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scottish
24-03-2015, 12:11 AM
Hello,
I'm bored so I thought I'd post some feedback regarding events (and obviously making a feedback thread makes Yet; panic so it's more entertaining).
I'm just going to ramble on with whatever comes to my head as I have no idea what I was going to put in this again.. so expect it to be all over the place.
First of all this silly thing that allows every staff member to host an event regardless of what department they are in, get rid of it. I assume it was brought about due to lack of events/staff but it's really a stupid scheme if you want to actually have a department with staff.
If you turned around and said 'okay any staff can go behind the help desk and assist users' then lets be honest Help Desk would be a pointless department.. the staff numbers would drop as it's essentially why bother join a department when I can do the job without necessarily being staff and I don't have to do 5 (?) hours a week.
I can understand the ability for staff to host events (rarely) as part of some competition, for example Habbox Summer Spectacular or even smaller competitions that are held within departments, but having the ability for any staff member to host events basically defeats the purpose of having an events department.
From what I've noticed there's no difference in non-EO's hosting events so is there any need? (I know this can be counter-argued but yeah)
Lets sum it up;
+ EO's get funding
- Events Department is obsolete, and staff/apps are pointless
- People who want to be an EO are less inclined as they can do it without applying
- People can ignore minimums
Another thing that I think needs to go is the guest rank. What's the point in it?
In reality a 'guest' rank is someone who will perform something rarely, or not enough to make them 'active' (i.e. Guest Speakers, etc). I don't see the need for the rank, if you want to hire someone you want someone who's going to do their job, not host like once a month or something.
Are Guest EO's held to a minimum? If so how many.
I've disagreed with Guest roles from the start as it's basically just for people who can't be bothered doing their job and want to do less than the minimums but remain staff in the department (for god knows what reason)
During events, you should make sure your staff is actually setting an example, and not being an embarrassment to Habbox or giving off a terrible image when they're representing your department and Habbox.
The latest example is one of the staff members screaming 'x is trading' in a room where trading was turned off, I could understand if it was done in a joking way but this was not.
I think the events department should have several different Weekly events set up (considering they are the events dept after all), perhaps even having one person own the room (i.e. Yet or Meanies) and have various staff host it weekly (again, for example HxHD's SNQ where it's hosted by different people each week but the same thing).
Preferably something that would actually stand out rather than just another event that could be hosted any other time (i.e. wired kinda game rather than the likes of pod racing) or just something unique.
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=817169 - This thread also needs to be updated, as it states Dolphins every Thursday at 6pm for Animal Speedway when apparently Dolphins isn't even staff any more?
So yeah, get weekly events up (several if possible hosted by different people) and sort out the thread to remove old ones.
As far as I'm aware, there's a list of permanently banned people who are banned from all events.
Wipe it.
As new management you should give everyone a second chance and a fresh start, if they act up then simply ban them again.
During summer, hold a staff competition to hold 114 or more events within a single Month.
Purely to beat Shonly; (according to http://habboxwiki.com/Habbox_Events#Trivia)
I'd like to see something done to mark the fact there's new management, make it noticeable although being close to Easter not sure how easy it would be to do a big event or something of the like.
I've noticed that lately everyone seems to mark the community notice board threads with their name, is this some kind of rule lately?
I'd much rather seeing for example;
[Events] Heaven of Hell - 23:00 GMT
[HxL] Beat the Dragon - 16:00 GMT
[HxHD] Saturday Night Quiz - 18:00 GMT
then further description including quite visibly the name to search included within the post rather than the start of the thread title.
It's so much easier to see who is actually doing what for what department, for example the Telephrase and Beat the dragon, I can only assume they're not 'official' events and are part of HabboxLive due to the Team Wars? Maybe I'm wrong and they're both events organisers I have no idea because I have no idea who the department is that they're hosting the event for.
Use the thread title to distinguish what department it is. It also makes it more useful for people to see say events dept and go to them all.
Also stick to one format (i.e. Undeads 5pm-7pm, Phils 8pm, Ripienos 8pm, then the rest 22:00 GMT etc)
Have a template if absolutely necessary (which could allow you to have little ads at the bottom every so often for example when apps are open etc) that they can copy and paste obviously editing the time, event and name.
Not sure how much of an issue this is as I don't attend every event, but games like Heaven or Hell just seem to be absolutely boring, there's little to no interaction and after 5 minutes it's basically an AFK-fest.
Something should be done to reduce how often they're hosted or try to encourage EO's to host other more entertaining events that actually interact with the users.
I remember a while ago games like Fallin' Furni were banned, is there a public list of banned games or is this only in Staff forums?
If so, could you copy and paste the banned games into here.
Congrats to new management though, more staff seem to be appearing and events activity seems to be picking up (I think, didn't really go to many events before) just hope it isn't the usual effort for a week then ditch it thing.
So when do I get senior EO perms?
PS: I gave up with the pros/cons after the first one and I did pre-warn you it would be all over the place lego_smile
Thoughts?
Kellie
24-03-2015, 12:30 AM
I agree with the Global Events part. I think it's pointless in a way and I see where you're getting at. I mean I understand why it used to be there, so more events would be hosted but it kind of defeats the point of becoming an EO. Before I applied for Events I didn't really see the point in returning if there are global events. Why become an EO and get set targets when I can host events anyway? Lol. I have decided to join back because of the new management and helping out etc but yeah I don't really see the point in it. Sure it's nice for other staff to host some events but again it defeats the point of being an EO. If any staff member was allowed behind the help desk like Scott said it would be pointless I agree. There wouldn't be a need for help desk staff. I personally think it should be removed :P
That's all I'm replying to for now lol
Meanies
24-03-2015, 12:43 AM
Wow that's a nice big post of feedback, thanks! I will address each point in bold below the spoiler!
Hello,
I'm bored so I thought I'd post some feedback regarding events (and obviously making a feedback thread makes @Yet (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=51359); panic so it's more entertaining).
I'm just going to ramble on with whatever comes to my head as I have no idea what I was going to put in this again.. so expect it to be all over the place.
First of all this silly thing that allows every staff member to host an event regardless of what department they are in, get rid of it. I assume it was brought about due to lack of events/staff but it's really a stupid scheme if you want to actually have a department with staff.
If you turned around and said 'okay any staff can go behind the help desk and assist users' then lets be honest Help Desk would be a pointless department.. the staff numbers would drop as it's essentially why bother join a department when I can do the job without necessarily being staff and I don't have to do 5 (?) hours a week.
I can understand the ability for staff to host events (rarely) as part of some competition, for example Habbox Summer Spectacular or even smaller competitions that are held within departments, but having the ability for any staff member to host events basically defeats the purpose of having an events department.
From what I've noticed there's no difference in non-EO's hosting events so is there any need? (I know this can be counter-argued but yeah)
Lets sum it up;
+ EO's get funding
- Events Department is obsolete, and staff/apps are pointless
- People who want to be an EO are less inclined as they can do it without applying
- People can ignore minimums
This is something myself and Richie were talking about earlier and we need to discuss it with general management. We think that the fact that any member of staff is able to host an event is having a detrimental effect on the department because as you said, why would someone join the events department to host events and have to meet a minimum when they can become any other member of staff and be able to do the same thing. It is something that we would like to get rid of and will hopefully lead to more people joining the events team again. Obviously HabboxLive will occasionally do their own events and the Help Desk has the Saturday Night Quiz but one of our plans is to get more involved with all of the departments and link up to create more events but we do need to put more thought into how we are going to implement this.
Another thing that I think needs to go is the guest rank. What's the point in it?
In reality a 'guest' rank is someone who will perform something rarely, or not enough to make them 'active' (i.e. Guest Speakers, etc). I don't see the need for the rank, if you want to hire someone you want someone who's going to do their job, not host like once a month or something.
Are Guest EO's held to a minimum? If so how many.
I've disagreed with Guest roles from the start as it's basically just for people who can't be bothered doing their job and want to do less than the minimums but remain staff in the department (for god knows what reason)
I understand where you are coming from with this point and it is something that we have discussed. The role will be staying for the timebeing due to the state the department is currently in although we have limited the role to 3 members and they must meet a minimum of 1 event per week or face the same warnings and cautions that other events staff would for not meeting their minimums. It is something that we will revisit when the department is in a better shape and we hope to abolish the role eventually, although we will be pushing the users who are Guest Events Organisers to host as many events as possible and try to get them to become a regular member of staff.
During events, you should make sure your staff is actually setting an example, and not being an embarrassment to Habbox or giving off a terrible image when they're representing your department and Habbox.
The latest example is one of the staff members screaming 'x is trading' in a room where trading was turned off, I could understand if it was done in a joking way but this was not.
I personally did not witness the point you mention here, but we are going to be sitting in on as many events as possible to be able to catch things like this. At the moment we are dealing with the administration side of things and getting everything up to date, but this is going to be one of our main focuses when we have everything in order.
I think the events department should have several different Weekly events set up (considering they are the events dept after all), perhaps even having one person own the room (i.e. Yet or Meanies) and have various staff host it weekly (again, for example HxHD's SNQ where it's hosted by different people each week but the same thing).
Preferably something that would actually stand out rather than just another event that could be hosted any other time (i.e. wired kinda game rather than the likes of pod racing) or just something unique.
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=817169 - This thread also needs to be updated, as it states Dolphins every Thursday at 6pm for Animal Speedway when apparently Dolphins isn't even staff any more?
So yeah, get weekly events up (several if possible hosted by different people) and sort out the thread to remove old ones.
Weekly Events will be making a come back in the near future, we're just getting everything sorted and trying to get the staff levels back up before introducing this. We have one definite plan for a Bi-Weekly wired event and will be compiling several other ideas to see which we feel would be the best to roll out. I do believe Shonly is also setting up a weekly event!
As far as I'm aware, there's a list of permanently banned people who are banned from all events.
Wipe it.
As new management you should give everyone a second chance and a fresh start, if they act up then simply ban them again.
We're one step ahead of you! The list has been done away with and wiped clean, with the exception of one user who has 'exit' in their name and causes disruption to events by getting players to say their name and they are then teleported out of the game area.
During summer, hold a staff competition to hold 114 or more events within a single Month.
Purely to beat @Shonly (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=81650); (according to http://habboxwiki.com/Habbox_Events#Trivia)
I don't think any of us have enough prizes to give to beat that amount at the minute! Staff competitions is something that we may look into however and I know that there have been some done in the past. I think perhaps the Summer Spectacular would be a good time to introduce something like this.
I'd like to see something done to mark the fact there's new management, make it noticeable although being close to Easter not sure how easy it would be to do a big event or something of the like.
We do have one idea in mind for an Easter event, but it would depend on what furniture Habbo are releasing for Easter as to whether or not this will work. We will go back and think of alternative ideas but time is not on our side to get something planned in time.
I've noticed that lately everyone seems to mark the community notice board threads with their name, is this some kind of rule lately?
I'd much rather seeing for example;
[Events] Heaven of Hell - 23:00 GMT
[HxL] Beat the Dragon - 16:00 GMT
[HxHD] Saturday Night Quiz - 18:00 GMT
then further description including quite visibly the name to search included within the post rather than the start of the thread title.
It's so much easier to see who is actually doing what for what department, for example the Telephrase and Beat the dragon, I can only assume they're not 'official' events and are part of HabboxLive due to the Team Wars? Maybe I'm wrong and they're both events organisers I have no idea because I have no idea who the department is that they're hosting the event for.
Use the thread title to distinguish what department it is. It also makes it more useful for people to see say events dept and go to them all.
Also stick to one format (i.e. Undeads 5pm-7pm, Phils 8pm, Ripienos 8pm, then the rest 22:00 GMT etc)
Have a template if absolutely necessary (which could allow you to have little ads at the bottom every so often for example when apps are open etc) that they can copy and paste obviously editing the time, event and name.
The way CNB notices are posted is included in the rules and they should be posted [Host Name] Event Name - Time GMT. As far as I know at this time, all events hosts do use this format and perhaps those with different formats are being posted by other departments. Maybe this is something we can look at and have just one format spread across all departments. I see where you're coming from with tagging what department is hosting the event, but the reason we put the host name first is so that people can easily see who is hosting the game. Again, this is something that we will discuss between ourselves and see if we can come up with any changes to the system at the moment.
Not sure how much of an issue this is as I don't attend every event, but games like Heaven or Hell just seem to be absolutely boring, there's little to no interaction and after 5 minutes it's basically an AFK-fest.
Something should be done to reduce how often they're hosted or try to encourage EO's to host other more entertaining events that actually interact with the users.
As I said further up with your comment about staff not setting an example, this is something that we will be monitoring as we do want our staff to be involved and upbeat in the events. Sometimes it can be difficult in games such as Heaven or Hell to keep it interesting for a full hour, but we will be encouraging all staff to be as chatty as possible.
I remember a while ago games like Fallin' Furni were banned, is there a public list of banned games or is this only in Staff forums?
If so, could you copy and paste the banned games into here.
There is no list of banned games at the moment nor do we plan on introducing one. The only time we may ban an event from being hosted is if it has been done too many times within a set period of time to keep the variety there. We have a large list of events which can be hosted (which does need updating) and there is plenty of choice.
Congrats to new management though, more staff seem to be appearing and events activity seems to be picking up (I think, didn't really go to many events before) just hope it isn't the usual effort for a week then ditch it thing.
So when do I get senior EO perms?
PS: I gave up with the pros/cons after the first one and I did pre-warn you it would be all over the place lego_smile
Overall, thank you for the feedback. We are both here to make a change and I think we can see a difference in the department already, events are more popular than I have seen for quite a while, regularly achieving 25-30 users at a time and we hope to raise this even further, and I've noticed quite a few new faces in the events also. We do have a lot of work left to do, but we also need the manpower there to make it happen - so everyone apply for events!
scottish
24-03-2015, 01:07 AM
This is something myself and Richie were talking about earlier and we need to discuss it with general management. We think that the fact that any member of staff is able to host an event is having a detrimental effect on the department because as you said, why would someone join the events department to host events and have to meet a minimum when they can become any other member of staff and be able to do the same thing. It is something that we would like to get rid of and will hopefully lead to more people joining the events team again. Obviously HabboxLive will occasionally do their own events and the Help Desk has the Saturday Night Quiz but one of our plans is to get more involved with all of the departments and link up to create more events but we do need to put more thought into how we are going to implement this.
Good to see I'm not the only one thinking this and yeah understandably HxL etc will host their own events for their own competitions and such, but they shouldn't have free reign to just randomly host events (neither should HxHD apart from special circumstances and SNQ, neither should Content apart from special circumstances, etc, etc)
I understand where you are coming from with this point and it is something that we have discussed. The role will be staying for the timebeing due to the state the department is currently in although we have limited the role to 3 members and they must meet a minimum of 1 event per week or face the same warnings and cautions that other events staff would for not meeting their minimums. It is something that we will revisit when the department is in a better shape and we hope to abolish the role eventually, although we will be pushing the users who are Guest Events Organisers to host as many events as possible and try to get them to become a regular member of staff.
How many do you currently have and how many events do they do?
From what I see it's just purely a 'cba doing the minimums? here's a new rank for you' kind of thing.
From my point of view it's either you want to be staff in which case you pull your weight and do your job, or you don't. Shouldn't be a middle-ground for people who can't be bothered but still want to keep their staff forums and role next to their name imho :P
I personally did not witness the point you mention here, but we are going to be sitting in on as many events as possible to be able to catch things like this. At the moment we are dealing with the administration side of things and getting everything up to date, but this is going to be one of our main focuses when we have everything in order.
Yeah the host didn't either, was just an example though so should definitely be keeping an eye out for the behaviour of especially trialists during other official habbox events.
Weekly Events will be making a come back in the near future, we're just getting everything sorted and trying to get the staff levels back up before introducing this. We have one definite plan for a Bi-Weekly wired event and will be compiling several other ideas to see which we feel would be the best to roll out. I do believe Shonly is also setting up a weekly event!
Good to see, should get that thread updated too asap as it's got info regarding Dolphins even, when (s)he's no longer even staff.
I don't think any of us have enough prizes to give to beat that amount at the minute! Staff competitions is something that we may look into however and I know that there have been some done in the past. I think perhaps the Summer Spectacular would be a good time to introduce something like this.
Yeah anything that motivates staff is always a good idea.
(unless it's giving them tokens and not us Phil; )
We're one step ahead of you! The list has been done away with and wiped clean, with the exception of one user who has 'exit' in their name and causes disruption to events by getting players to say their name and they are then teleported out of the game area.
Good to see.
We do have one idea in mind for an Easter event, but it would depend on what furniture Habbo are releasing for Easter as to whether or not this will work. We will go back and think of alternative ideas but time is not on our side to get something planned in time.
Was no plans made by previous management for Easter Events (even the likes of graphics etc)?
The way CNB notices are posted is included in the rules and they should be posted [Host Name] Event Name - Time GMT. As far as I know at this time, all events hosts do use this format and perhaps those with different formats are being posted by other departments. Maybe this is something we can look at and have just one format spread across all departments. I see where you're coming from with tagging what department is hosting the event, but the reason we put the host name first is so that people can easily see who is hosting the game. Again, this is something that we will discuss between ourselves and see if we can come up with any changes to the system at the moment.
It could possibly be other departments I have no idea as I don't know who's staff of either and what dept their hosting it for :P
Host name shouldn't be an issue as it's very clear by the thread poster (afaik every events staff forum name should have corresponding habbo name? unless that's changed), if absolutely necessary could even have something like
[HxHD] Shonly - Saturday Night Quiz - 18:00 GMT
[Events] Yet - Some Events - 15:00 GMT
[HxL] Yuxin - Wacky Waving Inflatable Tube Man - 19:00 GMT
Obviously it could be messy if someone has a very long name and event name, but adding [HxL] etc isn't going to take up a huge amount of space and allows you to differentiate between departments.
As I said further up with your comment about staff not setting an example, this is something that we will be monitoring as we do want our staff to be involved and upbeat in the events. Sometimes it can be difficult in games such as Heaven or Hell to keep it interesting for a full hour, but we will be encouraging all staff to be as chatty as possible.
It's not even just the fact that it's staff not being chatty it's just that some games are considerably more boring than others, Heaven and Hell being a prime example. The user has to literally click one spot every 5 minutes and if they lose wait 10 for the next game, or click one spot within the next 5 minutes again.
It's a very un-entertaining game in my opinion and I'm sure many agree as the event was literally dead (in terms of everyone being afk and not talking, rather than no people)
There is no list of banned games at the moment nor do we plan on introducing one. The only time we may ban an event from being hosted is if it has been done too many times within a set period of time to keep the variety there. We have a large list of events which can be hosted (which does need updating) and there is plenty of choice.
Could you show us a list of the list of events?
Richie
24-03-2015, 01:21 AM
Thanks for the feedback. Some of the points you've mentioned have already been discussed but i'll go into detail a little more below.
First of all this silly thing that allows every staff member to host an event regardless of what department they are in, get rid of it. I assume it was brought about due to lack of events/staff but it's really a stupid scheme if you want to actually have a department with staff.
If you turned around and said 'okay any staff can go behind the help desk and assist users' then lets be honest Help Desk would be a pointless department.. the staff numbers would drop as it's essentially why bother join a department when I can do the job without necessarily being staff and I don't have to do 5 (?) hours a week.
I can understand the ability for staff to host events (rarely) as part of some competition, for example Habbox Summer Spectacular or even smaller competitions that are held within departments, but having the ability for any staff member to host events basically defeats the purpose of having an events department.
From what I've noticed there's no difference in non-EO's hosting events so is there any need? (I know this can be counter-argued but yeah)
Lets sum it up;
+ EO's get funding
- Events Department is obsolete, and staff/apps are pointless
- People who want to be an EO are less inclined as they can do it without applying
- People can ignore minimums
I personally agree with this, however as Jake said this is something we'd have to discuss further with general management.
Another thing that I think needs to go is the guest rank. What's the point in it?
In reality a 'guest' rank is someone who will perform something rarely, or not enough to make them 'active' (i.e. Guest Speakers, etc). I don't see the need for the rank, if you want to hire someone you want someone who's going to do their job, not host like once a month or something.
Are Guest EO's held to a minimum? If so how many.
I've disagreed with Guest roles from the start as it's basically just for people who can't be bothered doing their job and want to do less than the minimums but remain staff in the department (for god knows what reason)
If managers aren't constantly pushing guests towards a more regular role / trying to increase their activity then I think the plan goes out the window. So yes I agree in that sense, it's pointless if the position isn't monitored. I also believe the guest position needs to have a weekly minimum. I've asked a lot of people to come back / join since becoming assistant and the majority of them have replied with an issue regarding the minimum. I totally understand though. People want to help the department but don't want to let it down. Perhaps the role is flawed maybe it's just the title.
During events, you should make sure your staff is actually setting an example, and not being an embarrassment to Habbox or giving off a terrible image when they're representing your department and Habbox.
The latest example is one of the staff members screaming 'x is trading' in a room where trading was turned off, I could understand if it was done in a joking way but this was not.
I never really see this happening. If this does happen, feel free to report the user / PM us.
I think the events department should have several different Weekly events set up (considering they are the events dept after all), perhaps even having one person own the room (i.e. Yet or Meanies) and have various staff host it weekly (again, for example HxHD's SNQ where it's hosted by different people each week but the same thing).
Preferably something that would actually stand out rather than just another event that could be hosted any other time (i.e. wired kinda game rather than the likes of pod racing) or just something unique.
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=817169 - This thread also needs to be updated, as it states Dolphins every Thursday at 6pm for Animal Speedway when apparently Dolphins isn't even staff any more?
So yeah, get weekly events up (several if possible hosted by different people) and sort out the thread to remove old ones.
As Jake said weekly events will be a regular thing again.
As far as I'm aware, there's a list of permanently banned people who are banned from all events.
Wipe it.
As new management you should give everyone a second chance and a fresh start, if they act up then simply ban them again.
I agree, sorted.
During summer, hold a staff competition to hold 114 or more events within a single Month.
Purely to beat @Shonly (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=81650); (according to http://habboxwiki.com/Habbox_Events#Trivia)
Challenge accepted.
I've noticed that lately everyone seems to mark the community notice board threads with their name, is this some kind of rule lately?
I'd much rather seeing for example;
[Events] Heaven of Hell - 23:00 GMT
[HxL] Beat the Dragon - 16:00 GMT
[HxHD] Saturday Night Quiz - 18:00 GMT
then further description including quite visibly the name to search included within the post rather than the start of the thread title.
It's so much easier to see who is actually doing what for what department, for example the Telephrase and Beat the dragon, I can only assume they're not 'official' events and are part of HabboxLive due to the Team Wars? Maybe I'm wrong and they're both events organisers I have no idea because I have no idea who the department is that they're hosting the event for.
Use the thread title to distinguish what department it is. It also makes it more useful for people to see say events dept and go to them all.
Also stick to one format (i.e. Undeads 5pm-7pm, Phils 8pm, Ripienos 8pm, then the rest 22:00 GMT etc)
Have a template if absolutely necessary (which could allow you to have little ads at the bottom every so often for example when apps are open etc) that they can copy and paste obviously editing the time, event and name.
I suppose it would look neater. It makes sense to change the format.
Not sure how much of an issue this is as I don't attend every event, but games like Heaven or Hell just seem to be absolutely boring, there's little to no interaction and after 5 minutes it's basically an AFK-fest.
Something should be done to reduce how often they're hosted or try to encourage EO's to host other more entertaining events that actually interact with the users.
A user actually suggested this in my room the other day. They'd prefer events to be more competitive than luck based. The likes of Fallin' Furni I love as I can be super cruel and hide chairs behind other furni. Actually makes things more entertaining for the host too.
I remember a while ago games like Fallin' Furni were banned, is there a public list of banned games or is this only in Staff forums?
If so, could you copy and paste the banned games into here.
Personally I think the only time an event should be banned is when it's breaching the habbo way. Regardless if people believe certain events like fallin' furni are bias there's always tri, space etc so it does take skill.
Congrats to new management though, more staff seem to be appearing and events activity seems to be picking up (I think, didn't really go to many events before) just hope it isn't the usual effort for a week then ditch it thing.
So when do I get senior EO perms?
I'll do one better, I can add you to the perm ban list :O;)
+1
Absently
24-03-2015, 01:27 AM
omg dont get rid of luck based games... they're actually the only ones i enjoy as i'm not very skilled in other areas and my only chance at winning is luck :( (albeit, barely winning BUT NONETHELESS)
Meanies
24-03-2015, 01:28 AM
Responses in bold!
Good to see I'm not the only one thinking this and yeah understandably HxL etc will host their own events for their own competitions and such, but they shouldn't have free reign to just randomly host events (neither should HxHD apart from special circumstances and SNQ, neither should Content apart from special circumstances, etc, etc)
I'm not sure where the radio stands in terms of events to be honest, it's something I'll have to clarify and we will be talking to general management about removing the ability for any member of staff to host an event in the coming days.
How many do you currently have and how many events do they do?
From what I see it's just purely a 'cba doing the minimums? here's a new rank for you' kind of thing.
From my point of view it's either you want to be staff in which case you pull your weight and do your job, or you don't. Shouldn't be a middle-ground for people who can't be bothered but still want to keep their staff forums and role next to their name imho :P
We currently have two guest organisers on trial, Ripieno and GoldenMerc. The way we're looking at it for the moment is that the department desperately needs the staff, so if someone is only able to host 1 event, it is still better than 0 events. Last week we only had 10 events hosted and the week before that was 7, so the extra one or two will make the difference. Eventually it is something that we will phase out when staff levels are back up and we will also look at reducing the minimum back down to 2 events per week which will hopefully encourage more users to join the team.
Yeah the host didn't either, was just an example though so should definitely be keeping an eye out for the behaviour of especially trialists during other official habbox events.
Good to see, should get that thread updated too asap as it's got info regarding Dolphins even, when (s)he's no longer even staff.
Thread has been updated now, only the SNQ remains in there for the moment until we get our plans underway
Yeah anything that motivates staff is always a good idea.
(unless it's giving them tokens and not us @Phil (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=67954); )
Good to see.
Was no plans made by previous management for Easter Events (even the likes of graphics etc)?
As far as I have seen in the events forum, there are no plans. Having just had a look at the Easter furniture on Puhekupla, our plan will most likely go ahead!
It could possibly be other departments I have no idea as I don't know who's staff of either and what dept their hosting it for :P
Host name shouldn't be an issue as it's very clear by the thread poster (afaik every events staff forum name should have corresponding habbo name? unless that's changed), if absolutely necessary could even have something like
[HxHD] Shonly - Saturday Night Quiz - 18:00 GMT
[Events] Yet - Some Events - 15:00 GMT
[HxL] Yuxin - Wacky Waving Inflatable Tube Man - 19:00 GMT
Obviously it could be messy if someone has a very long name and event name, but adding [HxL] etc isn't going to take up a huge amount of space and allows you to differentiate between departments.
Didn't actually think of the point that the thread would be posted by the host anyway, so their name will be shown there. It's something we will look into and see if we can improve and work with other departments to get a universal format.
It's not even just the fact that it's staff not being chatty it's just that some games are considerably more boring than others, Heaven and Hell being a prime example. The user has to literally click one spot every 5 minutes and if they lose wait 10 for the next game, or click one spot within the next 5 minutes again.
It's a very un-entertaining game in my opinion and I'm sure many agree as the event was literally dead (in terms of everyone being afk and not talking, rather than no people)
Could you show us a list of the list of events?
When I've hosted Heaven or Hell it doesn't take that long, it's a constant flow of activity and managed to get 6 games in the last time. We will be revising the list of possible events and include ways to spice the games up a bit, such as wiring up certain aspects of the games.
List of events from a previous management, yet to be altered
5 Seconds to Kick:
Addition:
Beat the Dragon:
Black Hole:
Bumper Cars:
Chain Game:
Defend Your Pod:
Dice Dominoes:
Don't Get a Carrot:
Don't Roll a 6:
Don't Touch My Floor:
Don't Wake Grandma:
Drowned:
Fastest Typer:
Find the Furni:
Find the Tele:
First/Last To Clone:
Fridge Races:
Furni Missions:
Guess the Value:
Habbox Marathon:
Hide and Seek:
Higher or Lower - 2nd Version:
Human Marbles:
Isolation:
Jump the Fence:
Lucky Colour:
Mocha Races:
Murder Train:
Musical Chairs:
Name 3:
Name the Singer:
Name the Song:
Pay Day:
Pick Me Up:
Pod Racing or Don't Hit the Wall:
Pool Attack:
Shout it Out:
Snake:
Snakes and Ladders:
Spot The Difference:
Steal The Ice Cream:
Supermarket Sweep:
Team Quiz:
Telephrase:
The Mole:
The Sims:
The Whole 19 Yards:
Thirteen:
Trivia Races:
Tug of War:
Twister:
Unscramble:
What Time is it Mr Wolf?:
Richie
24-03-2015, 01:33 AM
omg dont get rid of luck based games... they're actually the only ones i enjoy as i'm not very skilled in other areas and my only chance at winning is luck :( (albeit, barely winning BUT NONETHELESS)
We wouldn't I just think we need a bit more of a variety between the both of them style of games :P
Bloop
24-03-2015, 02:31 AM
Meanies; matt mdport.;) owns a wired animal speedway if im not wrong...? its not auto as it still require a bit more tweaks to the wired :P
i havent read this thread in detail; just skimmed thru, but what abt merging two of the points scott raised -- global events and guest eo's. scrap allowing all staff to host events but allow all staff to become a guest eo with minimal hassle.
sorry of this looks out of place :/
Empired
24-03-2015, 08:29 AM
Excited for the new management for events! Old but new faces seem to be the best way at reviving departments and it's great to see that so much seems to be being done to bring the department back from the dead.
I have to go to sixth form in like 2 minutes so I can't develop this but could anything be done about the people who don't want to participate in events but might still want to populate the events rooms by coming along and just watching? Generally speaking I just don't enjoy playing events as they don't appeal to me and I have no need for prizes, but in some events rooms there's not even an AFK area and I have to stand in the doorway which sucks. Or the watching area is like 3x3 squares and is completely full so there's not even anywhere to stand.
This is such a tiny issue it probably doesn't even count as an issue but it does bother me so I'd point it out.
Aww I wanna return to events now but I don't have time until after exams :'(
Bloop
24-03-2015, 08:35 AM
Excited for the new management for events! Old but new faces seem to be the best way at reviving departments and it's great to see that so much seems to be being done to bring the department back from the dead.
I have to go to sixth form in like 2 minutes so I can't develop this but could anything be done about the people who don't want to participate in events but might still want to populate the events rooms by coming along and just watching? Generally speaking I just don't enjoy playing events as they don't appeal to me and I have no need for prizes, but in some events rooms there's not even an AFK area and I have to stand in the doorway which sucks. Or the watching area is like 3x3 squares and is completely full so there's not even anywhere to stand.
This is such a tiny issue it probably doesn't even count as an issue but it does bother me so I'd point it out.
Aww I wanna return to events now but I don't have time until after exams :'(
ah yes, create guides for afk chairs for events staff, maybe even supply the stuff needed for it
thrs always random people who likes come in let them afk in thr without being kicked since they can populate the room too woo
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oh wait scottish; when i was content designer thr was a list of banned events that are mostly those sort of trapping games, as it would be influenced by the owners bias to decide the winner of the game.
should deffo be updated soon since thrs wired and that should fix it
also idr have much to say but pasta and richie would 120c suffice for the prize for the host of the most events during hxss? let me know so i can contribute my part :P
Inseriousity.
24-03-2015, 12:31 PM
I've always disagreed with the guest role and generally speaking does more harm than good long-term. The issue of recruitment is definitely so bad that it is now a general management thing rather than foisted down to individual managers and more needs to be done to attract new staff.
scottish
24-03-2015, 12:45 PM
I've always disagreed with the guest role and generally speaking does more harm than good long-term. The issue of recruitment is definitely so bad that it is now a general management thing rather than foisted down to individual managers and more needs to be done to attract new staff.
Feel free to post another thread and suggest some ideas for the (A)GM's :P
ah yes, create guides for afk chairs for events staff, maybe even supply the stuff needed for it
thrs always random people who likes come in let them afk in thr without being kicked since they can populate the room too woo
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oh wait scottish; when i was content designer thr was a list of banned events that are mostly those sort of trapping games, as it would be influenced by the owners bias to decide the winner of the game.
should deffo be updated soon since thrs wired and that should fix it
also idr have much to say but pasta and richie would 120c suffice for the prize for the host of the most events during hxss? let me know so i can contribute my part :P
They already replied saying that there is no banned events, so they were most likely wiped recently or at any point after you resigned.
(unless it's giving them tokens and not us Phil; )
What are you even talking about?
scottish
24-03-2015, 12:53 PM
What are you even talking about?
When you gave top 5 posting staff members tokens and we had a riot
When you gave top 5 posting staff members tokens and we had a riot
Oh yeah lmao that was ridiculous. That's been discontinued for months now so you can hopefully let that one go. I discontinued it because it wasn't increasing posting with staff like I had hoped.
FlyingJesus
24-03-2015, 02:02 PM
"We" had a riot lol...
But yeah guest staff is daft and just increases the number of people with weak activity levels, causing more work to be done by everyone else. CNB I agree needs sorting out and has done for a long time, said it many times before but it looks really messy with people using different formats to write event notes switching between military and 12 hour times and changing between ~ - : etc, just little things but it makes the entire thing look bad. Ought really to be [time] [event] [host] to make it easy to follow and looking neat. Also no idea what team wars is.
Empired
24-03-2015, 04:28 PM
Also no idea what team wars is.
Neither do I and I'm in it yo
Apparently there are private forums for it but no one ever gave me perms so Ripieno is just PMing me the stuff I need to know but I can't see what everyone else is doing... Can anyone sort that out idk who to tag Wispur; maybe
I also don't really agree with the idea of a guest role either but I can see why it's being kept until the department is back up on its feet. Yet; Meanies; how far are you hoping to get the department before the role is scrapped?
Reality
24-03-2015, 05:38 PM
Neither do I and I'm in it yo
Apparently there are private forums for it but no one ever gave me perms so Ripieno is just PMing me the stuff I need to know but I can't see what everyone else is doing... Can anyone sort that out idk who to tag Wispur; maybe
I also don't really agree with the idea of a guest role either but I can see why it's being kept until the department is back up on its feet. Yet; Meanies; how far are you hoping to get the department before the role is scrapped?
The Team Wars thing only has to outsiders of HabboxLive, now only one as I'm a DJ again. The break down of Team Wars is primarily for within HabboxLive which is a battle against the 4 teams HabboxLive has e.g Alpha, Bravo, Delta & Echo. There's been a load of challenges set by Ripieno;, who can explain it in more detail. So I wouldn't worry about anything you see that is titled [Team Wars] on events as it just signals that people in Team Wars can gain points from it, but it is just a normal even as well. But Empired the permissions can't be given to you as they're in the HabboxLive Staff forums, that's why Ripieno is having to PM you them.
Kimmy
24-03-2015, 05:46 PM
The Team Wars thing only has to outsiders of HabboxLive, now only one as I'm a DJ again. The break down of Team Wars is primarily for within HabboxLive which is a battle against the 4 teams HabboxLive has e.g Alpha, Bravo, Delta & Echo. There's been a load of challenges set by Ripieno;, who can explain it in more detail. So I wouldn't worry about anything you see that is titled [Team Wars] on events as it just signals that people in Team Wars can gain points from it, but it is just a normal even as well. But Empired the permissions can't be given to you as they're in the HabboxLive Staff forums, that's why Ripieno is having to PM you them.
Team Wars isn't actually just the HabboxLive teams. I made entirely new teams specifically for this event and opened it up to anyone who wanted to join. Nothing goes on inside of the HxL staff forums that isn't said in either the Team Chats or the PMs I've been sending.
Empired
24-03-2015, 05:50 PM
YEAH WHAT SHE SAID
I wish Team Wars had been advertised more; I'm sure plenty more would-be participants would have signed up.
Kardan
24-03-2015, 06:21 PM
Not sure if this has been suggested, but why not scrap minimums for say 2/3 weeks, during that time, get loads of trialists on board and see how the events go. If people want to join, but are put off by minimums, then maybe the amount of new people in the department will actually increase the number of events going on?
Then if it works, give the 'Guest EO' to anyone that doesn't meet the old quota, 'EO' to anyone that does, and 'Senior' for those pulling above their weight and scrap minimums permanently.
FlyingJesus
24-03-2015, 06:50 PM
So team wars is just for the staff that Ripieno speaks to then
Not sure if this has been suggested, but why not scrap minimums for say 2/3 weeks, during that time, get loads of trialists on board and see how the events go. If people want to join, but are put off by minimums, then maybe the amount of new people in the department will actually increase the number of events going on?
Then if it works, give the 'Guest EO' to anyone that doesn't meet the old quota, 'EO' to anyone that does, and 'Senior' for those pulling above their weight and scrap minimums permanently.
I agree with this suggestion. There's a point in articles that I, in a way, ignored minimums for those in the department, and encouraged those I had on the team to write more solid, in depth articles... As far as I know, it has gone very well, and yeah.
So I agree with this.
Meanies
24-03-2015, 09:19 PM
@Meanies (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=15035); matt @mdport. (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=67543);) owns a wired animal speedway if im not wrong...? its not auto as it still require a bit more tweaks to the wired :P
i havent read this thread in detail; just skimmed thru, but what abt merging two of the points scott raised -- global events and guest eo's. scrap allowing all staff to host events but allow all staff to become a guest eo with minimal hassle.
sorry of this looks out of place :/
I'm not sure what way we are going to be heading with Weekly Events yet, whether we'll be bringing old ones back or starting up some fresh and new ones. We are going to be doing away with the global events, but the guest role is not something that we want to keep in the long run and that is why we have currently limited it to 3 staff so that it will be easier to phase out without losing a large chunk of staff.
Excited for the new management for events! Old but new faces seem to be the best way at reviving departments and it's great to see that so much seems to be being done to bring the department back from the dead.
I have to go to sixth form in like 2 minutes so I can't develop this but could anything be done about the people who don't want to participate in events but might still want to populate the events rooms by coming along and just watching? Generally speaking I just don't enjoy playing events as they don't appeal to me and I have no need for prizes, but in some events rooms there's not even an AFK area and I have to stand in the doorway which sucks. Or the watching area is like 3x3 squares and is completely full so there's not even anywhere to stand.
This is such a tiny issue it probably doesn't even count as an issue but it does bother me so I'd point it out.
Aww I wanna return to events now but I don't have time until after exams :'(
Most rooms should have a little chill/habboxvip area and this is another point that we can reevaluate. I agree with your point and have noticed that some users do like to just watch the goings on and have a chat with the players. It is something that we can easily implement so keep your eyes open for a little chill area!
ah yes, create guides for afk chairs for events staff, maybe even supply the stuff needed for it
thrs always random people who likes come in let them afk in thr without being kicked since they can populate the room too woo
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oh wait @scottish (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=53890); when i was content designer thr was a list of banned events that are mostly those sort of trapping games, as it would be influenced by the owners bias to decide the winner of the game.
should deffo be updated soon since thrs wired and that should fix it
also idr have much to say but pasta and richie would 120c suffice for the prize for the host of the most events during hxss? let me know so i can contribute my part :P
No one would be kicked from the room for idling, unless of course they are in the playing area and are holding up the game. We can also incorporate it that wired can be used to bring the user back to life in the room if they have been idling for too long in the chill area.
"We" had a riot lol...
But yeah guest staff is daft and just increases the number of people with weak activity levels, causing more work to be done by everyone else. CNB I agree needs sorting out and has done for a long time, said it many times before but it looks really messy with people using different formats to write event notes switching between military and 12 hour times and changing between ~ - : etc, just little things but it makes the entire thing look bad. Ought really to be [time] [event] [host] to make it easy to follow and looking neat. Also no idea what team wars is.
Guest Staff will be staying for now mentioned in previous responses, they do still have targets to meet and we will actively push them to become a regular member of staff. The CNB notices are something that we will have a look at and see what way we feel is the best to display them and make sure that all departments use this format.
Neither do I and I'm in it yo
Apparently there are private forums for it but no one ever gave me perms so Ripieno is just PMing me the stuff I need to know but I can't see what everyone else is doing... Can anyone sort that out idk who to tag @Wispur (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=55895); maybe
I also don't really agree with the idea of a guest role either but I can see why it's being kept until the department is back up on its feet. @Yet (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=51359); @Meanies (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=15035); how far are you hoping to get the department before the role is scrapped?
It really depends on how quickly we are able to establish a solid team of staff. Once we have enough people on the team to have a couple of events a day we will start talks over doing away with the role.
Not sure if this has been suggested, but why not scrap minimums for say 2/3 weeks, during that time, get loads of trialists on board and see how the events go. If people want to join, but are put off by minimums, then maybe the amount of new people in the department will actually increase the number of events going on?
Then if it works, give the 'Guest EO' to anyone that doesn't meet the old quota, 'EO' to anyone that does, and 'Senior' for those pulling above their weight and scrap minimums permanently.
I think minimums should be kept in place as they are a good way to monitor how the staff are doing and how they are able to manage their time for hosting events. We do however hope to reduce the minimum down to 2 events per week once we have enough staff on the team to make this possible. The Guest role is something that we don't want to keep forever and we will be phasing it out aroud the same time as we reduce the minimum in the hope that anyone in the role at the time won't mind hosting just 1 more event per week but for the timebeing, we don't want a department full of guest organisers who only need to host 1 event, we would rather have regular staff with a minimum of 3 events as we can gauge roughly how many events we should have per week.
Bloop
24-03-2015, 10:05 PM
YEAH WHAT SHE SAID
I wish Team Wars had been advertised more; I'm sure plenty more would-be participants would have signed up.
sorry kimmy, but was it even advertised? i agree with what FJ had said, had no idea what is team wars until i saw an event
Lewis
24-03-2015, 10:07 PM
Just sort of found out about team wars now, still don't fully know what it's about
FlyingJesus
24-03-2015, 10:24 PM
Careful you'll get post edits from JamesSparky for not being positive enough
On the topic of "afk areas" or whatever, there was a point when habboxvip wasn't allowed and separate viewing areas were discouraged wasn't there? From what I remember that was a total flop because it meant people either just wouldn't turn up or would be a nuisance in the events after being forced to play when they were really just there to socialise, so I agree that there needs to be a little push in terms of making sure there are communal areas in event rooms - mazes and runs and such apart from the entrances are obviously an exception here. Can you really use wired to prevent people from being autokicked for afk? That could be useful for keeping room population up
Reality
24-03-2015, 11:02 PM
On the subject of Team Wars, it's mainly HabboxLive staff members (+ empired) who were randomly placed into 5 different teams, these teams have to score as many points as they can over the next week (unless it's 2 weeks), the teams earn points through hosting events e.g if you see [Team Wars][Habbox] Don't Roll a Six something like that, indicates to Team Wars players they can gain points from going to that event. There are also mini tasks which earn individual and group points, as well as the group winning the most points the person with the most points can win prizes. It's all a massive game.
In regards to events, the events popularity has really kicked up! For instance, Welshcake's room was used earlier for Heaven or Hell @ 22:00 - 23:00 and the peak users in the room & playing was 47. Compared to previous event's which barely saw above 20 on a good day, shows the new management are doing something right already!
scottish
24-03-2015, 11:05 PM
On the subject of Team Wars, it's mainly HabboxLive staff members (+ empired) who were randomly placed into 5 different teams, these teams have to score as many points as they can over the next week (unless it's 2 weeks), the teams earn points through hosting events e.g if you see [Team Wars][Habbox] Don't Roll a Six something like that, indicates to Team Wars players they can gain points from going to that event. There are also mini tasks which earn individual and group points, as well as the group winning the most points the person with the most points can win prizes. It's all a massive game.
In regards to events, the events popularity has really kicked up! For instance, Welshcake's room was used earlier for Heaven or Hell @ 22:00 - 23:00 and the peak users in the room & playing was 47. Compared to previous event's which barely saw above 20 on a good day, shows the new management are doing something right already!
Nice edit :P
If no-one understands/knew about Team Wars then I just see it as an absolute failure.
FlyingJesus
24-03-2015, 11:12 PM
So it's like a mini tournament but with a focus on hosting rather than winning the events? Seems like a pretty good idea to promote staff activity but doesn't appear to have been put in action so well. Would definitely be worth seeing what the intended structure of it is/was and doing it again in future in a clearer way. I have no problem with it being a staff competition if that's what it is since that can be used to boost everything else and it benefits everyone if there are more events etc but these things do need to be drafted a little better before launch it seems :P
If it helps with the CNB thing I can put prefixes with all the departments for them to use?
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Inseriousity.
25-03-2015, 12:09 AM
urgh prefixes everywhere.
forum closed due to prefixes.
No-one reads CNB threads anyway, surprised people even noticed lol.
FlyingJesus
25-03-2015, 12:18 AM
I don't think we need thread prefixes, just a standardised way of writing thread titles. Personally I think it'd be best to have the time written first rather than the host name so that it's easy to scroll through and see when things are happening.
[22:00 GMT] Telephrase hosted by OneEyedOneHornedFlyingPurplePeopleEater
simple
scottish
25-03-2015, 01:11 AM
I don't think we need thread prefixes, just a standardised way of writing thread titles. Personally I think it'd be best to have the time written first rather than the host name so that it's easy to scroll through and see when things are happening.
[22:00 GMT] Telephrase hosted by OneEyedOneHornedFlyingPurplePeopleEater
simple
Typically it'll be in order of time anyway as they don't post hours in advance and it's typically last post = the latest event or the current event.
Empired
25-03-2015, 02:01 PM
Team Wars was only for HxL staff??? I just saw Ripieno's sig I think and thought it looked cool so I sent her a PM or a VM idk asking if I can join and she said yes
Sent from phone
Meanies
25-03-2015, 08:24 PM
Just an update for you all on some of the comments mentioned in this thread. The global events have now been done away with and any staff member wishing to host an event should only do so as a member of the events department. With regards to the change to Community Notice Board announcements, we have discussed a few different formats and it was decided that it should remain the way it is.
Little bit of statistics for you all:
Events hosted 2 weeks ago: 7
Events hosted last week: 10
Events hoted this week: 12, plus 3 days still to go!
Kardan
27-03-2015, 07:20 PM
Just an update for you all on some of the comments mentioned in this thread. The global events have now been done away with and any staff member wishing to host an event should only do so as a member of the events department. With regards to the change to Community Notice Board announcements, we have discussed a few different formats and it was decided that it should remain the way it is.
Little bit of statistics for you all:
Events hosted 2 weeks ago: 7
Events hosted last week: 10
Events hoted this week: 12, plus 3 days still to go!
Wow, I didn't realise that the events department had gotten that bad. Good luck to you.
Meanies
27-03-2015, 07:41 PM
Wow, I didn't realise that the events department had gotten that bad. Good luck to you.
It was in a pretty sorry state :P I think when we took over the department there was 1 senior, 2 regular staff and a trialist which is no where near enough for an events team. This week (which ends 23:59 tomorrow) there have now been 19 events run by the events department which is a vast improvement and we are still actively trying to get more users on the team.
Lewis
27-03-2015, 08:12 PM
Oh wow I didn't even notice, I thought you meant that was the amount of events per day not week :P. But that's not for you to be blamed for yet, the department was like that when you arrived.
Hopefully it improves soon and I'm sure it will with you two :)
Meanies
27-03-2015, 11:25 PM
Oh wow I didn't even notice, I thought you meant that was the amount of events per day not week :P. But that's not for you to be blamed for yet, the department was like that when you arrived.
Hopefully it improves soon and I'm sure it will with you two :)
If only there were that many per day it'd be fab, one day.. one day.. By the time the week is out there will have been 25 events hosted which is already a vast improvement, that's more than triple the amount there was 2 weeks ago! A little motivation and a few new faces back on the team has given the department a kick up the bum!
Hopefully all going well, our first new weekly event will be starting this Sunday :)
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