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-:Undertaker:-
07-04-2015, 01:41 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3027081/How-half-public-believes-Camilla-Queen-Charles-accedes-throne.html

How half of the public now believes Camilla should become Queen when Charles accedes to the throne

- Prince Charles and Camilla will celebrate their anniversary later this week
- The couple were married in April 2005 after their engagement in February
- In 2005, only seven per cent of people thought Camilla should be Queen
- Almost half are in favour of Queen Camilla when Charles takes the throne


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/05/08/article-2321219-19AD982B000005DC-976_634x386.jpg
The Duchess of Cambridge and Prince Charles at the State Opening of Parliament with Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip



Nearly half of the British public believe the Duchess of Cornwall should become Queen Consort when the Prince of Wales accedes to the throne. A new poll by YouGov ahead of Charles and Camilla's 10th wedding anniversary reveals that 49 per cent think Camilla should take the traditional title of the wife of a reigning king, while 35 per cent believe she should be given a lesser title out of respect to Diana, Princess of Wales and 16 per cent were undecided.

When the Prince and Camilla became engaged in February 2005, only 7 per cent of people polled by YouGov thought Camilla should one day be Queen. Aides have always insisted the Duchess does not want to be known as Queen and intends to be known as Princess Consort instead.

But according to some legal experts, unless there is change in the law, Camilla will technically become Queen no matter what title she actually uses. Most people (42 per cent) said they had neither a positive or negative impression of Camilla, with 31 per cent saying they had a positive one and 23 per cent a negative one.

But the survey of 1,830 people also showed that 44 per cent believed Camilla was well prepared to be the wife of the reigning monarch, 13 per cent thought she was badly prepared and the remainder had no opinion or did not know.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/06/05/26CE40D500000578-0-image-m-50_1428294657097.jpg
Almost half of all Britons believe Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall, right, should become Queen when Prince Charles accedes to the throne although 35 per cent believe she should be rewarded with a lesser title



Of those questioned, 50 per cent thought Camilla had carried out her duties as Duchess of Cornwall well - with 20 per cent saying she did this very well and 30 per cent fairly well. Only 6 per cent thought she had done badly in the role. Some 28 per cent had no opinion and 16 per cent did not know.

Nicola Wildash, research executive at YouGov, suggested it was more a case of people becoming used to Camilla, rather than a large surge in popularity. 'The further we get from Diana's death, the less that will resonate in people's minds. As soon as the public see something for years and years, they become more neutralised to the issue,' she said.

Figures from YouGov in June last year showed 53 per cent thought Camilla should one day become Queen Consort, 32 per cent believed she should have a lesser title and 14 per cent did not know. But Ms Wildash said the slight decrease from 53 per cent to 49 per cent was not significant and part of a general small fluctuation.

Almost two fifths (39 per cent) said they believed the Queen was happy with Camilla's performance as the Duchess of Cornwall, with only 9 per cent thinking the monarch was unhappy. Regarding Charles, 29 per cent think he is performing his duties as Prince of Wales better than he did 10 years ago, while 7 per cent think he is performing his duties worse than a decade ago. But 27 per cent think he was already performing his duties well and there has been no difference during the 10 years and 12 per cent believe there is no difference and he is still performing his duties poorly.

An interesting turnaround in public opinion, Clarence House will be pleased.

Obviously the sticking point was over the death of Diana, Princess of Wales hence why the Duchess was so unpopular as well as Prince Charles back in the late 1990s... but the fact is that the wife of a King is a Queen and anything other would be rather silly and unprecedented. According to the law it as it stands now anyway it will happen. Likelyhood is that as Queen Elizabeth II grows older and Prince Charles takes on more duties or acts as a Regent, these figures will only climb upwards.

Thoughts?

Kardan
07-04-2015, 02:11 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3027081/How-half-public-believes-Camilla-Queen-Charles-accedes-throne.html

How half of the public now believes Camilla should become Queen when Charles accedes to the throne

- Prince Charles and Camilla will celebrate their anniversary later this week
- The couple were married in April 2005 after their engagement in February
- In 2005, only seven per cent of people thought Camilla should be Queen
- Almost half are in favour of Queen Camilla when Charles takes the throne


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/05/08/article-2321219-19AD982B000005DC-976_634x386.jpg
The Duchess of Cambridge and Prince Charles at the State Opening of Parliament with Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip




http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/06/05/26CE40D500000578-0-image-m-50_1428294657097.jpg
Almost half of all Britons believe Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall, right, should become Queen when Prince Charles accedes to the throne although 35 per cent believe she should be rewarded with a lesser title




An interesting turnaround in public opinion, Clarence House will be pleased.

Obviously the sticking point was over the death of Diana, Princess of Wales hence why the Duchess was so unpopular as well as Prince Charles back in the late 1990s... but the fact is that the wife of a King is a Queen and anything other would be rather silly and unprecedented. According to the law it as it stands now anyway it will happen. Likelyhood is that as Queen Elizabeth II grows older and Prince Charles takes on more duties or acts as a Regent, these figures will only climb upwards.

Thoughts?

So the husband of the Queen would be a King? :P

-:Undertaker:-
07-04-2015, 02:18 PM
So the husband of the Queen would be a King? :P

Nope, as the rank of King is higher than a Queen hence why Prince Philip isn't King Philip and Prince Albert (husband of Victoria) wasn't King Albert.

http://royalcentral.co.uk/blogs/explanation/why-isnt-prince-philip-king-22725
http://royalcentral.co.uk/blogs/opinion/why-camilla-must-become-our-queen-22676

All female consorts in British history are styled as Queen.

Kardan
07-04-2015, 02:25 PM
Nope, as the rank of King is higher than a Queen hence why Prince Philip isn't King Philip and Prince Albert (husband of Victoria) wasn't King Albert.

http://royalcentral.co.uk/blogs/explanation/why-isnt-prince-philip-king-22725
http://royalcentral.co.uk/blogs/opinion/why-camilla-must-become-our-queen-22676

All female consorts in British history are styled as Queen.

I know that's not the case, hence the :P face - but you said that "it'd be silly since a King's wife is a Queen" so using that logic you'd think the same would apply in a Queen's husband being King, but it doesn't...

I don't like the fact that Queen consorts are styled as 'Queen' because that suggests they're on the same level as actual Queens. Anyway, Clarence house has said that Camilla will have the title 'Her Royal Highness The Princess Consort' rather than 'Her Majesty The Queen' that previous wives of Kings have had, so that's okay with me - although I imagine that's because of having a Queen in reign now rather than to do with Diana/Camilla issues.

-:Undertaker:-
07-04-2015, 02:38 PM
I know that's not the case, hence the :P face - but you said that "it'd be silly since a King's wife is a Queen" so using that logic you'd think the same would apply in a Queen's husband being King, but it doesn't...

I don't like the fact that Queen consorts are styled as 'Queen' because that suggests they're on the same level as actual Queens.

Well it would be silly, it'd be like calling the wife of the Emperor of Japan Princess rather than Empress. It's the same for most monarchies actually, the only exception I can think of is the House of Saud and the Gulf monarchies who have multiple wives. In Spain you have King Philip V and Queen Letzia. Netherlands you have King Wilhelm-Alexander and Queen Maxima, Sweden you have King Carl Gustaf and Queen Silvia etc.


Anyway, Clarence house has said that Camilla will have the title 'Her Royal Highness The Princess Consort' rather than 'Her Majesty The Queen' that previous wives of Kings have had, so that's okay with me - although I imagine that's because of having a Queen in reign now rather than to do with Diana/Camilla issues.

It is entirely to do with the Diana/Camilla issue, as I said it would be unprecedented for the wife of the King to not be styled as a Queen. Queen Victoria reigned longer than our present Queen remember, yet when she died and her son King Edward VII became monarch.. his consort was Queen Alexandra. Then it was King George V and Queen Mary. Then King George VI and Queen Elizabeth (aka Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother). Clarence House said that at the time of the wedding to aid public opinion, but as public opinion changes and without any changes in law... it'll be HM King Charles III (or whatever regnal name he chooses) and HM Queen Camilla.

I think the fact we haven't had it for so long may make it seem strange, but then again it was only just over ten years ago that the Queen Mother died and she was titled as Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother (the Queen Mother bit only added as we had two Elizabeths).

Kardan
07-04-2015, 02:44 PM
Also worth noting that this poll was done in June 2014, I guess the Daily Mail are having a slow news day :P

I don't think Diana should really be an issue anymore - it's nearly 20 years ago now. I guess that's why opinion polling is starting to benefit Camilla. I still think it should be 'The Queen Consort Camilla' rather than 'The Queen Camilla' though. Guess we'll see what happens when that time comes.

-:Undertaker:-
07-04-2015, 02:54 PM
Also worth noting that this poll was done in June 2014, I guess the Daily Mail are having a slow news day :P

I don't think Diana should really be an issue anymore - it's nearly 20 years ago now. I guess that's why opinion polling is starting to benefit Camilla. I still think it should be 'The Queen Consort Camilla' rather than 'The Queen Camilla' though. Guess we'll see what happens when that time comes.

It is a reported new poll, just the findings are pretty much identical to those last summer which the Mail has mentioned in the article.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/568587/Camilla-become-Queen-Consort-half-British-public
http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/regional/growing-support-for-camilla-to-become-queen-1-6673860
(http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/regional/growing-support-for-camilla-to-become-queen-1-6673860)
And indeed. My inkling is, and of the rumours I have read on, that Prince Charles is determined to have his wife as Queen and crowned alongside him.

Kardan
07-04-2015, 02:56 PM
It is a reported new poll, just the findings are pretty much identical to those last summer which the Mail has mentioned in the article.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/568587/Camilla-become-Queen-Consort-half-British-public
http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/regional/growing-support-for-camilla-to-become-queen-1-6673860

Ah, my bad. Last June 53% thought she should be Queen, now it's only 49%, must be a real slow news day :P

Aiden
07-04-2015, 03:00 PM
Just 'skip' Charles and give it to William. :)

GommeInc
12-04-2015, 09:04 PM
I wouldn't be against Camilla being Queen when Charles is King. She seems a pretty decent person. I'm not sure why people would be against it, really.

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