Habbox Competitions...

[!:random!:!]

Hi, Okay am not sure if this is where i would post but where are all the competitions??? there is only 2 on and i entered them like at start of month!!! come on comps staff :( -( Unless my navigation is broken? then ignore my rant xD )

[FlyingJesus]

Only one I see is the design party suite thing which is finished anyway

http://i.imgur.com/fz8p03m.png

[-Nick]

It's the end of the month. There is only 3 staff including both managers (which are not away at the moment). All three of us have eleven competitions each to produce this month so thats 33 competitions which will be out this month. That's basically one a day. It's the calendar changeover period. It's the end of the month !:random!:!; and I am 100% certain more than 2 competitions have been posted this month (May). Maybe you could help us out and apply to produce more competitions for the community?

[!:random!:!]

Oh i see -Nick; i thought competitions department were big on numbers :O thank-you for filling me in and letting me know why :)

[Sho]

Nick has pretty much said it all (although the fact that the managers aren't away isn't true as both of us have been away for the past 3 days). New month will start on the 1st so more competitions will be posted then. :)

[Expling]

Shonly can you also fix the thread issue??
someone moved the design hxl party room thread and they left a redirect
it's frustrating me :'(

but yeah, can't wait to see more competitions woo!!

[Sho]

@Shonly (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=81650) can you also fix the thread issue??
someone moved the design hxl party room thread and they left a redirect
it's frustrating me :'(

but yeah, can't wait to see more competitions woo!!

Sorted. :)

[FlyingJesus]

What so at the end of the month we just leave a random gap of no comps for a couple of weeks instead of just saying "oh it's the 28th let's have one that ends on the 5th" as would make sense

[-Nick]

What so at the end of the month we just leave a random gap of no comps for a couple of weeks instead of just saying "oh it's the 28th let's have one that ends on the 5th" as would make sense

It's been like 2-3 days not two weeks. Like Sho stated above both Mike and herself have been away. Only them two + AGM I believe have the right to move the competitions out when its time. So if they are away.. Who can do it?

[Kyle]

It's been like 2-3 days not two weeks. Like Sho stated above both Mike and herself have been away. Only them two + AGM I believe have the right to move the competitions out when its time. So if they are away.. Who can do it?
They're away but still posting which suggests that there is a stream of contact so just ask for permission and get an admin to do it lol

[FlyingJesus]

It's been like 2-3 days not two weeks

The last comp posted was on the 16th, 12 days ago

[Kyle]

I miss yupt

[Samantha]

What so at the end of the month we just leave a random gap of no comps for a couple of weeks instead of just saying "oh it's the 28th let's have one that ends on the 5th" as would make sense

For the most part there has always been a gap in the calendar, it gives managers and staff members time to collect winners, give prizes where necessary and helps the back end admin when it comes to the end of the month. However, this was changed under previous management - might have been Yupt and Shonly not 100% sure whereby it would be more ongoing rather than having a gap where no competitions were there, this was changed back (so there's a gap) when Inseriousity. got manager again as far as I know!

[Chippiewill]

Not doing stuff at the end of the month is ******* ******ed. Could you imagine if the moderators all just buggered off for the last three days of the month because they're too busy picking MOTM?

[Inseriousity.]

The end of the month is left free for administration purposes. The last competition was not posted on the 16th, it was created on the 16th and moved at a later date. This is in line with departmental policy. The aim is to fill this small gap with more departmental competitions. community cohesion, interdepartmental co-operation as well as the opportunity for departments to have the spotlight for a bit rather than the forum be filled with other competitions as is the case at its peak time.

Competitions will start again on the 1st and I hope to see you all enter when they do. :)

[FlyingJesus]

Sooooo the monthly run is we have 10 comps scattered through 3 weeks and then a week off to sort them out

What happened to this department

[xxMATTGxx]

Not doing stuff at the end of the month is ******* ******ed. Could you imagine if the moderators all just buggered off for the last three days of the month because they're too busy picking MOTM?

Brilliant example lmfao. I never really understood the gap but hey ho.

[James]

The last comp posted was on the 16th, 12 days ago
They get posted in the staff forum to be approved before moving out, so it could have been written on the 16th then moved out on the 22nd, for example.

[FlyingJesus]

In that case the last time anyone in the department did some work was the 16th

[Martin]

I'm sure Mike already knows that I really don't like the "gap at the end of the month" and I've always made that clear when talking about it.

I think perhaps it may have worked better in the past when the community was more active and there was lots to do, but these days a significant break in competitions like this really just makes the place seem even quieter I guess.

It's been proved before that the administration stuff can be done quite easily alongside competitions being out at the end of the month, it just requires some slight reshuffling.

If the gaps purpose is to provide an opportunity for other departments to create competitions, then this needs to be enforced more as this month has proved that it simply isn't working. Although I also think that managers have more to worry about their own departments in terms of activity than doing the competitions departments job for them right now! :P Using the example above it would be like getting other departments to moderate the forum for a few days :P

I know it's only a few days and the last week of the month but personally I think it works much better without the gap and provides a nice transition into the next month.

[FlyingJesus]

Let's make an action plan about it

[Inseriousity.]

It is my own personal preference to have a gap. I imagine future managers will make their own decisions about the month's structure but that is mine. The gap is usually only 3 days maximum but this month was a rather turbulent time for the department in terms of staff turnover so things slipped a bit in that regard. For June, there will be no gap because of an event the department is planning to host.

[MKR&*42]

The gap at the end of the month was there for ages until Yupt changed it for a while, why the hell did none of you notice that for so long?

Anyway, I'm not sure what I think. I believe a gap is the problem but both Shonly; and I used to agree that trying to make a competitions [admin] calendar including competitions that overlapped months was difficult to manage.

[FlyingJesus]

The gap at the end of the month was there for ages until Yupt changed it for a while, why the hell did none of you notice that for so long?

Because before that comps was a joke of a department overall, not just certain aspects of it :P

[Inseriousity.]

lmao comps won best department 2010 (back when Habbox was actually pretty decent in terms of activity) and had the tiny gap for that whole year and the year after that. For someone who's pretty smart, you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

[MKR&*42]

Shots fiyad

[-Nick]

Great to see people moaning when they don't enter competitions themselfs.

A) You're dulling the department
B) It doesn't concern you if you do not even use it.
C) Why don't you apply to turn things around in the department.

[Martin]

Great to see people moaning when they don't enter competitions themselfs.

A) You're dulling the department
B) It doesn't concern you if you do not even use it.
C) Why don't you apply to turn things around in the department.


Just because someone doesn't use a certain feature at Habbox does NOT mean they are not entitled to offer their own opinions/feedback on it. Especially when they may have used it plenty in the past before you were even active and know exactly how it works.

Anyone is entitled to voice their opinions regardless and defensive attitude towards the community from staff members actually "dulls" the department more. I think it's good that people are free to say what they think, and if you don't agree that's fine, but it's up to them whether they play a proactive part in helping or whether they are simply just offering an opinion.

[Samantha]

Great to see people moaning when they don't enter competitions themselfs.

A) You're dulling the department
B) It doesn't concern you if you do not even use it.
C) Why don't you apply to turn things around in the department.

Are you actually being serious?

A. Habbox has gradually died over the years and there are less and less active members - you need to consider that a lot of our members have now grown up and are growing apart from Habbox, but still come on the forum just for the community and the interaction between friends. Those complaining are not dulling the department, they are expressing their views and giving feedback.

B. Great way to get more entries! I enter competitions if they interest me and the idea hasn't been recycled 200 times before, so that means I shouldn't express my view as I'm not really interested in entering at the moment?

C. I wish you'd stop repeating yourself, yeah spamming habbox.com/comps is funny at every given moment, but trying to drill that the competitions department are doing bad on numbers is a little boring. You should be getting people to join because it's a fun department, not bribe people with rep and then turn on them when they don't want to apply!

[FlyingJesus]

lmao comps won best department 2010 (back when Habbox was actually pretty decent in terms of activity) and had the tiny gap for that whole year and the year after that. For someone who's pretty smart, you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

Well done a department with lots of staff got an award that staff vote for. Also 2 weeks still isn't a tiny gap, and your plan of stopping things while supposedly doing the admin as opposed to carrying on with a system that was extremely successful is daft

[Inseriousity.]

- Comps is one of the small departments so would be at a distinct disadvantage during any awards ceremony.
- The gap is usually 3 days.
- It was changed to the current system in 2010. Before that, there used to be only 9 competitions a month and they'd all last a month. Entries were around the 100 mark. The system which included the gap eventually resulted in a consistent 500 entries every month. This was changed by future management to cover the gap (their own choice) but entries started to decrease. I restored the gap in April (as I said due to personal preference) but entries are still low. Essentially, there is little evidence that gap/no gap has any significant impact on the success of the department and that other factors are more important.

[Lewis]

I don't see the problem with the gap of a couple of days on the 28 days+ months, but any more is pushing it.

I don't think events staff have to host during those times either (although it'd be very good if they did), but that might've changed. Dunno how the other depts work.

[Kyle]

it's very sad to see previouslydedicated members and ex staff slowly lose faith in habbox

[_HeyyItsHannah_]

It's the end of the month. There is only 3 staff including both managers (which are not away at the moment). All three of us have eleven competitions each to produce this month so thats 33 competitions which will be out this month. That's basically one a day. It's the calendar changeover period. It's the end of the month !:random!:!; and I am 100% certain more than 2 competitions have been posted this month (May). Maybe you could help us out and apply to produce more competitions for the community?

Um.. Helloo??? I'm kind of in the department too thanks....

[Nick]

woah nick you forgot heyitshannah! ..

I have to agree kyle :(

[Kyle]

omg at hannah being forgotten hahahaha

[-Nick]

Um.. Helloo??? I'm kind of in the department too thanks....
Your posted away for a month. Mike and Sho are also posted away (I believe). So I am the only one supposedly in the department who is not away.

[MKR&*42]

Um.. Helloo??? I'm kind of in the department too thanks....

Omg lmao, poor Hannah.

[Matt]

I am the only one supposedly in the department who is not away.

that would explain why you seem to be posting as if you run the department then :rolleyes:


Great to see people moaning when they don't enter competitions themselfs.

A) You're dulling the department
B) It doesn't concern you if you do not even use it.
C) Why don't you apply to turn things around in the department.

That post in itself makes the department look bad.

Feedback is to try and help point out the areas that need improving, not for a loan staff member to take the defensive and start telling people that they're 'dulling the department' simply because they are highlighting the fact that comps isn't doing too well. Just because they don't enter doesn't mean they shouldn't be commenting on it's performance.... what even.

I'd take a step back and maybe let management sort this one out.


Let's hope staff numbers will eventually increase which will see a few more competitions being released. I think, for the amount of staff the department does have, it's done ok. It's not like there's been 0 comps for an entire month.

[-Nick]

that would explain why you seem to be posting as if you run the department then :rolleyes:


If all 3 of them are away who is going to give reasons? :rolleyes:

[Martin]

If all 3 of them are away who is going to give reasons? :rolleyes:

Maybe someone who knows what the hell they're talking about/does not just attack the members without accepting their opinions?

Or maybe even the community agm who oversees the department? :P

Or maybe nobody and members can be free to express their opinions without every single one of them being attacked pointlessly? :O

All you did was turn around some constructive feedback and make it seem as if it's the communities fault, without offering any proper explanation on the topic yourself!

[Inseriousity.]

I never really posted away. I had a short trip to London but apart from Thursday when we all travelled home, there was still enough time to do things. I do not agree with Nick in this case but I would hope to see you all enter some competitions next month if you cared enough to get your point across. :)

[-Nick]

Maybe someone who knows what the hell they're talking about/does not just attack the members without accepting their opinions?

Or maybe even the community agm who oversees the department? :P

Or maybe nobody and members can be free to express their opinions without every single one of them being attacked pointlessly? :O

All you did was turn around some constructive feedback and make it seem as if it's the communities fault, without offering any proper explanation on the topic yourself!

All I said was I don't get why people give feedback when they don't even use what the department offers. How would they know if they don't use it?

It's like us (british) getting involved in foreign affairs when in some subjects we have nothing to do with them. Fair enough if we are trying to keep peace - but is it necessary? But that's off-topic. But fair enough if you are giving constructive feedback but the majority of these feedback threads turn into digging on people - the way i see it.

[Martin]

All I said was I don't get why people give feedback when they don't even use what the department offers. How would they know if they don't use it?

It's like us (british) getting involved in foreign affairs when in some subjects we have nothing to do with them.


There could be many reasons why people don't use it, tbh most people aren't using it right now and that's part of a more general issue. Just because they don't enter competitions doesn't really mean they aren't entitled to offer feedback. A lot of us have used it plenty in the past, or have been in management positions within/above it so know exactly how it works. It's not exactly a department which changes radically very often (which is a good thing). :P

You don't have to enter competitions to be able to form an opinion or know how the department works. You enter competitions because you want to, or because you have an interest in winning the prize, which perhaps some people simply do not! :O I'll be honest, the main time I would enter competitions would be when I've been reminded to or seen something which triggers me to enter one. I have plenty of other stuff to be thinking about and it's quite easy to forget! :P

I don't make a habit of breaking forum rules, but if I wanted to offer feedback on a particular rule I still would!


I'm sorry if I came across as a bit harsh, I just think it was slightly unfair the way you were dismissing people's opinions like that as just "moaning" rather than actually taking the time to read the feedback and offer a reasonable constructive counter argument.

[Red]

Can we have some vip comps please. When I last looked they were only credit ones.

[Inseriousity.]

We will try to include more VIP competitions next month (you're right, only 2 months were given away last month). You can sign up to receive a notification of when VIP competitions are released by clicking here (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=825706&p=8377814#post8377814).

[Martin]

We will try to include more VIP competitions next month (you're right, only 2 months were given away last month). You can sign up to receive a notification of when VIP competitions are released by clicking here (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=825706&p=8377814#post8377814).

I think varying the prizes a bit would be a good step forwards too yes. :P If I'm not mistaken I think all of the competitions during May bar 1 or 2 all offered the prize "5 credits & 10 rep"

Also is there any reason the rep prize for all competitions has been lowered from 15 to 10? Anyone would think there was a rep quota or something! :P


I take it the icons that were made to display the prize of each competition are no longer being used also?


The announcement about comps subscriptions says it used to be in place a couple of years ago, but I'm sure it's been in effect since then? Good to see the system is being reused again though :P I will be signing up!

[Inseriousity.]

Prizes are decided based on the competitions themselves. VIP is usually reserved for those competitions that require a bit more effort and/or monthly comps like graphics or story-writing. If they are easy to enter then they're given a small credit prize so it's really just a case of varying what competitions we offer and the prizes will follow suit.

Habit.

I like the concept of icons but I'm not a fan of the current ones. I think they're ugly tbh (no offence to whoever made them).

[Kyle]

All I said was I don't get why people give feedback when they don't even use what the department offers. How would they know if they don't use it?

It's like us (british) getting involved in foreign affairs when in some subjects we have nothing to do with them. Fair enough if we are trying to keep peace - but is it necessary? But that's off-topic. But fair enough if you are giving constructive feedback but the majority of these feedback threads turn into digging on people - the way i see it.
Terrible analogy that shows you are uneducated in both global politics and general progress.

It is very often the case that the most useful feedback to improve a service and extend its reach comes from those that don't currently use it. I don't see you popping up in threads about the radio claiming that because people don't listen to it anymore or aren't DJs that their opinion isn't valid or that people that aren't staff can't comment on how the site is run. The "well, why don't you join and help us?" attitude that sometimes crops up is really rather annoying because not only is it just not that simple but it also devalues the part that honest critical outsiders play.

Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfils the same function as pain in the human body; it calls attention to the development of an unhealthy state of things. - Churchill 1939

Nick, shut up - you're an idiot. - Me 2015

[Samantha]

If all 3 of them are away who is going to give reasons? :rolleyes:

I think you need to reread the thread as they have replied countless times :rolleyes:.

[FlyingJesus]

All I said was I don't get why people give feedback when they don't even use what the department offers. How would they know if they don't use it?

Observation. I don't support Liverpool but I still know they're crap

[-Nick]

I think you need to reread the thread as they have replied countless times :rolleyes:.
So what if they are replying? I seem you online when posted away. Same with most Staff.

[Samantha]

So what if they are replying? I seem you online when posted away. Same with most Staff.


If all 3 of them are away who is going to give reasons? :rolleyes:

Bit of a contradiction there :).

I never questioned their away time, but you assumed that because they are away they can't give answers to the questions being asked when they have been doing fine!

[-Nick]

Bit of a contradiction there :).

I never questioned their away time, but you assumed that because they are away they can't give answers to the questions being asked when they have been doing fine!
I don't know what the reasons were for their away time. I gave answers for the thread creator... I thought we were all entitled for feedback. Awks

[Samantha]

I don't know what the reasons were for their away time. I gave answers for the thread creator... I thought we were all entitled for feedback. Awks

I would really appreciate you not coming up with crap that I haven't said! I never begrudged you giving feedback (even if some people don't agree with it), but you assumed that because that because they were away they couldn't answer the questions, I was informing you that as a matter of fact they have been replying and answering them. It doesn't really matter if you don't know why they're away - what matters is the accusations and assumptions you're throwing around in this thread and of course making it seem like it's our fault for competitions not doing too well at the moment!

At the end of the day, Becky asked a question and it was answered many pages back, the management themselves have replied with the way they do things and then feedback and constructive criticism has been based around that. Hopefully though, some people will apply because they want to and we will see more competitions being released and see that bigger competition/event next month.

[!:random!:!]

Just gunna say, i get everyone's point here but my feedback was mainly because i enter the competitions which was why i was asking...

[Bloop]

Typical -nick acting like he owns habbox next thing you know hes gonna send apologies out again

Edited by mdport. (Forum Super Moderator): Please stay on topic

[-Nick]

Typical -nick acting like he owns habbox next thing you know hes gonna send apologies out again
I gave an answer which was correct in the first couple of posts. Forgot people were entitled to opinions. Giving an explanation isn't acting like i own Habbox... Simply the truth :/

[Empired]

I gave an answer which was correct in the first couple of posts. Forgot people were entitled to opinions. Giving an explanation isn't acting like i own Habbox... Simply the truth :/
How come you get so defensive when other people question your right to give feedback but whenever anyone else attempts to offer their opinion you tell them their thoughts are invalid?

I currently do not enter competitions but I have done in the past. Perhaps listening to feedback as to why people don't currently enter comps and what would make them enter comps in the future would be beneficial? How on earth are you supposed to discover how to get people more interested in your department if you won't listen to anyone?

I would like to enter competitions but to be honest I just completely forget about them. I've had a competitions subscription before but I didn't like it partly because it didn't work very well (I often received the VM after the competition had ended/with only a day or so left to enter, and sometimes I got reminders for competitions I hadn't subscribed to) and partly because that didn't really inspire me to take part.
I would enter competitions if I had someone actually taking the time to ask me to take part. I know that's a bore and is more time consuming, but I will always ignore mass messages whether they're from the Competitions department or from HabboxLive because I hate how impersonal it is.

And a personal touch really does work if you ask me:
The Articles department had an Agony Aunt set up by Krazybethw but it was a flop because no one sent in any questions. I'm attempting to bring this back and have received eight questions since starting it up on Monday or Tuesday (minus the three days I was away for) just because I've been round asking people one-on-one on Skype or on Habbo to get their questions in. What's the difference between the two techniques? One was using a banner in a signature and expecting people to be interested whilst one went out and forced encouraged ((A)) people to be interested. A signature might have worked 5 years ago but it's not good enough anymore.

(This is a great moment to say if you have any burning questions you'd like answered by Habbox's Guest Agony Aunt, send me a PM or contact me on Habbo or something because I'd love to hear from you:¬:).

Habbox's activity is dwindling and departments cannot expect members to come to them anymore; we need to go out and actually get people to take an interest in us by using a good old fashioned method called speaking to people.

[Samantha]

I gave an answer which was correct in the first couple of posts. Forgot people were entitled to opinions. Giving an explanation isn't acting like i own Habbox... Simply the truth :/

No you did answer it somewhat in your first post (albeit it wasn't all correct, but you got the gist of it). However, it was then when the actual feedback started as Becky's question was answered fully that you started to jump on people's opinions and I believe that's where he thinks you sounded like you owned Habbox.

[Lewis]

How come you get so defensive when other people question your right to give feedback but whenever anyone else attempts to offer their opinion you tell them their thoughts are invalid?

I currently do not enter competitions but I have done in the past. Perhaps listening to feedback as to why people don't currently enter comps and what would make them enter comps in the future would be beneficial? How on earth are you supposed to discover how to get people more interested in your department if you won't listen to anyone?

I would like to enter competitions but to be honest I just completely forget about them. I've had a competitions subscription before but I didn't like it partly because it didn't work very well (I often received the VM after the competition had ended/with only a day or so left to enter, and sometimes I got reminders for competitions I hadn't subscribed to) and partly because that didn't really inspire me to take part.
I would enter competitions if I had someone actually taking the time to ask me to take part. I know that's a bore and is more time consuming, but I will always ignore mass messages whether they're from the Competitions department or from HabboxLive because I hate how impersonal it is.

And a personal touch really does work if you ask me:
The Articles department had an Agony Aunt set up by Krazybethw but it was a flop because no one sent in any questions. I'm attempting to bring this back and have received eight questions since starting it up on Monday or Tuesday (minus the three days I was away for) just because I've been round asking people one-on-one on Skype or on Habbo to get their questions in. What's the difference between the two techniques? One was using a banner in a signature and expecting people to be interested whilst one went out and forced encouraged ((A)) people to be interested. A signature might have worked 5 years ago but it's not good enough anymore.

(This is a great moment to say if you have any burning questions you'd like answered by Habbox's Guest Agony Aunt, send me a PM or contact me on Habbo or something because I'd love to hear from you:¬:).

Habbox's activity is dwindling and departments cannot expect members to come to them anymore; we need to go out and actually get people to take an interest in us by using a good old fashioned method called speaking to people.

what is agony aunt, is there a thread for it?

ot: I agree empired, there needs to be more communication between people rather than signatures, spamming, etc

[Empired]

what is agony aunt, is there a thread for it?

ot: I agree empired, there needs to be more communication between people rather than signatures, spamming, etc
Not yet :) just waiting on gfx and waiting for our guest aunt to answer questions :) hoping to publish the first article in a week or two.

And if the current aunt ever gets bored or gets too busy I would be looking to open applications so anyone could apply to be habbox's agony aunt for one month.

[e5]

(This is a great moment to say if you have any burning questions you'd like answered by Habbox's Guest Agony Aunt, send me a PM or contact me on Habbo or something because I'd love to hear from you:¬:).



no, because this is too impersonal :D