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Brad
05-02-2015, 09:31 PM
http://habbox.com/assets/images//2014/12/30/32bb7e9d48c30d6b4aa07da8fdc9d3be.gif

I have been getting statistics sent to me via Email every week and this one caught me by surprise, but I have to admit that I can definitely understand where this is coming from.
So below is a chart of the drug-related deaths in England & Wales.

http://habbox.com/staffupload/../assets/images//2015/02/05/ab80164d08f628aae1c7a660b65ee34c.jpg

This chart is backed by Statista (http://www.statista.com/chart/3190/these-drugs-are-all-deadlier-than-cannabis/).
If you are wondering what Cannabis is;

Cannabis
Cannabis is a genus of flowering plants that includes three different species, Cannabis sativa, Cannabis indica and Cannabis ruderalis. These species are indigenous to Central and South Asia. Cannabis has long been used for hemp fibre, for seed and seed oils, for medicinal purposes, and as a recreational drug. Industrial hemp products are made from Cannabis plants selected to produce an abundance of fiber. To satisfy the UN Narcotics Convention, some Cannabis strains have been bred to produce minimal levels of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the principal psychoactive constituent responsible for the high associated with it and which is obtained through the dried flowers of Cannabis plants selectively bred to produce high levels of THC and other psychoactive cannabinoids. Various extracts including hashish and hash oil are also produced from the plant.

What I'd like to know is why we focus so much on the negative when it comes to illegal drugs, as opposed to the negatives on legal drugs. Now, before I begin; Tobacco companies are now obligated to put equal amount of money in advertising the cons of smoking as they do in promoting smoking. (At least from what it is in Canada).

What are your thoughts on this chart? Do you think this depicts the real killer in drug usage?

Do you do any of the drugs above? By looking at this chart, is there a potential in either quitting one of the drugs, or maybe taking up on the drug?

scottish
05-02-2015, 11:22 PM
It's not surprising.

The top 3 are legal, obviously it's going to have more users than the rest. People smoke and drink a lot more than they do cocaine, etc.

I don't take any, don't like any and subsequently have no interest in stopping any (and definitely not taking up any)

Alkaz
05-02-2015, 11:29 PM
People smoke and drink a lot more than they do cocaine, etc.
Exactly so the figures are pretty misleading to be honest. People normally start taking cannabis and then move onto harder, more damaging drugs like cocaine when they aren't getting the buzz from the cannabis. Cannabis may not cause that many deaths but it definitely does have a major impact on your mental health if it's smoked over a prolonged period of time. So although it may not cause deaths it certainly does mess with peoples health a lot more than any of these kind of statistics show.

David
05-02-2015, 11:45 PM
yeah 2 of em

also gotta agree with scott

Joe
06-02-2015, 01:41 AM
How do you die from cannabis? I thought it was seen as one of the safest drugs.

Apart from having the odd drink, I too do none of them. I used to smoke now and then socially but realised it's a stupid habit so I don't do that anymore either.

Kyle
06-02-2015, 02:14 AM
Always gotta be that one idiot that takes one too many marijuanas and dies

I'm sure all drugs can affect mental health or cause cancer or hat we when taken in high dosages or over prolonged periods. I have take all drugs on that info graphic aside from cocaine and heroine and would do so again should the desire and opportunity arise again. Gna die either way and don't like the idea of restricting my enjoyment and experience because of fear that doesn't even apply to me.


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Joe
06-02-2015, 02:18 AM
Kyle; yeah the mental side of it could lead to death i guess, didn't think of it that way

Brad
06-02-2015, 03:56 AM
Yeah, not that I agree with the stats.. but I kind of do.. and yeah- I would honestly hate to be that one person to actually die from marijuana.. I'm not entirely sure how you could.. You'd just get stoned out of your mind, and then... But being stone just peaks, so you can never get more stoned than stoned.

Unless I am wrong on that part. Someone with more knowledge on it can enlighten me on it.

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And to add; I'm surprised that Prescription Pain killers is actually that low to be honest... Codeine is one of the biggest pain killers people end up being addicted on, and there are a lot of people who are actually addicted to it and end up overdosing on that..

Stephen
06-02-2015, 05:00 PM
gotta remember that you know what you're getting with alcohol, tobacco and prescription drugs

heroin and so many other illegal drugs are cut to pieces.. batches are stronger than other batches, addicts relapsing and taking mega doses of unknown purity or mixing depressants with depressants. Pharmaceutical grade heroin is pretty safe(obvs minus the addiction)

anyway I've always thought it was obvious that tobacco and alcohol were the worst drugs which is what I find annoying about most people who are anti-drug who then go out on a saturday night to get pissed

dbgtz
06-02-2015, 07:15 PM
Meaningless statistics without knowing how many people used it in the time period covered. Anyway, I have had/tried 4 on the list.

Brad
06-02-2015, 07:26 PM
Well we do know that there was at least 89,808 people in this study. They wouldn't add in any other death because it doesn't pretain to the statistic.

And this was an annual count... So it was the most current statistic that they could get (as noted in the picture)

scottish
06-02-2015, 08:18 PM
it's still irrelevant.

there's nothing stating how many people are actively using either of them, so out of 79,700 deaths due to smoking, maybe there's 50 million people smoking and only 0.16% have died, and maybe only 1000 people use heroin and so 76.5% of heroin users have died..

obviously those are completely inaccurate figures but that's the point. you have no idea how many people actively use any so okay it looks like tons died due to smoking,but there's probably over 100x more smokers than there is heroin users.

it's all relative and the full statistics aren't given, so it's useless.

Brad
06-02-2015, 09:47 PM
I'm pretty sure the graph is showing the amount of deaths from drugs (both legal & illegal) in a given year.. So those numbers are based upon the total amount of deaths in the year that was related to a drug.

There is relevance for it...

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