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26-01-2015, 01:10 PM
Is it ethical to bring back extinct species of aninal or plant?


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Increasingly in the scientific community there has been talk of bringing back the Mammoth which experts are more and more keen on trying considering how well preserved Mammoth DNA has been found in frozen specimens in the Siberian wilderness: meaning that it may be possible to implant the Mammoth into the womb of a mother elephant thus bringing the species largely back into existence using a close relative (the Elephant). Whilst this may be harder for other animals such as the Dodo which are not as well preserved due to warmer climates and which have no close living relatives as similar as Mammoths and Elephants are, with scientific advances it is more and more likely that it will be possible to bring back animals that used to walk this Earth just from their fossils or bones.

But is this ethical? Should mankind seek to influence nature in such an unnatural way considering the changes bringing back species can have? For example, with the extinction of the Mammoth across Russia and Siberia, this allowed for the growth of birch forests which is thought to have led to a cooler climate as a result. Others would also say that reviving animals and plants long gone messes with the natural order, and that animals like Mammoths were going extinct naturally anyway as they were failing to adapt to changes on the Earth.

Do you think it ethical? Do you think it should be restricted to research captivity only? Do you think some species should be carefully reintroduced to the wild?


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Lewis
26-01-2015, 04:39 PM
There's nothing wrong with it in my opinion, as long as they aren't bringing back anything that could be a threat to us. It'd be good to bring back some for scientific study, not just mass-producing them although there's still nothing wrong with that as long as it's safe enough.

Oh and as long as it's not bringing back some sort of extinct spider or something similar. That would be terrible. :(

FlyingJesus
26-01-2015, 04:56 PM
It'd be fairly pointless and no doubt upset the ecosystem so would only be a viable option for animals that can be kept in captivity, so that's where the real ethics of the situation would lie in my opinion. I have no problem personally with DNA experiments but I imagine there would be quite some opposition to breeding/creating an entire species purely for existence in captivity.

Also interesting that you mentioned the dodo, this isn't really related but apparently no-one actually knows what a dodo properly looks/looked like because every single last one of them was eaten out of existence and the only preserved body (which was only partially complete anyway) got destroyed in a fire with only the skull remaining in 1755... so any pictures of its body are complete fabrications :P

GommeInc
26-01-2015, 11:27 PM
It really depends how and why they went extinct. Mammoths are pointless as they're not designed for this climate, as are some plants which died off due to changes in their previous environments. If they were hunted and killed off by man then may be it will be fine to try and bring them back - but that really depends on if the environment is suitable for them or if they are even needed as evolution usually finds a way of replacing what has been removed.

That said, it will have to be a perfect re-creation of the animals or plants as no doubt there would be some sort of issue that arises - especially the birth problem where they die almost instantly or finding a way for them to reproduce. I think there was a story of a goat that died shortly after being born.

Landon
28-01-2015, 12:34 AM
It's a hot and talked about topic, don't get me wrong. I agree with a some of the comments listed above. I agree in saying that confinement should be the ideal place for study, as yes, this could mess with the environment and ecosystem. We don't want other extinctions. As long is it's not dinosaurs or extremely large lizards, I'm coolio with that. :P

Joe
30-01-2015, 03:10 PM
Yes, personally I reckon it will be a huge step in technology and science, however I can see too many risks alongside them. For example, all science enters into the wrong hands and that's impossible to stop and, without sounding too childish and being completely hypothetical, I can see something like Jurassic Park being tried and it will obviously fail. Even though this science, especially for things like dinosaurs, is a long way off, they will become huge risks to humans so I hope it doesn't come to that.

The more I think about it, actually, the more I dislike the idea. Taking on the example of the Mammoth, I bet as soon as they get it right and have a real life mammoth standing in front of them, the zoo's will go absolutely mad and start buying more and more of them until the only ones being bred are for captivity and that, although protecting endangered species, is completely unethical.

I'm stuck.

Reality
30-01-2015, 09:04 PM
They haven't survived for a reason how do scientists think mammoth's are therefore; going to survive in the current words climate? Adaptation has evolved a lot since the mammoth and bringing them back would only be wrong as they'd not of adapted to the current world. In all honest I do not see anything wrong with it but only if it was a species that is able to survive in the current world climate.

karter
04-02-2015, 12:07 PM
No specie would be remotely considered a threat to any ecosystem than humans currently are. I agree that specie reintroduction could upset the ecosystem chains but that will not be comparable to what urban contact or alien species introduction can do to an ecosystem. Actually I highly doubt there will be a significant change in an ecosystem if a non-predator is introduced in low numbers i.e Stellar's sea cow.

But dodo for example, if reintroduced in Mauritius (which is already dealing with vegetation loss and deforestation due to agri-expansion) could accelerate the extinction of other species (non vertebrates) and even birds because of food and habitat competition. But then again there are examples of predator species whose introduction could actually prove to be good..like Barbary lion which could help and reduce over-grazing in sub-Sahara.

Anyway... I think.. humans should just concentrate more on conservation and not restricting any reintroductions currently. I haven't even seen one happening yet, except the mouth brooding frog in Australia. (what happened to it i wonder)

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Just found out that the mouth brooding frog could not survive and it's extinction was in fact caused by humans, so... sad. I guess.

velvet
06-02-2015, 02:13 PM
no, we shouldn't.
we destroy habitats every day by cutting down forests and pumping chemicals into the air. at the moment our eco-system is incredibly fragile with lions, tigers and bears expected to be extinct in the wild within the next 50 years (which will have a huge knock-on effect on species further down the food chain), so we should be working to preserve the species we have.
we have already caused countless extinctions and as our population rises more will follow.

FlyingJesus
06-02-2015, 02:16 PM
lions, tigers and bears

Oh my!

velvet
06-02-2015, 02:20 PM
Oh my!

i was waiting for that :p

xxMATTGxx
09-02-2015, 03:44 PM
I think it would be pretty interesting to see if they could actually bring back a Mammoth or something. It kinda reminds me of Jurassic Park in a way and we all know what happens in those films. Hell, look at he upcoming one where they create a hybrid :P

James
19-02-2015, 08:48 PM
Is it ethical to bring back extinct species of aninal or plant?


It'd certainly be interesting, but it's definitely not unethical in my opinion. As long as they keep it under control.

MilksAreUs
01-03-2015, 01:21 AM
Of course it is. It gives us an understanding of how the animals used to live/breed/eat etc and also gives us the enjoyment of having them back on the Earth. Scientists will also be able to get a more accurate sight of the animal rather than guessing how it lived from a dead thing which died 10,000 years ago.

karter
02-03-2015, 07:11 PM
ALSO i am so tired of everything being measured according to human consumption like conservation and environmental ethics are so crap because evrything is restricted around productivity and what not. i wish humans just die off honestly :( :( spare mother nature

Bobozia
07-03-2015, 10:18 AM
I agree that bringing the animals back would allow for scientists to closer to study and understand them, however, they wouldn't be able to. Climates and animal communications have changed in the last 200 years, let alone 10,000 years. As such, the way an animal behaves in today's would simply not mirror that of an animal pre-extinction.
Also, in terms of bringing back the animals that humans kill, it is important to remember that we are still animals, and so technically us killing/poaching them should be classed as part of the animal communication of dominance. This means that us bringing them back would actually disrupt the evolutionary scale more than leaving them dead would be.
I really liked an earlier comment about them being bred for zoos.This is possibly the only place that an animal from pre-historic times would be able to survive due to not being able to cope with current climates in where they used to live, as well being the only way to keep them out of danger's reach of animals which now have them in their food chains. Evolution means there are now animals roaming this Earth that were not around when the mammoth or other such animals existed. We can make guesses at where they would fit in on the food chain, but you can never be absolutely certain. This could lead to a situation where every animal that is brought back is starlight away chased and eaten by a predator higher up the food chain.
It is for the aforementioned that we should nor bring back extinct animals, however much our curiosity wants us to

Explorator
08-03-2015, 12:01 AM
I'd say it is.

It's not doing any harm to anyone really. Well, apart from maybe the animal.

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