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-:Undertaker:-
09-02-2015, 12:14 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11398967/Huge-crowd-of-Muslim-protesters-picket-Downing-Street-to-protest-at-Charlie-Hebdo-cartoons.html

Huge crowd of Muslim protesters picket Downing Street to protest at Charlie Hebdo cartoons

The protesters, many of whom were divided into groups of men and women, and included children, gathered just yards from the Cenotaph


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The protest was organised by the Muslim Action Forum, which said that the Charlie Hebdo cartoons had helped “sow the seeds of hatred”


At least 1,000 Muslim protesters gathered outside the gates of Downing Street to protest against the depictions of the Prophet Mohammed in Charlie Hebdo, the French satirical magazine.

The protestors, many of whom were divided into groups of men and women, gathered just yards from the Cenotaph which remembers Britain’s war dead, and blocked half of Whitehall as they demonstated.

It comes weeks after two terrorists attacked the offices of Charlie Hebdo, the Paris-based satirical magazine which had published images of the Prophet Muhammad, killing 12 staff and wounding 11 others.


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The protesters are photographed in front of Downing Street


The protest was organised by the Muslim Action Forum, which said that the Charlie Hebdo cartoons had helped “sow the seeds of hatred” and had damaged community relations.

One young child, who appeared to be under the age of 10, stood next to a placard displaying the message: “Charlie and the abuse factory”.

A series of Muslim leaders addressed the crowd from a platform outside the Ministry of Defence, with the message “Be careful with Muhammad”.

The meeting was organised by the Muslim Action Forum, which was handing out leaflets about the demonstration on Whitehall.

The leaflet said: “The recent re-publishing of the cartoons, caricatures and depictions of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) by Charlie Hebdo magazine and other publishers is a stark reminder that freedom of speech if regularly utilised to insult personalities that others consider sacred.

“Such actions are deliberating insulting and provoking to Muslims worldwide as British citizens, we believe that these publications will continue to ‘sow the seeds of hatred’ and damage community relations.

“In an already fragile world we need to move from actions of incitement, hatred and provocation to civility, consideration and respect.”

In an apparent reference to the attacks on Charlie Hebdo magazine the leaflet added that “regrettably some Muslims” had “taken the un-Islamic path of human destruction”.

It added: “The vast majority of Muslims worldwide shall not denigrate their historical and current values by reciprocating hatred.

“Muslims shall call upon their deep spiritual strength and take the moral high ground by inviting the world to civility in any form of expression, dialogue, discourse and debate.”

The Forum delivered a petition to 10 Downing Street signed by over 100,000 British Muslims to highlight the view that the majority of Muslims worldwide call for 'Global Civility' rather than destruction of human life.

The group also expressed "deep regret" at the Paris terror attacks, which included a massacre at Charlie Hebdo, saying they were a "violation of Islamic law".

Shaykh Tauqir Ishaq, a senior spokesman for the Forum, said "Perpetual mistakes by extremists, either by cold-blooded killers or uncivilised expressionists, cannot be the way forward for a civilised society.

"The peace-loving majority of people must become vociferous in promoting global civility and responsible debate. At this time of heightened tension and emotion, it is crucial that both sides show restraint to prevent further incidents of this nature occurring."

Shaykh Noor Siddiqi, another Forum representative, said "The actions of the UK media in not publishing the cartoons is highly appreciated by British Muslims and we hope that this kind of self-restraint and mutual respect will ultimately lead to a harmonious society."

Across the street on Whitehall a handful of counter demonstrators holding a Britain First banner gathered. Scotland Yard said it was not aware of any arrests during the protest.

It's lovely though isn't it this protest? It goes to show what being an enriched, multicultural and diverse country has done for us because it's just so wonderful and although I can't name a reason as to why it's oh so wonderful and better than it used to be but that's just what we keep getting told so it must be true, AND it's deffo worth it even if we have to throw those nasty, white, patriarchical, western ideas like Freedom of Speech out of the window. Don't you agree comrades? Because we've got to show tolerance and respect to alien ideas even if it means trampling on our own heritage, values and principles. Remember, as the liberal left we've got to erase any self-guilt and hatred we have ourselves and we'll show it like this.

And beneath all the nice language about respect in the article which is aimed at the stupid liberal 'kafirs', think about what the message being put forward here really means. They're demanding that their holy figure and their holy book become protected by law from criticism or mockery. Think about that.

Thoughts?

FlyingJesus
09-02-2015, 12:39 AM
Bunch of people who don't really know what Charlie Hebdo is about and are simply following what they're told without thought clearly, I'm pretty sure that what helped "sow the seeds of hatred" was the wanton murder of cartoonists not drawing a picture that is actually staunchly anti-racist...

Interesting that you mention freedom of speech while making a post suggesting that certain things shouldn't be allowed though lol congrats on that. The best way to show displeasure with certain views is to have them allowed out in public for public humiliation, not to ban them from happening at all

-:Undertaker:-
09-02-2015, 12:47 AM
Bunch of people who don't really know what Charlie Hebdo is about and are simply following what they're told without thought clearly, I'm pretty sure that what helped "sow the seeds of hatred" was the wanton murder of cartoonists not drawing a picture that is actually staunchly anti-racist...

Interesting that you mention freedom of speech while making a post suggesting that certain things shouldn't be allowed though lol congrats on that. The best way to show displeasure with certain views is to have them allowed out in public for public humiliation, not to ban them from happening at all

Where did I do that?

FlyingJesus
09-02-2015, 02:40 AM
"Because we've got to show tolerance and respect to alien ideas even if it means trampling on our own heritage, values and principles" suggesting that you think allowing protests that don't support things that you like is a bad thing. This is a story about people stating their opinions, and no matter how misguided they are that's all that's happening; we're not losing our country or catering to terrorists and there's absolutely no indication of anything like that, it's just another group who don't like fact-checking taking to the streets like we have pretty much every week all over the country

GommeInc
09-02-2015, 09:50 PM
I'm fascinated by the fact the attack on the Charlie Hebdo building was an act of love and compassion. If you disagree with the comic and suggest it is sowing the "seeds of hatred" then don't spread the manure and water those seeds to make hatred bloom, and those attacks and the support on them seems to be just that.

Good on them for protesting and showing that freedom of speech is alive, it's just a shame the irony is lost on them.

-:Undertaker:-
10-02-2015, 08:28 PM
"Because we've got to show tolerance and respect to alien ideas even if it means trampling on our own heritage, values and principles" suggesting that you think allowing protests that don't support things that you like is a bad thing. This is a story about people stating their opinions, and no matter how misguided they are that's all that's happening; we're not losing our country or catering to terrorists and there's absolutely no indication of anything like that, it's just another group who don't like fact-checking taking to the streets like we have pretty much every week all over the country

No I just wouldn't alllow there to be a sizable un-integated party of British society to exist in the first place, by limiting immigration. Nor would I cater to the un-integrated by printing forms in different languages, have the Police turn a blind eye to FGM/child sex abuse and so on. In other words, one people and one law.

It's that simple really.

FlyingJesus
10-02-2015, 09:18 PM
Because y'know, in countries where the majority is of one faith or where immigration is strict, no crime exists and everyone holds the exact same views forever and ever amen

Give me an example of a time in British history where there was no civil unrest or difference of political ideals

-:Undertaker:-
11-02-2015, 07:18 PM
Because y'know, in countries where the majority is of one faith or where immigration is strict, no crime exists and everyone holds the exact same views forever and ever amen

Give me an example of a time in British history where there was no civil unrest or difference of political ideals

The past few hundred years? That's a start.

It's common knowledge around the world that hegemonic countries are most stable and prosperous. Or do you deny this?

FlyingJesus
11-02-2015, 10:11 PM
You genuinely believe that everyone holds the same political ideals in the UK? The place where televised debates have been widened to include newer and more diverse political parties and where literally no-one can agree on anything even within their own party? And you don't think that women's suffrage, the abolition of child labour, the abolition of slavery, and the creation of equality laws made with the specific intention of changing the country's values and culture are things that have happened in the past few hundreds years? Nope, no civil unrest here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_riots_in_London)

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