Jerry Seinfeld: Politically correct students 'dont know what they're talking about'

[-:Undertaker:-]

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Jerry Seinfeld: Politically correct students 'don't know what they're talking about'

Being PC hurts comedy, says the comedian, who won't play to university audiences


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Jerry Seinfeld says that political correctness is hurting comedy



Jerry Seinfeld has ruled out playing university audiences because they are too politically correct – and he counts the entire younger generation in that.

While Seinfeld was promoting his internet show Comedians In Cars Getting Coffee on a sports radio show, DJ Colin Cowherd said that Chris Rock and other comics steered clear of student audiences because of political correctness.

Seinfeld said, "I hear that all the time. I don't play colleges but I hear a lot of people telling me they're so PC."

When asked if political correctness hurt comedy, Seinfeld replied, "Yes it does."

He added that comedians like Louis CK, whose Saturday Night Live monologue (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/comedy/comedy-news/11612133/Louis-CK-divides-SNL-audience-with-child-abuse-jokes.html)about paedophilia and racism caused something of a stir last month, avoided problems because he "doesn't care".

“Everybody has their hot zone. Their heat map. Those are the jokes you do. For me, I talk about the subjects I talk about because for some reason, I can make them funny.”

Seinfeld described his 14-year-old daughter saying that her mother's suggestion she might one day spend time with boys on weekends was "sexist".

“They just want to use these words," he said. "‘That’s racist. That’s sexist. That’s prejudice.’ They don’t know what the [bleep] they’re talking about.”

Boy is he right, and boy could you apply it to university and people on this forum. I remember I posted about the Fashion Police-Zendaya controversy and people on here actually said it was offensive. Oh boo hoo. The truth is, PC goons need to be treated like the modern-day lepers they are.

I offend you? Good.

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and here's what tumblr has to say about it:
"BREAKING: Middle-Aged Male Celebrity Whines Because He Can’t Tell Racist Jokes Without People Calling Him Out"
"if ur funny it shouldn’t be too hard to avoid making jokes at the expense of others"
whilst simultaneously fawning over Tina Fey and her sidekick Amy whose jokes revolve around mocking men.......

[AgnesIO]

Whilst I see the angle he is coming from, is it not a little odd to group an entire group of almost totally unrelated people together? That's like me claiming I won't present to audiences if they are all working class because they are all stupid? There isn't any correlation to go by...

[Kyle]

Jerry Seinfeld is one of the funniest men alive. I'm getting a bit sick of this political correctness lark, it's getting to the point where if you call someone black you're racist and if you look at a woman you're raping her. Just the other day an established professor was fired for reading a poem about homosexuality to his class lmfao what ever next.

[AgnesIO]

Jerry Seinfeld is one of the funniest men alive. I'm getting a bit sick of this political correctness lark, it's getting to the point where if you call someone black you're racist and if you look at a woman you're raping her. Just the other day an established professor was fired for reading a poem about homosexuality to his class lmfao what ever next.

Go on, bring the evidence.

[Kyle]

Go on, bring the evidence.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/05/28/award-winning-teacher-fired-for-reading-an-allen-ginsberg-poem.html?via=desktop&source=twitter
it's a rather graphic poem but it is censorship nonetheless!
funny that it is an allen ginsberg poem considering the storm that howl caused in its day

[Empired]

Jerry Seinfeld is one of the funniest men alive. I'm getting a bit sick of this political correctness lark, it's getting to the point where if you call someone black you're racist and if you look at a woman you're raping her.
But as a counter argument it's also got to the point where people blame entire groups of other people (e.g the generalisation that all university students are too PC is a bit of a stretch, don't you think?) when that's not the case at all. This works both ways: some Tumblr users (feminazis and SJWs) need to stop being so butthurt over everything but other groups need to stop blaming everyone who doesn't agree with them.
Isn't there the tiniest teeniest possibility that your jokes aren't funny and it has nothing to do with political correctness? Especially when they're told in that passive aggressive kind of way that's saying "I dare you to complain about my jokes" than "aren't I funny?". But at the same time isn't there the teeniest tiniest possibility that you're overreacting and that joke about women making a sandwich was meant to be just that: a harmless joke?

(The word "you" is general rather than me speaking to one person in particular here)

There was a thread made a few weeks ago about where you draw the line when it comes to comedy (was it made by you kyle?) and some people have lines where, when crossed, they don't find the joke funny anymore. And that's fine?? Obviously there's a difference between those people and SJWs but some people don't want to see that. I think it's unfair to say all- or even most- University students are too PC just because they don't find some of your jokes funny.

I don't care either way. I enjoy some "edgier" comedy that would probably make a tumblr feminazi flip but sometimes it's just not to my taste. Still not gonna be outraged by it, I'll just turn off the TV.

Just sick of this blame game where it always seems to be somebody else's fault and everyone's competing to be the most outraged:
"all men tell sexist jokes and I'm outraged by that"
"all women are outraged by my jokes and I'm outraged that they don't find me funny"

[-:Undertaker:-]

Whilst I see the angle he is coming from, is it not a little odd to group an entire group of almost totally unrelated people together? That's like me claiming I won't present to audiences if they are all working class because they are all stupid? There isn't any correlation to go by...

it's that kind of political correctness he's talking about.

it's like whenever we have discussiosn on islam, some moron just has to point out "not all muslims are terrorists" as though we didnt ******* know that.

[GommeInc]

Whilst I see the angle he is coming from, is it not a little odd to group an entire group of almost totally unrelated people together? That's like me claiming I won't present to audiences if they are all working class because they are all stupid? There isn't any correlation to go by...
Because quite a lot of University students play sheep and follow one another. A few Universities and Student Unions I am aware of and have actively seen get involved in scaring guests off campus would follow certain "Officers" off a cliff if given the chance. They blind follow each other. They are a minority, but a very loud and aggressive minority who follow the popular idiots without really thinking what they are doing and the wider effects of their actions. While the majority of students just go about like any other ordinary person in society, you get the ones who just like to make a lot of noise and cause disruptions and conflicts.

So your example of working class people does not work. First and foremost because working class people are not all bunched together. They also do not follow the popular idiots who shout and bark the loudest, and are dead behind the eyes in terms of intelligence.

Universities are strange places. They try to popularise unpopular and dangerous things. "Safe spaces", for example, which in the real world do not exist because they do not need to. Apparently being gay or a woman means you're a target - by whom I really do not know, but according to these people these unknown but clearly dangerous members of the majority will kill you with white privileged thoughts!

[AgnesIO]

it's that kind of political correctness he's talking about.

it's like whenever we have discussiosn on islam, some moron just has to point out "not all muslims are terrorists" as though we didnt ******* know that.

"Jerry Seinfeld has ruled out playing university audiences because they are too politically correct – and he counts the entire younger generation in that."

He's the one claiming absolutely everyone comes under the same grouping, not me.

[Kyle]

But as a counter argument it's also got to the point where people blame entire groups of other people (e.g the generalisation that all university students are too PC is a bit of a stretch, don't you think?) when that's not the case at all. This works both ways: some Tumblr users (feminazis and SJWs) need to stop being so butthurt over everything but other groups need to stop blaming everyone who doesn't agree with them.
Isn't there the tiniest teeniest possibility that your jokes aren't funny and it has nothing to do with political correctness? Especially when they're told in that passive aggressive kind of way that's saying "I dare you to complain about my jokes" than "aren't I funny?". But at the same time isn't there the teeniest tiniest possibility that you're overreacting and that joke about women making a sandwich was meant to be just that: a harmless joke?

(The word "you" is general rather than me speaking to one person in particular here)

There was a thread made a few weeks ago about where you draw the line when it comes to comedy (was it made by you kyle?) and some people have lines where, when crossed, they don't find the joke funny anymore. And that's fine?? Obviously there's a difference between those people and SJWs but some people don't want to see that. I think it's unfair to say all- or even most- University students are too PC just because they don't find some of your jokes funny.

I don't care either way. I enjoy some "edgier" comedy that would probably make a tumblr feminazi flip but sometimes it's just not to my taste. Still not gonna be outraged by it, I'll just turn off the TV.

Just sick of this blame game where it always seems to be somebody else's fault and everyone's competing to be the most outraged:
"all men tell sexist jokes and I'm outraged by that"
"all women are outraged by my jokes and I'm outraged that they don't find me funny"
The jokes these people tell are funny in an objective sense though. They have all the ingredients of good jokes and use context and stereotypes appropriately. The only problem really comes with a lack of understanding or appreciation for some types of comedy. Louis CK has made millions of dollars from risque humour and is arguably the biggest stand up in the world and Seinfeld is worth almost a billion; the problem is not that people don't find them funny, it's that those that don't find them funny rally together baying for blood claiming to be [TRIGGEREd] and do everything they can to silence them. In the 1930s a great number of authors opposed to the ideology in the third reich were persecuted and had their works destroyed in the name of promoting Nazism and today we have great thinkers writers and entertainers like these men censoring themselves not for fear of disrupting the status quo but fear of losing their position in society. The internet generation unfortunately has the power to shape knowledge and to influence thought on right and wrong or funny and offensive. It's just smart to avoid performing for young folk with warped morals and political sway if you're an iconoclast.

[GommeInc]

That awkward moment where you over analyse jokes and question comedy, proving the comedians point :P

Comedy is about generalising and not being so serious. When I hear stupid white guy or stupid student jokes I know it's a joke. I don't begin analysing my self-worth or intelligence. I just take the joke for a joke. Stupid students.