Breastfeeding in public

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This debate seems to be big on social media recently, so I'm bringing the debate to Habbox!

Simple question: Do you think breast feeding in public is appropriate? Do you think breast feeding should be a private matter or do you think a baby's need is greater than any 'social rule' that currently surrounds breast feeding in public? Or maybe you think public breast feeding is okay, as long as the woman covers up her breast, like those in the above picture.

Whilst I personally would like to be able to breast feed whenever required, I know that I will probably be too embarrassed to do it even though it's so natural! But why should women have to feel ashamed and why should babies have to wait to be fed or have to be fed in dirty toilets because people think it's "wrong"? Should there should be more dedicated places for women to breast feed, thereby making everyone happy?

I won't bother giving arguments for/against as I'm sure we all have our own views on this topic but I will leave this video of a recent social experiment on public breastfeeding which highlights how it's not just men who find it inappropriate, but women too!


http://youtu.be/sKjO0jZWkx4

What do you personally believe and why do you think everyone has a different view surrounding this debate?


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[Joe]

I'm much better at debating in real life rather than having to type anything, but this is something I literally have no problem with and I can't full understand people that do actually have an issue with it. I feel like it's a natural part of life and I can't really see how it will put people off and they find it inappropriate - maybe the feel a little uncomfortable seeing a lady's breast but isn't that surely just the person having the issue of not being able to be near a breast?

[-:Undertaker:-]

I can't stand breastfeeding in public nor can I stand the strange campaign to push for this to be socially acceptable. Your tit doesn't belong on public show so put it away. It's just decent manners. As for the "its natural" argument a great deal of things are natural but we don't do them openly in public.

I'm not a puritan on this either. Haven't a problem with bikini tops being taken off on the beach. Haven't a problem with shirts off on the beach. But on a train or bus? No, it is rude and you should have consideration for other people. It's like in Spain whenever I leave the beach I will ALWAYS put my shirt on even if it is really hot out of respect for the locals. There's a time and a place for everything and pulling them out in public is not one of them.

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Your tit doesn't belong on public show so put it away.
no but it does belong on a baby and sometimes babies get hungry in public. what if the women covered up their breast whilst feeding, then surely it wouldn't be a problem?

[-:Undertaker:-]

no but it does belong on a baby and sometimes babies get hungry in public. what if the women covered up their breast whilst feeding, then surely it wouldn't be a problem?

I don't see why it can't wait until somewhere private. Why does it need to be there and then?

Just put it in a bottle (either using natural or powdered milk) if you're going out with a baby and it might get hungry. It isn't rocket science.

[buttons]

I don't see why it can't wait until somewhere private. Why does it need to be there and then?

Just put it in a bottle (either using natural or powdered milk) if you're going out with a baby and it might get hungry. It isn't rocket science.
well if your baby is hungry i dont see why they have to wait until u get a private space (which there isn't many of other than dirty public/restaurant toilets). not sure how easy it is to just to pump your boobies but sure, that makes sense. but breastfeeding can bring comfort/closeness to a baby so there's that aspect too, maybe both mum and baby would prefer breast feeding rather than bottle feeding.

[Empired]

Some women don't respond to breast pumps so bottled breastmilk (which is necessary for young babies) is sometimes just not feasible. Same as I would much rather have a woman breastfeed discretely on a bus than be stuck next to a screaming hungry baby because the woman is too embarrassed.

I watched that video in the OP on Tuesday and thought those men approaching a woman quietly breastfeeding a baby out of the way on a park bench was disgusting. And I don't support it because it's natural but because it's sometimes unavoidably necessary. Obviously whipping your tits out in the middle of a queue to feed your baby is unacceptable, but finding a quiet bench on the edge of a park or something is perfectly acceptable to me.

[OldLoveSong]

imo i do not want people watching me breastfeed whenever i get preg someday. i do not want randoms in the street or wherever i am looking at my tatas all out in the open, if anything using a cover is fine with me. i wouldnt want to see some girl without a shirt on the same way i wouldnt want to see sumone with their tits out feeding their baby. if u do not care about random people starring at your breasts then go ahead but i feel like you need to respect people around u in public places.

[.:Q99:.]

Get em out and get em fed!


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[abc]

Your tit doesn't belong on public show so put it away.

Men have tit.s. Men show them off indirectly all the time.

[GoldenMerc]

I can't stand breastfeeding in public nor can I stand the strange campaign to push for this to be socially acceptable. Your tit doesn't belong on public show so put it away. It's just decent manners. As for the "its natural" argument a great deal of things are natural but we don't do them openly in public.

I'm not a puritan on this either. Haven't a problem with bikini tops being taken off on the beach. Haven't a problem with shirts off on the beach. But on a train or bus? No, it is rude and you should have consideration for other people. It's like in Spain whenever I leave the beach I will ALWAYS put my shirt on even if it is really hot out of respect for the locals. There's a time and a place for everything and pulling them out in public is not one of them.

I agree with this, then people say the baby needs milk. Okay do the smart thing and pre-empt that and produce milk before you go out. I find it really off putting, I ALWAYS END UP WITH THEM SITTING NEXT TO ME ITS ANNOYING AS HELL.

But you notice, this is just a UK thing, do it anywhere else and you'd be treated like crap.

Personally as I said on twitter, I see no difference between this and public indecency

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I agree with this, then people say the baby needs milk. Okay do the smart thing and pre-empt that and produce milk before you go out. I find it really off putting, I ALWAYS END UP WITH THEM SITTING NEXT TO ME ITS ANNOYING AS HELL.

But you notice, this is just a UK thing, do it anywhere else and you'd be treated like crap.

Personally as I said on twitter, I see no difference between this and public indecency
yeah but not all women are just able to pump their breast and if a baby is used to breast feeding then it might be hard to get them to feed from a bottle

also it's not indecent to breastfeed! there are ways to cover up your breast whilst feeding. would you support building public facilities for women to breastfeed their baby?

if you go to somewhere like Africa, you see women topless all the time never mind breastfeeding! & other women breast feed people's children so it's normal there. it's just a socialised thing here to think it's 'indecent' imo

[GoldenMerc]

yeah but not all women are just able to pump their breast and if a baby is used to breast feeding then it might be hard to get them to feed from a bottle

also it's not indecent to breastfeed! there are ways to cover up your breast whilst feeding. would you support building public facilities for women to breastfeed their baby?

if you go to somewhere like Africa, you see women topless all the time never mind breastfeeding! & other women breast feed people's children so it's normal there. it's just a socialised thing here to think it's 'indecent' imo

Sure I'd support that if I paid tax's hahaha! Just make an adequate way to stop morons sitting on the dole their entire life and its paid off, plus yes thats Africa, a 3rd world country...

[Thordenhime]

Sure I'd support that if I paid tax's hahaha! Just make an adequate way to stop morons sitting on the dole their entire life and its paid off, plus yes thats Africa, a 3rd world country...

Africas a continent....Also to make another point who actually cares? Its not like they're waving a leaking tit in front of you going OH LOOK AT ME IM FEEDING MY HUNGRY CHILD!!!!

[Empired]

Africas a continent....Also to make another point who actually cares? Its not like they're waving a leaking tit in front of you going OH LOOK AT ME IM FEEDING MY HUNGRY CHILD!!!!
Yeah I agree because there is an actual reason for it? I hate that argument like "if men cant get their penises out then women shouldnt be able to get their tits out" like first of all why are male nipples acceptable while female nipples are not and secondly WHY are mens nipples acceptable when they don't even do anything when women would actually be feeding their children

[GoldenMerc]

Yeah I agree because there is an actual reason for it? I hate that argument like "if men cant get their penises out then women shouldnt be able to get their **** out" like first of all why are male nipples acceptable while female nipples are not and secondly WHY are mens nipples acceptable when they don't even do anything when women would actually be feeding their children

Sorry but I like women, but I don't fancy seeing saggy tits every time I walk through Coventry. Sorry to burst your bubble but that was a crap example


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[Empired]

Sorry but I like women, but I don't fancy seeing saggy tits every time I walk through Coventry. Sorry to burst your bubble but that was a crap example

I don't think women are gonna stop feeding their infant children in public because GoldenMerc "doesn't fancing seeing saggy tits every time [he] walk[s] through Coventry".

[FlyingJesus]

I don't really want to see ugly people out and about but that doesn't mean they're not allowed to exist. In fact I don't want to see anyone most of the time :P but yeah if it's just an aesthetic thing then it's not a very solid argument, really ought to be more to it than that otherwise we might as well discuss banning yellow shoes

[dbgtz]

If by public you don't include privately owned buildings etc., then I'm not fussed but I would also say it would be courteous to do it discreetly. In what is private property but open to the public (e.g. restaurant), then it's up to the company policy and that should be respected.

[Mrs_Plant]

Well I never get involved with these debates, but this one is right up my street.

As a mother myself, it is our responsibility to ensure that our children are fed, warm, happy and loved etc. So to hear people are constantly moaning about a baby being fed in public (i.e. park bench, cafe) is just ridiculous.

Yes people may not want to see a woman's breast on show, but if you actually pay attention all the women cover themselves to ensure that you can not see the whole thing going on. It is the most natural thing you will ever come across, just like you eating your dinner. If I was to come up to you and say "excuse me can you move or go somewhere else to eat your food" you would tell me to f off! Just like every mother should say to all of those out there that say the same thing about breastfeeding there child.
I'm pretty sure majority of you were breastfed as a child, so never seemed so wrong then. If a mother needs to feed there child then let them! I am sure you would rather a woman get there breast out, instead of having a baby cry cause there so hungry.
Yes women can prepare the milk before hand, but you do have to keep it chilled which can be harder when out and about, women can react to using a breast-pump making them in pain and sore, which is not ideal when having a little one. Women breastfeed not only to feed there little ones but to bond with there baby. It's the best way for a mother and baby to bond, the baby can hear the mothers heartbeat and knows it's there mom, they feel safe and comfort from this moment which everyone thinks is so wrong!

All I have to say if you don't like seeing a baby being fed, which is hardly ever seen due to the mother covering up, then move away! Don't go up to a mother and baby and tell them to move on because they are doing nothing wrong, that child is just eating there lunch like you would yours!

[Thordenhime]

Sorry but I like women, but I don't fancy seeing saggy **** every time I walk through Coventry. Sorry to burst your bubble but that was a crap example


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How is it fair that you as a man can walk around with a top off on the street yet a woman cant because its been sexualised by complete morons?,It says alot about you as a person if you'd actively stop a woman feeding and bonding with her child because you dont like to see saggy tits,I dont like one direction personally i think all boybands should be illegal but guess what we cant always get what we want.

[-:Undertaker:-]

How is it fair that you as a man can walk around with a top off on the street yet a woman cant because its been sexualised by complete morons?,It says alot about you as a person if you'd actively stop a woman feeding and bonding with her child because you dont like to see saggy ****,I dont like one direction

That's just a silly example isn't it, I know you're trying on a relativist argument where nothing can be firmly established but we all know that women's breasts are not the same as men's. Women know this too: if you walk into a women's changing room they'd cover up their breasts whilst the same cannot be said for men. We know there's a societal difference between the two so let's just stop it with the silly comparisons.

Also I think it's very insulting to the majority of men who aren't friends of Dorothy who do find women's breasts attractive to call them all complete morons. Heck, even I find breasts attractive - those beautiful imperial Greek-inspired statues in our cities - although that doesn't mean I want to see big Tina infront of me on my bus to work feeding her chav offspring with her leaky boobies.


i think all boybands should be illegal but guess what we cant always get what

I don't think we're really arguing in favour of Police, who are largely useless when it comes to enforcing the law, arresting women showing breasts in public. I think what those on my side here are objecting to is the insistence that we all socially accept that breastfeeding in public is right: because that ain't gonna happen.

[Thordenhime]

That's just a silly example isn't it, I know you're trying on a relativist argument where nothing can be firmly established but we all know that women's breasts are not the same as men's. Women know this too: if you walk into a women's changing room they'd cover up their breasts whilst the same cannot be said for men. We know there's a societal difference between the two so let's just stop it with the silly comparisons.

Also I think it's very insulting to the majority of men who aren't friends of Dorothy who do find women's breasts attractive to call them all complete morons. Heck, even I find breasts attractive - those beautiful imperial Greek-inspired statues in our cities - although that doesn't mean I want to see big Tina infront of me on my bus to work feeding her chav offspring with her leaky boobies.



I don't think we're really arguing in favour of Police, who are largely useless when it comes to enforcing the law, arresting women showing breasts in public. I think what those on my side here are objecting to is the insistence that we all socially accept that breastfeeding in public is right: because that ain't gonna happen.

Dont like women breastfeeding in public? ignore it,When you see a piece of dogshit in the middle of the road (not comparing women feeding they're hungry children to dogshit BTW) Do you go UGH THATS DISGUSTING WHAT KIND OF SOCIETY ALLOWS THIS no you just walk past it and ignore it,On another note that sentence about some feeding chav offspring is so offensive its unbelievable I often wonder if you are an actual human being or just a robot programmed to repeat everything lord fuher farage says.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Dont like women breastfeeding in public? ignore it,When you see a piece of dogshit in the middle of the road (not comparing women feeding they're hungry children to dogshit BTW) Do you go UGH THATS DISGUSTING WHAT KIND OF SOCIETY ALLOWS THIS no you just walk past it and ignore it,On another note that sentence about some feeding chav offspring is so offensive its unbelievable I often wonder if you are an actual human being or just a robot programmed to repeat everything lord fuher farage says.

well actually i have chased after people when they've let their dogs poo on the pavement and confronted them

it's passive weakness like you've just demonstrated in this post - twice - that allows the bad to triumph over the good and decent in society

[FlyingJesus]

When you see a piece of dogshit in the middle of the road (not comparing women feeding they're hungry children to dogshit BTW) Do you go UGH THATS DISGUSTING WHAT KIND OF SOCIETY ALLOWS THIS

Yes

[Thordenhime]

well actually i have chased after people when they've let their dogs poo on the pavement and confronted them

it's passive weakness like you've just demonstrated in this post - twice - that allows the bad to triumph over the good and decent in society

Yeah mate because dogshit and people breastfeeding their kids on the bus stop are signs of the rapture.

[Empired]

So can anyone come up with an argument against discreet breastfeeding in public past "IT'S DISGUSTING I AM OUTRAGED I DON'T WANT TO SEE IT" or not?

[Thordenhime]

I dunno, I got told by undertaker if women breastfeed in public there's a chance they'll combust into flames and be struck down by god

[-:Undertaker:-]

So can anyone come up with an argument against discreet breastfeeding in public past "IT'S DISGUSTING I AM OUTRAGED I DON'T WANT TO SEE IT" or not?

Well that is the whole argument much as it is (rightly) socially unacceptable to fart in public, to itch your crack and ballsack in public or to cough without covering your mouth in public. I'm objecting to the entire and rather bizzare push by bored feminists and social justice warriors to make pulling your breasts out in public socially acceptable: there's a time and a place for it and it isn't on the 311 bus.

[FlyingJesus]

Are you not allowed to fart on buses

[abc]

Are you not allowed to fart on buses

No, carries a 15 year jail term.

On topic: nothing wrong with this at all. Some people here are disgusted by woman breast feeding yet seem to not moan about a man and a woman kissing in public, people grinding each other in clubs, films showing hard core porn, popular TV shows like Game of Thrones full of nakedness... yet a woman breastfeeding is unacceptable? Hell I have seen naked old ladies on a beach, a guy fingering his girl friend on the beach and I haven't given a crap.

I am starting to think some people just moan for the sake of moaning.

[-:Undertaker:-]

No, carries a 15 year jail term.

On topic: nothing wrong with this at all. Some people here are disgusted by woman breast feeding yet seem to not moan about a man and a woman kissing in public, people grinding each other in clubs, films showing hard core porn, popular TV shows like Game of Thrones full of nakedness... yet a woman breastfeeding is unacceptable? Hell I have seen naked old ladies on a beach, a guy fingering his girl friend on the beach and I haven't given a crap.

I am starting to think some people just moan for the sake of moaning.

Why are you comparing sitting on a beach in skimpy clothes to pulling your breast out in public.

It's almost like you haven't read the debate at all because I even brought that example up saying that didn't bother me. Why? The context of it.

[Empired]

Well that is the whole argument much as it is (rightly) socially unacceptable to fart in public, to itch your crack and ballsack in public or to cough without covering your mouth in public. I'm objecting to the entire and rather bizzare push by bored feminists and social justice warriors to make pulling your breasts out in public socially acceptable: there's a time and a place for it and it isn't on the 311 bus.


Why are you comparing sitting on a beach in skimpy clothes to pulling your breast out in public.

It's almost like you haven't read the debate at all because I even brought that example up saying that didn't bother me. Why? The context of it.

Why are you comparing farting in public with breastfeeding?

Unless there's some magical new method of feeding infants which I haven't heard of yet, the two are totally different and that point is utterly irrelevant?

[-:Undertaker:-]

Why are you comparing farting in public with breastfeeding?

Unless there's some magical new method of feeding infants which I haven't heard of yet, the two are totally different and that point is utterly irrelevant?

To exemplify how there's certain things that are "natural" which you don't tend to do in public out of respect for others. Like whipping out a breast on the bus.

[.:TaylorSwift:]

Breastfeeding should be a public thing because how is it acceptable for a girl to show her her breasts for a sexy look. You all should be grateful that your mother even fed you. I will have no shame when the time comes because I see men running shirtless and I feel uncomfortable, but I won't ever say ewww put your nipples away

[abc]

To exemplify how there's certain things that are "natural" which you don't tend to do in public out of respect for others. Like whipping out a breast on the bus.

I also compared it to things like nakedness on TV Shows etc but you ignored that? You are extremely selective which is not this works.

A baby needs to be fed, let them be. It's not as if no one has seen breasts.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I also compared it to things like nakedness on TV Shows etc but you ignored that? You are extremely selective which is not this works.

I believe in a watershed on television... a voluntary one at that but still the principle of a watershed.

This weird fetish to have absolutely everything 'accepted' in society is so bizzare.


A baby needs to be fed, let them be. It's not as if no one has seen breasts.

Doesn't need to be in public.

It's not all "me me me my needs my wants grant me it" - there's something called consideration for other people in public or on transport for example when a baby is "naturally" crying, responsible mothers will take the baby away from people because that's being considerate to other members of the general public.

[abc]

I believe in a watershed on television... a voluntary one at that but still the principle of a watershed.

This weird fetish to have absolutely everything 'accepted' in society is so bizzare.



Doesn't need to be in public.

It's not all "me me me my needs my wants grant me it" - there's something called consideration for other people in public or on transport for example when a baby is "naturally" crying, responsible mothers will take the baby away from people because that's being considerate to other members of the general public.

So you do not watch TV after 9pm?

Sometimes it cannot be helped. I highly doubt a woman thinks "oh my baby needs to be breastfed, lets go out on the street to do it". No. It only occurs when the woman is traveling and therefore has to breastfeed the baby. Unless you propose no woman with a baby who needs to be breastfed should ever travel? Or should she let the baby starve and therefore cry - but if this happens she would be being inconsiderate to the general public. I guess a woman with a baby cannot win?

Besides, I have only seen like 2-3 women breastfeed in public in like a decade (and I travel A LOT). This is hardly a major issue.

There is no weird fetish to accept everything, instead it seems people are trying to segregate and isolate others. Given that you support UKIP this does not surprise me.

[MKR&*42]

I'd say in limited situations you shouldn't do it... e.g....a..business..meeting...why you would have a child there...i cannot answer, but yes I don't really see a problem with it at all.

[-:Undertaker:-]

So you do not watch TV after 9pm?

What? :S


Sometimes it cannot be helped. I highly doubt a woman thinks "oh my baby needs to be breastfed, lets go out on the street to do it". No. It only occurs when the woman is traveling and therefore has to breastfeed the baby. Unless you propose no woman with a baby who needs to be breastfed should ever travel? Or should she let the baby starve and therefore cry - but if this happens she would be being inconsiderate to the general public. I guess a woman with a baby cannot win?

She could make up a formula via powder or prepare some the night before.... as family members of mine have done raising their children. I mean it reallyyyyyyyyyyyy isn't that hard to do and frankly if that's beyond some woman to plan that far ahead then she shouldn't be raising children.


Besides, I have only seen like 2-3 women breastfeed in public in like a decade (and I travel A LOT). This is hardly a major issue.

I never said it was a major issue. The people who make a fuss about it and who keep bringing it up in public debates tend to be pro-breastfeeding campaigners who seem hellbent on having the rest of us think breastfeeding in public is wonderful. It's time somebody stated an objection to it.

I do not like it nor do some other people, we find it inappropiate.


There is no weird fetish to accept everything, instead it seems people are trying to segregate and isolate others. Given that you support UKIP this does not surprise me.

You've just exemplified it there. All I am doing is saying I find it bad manners to breastfeed in a public place and you go and compare it to segregation and isolation when I have even said I barely care and wouldn't get the law involved. I don't find it good manners and you'll just have to accept it.

As usual it is those who profess to be most tolerant (like you) bringing out the insults/demonisation against those who simply disagree with you.

[FlyingJesus]

when a baby is "naturally" crying, responsible mothers will take the baby away from people because that's being considerate to other members of the general public.

How do you do that on a bus
Anyway with the whole WHIPPING 'EM OUT argument being the only thing you have, where do you stand on covered breastfeeding? That's how most people do it anyway

[Futz]

It doesn't bother me and I didn't think people got that offended by it, as far as public nudity goes, you probably don't even see that much nipple. But maybe it's not that what bothers them, maybe it's the noise or the act that makes them feel uncomfortable. Is it because they don't see it very often so they cant help but feel uncomfortable? Maybe it's the way some people cant stand listening to people eat. If people are exposed to it more, would they be a lot more accepting of it?

I think there's places/situations where as a mother you probably should choose not to do it, breastfeeding everywhere and anywhere would feel the same as when people say freedom of speech after swearing into oblivion.

but I'm in conflict with myself now, if I don't have a problem with this, where do I draw the line

would I be bothered if people walked around naked, is it just that I'm used to this society where people don't so I'd find it weird

I am more confused now than when I started writing this

but actually I guess breastfeeding has a place in our society and people will just have to get used to it from being exposed to it, I guess being naked all the time is a bit different

[buttons]

She could make up a formula via powder or prepare some the night before.... as family members of mine have done raising their children. I mean it reallyyyyyyyyyyyy isn't that hard to do and frankly if that's beyond some woman to plan that far ahead then she shouldn't be raising children.
as has been mentioned to you many times by many people which you keep ignoring; not all women can breast pump and if a baby is used to being breast fed, they might not be responsive to a bottle as they're used to the close bond with their mother during feeding time.

like others of us have also said, what about when the breast is covered? would u support designated private areas for breast feeding mothers?




but I'm in conflict with myself now, if I don't have a problem with this, where do I draw the line

the only place i draw a line with it is when women start doing it because they're "smashing the patriarchy" that shit is just obnoxious and irritating. i can understand people finding that appropriate but being covered up and simply feeding their baby? i can't quite understand what is so inappropriate and disrespectful about that.

[Mrs_Plant]

This is just going round in circles now, I mean people are making out these poor women are sitting there with breasts hanging out like "look at me", which may I add plenty of these young girls these days practically do that anyway and it's perfectly acceptable. I'm pretty sure people wont go up to them asking to put there body away.

If a women is covering up and innocently feeding her child leave her be! Look the other way or leave the area, she is not harming you or other people, no like she is waving them in your face shouting "I'm breastfeeding now make sure you all stare" It is so pathetic.

As for consideration for the general public there are far worse things to be seen on a daily basis, or even come across, than a baby being fed. As a mother myself we don't aim to please others we aim to keep our children happy and as long as there happy we couldn't care less what others think. Don't like it tough.

[Empired]

It's not all "me me me my needs my wants grant me it" - there's something called consideration for other people in public or on transport for example when a baby is "naturally" crying, responsible mothers will take the baby away from people because that's being considerate to other members of the general public.
It's not all "me me me my needs my wants grant me it" - there's something called consideration and compassion for mothers who hardly ever get to leave the house with a newborn baby.

Telling mothers not to breastfeed in public (i.e telling mothers to stay at home until their baby can be bottle fed) is fantastically damaging and so lonely. It's hard enough to be stuck with a newborn baby all day (never being alone, being up at all hours, not having anyone to talk to) and we should be making it as easy as possible for those who are creating and supporting the next generation.

Also, why is it only responsible mothers who need to take their crying children away from the public?

[Neptupid]

I will admit I do see why people would find it disturbing in a public food place. But then again I'm sure if people can putup with non stop coughing and sneezing and people spitting flem in the street then why can't they just grit their teeth when someone is breastfeeding

[Thordenhime]

If you're expecting a reasonable argument from ukiptaker you're gonna have a bad time.

[Minion?!]

Personally, I am completely fine with women breastfeeding in public..

In my opinion it is a completely natural thing to be doing, so why not carry on doing it?

[-:Undertaker:-]

How do you do that on a bus
Anyway with the whole WHIPPING 'EM OUT argument being the only thing you have, where do you stand on covered breastfeeding? That's how most people do it anyway

don't like it either. time and place.


as has been mentioned to you many times by many people which you keep ignoring; not all women can breast pump and if a baby is used to being breast fed, they might not be responsive to a bottle as they're used to the close bond with their mother during feeding time.

like others of us have also said, what about when the breast is covered? would u support designated private areas for breast feeding mothers?

the only place i draw a line with it is when women start doing it because they're "smashing the patriarchy" that shit is just obnoxious and irritating. i can understand people finding that appropriate but being covered up and simply feeding their baby? i can't quite understand what is so inappropriate and disrespectful about that.

are you kidding

this is how ridiculous this whole campaign is and how desperate campaigners are to force it on us all. we've coped for the past century without breastfeeding in public and babies didn't starve to death so i'm sure we'll make it another century without doing it in public or without "designated breasfeeding areas". as for babies not responsive to bottles... what!? you're all just thinking of tiny examples to throw at me and get me to say i think it's acceptable cos i don't want the babies to starve.

the "designated breastfeeding area" is at home


It's not all "me me me my needs my wants grant me it" - there's something called consideration and compassion for mothers who hardly ever get to leave the house with a newborn baby.

Telling mothers not to breastfeed in public (i.e telling mothers to stay at home until their baby can be bottle fed) is fantastically damaging and so lonely. It's hard enough to be stuck with a newborn baby all day (never being alone, being up at all hours, not having anyone to talk to) and we should be making it as easy as possible for those who are creating and supporting the next generation.

Also, why is it only responsible mothers who need to take their crying children away from the public?

oh come on.


If you're expecting a reasonable argument from ukiptaker you're gonna have a bad time.

you can do better than that. i believe in you xx

[Shar]

How dare a woman provide her child with nutrition.

o/t I support public breastfeeding.

The world health organization on breastfeeding:


To enable mothers to establish and sustain exclusive breastfeeding for 6 months, WHO and UNICEF recommend:


Initiation of breastfeeding within the first hour of life
Exclusive breastfeeding – that is the infant only receives breast milk without any additional food or drink, not even water
Breastfeeding on demand – that is as often as the child wants, day and night
No use of bottles, teats or pacifiers

Breastfeeding on demand - when the baby wants to feed. So if we get hungry when we go out we buy something to eat, natural right? So why can't mum/baby do what's natural for them?

[FlyingJesus]

the "designated breastfeeding area" is at home

idk I'd say the designated breastfeeding area is the boob :P genuinely curious though what is the objection to covered feeding? It's then (to anyone in the vicinity) no different at all to business as usual surely just like how you don't see a baby take a dump but it happens

[Ms.Aquamarine]

this is how ridiculous this whole campaign is and how desperate campaigners are to force it on us all. we've coped for the past century without breastfeeding in public and babies didn't starve to death so i'm sure we'll make it another century without doing it in public or without "designated breasfeeding areas". as for babies not responsive to bottles... what!? you're all just thinking of tiny examples to throw at me and get me to say i think it's acceptable cos i don't want the babies to starve.

the "designated breastfeeding area" is at home

Some babies aren't responsive to/would reject a bottle and there are some babies who aren't responsive to/would reject breastfeeding. Both can be difficult and frustrating, but it takes patience and some trial and error in order for the baby to breast/bottle feed. Forcing a baby to do either though is a big no-no.

There have been women in the past century (and even longer) who breastfed in public because the baby was hungry or simply needed to be well-fed. Of course as time flew by there had been increases and decreases in women doing so, but once again - there were still women publicly breastfeeding.

[-:Undertaker:-]

idk I'd say the designated breastfeeding area is the boob :P genuinely curious though what is the objection to covered feeding? It's then (to anyone in the vicinity) no different at all to business as usual surely just like how you don't see a baby take a dump but it happens

not as much an objection to that like

still think time and place, rarely think its ever that urgent. a 10 hour coach ride? sure? 2 hours on a plane? sure. 20 mins into town? nah.


Some babies aren't responsive to/would reject a bottle and there are some babies who aren't responsive to/would reject breastfeeding. Both can be difficult and frustrating, but it takes patience and some trial and error in order for the baby to breast/bottle feed. Forcing a baby to do either though is a big no-no.

There have been women in the past century (and even longer) who breastfed in public because the baby was hungry or simply needed to be well-fed. Of course as time flew by there had been increases and decreases in women doing so, but once again - there were still women publicly breastfeeding.

i'd be really surprised if it were in public. i can't imagine it ever happening on a crowded train or bus circa 1900 or 1960.

[Empired]

not as much an objection to that like

still think time and place, rarely think its ever that urgent. a 10 hour coach ride? sure? 2 hours on a plane? sure. 20 mins into town? nah.
It takes a lot of people considerably longer than 20 minutes to get into town, particularly when traffic you include traffic times.

[-:Undertaker:-]

It takes a lot of people considerably longer than 20 minutes to get into town, particularly when traffic you include traffic times.

oh well sure if you're sitting and not moving for an hour+ then i would totally understand. all about context and scenario.

[Ms.Aquamarine]

i'd be really surprised if it were in public. i can't imagine it ever happening on a crowded train or bus circa 1900 or 1960.

Ah, well here are two examples from the early/mid 1900's:

(I'm not sure if spoilers are needed, but just in case)


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-dhay841h3V8/VX0C4bE7VwI/AAAAAAAAMDI/LT53KZBlWM8/s640/1943.jpg


http://sparklemommy.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Breastfeeding-Public-20th-Century.jpg

[Angelspy]

I have a son who's 3 months old. I am a breastfeeding mummy. If my son is hungry I will feed him in public, however I normally got to a quiet place to do it. For example John Lewis have a breastfeeding parent room! If I'm out for a meal I will feed my son where im sitting , but I cover up with a shawl to not offend anyone! I refuse to prepare a bottle when it's Most natural thing in world, and of your baby is hungry then, as a breastfeeding parent you will feed that child wherever you are!

[Akeel]

i became a mother 2 yr ago to baby miley x
and it's hard because u never know when shes gonna start screaming for milk so yh i do feed her in public places sometimes however i tend to go into very quiet places to do this so obv i dont attract attention towards myself but i cover myself up regardless (so i'm not exploited and nobody is offended or confused). feeding ur baby is completely natural wherever you are you dont decide when they're hungry or not so yes u should do it in public if compulsory or necessary x

[Artpops]

You should be allowed because as a woman breastfeeding is a necessary and you might get withdrawal if you do not get your breastfeeding. Breastfeeding is a great way for a mother to grow as she gets required nutrients. Doing this in public is not only confidence booting. I think you should be able to breastfeed in public. I would but my mother doesn't let me anymore.

[emilymoore682]

First of all you need to forget that you are in a public. The most important thing now is that your baby wants to attach to the breast. If you are just starting to feed the tightness it is quite natural for you. Over time there will be more self-confidence and the correctness of their actions. You might be intrested in this informative article which showcases various aspects of breastfeeding in public (http://motherhow.com/breastfeeding-in-public-the-pros-and-cons/), both pros and cons. Please read it here: http://motherhow.com/i-breastfeed-in-public-the-pros-and-cons/

[17M]

It is natural, and if anyone stares at it or looks at it in any other way than feeding a baby, is either a weirdo or a crude.

[Becca]

i'd rather see a baby being breastfed with no cover than read some of these responses by undertaker can we not find him a private place to express his opinions i'd find that respectful

#freethetit
i don't want to live in a society where it's acceptable to watch a woman tan her breasts yet we stigmatise against feeding a child