas holidays are coming up.

ItsMeerken
01-12-2014, 02:21 AM
i meant to put 28 dj's on the last bit woops

if you do the maths of this

28x2=56
this then means that we have 168 hours to cover per week
if each dj met minimums and thats it we would have this
168-56=112 hours (FREE)
this also backs my point up saying that we do need more dj's as not many of us can do more than the minimums, i personally can because of the weekly show and stuff like that, me and Aroonie meet our minimums just by doing that but do we stop there?
No we dont, we try to keep the radio up and running when nobody else can go on because they are
A) either too busy
B) Have something planned
C) Posted Away
D) Cant be bothered at all
So what i am trying to say is if all of us stick to the minimums of 2 Slots per week then we would be in an even worse state than what we are right now

I just want the department to do well, to be honest, we could do with more dj's hence why i am posting this, US DJ's are being pushed to the limit for slots and this is the reason why plenty of them are resigning.
Groups are small hence why there is no such thing as Team Bravo any more which was run by Mr Bikini himself (Brad) there ended up being no chance of having 2 international teams because we dont have many international dj's any more im surprised DJ Kitty XxZammyxX correct me if im wrong with that < im surprised she copes with very little of a team now.

Thinking of this now too there is only 3 Head DJ's now if Jamies UT isnt wrong if it is then we have 4, we have 2 senior dj's which is Collegno and Bethy, they are working together to help each team i believe so they arent just working for their own teams they are bonding with other teams too

Im sure this all makes sence but if you have no clue in what i am talking about then i suggest closing the browser and waiting for another post to be added :)

I might seem cocky with that bit but it is true, i make 100% sense with this and you should understand how habbox is at the moment!

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I'm not seeing your point...

Your quotes state:
1) You must do at least 2 slots per week
2) You can only pre-book 4 slots per week at once time, don't prebook over 2 slots in a day.

So all that's saying is you can't advance book over 4 slots a week or over 2 per day...

You can still DJ for 8 hours a day and book 16 slots a week. You just can't book 16 at once, you can book 4, then 4, then 4, then 4..

It doesnt work like that, you cant just do 4 and then another 4 after and so on it just doesnt work

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Nip, punch first feedback thread of the month.

If you believe someone is slagging you off - report it? The Forum Department won't bite and this feedback thread, as Richie rightly put it is not slagging you off. You may believe it's personal as you are a part of the department, but some of the DJs need to act like they are and have that passion back.

34 people in the HabboxLive Department including management and guests - 25 that are trialist/normal/senior/head.

You need to do 2 slots per week so that's 50 slots covered there. Is it 2 that need to be prebooked? So 50 slots should be filled most of the time. A few DJs do more of that therefore if everyone prebooked 4 slots it'd be 100 slots there, before the 11 that are management or guest.

UndeadDevilHD; so technically it should look fairly full now as all DJs don't have too long to prebook, is it still 8pm? Am I right in saying if you book a slot and DJed at 7pm today and had 3 slots on 3 other days, then you can then book another slot after today's timetable is reset? Does it still work like that, sorry I'm not 100% anymore.

You're not too limited though that way. It may back up your point a little bit, but it's easy to pass by staying on (if you can) if there's a gap after you, or one of your slots is done therefore book another?

Just seen this too Samanfa, it is still book by 8:00pm, you cant book more than 2 at any one time and you have to book 4 slots throughout the week which then counts as you pre booking, either that or the other way around, i get confused with that bit all the time bit the head dj's remind us a day before and a couple of hours before to make sure we book

Samantha
01-12-2014, 02:27 AM
i meant to put 28 dj's on the last bit woops

if you do the maths of this

28x2=56
this then means that we have 168 hours to cover per week
if each dj met minimums and thats it we would have this
168-56=112 hours (FREE)
this also backs my point up saying that we do need more dj's as not many of us can do more than the minimums, i personally can because of the weekly show and stuff like that, me and Aroonie meet our minimums just by doing that but do we stop there?
No we dont, we try to keep the radio up and running when nobody else can go on because they are
A) either too busy
B) Have something planned
C) Posted Away
D) Cant be bothered at all
So what i am trying to say is if all of us stick to the minimums of 2 Slots per week then we would be in an even worse state than what we are right now

I just want the department to do well, to be honest, we could do with more dj's hence why i am posting this, US DJ's are being pushed to the limit for slots and this is the reason why plenty of them are resigning.
Groups are small hence why there is no such thing as Team Bravo any more which was run by Mr Bikini himself (Brad) there ended up being no chance of having 2 international teams because we dont have many international dj's any more im surprised DJ Kitty XxZammyxX correct me if im wrong with that < im surprised she copes with very little of a team now.

Thinking of this now too there is only 3 Head DJ's now if Jamies UT isnt wrong if it is then we have 4, we have 2 senior dj's which is Collegno and Bethy, they are working together to help each team i believe so they arent just working for their own teams they are bonding with other teams too

Im sure this all makes sence but if you have no clue in what i am talking about then i suggest closing the browser and waiting for another post to be added :)

I might seem cocky with that bit but it is true, i make 100% sense with this and you should understand how habbox is at the moment!

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It doesnt work like that, you cant just do 4 and then another 4 after and so on it just doesnt work

Hopefully the minimum will be raised, yeah some DJs may not agree with it, but it was always going to be a temporary measure. At least if the minimum is raised that should be half the slots filled per week - I know that never goes to plan as I remember doing the weekly leader boards and ripping my hair out, but hopefully the Christmas events as well will recruit more staff if anything too!

Krazybethw
01-12-2014, 02:30 AM
Just seen this too Samanfa, it is still book by 8:00pm, you cant book more than 2 at any one time and you have to book 4 slots throughout the week which then counts as you pre booking, either that or the other way around, i get confused with that bit all the time bit the head dj's remind us a day before and a couple of hours before to make sure we book


You can only have 4 slots pre-booked at any one time on the panel. And have to pre-book 2 by 8pm monday. Which doesn't happen much now.

ItsMeerken
01-12-2014, 02:30 AM
Also with the christmas events samanfa, will HabboxLive staff be able to host?
just a genuine question for this as we should be able to host events over the seasonal holiday

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You can only have 4 slots pre-booked at any one time on the panel.

oki ty

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And my post status for next week will be quite the bit high for habboxlive xD

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Samantha
01-12-2014, 02:42 AM
Also with the christmas events samanfa, will HabboxLive staff be able to host?
just a genuine question for this as we should be able to host events over the seasonal holiday

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oki ty

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And my post status for next week will be quite the bit high for habboxlive xD

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I think it's more a day for HabboxLive to showcase what they can do and recruit more staff whilst advertising the department overall.

scottish
01-12-2014, 02:47 AM
It doesnt work like that, you cant just do 4 and then another 4 after and so on it just doesnt work

Of course you can, you can pre-book 4, do those 4 slots, pre-book another 4, do those 4 slots etc.

The only rule there is stating you can't prebook MORE than 4 at ONE time. So you can pre-book 4, do at least 1 then pre-book another one.

Or, pre-book 1AM and 2AM, do 1AM then pre-book 3AM, do 2AM then pre-book 4AM and so on assuming no-one else is trying to book that's perfectly fine within those rules.

If people aren't on the client for 21 days or something they should just be removed.
If people aren't meeting their minimums they should just be removed.
If people are a guest DJ they should just be removed (because we know people only stay guest DJ's because they don't have to do anything)

Senior Staff and Managers should be doing well over the minimum and anyone who gets promoted should be doing well over the minimum.

If there's less DJ's (considerably) than when the minimums were set, then increase it. Change min to 4 slots per week.

ItsMeerken
01-12-2014, 02:56 AM
I Seriously and most definately do not agree one bit with you on that!

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We need the Jingles working on too, instead of xxMATTGxx it is now Shonly for the helpdesk but our hxhd jingle says search matt for it
most jingles are out of date so it kind of puts a bad sign on habbox with it too because we cant promote different departments either,

scottish
01-12-2014, 02:59 AM
You disagree with who and what.

Samantha
01-12-2014, 03:01 AM
I Seriously and most definately do not agree one bit with you on that!

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We need the Jingles working on too, instead of xxMATTGxx it is now Shonly for the helpdesk but our hxhd jingle says search matt for it
most jingles are out of date so it kind of puts a bad sign on habbox with it too because we cant promote different departments either,

So staff who haven't been on client for longer than the maximum away time shouldn't be dismissed?

Also scottish; is right, you can prebook 4 slots, but once you've done one of them you can book another.

I find it great that you bring up a problem that wasn't even mentioned really in here with the jingles instead of putting it in the suggestion thread in your designated staff forum.

ItsMeerken
01-12-2014, 03:03 AM
Samanfa, im on about where Scottish said dismiss all guest djs and make the management do more slots, we only have 1 radio manager she isnt bloody wonder woman she cant just do 18 hours on the trot (just an example <-)

Kyle
01-12-2014, 03:06 AM
She can do more hours though.


~~from phone

ItsMeerken
01-12-2014, 03:07 AM
If people aren't meeting their minimums they should just be removed.
If people are a guest DJ they should just be removed (because we know people only stay guest DJ's because they don't have to do anything)

Senior Staff and Managers should be doing well over the minimum and anyone who gets promoted should be doing well over the minimum.

If there's less DJ's (considerably) than when the minimums were set, then increase it. Change min to 4 slots per week.
Do you really think that this will happen with the guest dj's

i have done the ones in red where i dont agree with you and the ones in green where i do agree with you ^

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Everyone is set a minimum for a reason, people meet them, Izzy has her minimums, I have my minumums for 2 departments, i get them done, the whole reason for guest dj is it is for ex managers and sr+ not for people who are lazy and cant be fked doing anything, i mean look at gina shes a guest dj do you think we should sack her for doing slots
its the people that cant be *REMOVED* doing slots at all that should be removed as you said, nothing else should change

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Sorry i meant to put Sr+ who have stepped down from their roles so they can still be in the team

for ex managers and sr+

Edited by e5 (Forum Super Moderator) - Please do not avoid the forum filter.

Samantha
01-12-2014, 03:13 AM
Samanfa, im on about where Scottish said dismiss all guest djs and make the management do more slots, we only have 1 radio manager she isnt bloody wonder woman she cant just do 18 hours on the trot (just an example <-)

No you're not on about that...


I Seriously and most definately do not agree one bit with you on that!



You were on about it all, if you were on about something specific you should have said.

It's for 'some' ex senior, not all of them are :P.

scottish
01-12-2014, 03:14 AM
You removed "If people aren't on the client for 21 days or something they should just be removed."

No, I don't think it will happen but it should. 'Guest DJs' was a role that came into existence because the DJs were too lazy to do their job and didn't want to give up the role.

Why do you disagree with the people who are higher in staff should do more? I don't think it's a good example to set if you have high staff members barely meeting the minimum then normal staff members doing double/triple that. Senior Staff and Managers are promoted because they were once good in the department (or out of pure desperation as of late) and a promotion isn't a reason for them to just kick back and stop doing anything, or claiming (like even higher staff) that they're busy doing behind the scenes work. No. You're not, you're doing nothing.

The minimum slots were set with probably double the staff, with the intent of most of the staff meeting the minimums and thus getting most slots done, so increasing the minimums with considerably less staff only makes sense.

Samantha
01-12-2014, 03:19 AM
UndeadDevilHD; a question for you, one Guest DJ hasn't been on the forum or Habbo for 24-26 days now, should they just be allowed to stay because they've been senior in the past?

Krazybethw
01-12-2014, 04:49 AM
or claiming (like even higher staff) that they're busy doing behind the scenes work. No. You're not, you're doing nothing.


Im assuming thats a dig at me as I did write this earlier. I meet and exceed my minimums every week including my DJ minimums. I also offer and help IzzyUhh with various things. So no. Im not doing nothing. I am actually doing something!

Rachel
01-12-2014, 05:24 AM
I always meet my requirements for both department I am in. I do my best to take the radio when it is offline when I can but I am sorry but I put my real life first . I care about HXL & hxhd a lot but I can only do my possibility.

Jazz
01-12-2014, 08:52 AM
I actually do quite a lot. Mainly behind the scenes but i do, do alot. I just don't want to brag about what i do.

its in relation to on client and on client events, that is one of the points in the thread

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Of course you can, you can pre-book 4, do those 4 slots, pre-book another 4, do those 4 slots etc.

The only rule there is stating you can't prebook MORE than 4 at ONE time. So you can pre-book 4, do at least 1 then pre-book another one.

Or, pre-book 1AM and 2AM, do 1AM then pre-book 3AM, do 2AM then pre-book 4AM and so on assuming no-one else is trying to book that's perfectly fine within those rules.

If people aren't on the client for 21 days or something they should just be removed.
If people aren't meeting their minimums they should just be removed.
If people are a guest DJ they should just be removed (because we know people only stay guest DJ's because they don't have to do anything)

Senior Staff and Managers should be doing well over the minimum and anyone who gets promoted should be doing well over the minimum.

If there's less DJ's (considerably) than when the minimums were set, then increase it. Change min to 4 slots per week.

+ = This would easily be a more effective system in regards to minimums.

The guest DJ's have minimums as well, 3 a month and if they're slacking they get removed. I think the Guest DJ system is good how it is

Kyle
01-12-2014, 12:38 PM
I always meet my requirements for both department I am in. I do my best to take the radio when it is offline when I can but I am sorry but I put my real life first . I care about HXL & hxhd a lot but I can only do my possibility.
what do you do aas a head dj

scottish
01-12-2014, 01:06 PM
Im assuming thats a dig at me as I did write this earlier. I meet and exceed my minimums every week including my DJ minimums. I also offer and help IzzyUhh with various things. So no. Im not doing nothing. I am actually doing something!

I've never heard of you before, so no it's not a dig at you, it's mainly at higher staff (above hxl)

IzzyUhh
01-12-2014, 01:36 PM
The thing about raising the minimum again has been brought up to me many times and it's something I think about doing but always factors that come up but it's still something I'm considering.

Head+ activity is very important and is usually higher than DJs anyway and activity is something that I'm working on and will be until it's at a good standard.

Regarding me DJing (I saw Marks post, but didn't see anyone else mention it unless I'm missing something) I try to DJ as regular as I can, but I try to go on when I can or when the radios offline. Usually when I get home, the radios offline.

Again as said if anyone has any suggestions or issues they can PM me and I do try my best to get it sorted whatever it may be :)

The jingles is something you could have just said to me or posted in staff only, but Sho and I have already started looking for then but it's not something done automatically because they cost money

Oh and the activity thing I've been trying to get up to date and at a good standard this month, and I know that Kimmy for example has been pushing her team, I always push people and tell them to be active because some DJs have been here a long time to know the rules

Hopefully I didn't miss out much

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FlyingJesus
01-12-2014, 02:06 PM
3 hours a week is nothing, if people can't commit to that then they're likely not even part of the community anyway and frankly shouldn't be pretending they should be called staff. There is not a single job that takes up less time than that, even rare values probably spend at least that making up numbers and graphics definitely spend that much time claiming that they have a job to do so there's no reason at all to not have minimums higher - and just a little reminder to staff that that is a minimum, not a target.

Jingles not an issue and time should not be wasted on them, if anything they should all be destroyed forever because they are utterly useless and provide nothing that the DJ shouldn't be providing themselves anyway.

Loving Sam being more active in this thread than she was over the whole site when she was AGM work it

Danny
01-12-2014, 02:06 PM
This is something I suggested a while back, but I think this could help raise listeners..... I don't think it is classed as leaking because it was my idea anyways..

Got a suggestion for boosting competitions online and potentially raising listeners. Having worked at the HxHD for a good 3 months or so, I've seen how the SNQ is popular but it's the Monthly draw for VIP [members LOVE VIP!] that's given me a little idea here and hopefully with approval from the appropriate people, it could help with current issues that have been raised.

Okay so, throughout the week [Or could even be a Month] Dj's could host on air competitions, which result in winner recieving a point. Their names and points would be recorded on the forum so we can keep note of the points and at the end of the week the person with the most points would recieve a weeks VIP [or more depending on the GM's view of this] or you could let it build over a month and the prize would be a months VIP instead.

Um hopefully you've all understood this otherwise i'll have to try and re-word this.

Danny
01-12-2014, 03:06 PM
what do you do aas a head dj

Kyle, You send out cautions/warnings if somebody doesn't prebook 2 slots by 8PM Monday each week, warnings to those that fail to meet minimums at the end of the week, if a Show Issue is reported by a Senior/Another Head DJ/Management you also send out cautions or reminder PM's where needed.

Also, if a Head DJ and Senior belongs to the same team, you split monthly reports that are needed to be written.
Also two events a month are supposed to be hosted by each Head DJ, be it on air or on Habbo, so that would be a giveaway on the account.
And tune into each of your DJ's throughout the month and send out Feedback PM's to each.
Aswell as being on air 2 hours per week.

Inseriousity.
01-12-2014, 06:34 PM
This is something I suggested a while back, but I think this could help raise listeners..... I don't think it is classed as leaking because it was my idea anyways..

Got a suggestion for boosting competitions online and potentially raising listeners. Having worked at the HxHD for a good 3 months or so, I've seen how the SNQ is popular but it's the Monthly draw for VIP [members LOVE VIP!] that's given me a little idea here and hopefully with approval from the appropriate people, it could help with current issues that have been raised.

Okay so, throughout the week [Or could even be a Month] Dj's could host on air competitions, which result in winner recieving a point. Their names and points would be recorded on the forum so we can keep note of the points and at the end of the week the person with the most points would recieve a weeks VIP [or more depending on the GM's view of this] or you could let it build over a month and the prize would be a months VIP instead.

Um hopefully you've all understood this otherwise i'll have to try and re-word this.

Could be easily done. It actually works more like a raffle for things like SNQ and comps treasure chest (another example) and I think that way would work better rather than a tournament-based system. The difference is that members do love VIP but generally speaking, HxL listeners are not members, they're part of the Habbo community that don't really take part in the forum side of things and more should be done to get them over. VIP might do it but it is usually more about building relationships and DJs being the friendly face to gently persuade them to join Habbox full time, which is why Habbo presence is so important and such a shame it is lacking with a couple DJs in this thread severely underestimating the importance of it. Admittedly, perhaps undead's point, however generalised, has come true with several people much more older and eloquent than him jumping down his throat because of it rather than being more supportive.

Kyle
01-12-2014, 07:08 PM
Kyle, You send out cautions/warnings if somebody doesn't prebook 2 slots by 8PM Monday each week, warnings to those that fail to meet minimums at the end of the week, if a Show Issue is reported by a Senior/Another Head DJ/Management you also send out cautions or reminder PM's where needed.

Also, if a Head DJ and Senior belongs to the same team, you split monthly reports that are needed to be written.
Also two events a month are supposed to be hosted by each Head DJ, be it on air or on Habbo, so that would be a giveaway on the account.
And tune into each of your DJ's throughout the month and send out Feedback PM's to each.
Aswell as being on air 2 hours per week.

Thanks for clarification although I was askin a specific person about their personal contribution within the role. What you have listed appear to be largely administrative roles which is becoming quite the trend at habbox of late. Writing reports and giveaways may well take up a large portion of time (I know from experience that they do with large teams, not sure what the distribution is like at habboxlive at the moment) but time must be spared for actual community or friendship focused interaction. It would appear that the problems faced by Laura and shonly are echoed here -- too much administration, not enough time to work towards building community. Sad times


~~from phone

Inseriousity.
01-12-2014, 07:17 PM
Thanks for clarification although I was askin a specific person about their personal contribution within the role. What you have listed appear to be largely administrative roles which is becoming quite the trend at habbox of late. Writing reports and giveaways may well take up a large portion of time (I know from experience that they do with large teams, not sure what the distribution is like at habboxlive at the moment) but time must be spared for actual community or friendship focused interaction. It would appear that the problems faced by Laura and shonly are echoed here -- too much administration, not enough time to work towards building community. Sad times


~~from phone

Actually, I'd say that admin is just being used as an excuse, more to bulk up what people do. Every department has admin and some have more than others - it is definitely not a new trend nor does there appear to be more than the norm so I would disagree with you there - but there seems to be an idea that you can't multitask or that it's impossible to work on several things at once. For instance, the PMs that debs mentioned are already provided in a template and it's simply a case of copying and pasting it over and filling in the blanks. Even sending out 40 competitions winners PMs a month with a similar system took half an hour, hour max. If we assume on average that someone volunteering at Habbox volunteers 16 hours a week, only 5-6 of those would be on admin and meeting the minimums. Plenty of time to do other stuff and get involved with the community but "oh no I can't do that because I'm busy working behind the scenes"

Kyle
01-12-2014, 07:21 PM
Who the hell has 16hours a week for habbox jobs pfft


~~from phone

Inseriousity.
01-12-2014, 07:54 PM
some people do lots less, some do lots more. I did say on average and it was more guesswork than scientific fact lol so you can take it with a pinch of salt. Either way, admin work is still a minor part of the role being overexaggerated.

FlyingJesus
01-12-2014, 07:57 PM
Anyone who doesn't give at least 16 hours a week to Habbox is a traitor and should be hanged, staff or not

Bloop
02-12-2014, 01:07 AM
Empired; pretty sure the mass pimping thing is only done by retros, scam sites and other irrelevant fansites with no class. Trust me, the only thing you will get from a raid of the Welcome Lounge is only a hurl of abuse thrown at you lmao, and it will also leave people a bad impression of Habbox.
(I MEAN WE ARE SOPHISTICATED PEOPLE, ARE WE NOT???)
I like the idea though, but wouldn't it make more sense to gather at the Help Desk? :O Then perhaps you guys could then make an effort to creep all the curious visitors out by (pretending to) be nice, and force them to make an account on here where they will slowly morph into slaves and succumb to the Habbox addiction.

I'm not really familiar with the whole issue, but, I do agree after reading the thread, that yes, HabboxLive minimums do need to be raised, maybe to 3/4 slots. In addition, like what has been said, DJs not going onto Habbo do seem to pose a problem in terms of advertising and making themselves known of what they are doing, and I think presence on client while DJing should be made mandatory, solely to advertise and draw in listeners (which methods I will go into detail in the later part of the post).
However, some DJs are doing their job because they enjoy it which (I think) is the reason that leads to their lack of activity on-client - as they just wish to just DJ, but have no interest in Habbo (forever don't understand these people but yeah) so forcing DJ's to get on would drive them out of Habbox. Therefore, I feel rules should be enforced that when the DJs are doing their slots to meet their minimums, it is compulsory to go on to advertise, attend events etc. However, if they have met their minimums already but wish to DJ more, they need not go on client. (Does all this makes sense LOL :P)

So, when meeting their minimums, the DJs have to go on and do a couple of advertising as listeners don't just drop out of the sky. I think a key way to increase the number of listeners is through events:-
A. Giveaway
B. Auto-game
C. HabboxLive Homeroom
D. HabboxEvents

A. Giveaway
One of the reasons why ThisHabbo can get about 40+ listeners at times is due to their giveaways. These giveaways usually require a code to roll the dice to get a prize, which may be said on air, or simply is the current DJ's name or the song playing at that moment etc.
Giveaways are a great way to get people to tune in as the people will be listening not only for the code, but also during the wait for their turns. Who knows, they might even become loyal people who will tune in regularly.
There is a flaw in this, as the DJs would have to fund their prizes, but I'm willing to help and I think most others are too to improve the department. Some DJs are also unable to multi-task and it would be hard to both DJ and host at the same time, thus a fellow DJ could help in the giveaway in this case. There is also another alternative, which brings me to B.

B. Auto-game
There perhaps could be an official department auto-game like a wired maze where people could play during the DJ's slot while the person DJs. This too, will encourage the people to tune in as they are playing the game.
This would be also less troublesome for DJ's as they need not host, and the game arena would be easily available to them without them needing to have one of their own, and they just have to check back from time to time to give out prizes to the winners, as the game is, well, automated.
Prizes here are also a issue though :(.

C. HabboxLive Homeroom
I would also like to see a "homeroom" but Drewar's Party Suite or the Help Desk would suffice, as sort of a gathering place where listeners could gather together and chat. While it might be quite pathetic if there is no one else in the room, DJs could take some self-initiative to load up some clones to populate the room, but even without them, it is better than nothing. (Sometimes tagging the room with giveaway or shop would have visitors coming to the room) LMS here could help in terms of advertising and claimants for an on-air competition prize would also have a much easier life.

D. HabboxEvents
When all else fails, it would be good to actually attend an event, be it as a player, or just DJ from the VIP area. This will in turn populate the room and will draw crowds to the event, getting more people to tune in while they play. Listeners would also head on down to the event to play a game or two.

I think the HabboxLive numbers would steadily increase by itself as long as the DJs actually go on and advertise that they are on-air. More people would know Habbox and might be interested enough to sign up as a DJ, and the listener count itself would sway potential DJs. I mean, you wouldn't want to DJ to 2 unique listeners, would you?

Hope I didn't go out of point and sorry for bad grammar :P.

Samantha
02-12-2014, 01:45 AM
Empired; pretty sure the mass pimping thing is only done by retros, scam sites and other irrelevant fansites with no class. Trust me, the only thing you will get from a raid of the Welcome Lounge is only a hurl of abuse thrown at you lmao, and it will also leave people a bad impression of Habbox.
(I MEAN WE ARE SOPHISTICATED PEOPLE, ARE WE NOT???)
I like the idea though, but wouldn't it make more sense to gather at the Help Desk? :O Then perhaps you guys could then make an effort to creep all the curious visitors out by (pretending to) be nice, and force them to make an account on here where they will slowly morph into slaves and succumb to the Habbox addiction.

I'm not really familiar with the whole issue, but, I do agree after reading the thread, that yes, HabboxLive minimums do need to be raised, maybe to 3/4 slots. In addition, like what has been said, DJs not going onto Habbo do seem to pose a problem in terms of advertising and making themselves known of what they are doing, and I think presence on client while DJing should be made mandatory, solely to advertise and draw in listeners (which methods I will go into detail in the later part of the post).
However, some DJs are doing their job because they enjoy it which (I think) is the reason that leads to their lack of activity on-client - as they just wish to just DJ, but have no interest in Habbo (forever don't understand these people but yeah) so forcing DJ's to get on would drive them out of Habbox. Therefore, I feel rules should be enforced that when the DJs are doing their slots to meet their minimums, it is compulsory to go on to advertise, attend events etc. However, if they have met their minimums already but wish to DJ more, they need not go on client. (Does all this makes sense LOL :P)

So, when meeting their minimums, the DJs have to go on and do a couple of advertising as listeners don't just drop out of the sky. I think a key way to increase the number of listeners is through events:-
A. Giveaway
B. Auto-game
C. HabboxLive Homeroom
D. HabboxEvents

A. Giveaway
One of the reasons why ThisHabbo can get about 40+ listeners at times is due to their giveaways. These giveaways usually require a code to roll the dice to get a prize, which may be said on air, or simply is the current DJ's name or the song playing at that moment etc.
Giveaways are a great way to get people to tune in as the people will be listening not only for the code, but also during the wait for their turns. Who knows, they might even become loyal people who will tune in regularly.
There is a flaw in this, as the DJs would have to fund their prizes, but I'm willing to help and I think most others are too to improve the department. Some DJs are also unable to multi-task and it would be hard to both DJ and host at the same time, thus a fellow DJ could help in the giveaway in this case. There is also another alternative, which brings me to B.

B. Auto-game
There perhaps could be an official department auto-game like a wired maze where people could play during the DJ's slot while the person DJs. This too, will encourage the people to tune in as they are playing the game.
This would be also less troublesome for DJ's as they need not host, and the game arena would be easily available to them without them needing to have one of their own, and they just have to check back from time to time to give out prizes to the winners, as the game is, well, automated.
Prizes here are also a issue though :(.

C. HabboxLive Homeroom
I would also like to see a "homeroom" but Drewar's Party Suite or the Help Desk would suffice, as sort of a gathering place where listeners could gather together and chat. While it might be quite pathetic if there is no one else in the room, DJs could take some self-initiative to load up some clones to populate the room, but even without them, it is better than nothing. (Sometimes tagging the room with giveaway or shop would have visitors coming to the room) LMS here could help in terms of advertising and claimants for an on-air competition prize would also have a much easier life.

D. HabboxEvents
When all else fails, it would be good to actually attend an event, be it as a player, or just DJ from the VIP area. This will in turn populate the room and will draw crowds to the event, getting more people to tune in while they play. Listeners would also head on down to the event to play a game or two.

I think the HabboxLive numbers would steadily increase by itself as long as the DJs actually go on and advertise that they are on-air. More people would know Habbox and might be interested enough to sign up as a DJ, and the listener count itself would sway potential DJs. I mean, you wouldn't want to DJ to 2 unique listeners, would you?

Hope I didn't go out of point and sorry for bad grammar :P.

I agree with a fair amount of this, but some things I picked up on:

If a DJ is on air it's not always possible to go on Habbo, if they lag or disconnect a lot because of loading SAM, Skype and Habbo at the same time. However, I do believe there should be nothing stopping them going on even if it's 10 minutes before their slot, get people invited to the HabboxLive Party Room or the Help Desk and say tuned in for competitions, the event etc. On the other hand, I see where you're coming from when you say if they've done their minimum they don't have to go on Habbo, but why not? They should be advertising the department and not just their DJ time - I find this a little similar with competitions (which you should all enter at habbox.com/comps), we aren't allowed to advertise our own competitions without advertising the department as a whole too. I think this already happens as a lot of people just say tune into HabboxLive and ask people to apply for jobs stuff like that. It's plausible to do that way though, but I still think only going on when you DJ is a bit little too. Another thing I believe is that if you're streaming, then you shouldn't have to go on Habbo as there should be a reason why you're streaming surely? If you're streaming because you don't want to talk then don't stream and stop being lazy (a generalisation here). When I was AGM there was a Senior DJ who didn't like speaking on air therefore didn't and in the end he resigned, but it was unanimous with the HabboxLive Management at the time that this shouldn't be the case (I believe he got told of for it). So I guess there are some exemptions of why you might not always be on Habbo when you're DJing. I get where you're coming from though and I do agree to an extent!

The giveaway section - there's a HabboxLive Giveaway account that is generally used, it's usually funded by HabboxLive Management and whoever wants to donate to it (only Head or Senior plus, something like that has access to it). I think a lot of people would also help out with a giveaway especially since it can draw in a lot of listeners!

Empired
02-12-2014, 08:08 AM
Problem I see with yet another "home room" is that we're just thinly spreading users across different rooms. It would be better to pile everyone in the help desk/somewhere else because then other users can see that the room is popular and might want to come and have a look.

Edit: oh wait there is actually a little area in the current Help Desk for DJs to stand/dance or whatever. That could be put to good use.

Kyle
02-12-2014, 10:21 AM
an official habbox autogame (not just radio - every department) that PROMOTES habbox and has HABBOX elements is something that should be picked up on and pushed further.

giveaways only work if they are frequent and good. if you do 1 giveaway a week it will have zero impact so choose whether to do lots with a diverse range of furniture or opt for more conventional means of promotion through games, events, competitions and word of mouth.

Jazz
02-12-2014, 11:58 AM
To maybe add to the auto game/ room idea: Put it in someone's room who's reliable/no group room? Not trying to be mean but theres been many occasions where people (ex hx managers even ex agm) have helped/built rooms, dropped important stuff (eg wired) and then thrown hardcore super tantrums and picked it all up, essentially destroying the room. Maybe put it in an agms room and accept donations or give temp rights to help build or make a new account that only certain people have access to (like hxlgiveaway)

Bloop
02-12-2014, 12:22 PM
To maybe add to the auto game/ room idea: Put it in someone's room who's reliable/no group room? Not trying to be mean but theres been many occasions where people (ex hx managers even ex agm) have helped/built rooms, dropped important stuff (eg wired) and then thrown hardcore super tantrums and picked it all up, essentially destroying the room. Maybe put it in an agms room and accept donations or give temp rights to help build or make a new account that only certain people have access to (like hxlgiveaway)
I disagree. If my idea do get implemented an auto-game do have to be maintained, with new levels added, removed, changed regularly etc otherwise it will go stale. It would be much easier if its a group room so the agm won't have additional workload and stuff and their life would be much easier as they do not have to worry about the furniture/wiring blah blah. You do have a point there as the room has a possibility of being trashed, but I guess we have to trust our managers lmao :P.

oh and sam, I feel that DJs after having met their minimums are encouraged to go on habbo, but its not compulsory, as I think some people prefer DJing over Habbo, and forcing them to get on would take all the fun out of their hobby and force them to resign. Sounds over-exaggerated, but I reckon that's probably the reason don't get on Habbo but yet DJ :O. Samanfa;

Sho
02-12-2014, 12:56 PM
An autogame is something that I've been working on. Not for a particular department though, just something to draw attention to Habbox in general. I've asked a few people that I know have built some in the past but they're not interested or they tell me they'll get back to me and never do. My wired skills are very iffy so I don't trust myself to wire things unless I've done it before. It's something that's coming, though (and if you're interested in helping out with it let me know (a)).

Jazz
02-12-2014, 01:04 PM
I disagree. If my idea do get implemented an auto-game do have to be maintained, with new levels added, removed, changed regularly etc otherwise it will go stale. It would be much easier if its a group room so the agm won't have additional workload and stuff and their life would be much easier as they do not have to worry about the furniture/wiring blah blah. You do have a point there as the room has a possibility of being trashed, but I guess we have to trust our managers lmao :P.

oh and sam, I feel that DJs after having met their minimums are encouraged to go on habbo, but its not compulsory, as I think some people prefer DJing over Habbo, and forcing them to get on would take all the fun out of their hobby and force them to resign. Sounds over-exaggerated, but I reckon that's probably the reason don't get on Habbo but yet DJ :O. @Samanfa (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=68263);

My point was that only certain people, trusted people should be given permissions to edit the room. I know this sounds like im pointing the obvious but theres been past events where people have been allowed to add wired blocks in or important furni and they then resign 2 weeks later and pick it all up. I'm not saying AGM's should do it all, and the no group rooms are a long winded suggestion :P

Kyle
02-12-2014, 02:48 PM
The game would need thought. It would need Input from departments and the community, itwould need a revenue (fp/revive) and it would ,most importantly, need an incentive to participate MULTIPLE TIMES. Rebuilding, desirable prize (forum VIP 10c an 35 tokens isn't goin to cut it) and solid organisation and communication are all required. No jungles, Disney, rainbows or Mario -- HABBOX. An auto game is not only there as a product of habbox, it is there as an important advertising tool to those tat go to it and those that see it in the navigator. The habbox brand is dying in events and competitions particularly recently because of this oversight - including things like having less or no habbox themed questions in snq, putting little effort into fansite events so they pail in comparison to others, to even simple things like the omission of habbox roles in mottos.

I realise that this thread is directed at the radio and normally I would make a thread of my own but I can't compose 1 cos my internet is down so sorry for derailing onto larger scale issues but pls do read the points that aren't about the radio and try to work onwards both applying them to your department and working on Long term fixes.

Habboxlive is currently the advertising tool with the most use and ideas need to be employed to get more from it. Stop falling back on administration and bring something to the table with substance or habboxlive and habbo will die


~~from phone

Jssy
02-12-2014, 03:35 PM
Out of plain curiosity, I just went through all Head, Senior + Normal (not guest) djs to find out their last Habbo login date. I would understand if someone hasn't logged in for a few days, but some of these people are just...

Head DJs
Jess / Jssy - 5 days ago
Kimmy / Ripieno - 14 hours ago
Kitty / XxZammyXx - 9 hours ago
Woody / WoodyLFC.2k7 - 14 days ago

Senior
Bethy / KrazyBethw - 16 hours ago
Collegno / Collegno - 20 hours ago

All other staff except guests
Katarune / dealerboy-1 - 24 days ago
Rachel / Rachel_137 - 38 days ago
River / Scumper - 47 days ago
Tay / .:TaylorSwift: - 6 hours ago
Undead / UndeadDevilHD - 16 hours ago
Wubing / Wubing - 16 hours ago
Tashy / DjTashyBackUp - 4 days ago
Callum / cal296 - 60 hours ago
Firefox / Ailurus - 16 hours ago
Hurricane / Shockwave.2CC - 9 hours ago
Power / Chloe7355 - 62 hours ago
Aroonie / arunan29 - 15 hours ago
Jordan / KeillerIsBanned - appearing offline, but ik he comes on a lot
Small / Josh0202 - 8 days ago (i know he isn't away either as he was just DJing)
Woodsy / lesbon - 77 minutes ago


It might seem like I'm attacking certain people, but it is absolutely unacceptable to be a staff member for a HABBO fansite and have not logged into HABBo for over a month and a half.......... Woody is the only one in red who can be excused if he is posted away ( i obviously don't know) because you are only allowed three weeks maximum to be off.

If you add together every one of those and get an average (rounded lesbon's down to an hour and converted days into hours + didn't count keiller) dj last login of; 181 hours ago OR about just over a week ago. Obviously the people who haven't logged in for excess of 20 days are going to throw the average way off, but it just shows you how bad the situation is...
I am usually on habbo as I'm DJ and events but my grandad just died so im on limited activity cos I've been with family. I haven't been able to bring myself to eat never mind habbo so I applogise

Sent from my XT1021 using Tapatalk

Danny
02-12-2014, 04:12 PM
Some of the posts on here are ridic.

Grig
02-12-2014, 05:02 PM
Well HabboxLive was never about saying "get your friends tuned in". When HxL was at it's peak, it was there partially because of the climate at the time and Habbox' popularity and great policies, but because us DJs were always on Habbo in a show, either in a party room, starting some fun mini game that was linked to both client and radio and so forth. Now complacency means people don't go onto Habbo and much and I haven't visited Habbox for months, I suspect it's at a stretch that DJs even go into the help desk anymore at the very lest.

As for the topic of perm shows, I was always a firm believer and pushed out as many as possible and we did start having a good mix at the start of the year, but it still needed work. My ultimate aim was to deliver a perm show that people can actually look forward to every week, rather than something that is sub-par, which has been the case too much in the past few years. I would ideally have had one perm show at the very least 4/7 days on UK primetime with Tuesday and Thursday not having any due to logistical and staffing issues, as well as the need to keep quality top-noth and 2/3ish perm shows on international times with possible re-runs of any big shows that had happened during UK primetimes. We started that and James built on that and it was looking that we could achieve it (when I was lat at HxL) by summer, but it seems to have gone in the opposite direction now.

Now, back at the start of the year this would have been very plausable with the staffing numbers and this is what really shocks me. How come the numbers are so low, they've practically depleted to the point of last summer when HxL was in a mess. I don't know whether it is in a mess now because like I said this is my first visit in months and I do personally hope it's not. Right now, HR would be a priority I would say, because without sufficient staff who are motivated to stay like myself and James used to try do, then it's a lost cause.

Richie
02-12-2014, 10:24 PM
@IzzyUhh (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=116751);

unrelated but i found a bkup that might help ppl experiencing problems with samb, I made this (http://cublix.com/samb) years ago to help out djs, some links are dead / contact form isn't in use as i only bked it up but ye

if anyone needs help with samb drop me a pm as ive wasted far too much time on it yrs ago to let any useless knowledge i have go to waste lol

IzzyUhh
02-12-2014, 10:26 PM
IzzyUhh;

dunno if this is any help for the hxl department but i found this backup (http://cublix.com/samb) i made years ago to help out presenters

if anyone needs help with samb lemme know and i'll try sort a guide and chuck it up on tht link :Thumbs-Up:
That'd be very helpful actually especially for trialists, Thanks if you can!

FlyingJesus
03-12-2014, 12:53 AM
Tune in in about 7 minutes to see what an interactive and enthusiastic show should be like courtesy of Drewar

Barkseh
03-12-2014, 01:21 AM
One has taken your advice and is now sat at 01:20AM listening to Britney Spears - Toxic?! Ha... Not good mate!


Tune in in about 7 minutes to see what an interactive and enthusiastic show should be like courtesy of Drewar

- - - Updated - - -

Yet I'm still listening.. Haha *secret Britney fan*


One has taken your advice and is now sat at 01:20AM listening to Britney Spears - Toxic?! Ha... Not good mate!

FlyingJesus
03-12-2014, 01:25 AM
Paul you love it :D what are you doing here anyway

Samantha
03-12-2014, 01:25 AM
Drewar; is what we need more of - he makes it more interesting to tune in (like a few of the current DJs) :P.

Barkseh
03-12-2014, 01:32 AM
I'm up with my baby. Needs feeding every four hours. When I try to get back to sleep it just doesn't happen so I usually just stay up :P.


Paul you love it :D what are you doing here anyway

Drewar
03-12-2014, 02:27 AM
Drewar; is what we need more of - he makes it more interesting to tune in (like a few of the current DJs) :P.

Thank you! :) My secret is that I actually enjoy DJing. I do it because I want to have fun and be entertaining. It's fun to open up Habbo and invite everyone to my room and summarize on air what everyone is talking about in the party room.

I think that a lot of DJs forget that we are here to have fun. People take it way too seriously, and in doing so, it takes the fun out of the whole process.

Sign on, play some songs, mix in some discussion topics (Habbo, Habbox, current IRL events, etc), and the hour will fly by.

I think that listeners can really tell the difference between a DJ who is DJing because they truly want to and between a DJ who is doing it simply to meet their minimums. If you're only in it to meet the minimums... why even bother? Do yourself a favor and resign from your role and use those "minimum" hours to do something you actually enjoy instead.

I plan on posting a more in-depth response to some of the posts in this thread within the next day or so.

Danny
06-12-2014, 02:16 AM
I am so glad HabboxLive is already changing for the better, I am happy with all the changes so far, however i'm going to remark on people's attitudes within the department, it seems there is alot of ill feeling whenever somebody gets promoted. It is NOT NICE to see and if people really feel that way I think it's better for them to keep it too themselves, if you do it publicaly, you are more less likely to end up with a higher role than one you already have and will just turn people against you. This is my view from what i've seen of late, I really hope this gets stomped out soon!

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