Awkward Ed Miliband meets a working class voter

[-:Undertaker:-]

http://order-order.com/2015/02/19/awkward-ed-meets-a-voter/

Awkward Ed Miliband meets a working class voter



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDwFM1iIFEg


This afternoon Ed met Peter Baldwin, an electrician from Lancashire working for BAE:


“At this moment in time I don’t feel like voting Labour. This morning we sat over there, the workers, and they’re all leaning now towards UKIP. The question of everybody’s mind is the referendum. I know what you’re going to say, but the working class man in here wants to have a say.”

Fair to say he didn’t look convinced…

My God they're so out of place when they talk to people outside of London.

Sure my uncle works there too.


He was told straight out what was on the workers' minds and still dodged the issue of the referendum. Miliband is a classic slime ball politician who refuses to listen to what he is being told.


That working class man was the wrong sort for Labour. He actually works, he is white, from his tone he has actually thought about the political problems which he and his fellow workers face, was polite - unlike socialists who shout in people's faces - and knew damn well what kind of crap Ed was about to come up with. Another Mrs Duffy. Ignore the bigot eh Ed.

Thoughts? Does Ed Miliband or any of the Labour frontbench come across to you as at all connected with their electoral base?

[GommeInc]

Sounds about right that he doesn't listen. He got caught out talking about politics for mostly no reason despite being asked to talk about something different. I think a student asked him why he thought students weren't voting and if we should just trust non-political politicians and he said he was like that then listed every possible way a human being in politics could be a politician. Something like that at least. I just saw him on TV thinking what an imbecile he is and lost all hope for British politics.

[Firehorse]

The entire system is a goddamn mess right now.

Labour are just fools who got us into a big mess, seem to love mass immigration, and love to bribe people by throwing money at problems without necessarily solving those problems; like benefit scroungers and the NHS. Where the NHS is concerned, it isn't more money that's needed it's greater efficiency.

The Lib Dems have a reputation for breaking promises. Student fees remaining low, an EU referendum etc.

The conservatives have also built a reputation for lying. At the last general election they and the Lib Dems essentially both promised an EU referendum if they got into power, they BOTH got into power, and now Clegg has done a U-turn (or as the video I've embedded explains, was lying from the start), and Cameron is saying we'll only get the referendum if we vote for them AGAIN! Like anybody will believe that after they lied the first time.

So the pattern is clear, the Lib Dems and Conservatives essentially took power because a) Labour ****** it up badly and b) because the population wanted a referendum which they were offering people for their vote. At the same time UKIP was offering the same promise of a referendum but people chose the other parties because they were better established. Now it is clear to the public how these parties lied, UKIP has been gaining some ground.

UKIP are promising what a large proportion of the population want: tighter border controls and an exit from the EU. The problem though is they're not well established, and although a lot of the members who get bad press were previously in other established parties, the press never gave the same level of scrutiny to these same people when they were in the established parties. They also seem to have a lot of people who are in the party for the wrong reasons and who have their own ideas of what they want to happen, it's a bit of a free-for-all.

Then we have the Green Party, who want ZERO border controls for the UK, and for us to have no army at all. The Green Party are set to get more votes than they've ever had before because people are so disillusioned with the other parties. People often seem to assume their only agenda is to better the environment, but their agenda is a bit more dangerous than that.

I, like quite a lot of people, hate the choice we have. Do you vote for the main parties and end up with the same we've been putting up with? UKIP and not know what you're getting? Greens and completely destroy the UK as you know it?

I like the sentiment of UKIP: tighten border controls, vet who comes to the UK, allow people from all over the world to come here based on their ability exactly the same way as Australia does, and be able to control the numbers. Unfortunately so many in UKIP are quite plainly racist, and the controls I and many want to see are nothing to do with race, it's purely about the statistics. We have had a gigantic growth in population, yet no growth in critical services and infrastructure. Gigantic growth in demand for housing, yet relatively few homes are being built.

What I also hate is how nobody is talking about the other factors causing the housing crisis. It isn't just the increase in demand from immigration that has caused the stupid inflation (20 years ago doing the same job I do today on the equivalent wage of the day I could afford to buy a 2-bed flat in London, yet in today's world I would struggle to rent a studio), but the fact there are zero controls on investors.
Why has my local Labour council sold off the local library so 600 flats can be built? Surely to benefit the locals? Nope! Not ONE advert has been seen locally for these properties, but an advert for them was spotted on an Asian investor website. Why are homes which are absolutely essential being treated as a commodity? We need places to live yet cannot afford it, so why are the government standing by while this happens? A page needs to be taken from China's book, where property can only be purchased by Chinese citizens. People can buy swathes of property in London without even having set foot in the UK let along being a citizen, and their only agenda is to make profit out of the people unfortunate enough to have to put up with it.

I also visited a shared ownership scheme to see how viable it would be to purchase a studio or 1-bed flat. It is not viable to buy a 1-bed home on the "affordable housing" scheme unless you are earning a good £6,000 more than the average UK wage. A full time "living wage" falls short of this by at least £12,000. TLDR: "Affordable homes" are only affordable to people earning £32k+, and that is still cutting it fine.

When professionals like teachers need assistance to buy a small flat then something is seriously wrong.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DflG8mYUKM

[Becca]

Here's a few of the most ridiculous and stupid UKIP quotes for you to enjoy:


David Silvester, who called homosexuality a "spiritual disease", said: "Since the passage of the Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Act, the nation has been beset by serious storms and floods. One recent one caused the worst flooding for 60 years. The Christmas floods were the worst for 127 years. Is this just global warming or is there something more serious at work?"


Douglas Denny, of the Bognor Regis branch in West Sussex, said homosexuals have "leftie, neo-commie followers". He said: "I just wish they would keep their ­homosexual nature and practices to ­themselves and stop trying to ram it down my throat telling me they are 'normal' when they are not."


Nigel Farage, the Ukip leader said women with children were "worth less" than men in the financial sector. He claimed women with children were responsible for their own reduction in pay if they have children – because they take maternity leave and become less valuable to their businesses.


Bloom on the mourning after Diana’s death in 1997: "Weeping and bawling reminiscent of an Arab nation at a state funeral where the culture demands heart on sleeve behaviour on such occasions. That the British had come to this made me deeply embarrassed… I sincerely hope never to see the like of it again."


Farage after a no-show at an event in Wales, blaming immigration for his tardiness: "It took me six hours and 15 minutes to get here – it should have taken three-and-a-half to four. That is nothing to do with professionalism, what it does have to do with is a population that is going through the roof chiefly because of open-door immigration and the fact that the M4 is not as navigable as it used to be."


If you were in any doubt as to whether Ukip had well measured ideas and a firm grip on stats and figures Ukip peer Lord Pearson nails it… "The Muslims are breeding ten times faster than us… I don’t know at what point they reach such a number we are no longer able to resist the rest of their demands."


"Compulsory abortion when the foetus is detected as having Down’s, spina bifida or similar syndrome which, if it is born, could render the child a burden on the state as well as on the family."

have fun in may

[-:Undertaker:-]

Sigh, there's really no point trying to beat me in terms of quotes/gaffes when I can provide twenty LibLabCon much worse things for every silly Ukip quote.


Here's a few of the most ridiculous and stupid UKIP quotes for you to enjoy

They still make a lot more sense than the genius Ed Miliband's Climate Change Act which costs the country £20bn odd a year, don't you agree?

Then again, don't you vote Labour? Maybe Austin Mitchell MP had a point (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=821342)...


Bloom on the mourning after Diana’s death in 1997: "Weeping and bawling reminiscent of an Arab nation at a state funeral where the culture demands heart on sleeve behaviour on such occasions. That the British had come to this made me deeply embarrassed… I sincerely hope never to see the like of it again."

It was embarassing. I love the Royal Family but the reaction to the death of Diana, Princess of Wales was cringe-worthy and an international embarassment.

Did you just copy these quotes from a SWJ tumblr page without giving them any thought?

[Becca]

I don't understand what you mean by 'copying them without giving any thought' - I haven't commented on any of these quotes. I'm simply stating how stupid some of their ideologies are. I'm not fussed what other politicians are trying to get across.

I don't vote for anyone. If I HAD to vote it would probably be Labour. Don't ask me why, because I don't know. I'd rather a dog run this government than some of these parties, they are all full of **** and hardly follow any positive thing they ask for. 'Let's blame everything on immigration because we can't be bothered taking the blame for stuff lol'

[-:Undertaker:-]

I don't understand what you mean by 'copying them without giving any thought' - I haven't commented on any of these quotes. I'm simply stating how stupid some of their ideologies are. I'm not fussed what other politicians are trying to get across.

Because there's stupid things said/gaffes/things taken out of context with every party.


I don't vote for anyone. If I HAD to vote it would probably be Labour. Don't ask me why, because I don't know. I'd rather a dog run this government than some of these parties, they are all full of **** and hardly follow any positive thing they ask for.

Well we at least agree there. :P


'Let's blame everything on immigration because we can't be bothered taking the blame for stuff lol'

The British public rank mass immigration as one of their top concerns, not the political parties. Infact, it's the political parties - especially the Labour Party - who have ignored the majority of the public over it for years now, especially the working classes who are having their wages kept low by hundreds of thousands of low skilled workers being allowed in to undercut them. I thought the point in Labour was to defend the interests of the working classes?

[Becca]

yes because the current power is making life for the working class so good...
it's strange i really like reading up on politics but i despise the topic, i just feel like immigration has been overly used for a series of excuses for the majority of parties

it's hard to say what's going to happen in may but i know that my boyfriend is obsessed with labour and blah blah blah i wish he'd understand some of they don't say rather than the things that they go on about that is 'so good' i feel like my judgement for labour only benefits me being a student which is why if i was FORCED to vote it would be them (not necessarily now, but from previous policies they have introduced which the coalition government has abolished)

people who are ABLE should just stop being lazy and avoid depending on the welfare state rather than blaming their 'limited opportunities' on things irrelevant such as blaming other cultures for 'taking their jobs' when statistics show they just aren't arsed anyway (living in lancashire i see this way too often) but i do feel for the ones who are trying and that are being undercut