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-:Undertaker:-
03-06-2015, 08:31 PM
http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/liberal-students-are-terrifying-their-liberal-professors/

Left-wing students are terrifying their own left-wing professors


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Modern progressive college students have become so militant they’re frightening their own like-minded professors, according to an account posted by one such professor on the website Vox (http://www.vox.com/2015/6/3/8706323/college-professor-afraid).

The professor, using the pseudonym Edward Schlosser, claims to have taught for nine years and currently works at a midsize state college. Over that time, he says, students have decisively shifted to become so protective of their fragile emotions that defying their sensibilities can be ”suicidal” for one’s career.

“Things have changed since I started teaching,” Schlosser writes. “The vibe is different. I wish there were a less blunt way to put this, but my students sometimes scare me — particularly the liberal ones.”

In the past, Schlosser says, he had a limited ability to confess his own political leanings in a class discussion, and he had no worries about exposing students to challenging texts and ideas if he thought it was appropriate for the class. Today, however, the danger is very real, especially for professors who haven’t received tenure yet.

“I once saw an adjunct not get his contract renewed after students complained that he exposed them to ‘offensive’ texts written by Edward Said and Mark Twain,” he says. “That was enough to get me to comb through my syllabi and cut out anything I could see upsetting a coddled undergrad, texts ranging from Upton Sinclair to Maureen Tkacik — and I wasn’t the only one who made adjustments, either.”

The shift in attitudes doesn’t just menace professors, but also undermines the education of students, Schlosser says. Students are no longer learning to challenge their own beliefs, and in fact are learning to lash out at those who penetrate their ideological bubble.

Schlosser’s anonymous account is the second account in the past week by a liberal professor describing an increasingly hostile relationship with their own students. Last Friday, Laura Kipnis of Northwestern described the “inquisition” (http://chronicle.com/article/My-Title-IX-Inquisition/230489/?key=HG4gdAI5NSFLM31gZT8SZD0GandvYk4nZXdIbnkjbl9WE A==) she endured after students complained about article she wrote criticizing the ”sexual paranoia” (http://chronicle.com/article/Sexual-Paranoia-Strikes/190351/) of modern universities.

Although himself of liberal sympathies, Schlosser blames the current environment on “cultural studies and social justice writers.”

“Their manifestations online… have led to adoption of a totalizing, simplistic, unworkable, and ultimately stifling conception of social justice,” he says. If that conception isn’t somehow moderated, he says, the final result is inevitable: a surge of “tremendous” conservative electoral backlash.

Read the full essay here (http://www.vox.com/2015/6/3/8706323/college-professor-afraid).

I experienced this in a philsophy class, or rather heard of it, of our professor who months earlier had got into very hot water as some left-wing students had complained about him using moral questions such as rape, abortion, murder and race in moral and philosophical discussion... so much so that he apparently since then had severely moderated his class and was scared to give any radical moral dilemmas to the class. The irony of course is not only are you in university which is supposed to be for such things (or at least was pre-1960s) but it's a philosophy and ethics class.

Look on this forum too to see how crazed the left/liberals/progressives have become. If you say, as I do, that mass immigration isn't a sensible idea you are immediately attacked not by any argument or reason, but by accusations of racism and abuse as though that is the ultimate sin and wins the argument. It doesn't occur in the mind of a left-winger that actually their opponents might have some valid concerns over uncontrolled borders. And it's the same when you try talking to them about civil liberties, the married family, sovereignty or social cohesion: you just get a blank face back or the response that none of these things matter.

It's scary, although as the liberal professor in the article says, the harder they keep pushing the harder the conservative backlash will be.

Thoughts?

Empired
03-06-2015, 08:49 PM
There have always been people like this and there always will be. The difference now is that they've been given a "voice" on the internet which makes them feel like they're finally really being listened to. And their confidence grows as they find each other on tumblr and start to believe that everyone should think like they do. It's no surprise; it's always happened. Don't get why this is a Current Affair apart from how someone wrote a fresh essay on it.

FlyingJesus
03-06-2015, 09:03 PM
lmao that Sims picture, I literally snorted aloud and my dad looked at me funny

I don't think the issue is that "the liberals" have gotten more crazy (these types have almost ALWAYS existed through history), it's that these people are now given legal precedent and top PR over ridiculous matters and so they've gone from folk you can easily dismiss and laugh at out of the window to dangerously overpowered faceless tropes

Inseriousity.
03-06-2015, 09:16 PM
This seems pot calling the kettle black here. I haven't clicked the links yet but some of them read like the professors are writing articles and then not being able to defend their point of view. This sort of thing shouldn't scare them, this should make them use it more if they're getting more of a reaction out of students and actually engaging them. The emotions thing is such a ridiculous argument. Liberals and conservatives have ideals and principles even if it is often argued that the opposite side do not. Students with radical leanings are less likely to break away from those and I don't really think emotions have anything to do with it unless you count passion.

In my own experience, students were rather scared of challenging the teachers and so they loved it when you did. I remember a philosophy class where I argued that a philosophy question ('what is beauty?') wasn't important while everyone else was just regurgitating what they thought the teacher wanted them to say. After the initial shock had subsided, he seemed quite animated to get the opportunity to defend his point of view. Academics are bound to get criticised, the finger of blame needs to be pointed at them if it scares them when their students do likewise.

-:Undertaker:-
03-06-2015, 09:24 PM
@Inseriousity (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=15792); It isn't that I or the professor are complaining that students aren't challenging, but rather it is the fact that many students/social justice warriors/left wingers now believe that any opposition to their own opinions ought to be silenced. I have said before I found university to be a closed shop, and I remember a spooky and sinister time a member of the Yorkshire Police came into a lecture and told the room - full of professors and students none of which responded or showed any disagreement - to report anyone they knew who had objections to homosexuality and issues that surround it. I couldn't believe what I was hearing.

You only have to look at the unbelievable example of that SJW in a British university who called for all white men to be killed and who barred them from a general meeting, she's actually had her job given back. Had she come out against homosexual relations for example, do you think she'd have lasted this long in her post? More than likely not only would she be removed from her post within days, she'd also have a knock on the door from the now-political Police just as we did the other week over the former South African flag.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/11633305/University-union-officer-who-wrote-kill-all-white-men-tweet-will-remain-in-post.html

Why do the left profess tolerance and diversity but are so intolerant of anyone who opposes their dogma and has an opinion that is diverse to their own?

Kyle
03-06-2015, 10:53 PM
Emotion is very much a focal point now more than ever where discussion on philosophy, culture, identity politics, etc is concerned. It's quite unnerving to know that these people do actually exist beyond their online manifestations and the call out culture this writer talks about is only growing. People will find anything to have a whinge about and I do worry for those too frightened to offer up anything that might be seen as unsettling, especially if it might endanger their job. Freedom of speak seems like a bit of an ironic joke lately.

peteyt
03-06-2015, 11:40 PM
This reminds me of Anonymous who have went against and tried to silence people with views they didn't agree with while at the same time trying to promote people's freedom of expression. A lot of people state they believe in the freedom of expression until they hear someone with an opinion they don't agree with.

If someone believes that no one from overseas should be allowed into the UK, they have a right to that opinion. It's different if they start being violent and breaking laws, but it's not illegal to have an opinion, it just depends on how you act on it and most people don't understand this.

People should realise that not everyone will agree with everything

dbgtz
03-06-2015, 11:59 PM
lmao that Sims picture, I literally snorted aloud and my dad looked at me funny

I don't think the issue is that "the liberals" have gotten more crazy (these types have almost ALWAYS existed through history), it's that these people are now given legal precedent and top PR over ridiculous matters and so they've gone from folk you can easily dismiss and laugh at out of the window to dangerously overpowered faceless tropes

I think it's safe to say that these people are not liberals


@Inseriousity (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=15792); It isn't that I or the professor are complaining that students aren't challenging, but rather it is the fact that many students/social justice warriors/left wingers now believe that any opposition to their own opinions ought to be silenced. I have said before I found university to be a closed shop, and I remember a spooky and sinister time a member of the Yorkshire Police came into a lecture and told the room - full of professors and students none of which responded or showed any disagreement - to report anyone they knew who had objections to homosexuality and issues that surround it. I couldn't believe what I was hearing.

You only have to look at the unbelievable example of that SJW in a British university who called for all white men to be killed and who barred them from a general meeting, she's actually had her job given back. Had she come out against homosexual relations for example, do you think she'd have lasted this long in her post? More than likely not only would she be removed from her post within days, she'd also have a knock on the door from the now-political Police just as we did the other week over the former South African flag.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/11633305/University-union-officer-who-wrote-kill-all-white-men-tweet-will-remain-in-post.html

Why do the left profess tolerance and diversity but are so intolerant of anyone who opposes their dogma and has an opinion that is diverse to their own?

The only reason she's not being fired is because not enough people voted for no confidence since nobody cares about student politics.

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