Windows 10 could be the last version of Windows [Archive]

peteyt

08-05-2015, 03:26 PM

There's a lot of articles online talking about the possibility of Windows 10 being the last version of Windows with Windows 10 simply receiving updates regularly.

http://www.theverge.com/2015/5/7/8568473/windows-10-last-version-of-windows

I myself think it might cause more issues than anything - Some software for example might have compatibility issues with newer or older versions and helping computer users may become a little bit more tricky when trying to figure out which version they are on.

I do like the idea of smaller updates like we had with 8.1 being released but I think we still need a new full version for big changes to avoid issues. I'd like to see more updates to windows 10 e.g. 10.1 10.2 but later on when big changes are implemented a version 11

Also in other news Microsoft have just recently announced that Windows Media Centre will be discontinued and won't be included in version 10 and above due to the lack of usage but DVD playback should be added to Windows 10 at some point. It's also been announced that Microsoft Edge, previously Spartan, will replace Internet Explorer with Windows 10. IE has always had a bad image, seemingly since version 6 and hasn't really been able to remove that bad image no matter what improvements it made. A new browser with a new name might be a way to change this.

Shorty

13-05-2015, 09:53 PM

peteyt

13-05-2015, 09:58 PM

I have been using Windows 10 as my main operating system for awhile now and I haven't turned back. It's that balance between Windows 7 and 8, the fact that I've been getting build updates via Windows Update seems awesome!

Truly, I look forward to getting future major updates over the normal update system as it just makes sense.

Sadly there's a lot of people fearing Microsoft will use Windows 10 to eventually turn Windows into a subscription service but I think most people are panicking.

Obviously if they turn Windows into a service they'll need to make money but I think they'll do this with a yearly subscription type license or have subscription services available for the non subscription OS. Charging a monthly subscription would just cause too much backlash and even Microsoft aren't that stupid

Joe

13-05-2015, 10:21 PM

xxMATTGxx

14-05-2015, 06:52 AM

Don't think there will be any need to panic, it's not like you are forced to buy any Windows upgrades even if they did do this said "subscription" service. It'll be interesting to see what they will do with it though. Anyway can't wait for the actual release of Windows 10 so I can upgrade my main machine to it.

-:Undertaker:-

14-05-2015, 08:30 PM

I am so technologically backwards that I don't even know what Windows I am using.

peteyt

15-05-2015, 01:21 PM

I have a Mac nowadays so I don't know much about the PC, all I know is if it's anything like Windows 8 I hate it.

If they do turn it into a subscription service that could possibly deter pirates from having up to date software?

Not necessary. Adobe's Creative Cloud Suite is a monthly subscription service now but it's still cracked and pirated by people.

I don't think Microsoft will risk at least going down the monthly subscription way and if they do yearly it would have to be cheap. Making it an expensive or monthly subscription based service might make it trickier for pirates to get hold of but at the same time it'll also give them more reason to pirate. Obviously piracy will always be a problem and nothing can ever stop it but if Windows is very cheap/affordable then it will at least encourage many to buy, deterring them from pirating

AgnesIO

15-05-2015, 01:28 PM

Windows 10 is fantastic, already. This IS the last numbered version (confirmed), personally I am fine with this - if the price is right people will buy it (Office 365 seems to be hugely successful).

peteyt

15-05-2015, 01:49 PM

Windows 10 is fantastic, already. This IS the last numbered version (confirmed), personally I am fine with this - if the price is right people will buy it (Office 365 seems to be hugely successful).

The problem is paying monthly for programs such as an office suite vs paying monthly for an entire OS is completely different. It all depends on frequency and price really.

Shorty

16-05-2015, 07:15 PM

The problem is paying monthly for programs such as an office suite vs paying monthly for an entire OS is completely different. It all depends on frequency and price really.

I doubt they would make it monthly, perhaps yearly.

GommeInc

18-05-2015, 08:43 PM

AgnesIO

18-05-2015, 10:55 PM

Would they really do a subscription based service? In this day and age the drive seems to be towards that you pay for the OS purely through buying your device, so if you buy a new computer or phone you are essentially buying the OS as a bundle. So if you own a device for 10 years and get these through build updates you are pretty much happy with a bargain, but loads of people change their devices quite often which to me seems like a way Microsoft could make their money for the OS without these different versions. Pretty much like Google do with Android and Chrome OS, and what Apple may soon do with iOS (unless they already do).

A subscription like you have for Anti-Virus just doesn't seem plausible or realistic, as Microsoft will probably have to strive towards releasing updates frequently and be incredibly active to make the service worth while. It just doesn't make sense from an operations viewpoint.

They have managed it with Office, but then I guess that is optional - you can't really have an OS that people cannot use unless they pay up front for it - unless word is bundled in or something.

Earthquake

19-05-2015, 05:21 PM

from what I have read, this is the last version of windows.

I am guessing they will be updating the software over the years and just adding different things rather then a whole new change.

apps are now the new ui

peteyt

20-05-2015, 10:34 PM

Would they really do a subscription based service? In this day and age the drive seems to be towards that you pay for the OS purely through buying your device, so if you buy a new computer or phone you are essentially buying the OS as a bundle. So if you own a device for 10 years and get these through build updates you are pretty much happy with a bargain, but loads of people change their devices quite often which to me seems like a way Microsoft could make their money for the OS without these different versions. Pretty much like Google do with Android and Chrome OS, and what Apple may soon do with iOS (unless they already do).

A subscription like you have for Anti-Virus just doesn't seem plausible or realistic, as Microsoft will probably have to strive towards releasing updates frequently and be incredibly active to make the service worth while. It just doesn't make sense from an operations viewpoint.

That's why I wonder if they will keep the OS free and have different services that people can subscribe to e.g. A Music Service, Film Service, Office etc. hoping that those who get the free OS might in turn subscribe to one of the services.

Also with Windows 8 Microsoft seemed to state they'd be releasing updates more frequently so maybe this is the plan - a yearly fee but each year a big update

xxMATTGxx

01-06-2015, 09:04 AM

Microsoft will release Windows 10 on July 29th

Source: http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/06/01/hello-world-windows-10-available-on-july-29/

AgnesIO

01-06-2015, 09:40 AM

Microsoft will release Windows 10 on July 29th

Source: http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/06/01/hello-world-windows-10-available-on-july-29/

You can also 'reserve' your copy now, when an icon appears in the bottom right hand corner of the taskbar (little Windows button). If you have not already received the icon, you can (apparently) do this;

It's easy to make the pop up manually appear also if it hasn't already popped up for you:

Open Control Panel
Open Administrative Tools
Open Task Scheduler
Expand on the left "Task Scheduler Library"
Expand Microsoft
Expand Windows
Scroll down and Expand Setup
Click the folder "GWXTriggers"
On the far right is a bunch of options Click "Run"

MightyMagician

01-06-2015, 02:04 PM

If you have not entered your email, you must do it soon. Windows 10 is completely free for those who sign up during this period. I myself got the icon last night and I am ready. This is even better for me because the release date is around the time I get my balcony back. Enjoy mates. :)

Monotonous

01-06-2015, 02:11 PM

I can't find the icon, I think i have an non genuine windows 7 even though it was genuine for a while :S Does that mean i can't get windows 10 for free?

MightyMagician

01-06-2015, 02:14 PM

I believe I read somewhere you get the upgrade regardless if genuine or not. The icon should be in your notification/system tray. If desktop, next to volume. If laptop, nest to battery. At least that's where it was for me.

Monotonous

01-06-2015, 02:18 PM

Nah it's not there

MightyMagician

01-06-2015, 02:24 PM

Yeah, in one of the articles about the topic of Win10 they gave instructions on how to manually run the program. I'm checking my history to find it for everyone.

- - - Updated - - -

Here you go man. Enjoy. :)

http://venturebeat.com/2015/05/31/microsoft-starts-prompting-windows-7-and-windows-8-users-to-reserve-their-free-windows-10-upgrade/

MotorStefan95

01-06-2015, 07:02 PM

I've got the icon now, I'm now registered to get Windows 10. This version of Windows looks like it will be pretty good.

peteyt

01-06-2015, 07:27 PM

Looking forward to the final release. I'm seriously debating getting a windows 10 phone.

Monotonous

02-06-2015, 04:18 PM

I can't seem to find setup on the task scheduler :(

Chris

02-06-2015, 08:02 PM

Reserved on both my windows computers. Looking forward to it. :D

James

02-06-2015, 10:18 PM

I pressed the icon & the reserve button while not connected to the internet, which means I couldn't enter my email, but now the reserve button is no longer there.

I have tried restarting my Pc, but still nothing.

lemons

02-06-2015, 10:24 PM

you will still be able to download it with or without the reservation

Earthquake

03-06-2015, 11:52 AM

I have fake windows 8.1 and I have the reservation so it is available

GommeInc

03-06-2015, 05:55 PM

Do you have to put an email in? I reserved it on this PC (Windows 7) and it wasn't required. Haven't tried the Windows 8.1 laptop yet.

lemons

29-07-2015, 12:57 PM

windows 10 now available

peteyt

29-07-2015, 01:05 PM

windows 10 now available
However the actual update is being rolled out in stages, probably wise, as everyone updating at once would probably cause issues such as server crashes etc.

I am currently however testing a possible method for forcing the update. All I did for this was open command prompt and type in "wuauclt.exe /updatenow" (without "). I had windows update open at the same time which previously had found no updates but after using the command windows update stated to download the Windows 10 update.

It has downloaded and is currently preparing for installation - it apparently doesn't work for everyone - some people for example get to 100 percent download wise and get an error or something.

lemons

29-07-2015, 01:27 PM

www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

i have downloaded it (took about 2 hours) and so far it's quite okay

peteyt

29-07-2015, 01:46 PM

www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 (http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10)

i have downloaded it (took about 2 hours) and so far it's quite okay

Is that for the final version? My installation with the other method sadly failed although it took some people a few times apparently

xxMATTGxx

29-07-2015, 01:51 PM

Is that for the final version? My installation with the other method sadly failed although it took some people a few times apparently

Should be the version you were trying to download but in ISO format instead. Plus you would get updates via Windows Update anyway.

peteyt

29-07-2015, 01:54 PM

Should be the version you were trying to download but in ISO format instead. Plus you would get updates via Windows Update anyway.

remembered i was signed up to the insider program which links directly to that link so going to use that method

xxMATTGxx

29-07-2015, 07:28 PM

Just finished upgrading my desktop.

lemons

29-07-2015, 07:29 PM

i had to downgrade back to 8.1 it was awful for me personally! so slow things kept crashing, spotify wouldnt work UGH

will hopefully b getting a macbook next month anyway

AgnesIO

30-07-2015, 05:07 AM

i had to downgrade back to 8.1 it was awful for me personally! so slow things kept crashing, spotify wouldnt work UGH

will hopefully b getting a macbook next month anyway

Seems like your installation messed up somewhere. I used a lot of the preview builds and didn't have such issues.

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If I download the ISO, can I use the same file on multiple pcs (all using legit windows?).

Currently overseas and will update the organisations computers if so. Cannot justify a 5gb download ten times though.

xxMATTGxx

30-07-2015, 07:34 AM

Seems like your installation messed up somewhere. I used a lot of the preview builds and didn't have such issues.

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If I download the ISO, can I use the same file on multiple pcs (all using legit windows?).

Currently overseas and will update the organisations computers if so. Cannot justify a 5gb download ten times though.

I assume so as long as you are doing upgrades and not clean installs. Mine isn't even activated at the moment but there was a post on reddit saying the activation servers was getting hammered. Hopefully it activate soon and I Haven't ****** up by going the quicker route of getting Windows 10.

Prosiary

30-07-2015, 01:08 PM

i've used it on my laptop it's brilliant, went to local computer shop and paid £25 for 2gb of ddr3 ram and it's £17 on amazon for the same one.... needed it today though haha

Chris

30-07-2015, 05:47 PM

Installed on both my Windows computers. Attempting to do it through Windows Update was a complete waste of time, so I just suggest downloading the tool from the Microsoft website.

Prosiary

30-07-2015, 06:32 PM

Installed on both my Windows computers. Attempting to do it through Windows Update was a complete waste of time, so I just suggest downloading the tool from the Microsoft website.

Yeah, I'm doing that way at the moment, is there a choice of a clean install or save my documents?

Jetcutie

30-07-2015, 06:43 PM

windows 7 for life

xxMATTGxx

30-07-2015, 06:50 PM

Yeah, I'm doing that way at the moment, is there a choice of a clean install or save my documents?

If you do a normal upgrade you have the option to keep all your files and applications. I mean you can do a clean install if you really want to I suppose, I haven't tried it.

j0rd

30-07-2015, 06:55 PM

mines been stuck on this for hours :Angry:

http://i.imgur.com/PJCJ1yI.png

Prosiary

30-07-2015, 06:57 PM

If you do a normal upgrade you have the option to keep all your files and applications. I mean you can do a clean install if you really want to I suppose, I haven't tried it.

I've done it via the media creation tool, will there still be an option?

xxMATTGxx

30-07-2015, 06:59 PM

I've done it via the media creation tool, will there still be an option?

Yeah - Should be. There was for me anyway.

Chris

30-07-2015, 08:04 PM

mines been stuck on this for hours :Angry:

http://i.imgur.com/PJCJ1yI.png

I would give up if I were you. Unless you had the prompt saying that it's ready to download and install then it's unlikely to work. Go here and download what you need - microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

j0rd

30-07-2015, 08:27 PM

I would give up if I were you. Unless you had the prompt saying that it's ready to download and install then it's unlikely to work. Go here and download what you need - microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

i left it and had the prompt to start the upgrade after a while

Prosiary

30-07-2015, 09:51 PM

I had to exit it when I was about 25% in... hope i've not messed anything up.

xxMATTGxx

31-07-2015, 05:02 AM

I had to exit it when I was about 25% in... hope i've not messed anything up.

25% downloading or installing? Probably a bad idea to stop it. But hopefully you will be okay.

Prosiary

31-07-2015, 03:17 PM

25% downloading or installing? Probably a bad idea to stop it. But hopefully you will be okay.

Downloading, didn't press install, it took forever to download. Win 7 still works fine, internets getting upgraded so waiting until 11th to get it.

xxMATTGxx

31-07-2015, 03:18 PM

Downloading, didn't press install, it took forever to download. Win 7 still works fine, internets getting upgraded so waiting until 11th to get it.

Oh downloading would be fine to stop then.

Prosiary

31-07-2015, 03:50 PM

Oh downloading would be fine to stop then.

What happens when i use the tool again to download, will it start from 25%?

xxMATTGxx

31-07-2015, 03:57 PM

What happens when i use the tool again to download, will it start from 25%?

You'll have to wait and see haha

Prosiary

31-07-2015, 04:13 PM

You'll have to wait and see haha

have to wait until the 11th, my internet is like 1mb to 3mb a sec it's getting upped to fibre optic around 50mbs a sec download :)

AgnesIO

01-08-2015, 02:35 AM

If you stop the download it will not save progress. I have currently on about 400kb internet and have experienced this time and time again lol. No hope for me!

Lewis

02-08-2015, 12:25 AM

Ugh, just as I started installing windows 10 (after it downloading after hours) it said my PC was about to restart for windows 8.1 updates... so I cancelled it in case it messed up.

It seems I can't resume installation and I have to download it again from scratch . . . :( ?

Lewis

02-08-2015, 12:40 PM

Ok, finally upgraded. I wasup until like 5am :(.

For the multiple desktop thing on windows 10, does anyone know if you can have different desktop icons on different desktops, or is it just for having different things running in each desktop?

dbgtz

02-08-2015, 01:14 PM

Anyone else got some horrible zoom/blur issues? I change the zoom in settings but 100% blurs some things and not others, then 125% fixes the blurry things but makes the OK things blurry :(

xxMATTGxx

02-08-2015, 01:19 PM

Anyone else got some horrible zoom/blur issues? I change the zoom in settings but 100% blurs some things and not others, then 125% fixes the blurry things but makes the OK things blurry :(

What are you zooming in on?

dbgtz

02-08-2015, 01:25 PM

What are you zooming in on?

I'm on about the display zoom under settings > system > display.

peteyt

02-08-2015, 01:26 PM

Seems a lot slower boot wise for me

xxMATTGxx

02-08-2015, 01:30 PM

I'm on about the display zoom under settings > system > display.

No problems with it at 100% - Have you tried updating your graphics drivers?

Seems a lot slower boot wise for me

Boot up same speeds, if not better for me. Then again I am using an SSD for the OS.

dbgtz

02-08-2015, 01:58 PM

No problems with it at 100% - Have you tried updating your graphics drivers?

Boot up same speeds, if not better for me. Then again I am using an SSD for the OS.

Ahh thought I had, apparently I didn't. Did that & changed the settings then reset and it's all golden now.

peteyt

02-08-2015, 02:12 PM

No problems with it at 100% - Have you tried updating your graphics drivers?

Boot up same speeds, if not better for me. Then again I am using an SSD for the OS.

Tweaked it a little but my search is useless at the moment. Im wanting to put some music onto my new phone but even if i can see the files searching in my music doesn't find it e.g. if I was to search paramore it wouldn't find anything

xxMATTGxx

02-08-2015, 02:40 PM

Tweaked it a little but my search is useless at the moment. Im wanting to put some music onto my new phone but even if i can see the files searching in my music doesn't find it e.g. if I was to search paramore it wouldn't find anything

Make sure you click on "My Stuff" at the bottom and see if that helps with picking up stuff for you. Unless of course your search is still indexing itself.

peteyt

02-08-2015, 04:59 PM

Make sure you click on "My Stuff" at the bottom and see if that helps with picking up stuff for you. Unless of course your search is still indexing itself.

Seems a lot better now but a problem I thought I'd fixed has now reappeared. I keep getting a device disconnection sound. Thought it was a graphics card issue and it seemed okay once I updated but its happening again. Trying to update all drivers to see if that will fix it

xxMATTGxx

02-08-2015, 05:09 PM

Seems a lot better now but a problem I thought I'd fixed has now reappeared. I keep getting a device disconnection sound. Thought it was a graphics card issue and it seemed okay once I updated but its happening again. Trying to update all drivers to see if that will fix it

The search kinda sucks for me to be honest. It's like it's not indexing correctly but having a read it might be due to the changes they did to how it works between previous Windows and Windows 10 and someone saying a fresh install of it would make it work without a problem. As it would take whatever you have installed. Hmmm, I'll see how it goes before going down that route though.

peteyt

02-08-2015, 07:27 PM

The search kinda sucks for me to be honest. It's like it's not indexing correctly but having a read it might be due to the changes they did to how it works between previous Windows and Windows 10 and someone saying a fresh install of it would make it work without a problem. As it would take whatever you have installed. Hmmm, I'll see how it goes before going down that route though.

Finally fixed my device issue by unplugging my monitors hdmi cable from my pc and plugging it back in seems okay now weirdly