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Sharon
14-05-2015, 06:32 PM
ok hi i'm going to try and keep this in a nutshell

i do four as levels. three i'm pretty good in, one i am going to fail. that is law, i just can't grasp it and it's far too late to try and solve in now. i haven't revised for it nor am i majorly going to before the exam anyway. like i have accepted that and have tried harder to ensure good grades on the other three. i am predicting myself an E and at a push a D at law anyway

it has always been my intention to do the exams anyway as it's just extra ucas points cos i know im not carrying it onto a2

one teacher told me that if i worst case scenario get a U it is still ok as i don't have to mention that on uni applications unless i wish to tell them so they will not know

however my law teacher told me today to not do the exam as a bad grade is worse than no grade and that it will appear on my certificate and i will have to explain that to a uni when applying and they 'ask to see my certificate' i wasn't aware that they will do that???? is he doing it to save his arse so it doesn't go down on his record or what

so essentially my questions are

are they going to see it if i do ****???

is it worth doing the exam knowing i'm going to do badly anyway???

Futz
14-05-2015, 06:35 PM
Do the exam, you can just not put the AS level on ucas if you dont want to

the teacher would probably prefer you not to do it because it might look as though she's a **** teacher if she has a high percentage of fails

nevermind that

I've just read theres a declaration saying you have to declare all grades

i guess i missed that during ucas

lemons
14-05-2015, 06:43 PM
yes do the exam it's ucas points and every little helps

your teacher is chatting a load of **** and just cares about his record

pretty sure certificates aren't given out until oct/nov anyway and you would be at uni by then

Sharon
14-05-2015, 06:53 PM
Do the exam, you can just not put the AS level on ucas if you dont want to

the teacher would probably prefer you not to do it because it might look as though she's a **** teacher if she has a high percentage of fails

nevermind that

I've just read theres a declaration saying you have to declare all grades

i guess i missed that during ucas

UGH REALLY

right i really really don't know now **** a duck

Kardan
14-05-2015, 07:08 PM
All your grades come on the same certificate from the same exam board.

So for example I have certificates that say my grades for

AS Further Maths
AS Physics
AS Chemistry

all on the same certificate. The question is, does a U grade appear on a certificate at all?

I always got told you didn't have to declare a U, but I chose not to sit an exam because I was going to get a U.


You do have to declare a U.



If we, or a university or college, have any reason to believe that you or your referee have:
left out any information, including any qualifications you have completed, qualifications with an unsuccessful grade or qualifications for which you are still awaiting results,
given false or misleading information,
supplied a personal statement, or parts of a personal statement, that you have not written yourself,
we may take any necessary steps to check with you and other parties whether it is accurate or complete.
We have the right to cancel your application without giving you your application fee back, if we determine or (having carried out any necessary checks) or have reasonable belief that your application contains false information or you have not written your personal statement yourself.
If you have any reason to believe that information we have about you is not accurate or complete, you must tell us.

Sharon
14-05-2015, 07:42 PM
All your grades come on the same certificate from the same exam board.

So for example I have certificates that say my grades for

AS Further Maths
AS Physics
AS Chemistry

all on the same certificate. The question is, does a U grade appear on a certificate at all?

I always got told you didn't have to declare a U, but I chose not to sit an exam because I was going to get a U.


You do have to declare a U.

so going from that... i shouldn't!

new question: does not sitting an exam make it a U automatically or will it not appear

Kardan
14-05-2015, 07:46 PM
so going from that... i shouldn't!

new question: does not sitting an exam make it a U automatically or will it not appear

I'm assuming you've already been entered for it since it's getting close now. From what I know if you don't attend you get a grade X which means you didn't sit the exam. That's equivalent to nothing. A grade U is that you sat the exam but didn't get enough marks for a grade. So you wouldn't get a U from not turning up. Although if the exam is just one part of the whole course and you've already been graded for part of the course, I imagine you would get a U?

Joe
14-05-2015, 07:47 PM
UCAS declare that you shouldn't.

Unless they have exclusive evidence that you've lied by not putting down a U grade, i wouldn't worry at all, as UCAS get thousands of applications each day so going through them all just to ask people if you failed any is pretty stupid.

But that's my personal opinion, if you want to go by the books then its your choice, good luck by the way!!

AgnesIO
14-05-2015, 08:12 PM
I'd be surprised if you are not already entered for the exam... so if you don't turn up you're going to be guaranteed a U...

lemons
14-05-2015, 08:14 PM
I'd be surprised if you are not already entered for the exam... so if you don't turn up you're going to be guaranteed a U...

actually you get an X

Sharon
14-05-2015, 08:14 PM
I'm assuming you've already been entered for it since it's getting close now. From what I know if you don't attend you get a grade X which means you didn't sit the exam. That's equivalent to nothing. A grade U is that you sat the exam but didn't get enough marks for a grade. So you wouldn't get a U from not turning up. Although if the exam is just one part of the whole course and you've already been graded for part of the course, I imagine you would get a U?

It's purely exam based, no coursework or anything so I am guessing I would get the X

Ok may as well just go it and get an E

If I worse case get a U I'll leave it off (not gna happen tbh)

AgnesIO
14-05-2015, 08:26 PM
actually you get an X

Speaking from experience? :P

Kardan
14-05-2015, 08:31 PM
Speaking from experience? :P
Charz777; fell ill before an RE exam and got an X.

AgnesIO
14-05-2015, 08:59 PM
@Charz777 (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=63619); fell ill before an RE exam and got an X.

Poor excuse.

Sharon
14-05-2015, 09:10 PM
Poor excuse.

are you being serious or is that a joke?

AgnesIO
14-05-2015, 09:23 PM
are you being serious or is that a joke?

It was a joke :P

(I'm assuming it was more than a cold!)

The Don
14-05-2015, 09:34 PM
Shaz if you just cram before the exam you should be able to get a d/e. You can also resit just the as next year which would be easier since you've already learned some of the material. I had god awful attendance and just did an all nighter before the exam and managed to get a d! If I were you I would just take the exam and resit the as along with three a2's next year.

AgnesIO
14-05-2015, 09:45 PM
Shaz if you just cram before the exam you should be able to get a d/e. You can also resit just the as next year which would be easier since you've already learned some of the material. I had god awful attendance and just did an all nighter before the exam and managed to get a d! If I were you I would just take the exam and resit the as along with three a2's next year.


Pfft, I cram in some Uni exams and somehow get a first...

FlyingJesus
14-05-2015, 09:57 PM
my law teacher told me today to not do the exam as a bad grade is worse than no grade and that it will appear on my certificate and i will have to explain that to a uni when applying and they 'ask to see my certificate

This is absolute nonsense, there is 0% chance that anything your law professor is telling has any basis in truth. You are not required to show anything that you don't want to show and there is no single charter of your life that shows all of your records that is available to university entry staff. The only time anyone will be required to see your A level certificates is at enrolment after you've already been accepted and are setting up to begin the first year - if that. Even then, you are already signed up to take these exams so any result (be it anything from A through to U/X) will show up on the "certificate" from the exam board at the end

--ss--
15-05-2015, 03:21 AM
You're better off attempting it and hoping you end up with a D. Considering you've been studying it for a good duration of the year surely you'll be able to answer a few questions.
The 20/30 points may make the difference on clearing day if you happen to miss your offer; 20 points is actually the difference between each final grade.

Kyle
15-05-2015, 03:29 AM
Never been asked to see my certificates, although I assume they are on record anyway lol. AS law is very memory-based and all of the topics are systematic where essays are concerned. Don't be fooled by big words and latin phrases, looking over each topic briefly and take one page of notes on their main points will stand you in good stead for any exam question. Have a chilled out no-stress revision session and take the exam. Worst case scenario - you fail. So?

Zak
15-05-2015, 03:17 PM
There is a government ran website called the Learner Records Service. On the Learner Records Service educators have access to student's Personalised Learning Record (PLR). This includes a record of your qualifications including A levels:


"Your PLR is your permanent, authoritative online record of your qualifications andachievements. The PLR records general and vocational qualifications such as butnot limited to QCF, A levels, GCSEs, BTEC, Diplomas and Functional Skills. ThePLR means you should no longer have to show copies of different certificates tolearning providers and employers. You can provide this information as a reportgenerated from your PLR.

How is the PLR populated?
From 2013 Awarding Organisations have directly started to upload achievement datato the PLR. Previously data on the PLR has primarily been supplied by TheDepartment for Education and The Skills Funding Agency but this is not alwaystimely."

Regardless I think your offer will be accepted before your qualifications are downloaded from the Learner Records Services (that's if they don't still use the paper-based method of asking you to bring them in). That's usually what happens in other educational institutions anyway. I wouldn't worry about it - take the exam/don't take the exam I don't think it will make any difference.

Earthquake
15-05-2015, 06:34 PM
i say go for it shazza, if you prefer vodka over brandy then thats your opinion nobody elses xx

Matthew
17-05-2015, 08:07 PM
I'd probably take it, like @The_Don; said you could probably cram and get yourself an E at the very least. Maybe if you're in the situation where say your law exam is on the same day as another (more important?) exam then don't sit it but given you've presumably been to the lessons, and given you've predicted yourself an E I would probably take the exam

good luck whatever you choose! :)

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