Immigration to Britain has not increased unemployment or reduced wages, study finds

[The Don]

Immigration to Britain has not increased unemployment or reduced wages, a major new study has concluded

http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article9775823.ece/alternates/w620/Immigration.jpg


Researchers at the London School of Economics looked at the levels of immigration to each of Britain’s counties, and compared it to the unemployment rate in the same area across the same period.

They found that there was no connection between how much immigration a county had seen between 2004 and 2012 and the area’s level of unemployment.

There was no correlation between the unemployment rate and the level of migration The study also looked at whether migrants coming to an area had led to a fall in wage levels and found no evidence that this was the case.

Many areas that saw huge increases in immigration had seen wages rise and unemployment fall, while many areas which had seen no immigration had suffered from falling wages and rises in employment.

On average, immigration had a neutral effect on the employment and wage rates – neither increasing nor decreasing them.

The economists also specifically whether lower-skilled workers had seen their wages impacted, and whether migration a rise in young people out of work or training.

These areas were examined because popular perception is that migrant workers compete with the young for low wage jobs.

They said they found “no evidence” that the young or low skilled had been impacted, and called for further researcher in why anti-immigrant perceptions were still prevalent despite the evidence.
Source: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/immigration-to-britain-has-not-increased-unemployment-or-reduced-wages-study-finds-10075047.html

How many studies will it take to prove that immigration isn't the massive mountain certain people would have you believe? Although I suspect the facts are irrelevant to those people.

Thoughts?

[-:Undertaker:-]

Tell that to the working classes who have had wages undercut during boom times.

In any case, immigration isn't all about economic impact it's more so about cultural and social impact in these areas.


How many studies will it take to prove that immigration isn't the massive mountain certain people would have you believe?

Yes it is.

It was only the other day that the Conservatives announced plans to build 200,000 houses by 2020 to address the housing shortage, ignoring the fact that net immigration is running at over 250,000 every year. How can you and fellow travellers claim it has no affect and everything is just fine? Delusional.

[The Don]

Tell that to the working classes who have had wages undercut during boom times.

In any case, immigration isn't all about economic impact it's more so about cultural and social impact in these areas.

At least try and pretend to have read the article.

And people talking a different language on the bus isn't a reasonable argument.

[-:Undertaker:-]

At least try and pretend to have read the article.

And people talking a different language on the bus isn't a reasonable argument.

Look hun, if you and the politicians love nobody in your area talking your own language, if you love schools where the children can't speak a word of English, if you love enriched areas where gang rapes take place and there's radicalisation: then please please please move into these areas. Or move abroad.

But don't throw the working classes into it and the public at large when we never asked for it.

[The Don]

Look hun, if you and the politicians love nobody in your area talking your own language, if you love schools where the children can't speak a word of English, if you love enriched areas where gang rapes take place and there's radicalisation: then please please please move into these areas. Or move abroad.

But don't throw the working classes into it and the public at large when we never asked for it.

Bit of a jump from people talking a foreign language to gang rapes, no?

[-:Undertaker:-]

Bit of a jump from people talking a foreign language to gang rapes, no?

It's all what you've brought on the British people with mass immigration and multiculturalism.

[The Don]

It's all what you've brought on the British people with mass immigration and multiculturalism.

Yes because Britain was crime free before we let all those bloody foreigners in!

[-:Undertaker:-]

Yes because Britain was crime free before we let all those bloody foreigners in!

We certainly didn't have thousands of English girls being passed around by Asian gangs whilst the authorities covered it up to not 'upset' followers of the RoP.

[The Don]

We certainly didn't have thousands of English girls being passed around by Asian gangs whilst the authorities covered it up to not 'upset' followers of the RoP.

We didn't have child grooming before asians came here?

[-:Undertaker:-]

We didn't have child grooming before asians came here?

I literally can't deal with this upside down thinking. It's the same kind of blinkered and warped thinking that allowed Rotherham to happen in the first place.


Last week, Denis MacShane, the former MP for Rotherham, admitted he might have not done enough about child sexual exploitation by Asian men in his constituency because he was a "Guardian-reading liberal leftie". MacShane, who resigned as an MP in 2012 over expenses fraud for which he was later jailed for six months, told the BBC he was never directly approached by anyone with allegations of child abuse during his 18 years as an MP.

Yet he "probably" didn't do as much as he could have done and should have "burrowed into" the issue, he said. "I think there was a culture of not wanting to rock the multicultural community boat, if I may put it like that."

You are Denis MacNoShame and I claim my five pounds.

[The Don]

I literally can't deal with this upside down thinking. It's the same kind of blinkered and warped thinking that allowed Rotherham to happen in the first place.



You are Denis MacNoShame and I claim my five pounds.

The only warped thought going on here is you thinking Britain was some sort of crime free utopia before we let Asians in or that child grooming is some sort of unique trait indigenous to those with brown skin. The fact that you're using the actions of a criminal minority to argue against immigration as a whole is laughable and highlights how warped your thought is.

[wixard]

posting so i remember to come back and read the fun later


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[-:Undertaker:-]

The only warped thought going on here is you thinking Britain was some sort of crime free utopia before we let Asians in or that child grooming is some sort of unique trait indigenous to those with brown skin. The fact that you're using the actions of a criminal minority to argue against immigration as a whole is laughable and highlights how warped your thought is.

Oh dear, still does not grasp the issue and instead goes down the usual "u a waycist" route.

It's in the culture where they view white, non-RoP girls as unclean trash hence why they can be abused and passed around dummy.


Edited by mdport. (Forum Super Moderator): Please respect all other forum members.

[The Don]

Oh dear, still does not grasp the issue and instead goes down the usual "u a waycist" route.

It's in the culture where they view white, non-RoP girls as unclean trash hence why they can be abused and passed around dummy.

Thats not what your post said, dummy. Try reading the words you write rather than changing the argument every time you're challenged on one of your stupid comments.

[AgnesIO]

Look hun, if you and the politicians love nobody in your area talking your own language, if you love schools where the children can't speak a word of English, if you love enriched areas where gang rapes take place and there's radicalisation: then please please please move into these areas. Or move abroad.

But don't throw the working classes into it and the public at large when we never asked for it.

The fact that people don't speak English when they start school shouldn't be a huge issue, you just need the backbone to enforce the tuition of it.


We certainly didn't have thousands of English girls being passed around by Asian gangs whilst the authorities covered it up to not 'upset' followers of the RoP.

Damn Jimmy Saville, Rolf Harris, Michael Salmon, Chris Denning, Max Clifford and Gary Glitter. Those pesky Asians.

[FlyingJesus]

It's in the culture where they view white, non-RoP girls as unclean trash

No it isn't, that's still just the criminals. Is it white British culture to rape and murder people regardless of their vital statistics? Because the criminals born here seem to think so - it's an issue of criminal mindset, not foreign culture. The huge majority of rapists genuinely believe that everyone would do it if they could get away with it, it's hardwired into their thinking no matter where they're from

Of course people are going to call you racist when you're being racist, making fun of the word doesn't make it not so... and congrats on completely ignoring the entire study that this thread is about because it doesn't fit with what you want to believe. Usual Dan tactics at work

[-:Undertaker:-]

Thats not what your post said, dummy. Try reading the words you write rather than changing the argument every time you're challenged on one of your stupid comments.


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The fact that people don't speak English when they start school shouldn't be a huge issue, you just need the backbone to enforce the tuition of it.

If you live in an area where you don't need to learn and use English then you won't, and this has been activity encouraged via multiculturalism rather than integration as well as the fact that sheer numbers coming in make integration almost impossible.

Restrict the numbers coming in and require and encourage integration, that is what I want and the vast majority.


Damn Jimmy Saville, Rolf Harris, Michael Salmon, Chris Denning, Max Clifford and Gary Glitter. Those pesky Asians.

I didn't realise BBC DJs were operating mass rape gangs in our inner towns and cities, how silly of me.

Again, this kind of upside down thinking is beyond reason.

If I could and had the magical power to do so, I would turn everybody who uses this dumb arse logic into a defenceless white girl and drop them into a RoP or one of those sort of countries with that kind of culture and let the reality of what the world is really like rather than what they would like it to be to be pounded into them in more ways than one.

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No it isn't, that's still just the criminals. Is it white British culture to rape and murder people regardless of their vital statistics? Because the criminals born here seem to think so - it's an issue of criminal mindset, not foreign culture. The huge majority of rapists genuinely believe that everyone would do it if they could get away with it, it's hardwired into their thinking no matter where they're from

Of course people are going to call you racist when you're being racist, making fun of the word doesn't make it not so... and congrats on completely ignoring the entire study that this thread is about because it doesn't fit with what you want to believe. Usual Dan tactics at work

Yeah if pointing out that Asian rape gangs have been allowed to abuse thousands of English girls for over a decade with our authorities purposely covering it up as to not been seen as racist.... is racist, then I guess I am a waycist. Better than ignoring the mass rape of English children in my world, although not yours.

[FlyingJesus]

You're again seeming to believe that English people don't commit crimes, I don't get it. Have you ever actually read a crime report?

And well done on (again) wishing rape and murder on people who disagree with your stupidity

[-:Undertaker:-]

You're again seeming to believe that English people don't commit crimes, I don't get it. Have you ever actually read a crime report?

Again with the stupid reasoning.

It was the exact same logic and reasoning that led to Rotherham being allowed to happen. Afraid of the the blunt truth and being called the R word.


And well done on (again) wishing rape and murder on people who disagree with your stupidity

If good enough for the children of the English working class, it's good enough for those who brought this problem on them and allowed it to happen.

[FlyingJesus]

I'll take that as a no, you haven't ever read a crime report. How on earth is "these are not the only criminals, stop pretending that they are" stupid reasoning that allowed people to carry on abusing children? As you keep on saying, that happened because no-one spoke up - nothing to do with noting that England was never a crime free paradise. You by your words and actions are literally allowing for the majority of abusers and attackers to feel safe and justified in what they're doing because they don't fit the minority profile that you want everyone to focus on

[-:Undertaker:-]

I'll take that as a no, you haven't ever read a crime report. How on earth is "these are not the only criminals, stop pretending that they are" stupid reasoning that allowed people to carry on abusing children? As you keep on saying, that happened because no-one spoke up - nothing to do with noting that England was never a crime free paradise. You by your words and actions are literally allowing for the majority of abusers and attackers to feel safe and justified in what they're doing because they don't fit the minority profile that you want everyone to focus on

So there's not a problem in northern towns and cities with Asian aka RoP rape gangs preying on white girls then.

Please inform the Prime Minister, Home Office, South Yorkshire Police and the author of the Jay Report Tom, you wonderful fountain of wisdom.

[FlyingJesus]

Literally no-one has said that

[-:Undertaker:-]

Ohhh I see. So what you are trying to really say then is that everything I, the Police and the official Jay Report have said about the problem of Asian aka RoP rape gangs targeting English girls in northern towns is perfectly true: just that it's not 'polite' and 'right on' or politically correct to say it how it is.

But you confuse me with a weak liberal man like yourself or Denis MacNoShame. I'll say it how it is because i'm not afraid of having the R word thrown at me.

And if only those girls had had someone like me with a bit of principle and backbone in a position of authority in their hour of need.

[FlyingJesus]

No what people are saying is that it's an issue of criminality, not of race. If it were a race issue then us limeys would be far more to blame and suspect. Try not being such an idiot in every post and you might be able to pick up on these very basic points

[-:Undertaker:-]

It isn't a race issue although the targeting of white girls is racial, it's a cultural issue hence the aka RoP references.

[FlyingJesus]

Criminal culture, yes

[-:Undertaker:-]

A culture that has many things which are criminal to our culture yes, like the sexual abuse of children and especially young girls.

[FlyingJesus]

And one that you're still trying to pin as "other" to the Great British chivalrous knight by switching words around, I see. Do you really believe that this is a foreign mentality rather than simply a violent human one?

[-:Undertaker:-]

And one that you're still trying to pin as "other" to the Great British chivalrous knight by switching words around, I see. Do you really believe that this is a foreign mentality rather than simply a violent human one?

Not all cultures are equal and in certain cultures violent human actions are regarded as acceptable or permissable.

In certain cultures, such as some we've imported into our country rather than not import them in the first place or integrate the people from them into our own, it is acceptable to abuse and have sex with children. It's acceptable to abuse non-believers. It's acceptable to use rape as a punishment.

[FlyingJesus]

Yes, those are called criminal cultures. They are not national or racial ones. Yemen is the only country in the world with no specific law against child abuse, and your odd belief that everyone who isn't white supports mass child rape is quite clearly untrue and (you'll love this) highly racist. What you're doing is spreading hateful lies, pure and simple

[-:Undertaker:-]

Yes, those are called criminal cultures. They are not national or racial ones. Yemen is the only country in the world with no specific law against child abuse

You're (purposely?) confusing law with morality and attitudes amongst people in a given culture.

Culture doesn't always reflect national borders either.


and your odd belief that everyone who isn't white supports mass child rape is quite clearly untrue and (you'll love this) highly racist.

Again completely unable to debate.


What you're doing is spreading hateful lies, pure and simple

So Asian gangs now aren't operating in northern cities and town on a large scale with the authorities too scared to act because of PC concerns?

[FlyingJesus]

You're (purposely?) confusing law with morality and attitudes amongst people in a given culture.

Culture doesn't always reflect national borders either.

And you're purposely confusing national and racial culture with that of criminals


Again completely unable to debate.

I apologise if you don't like hearing the actual truth (you know, not the things you make up seemingly for fun) but you do win points for most ironic statement of the decade


So Asian gangs now aren't operating in northern cities and town on a large scale with the authorities too scared to act because of PC concerns?

Have already said that this has happened, many times. That is not what was being discussed just now and you know it... or you should anyway, if you do this very special trick called reading. Yes, there are gangs of Asian men committing crimes. No, they are not doing it because they are foreign. Very simple.