Arcade

[scottish]

Does anyone remember exact reason we switched from ibProArcade to vBArcade?

ibBroArcade allowed the tournaments in the normal version (vBArcade requires the $120 versoion for tournaments).

Would be good if we could get tournaments, then can have something like a games night event or something on the forum.

[Chris]

I think there was a security issue but that was years ago. Could be wrong though. I would rather have the old one too

[scottish]

It was updated Nov 2015 so I imagine it was fixed at this time or prior?

[xxMATTGxx]

If you want it and it works then Chris; has volunteered to sort everything out for it.

[Chris]

Sure, I'll sort it!

[scottish]

Okay lets do it

[Inseriousity.]

The tournament system was super buggy on it anyway although I did prefer that format (when it worked lol)

[scottish]

It wasn't that buggy from what I remember, it sure as hell beats this 1v1 system currently :P

[Inseriousity.]

You must have rose-tinted glasses on then lol. Matches not progressing as they should was the main issue. They'd just freeze even when both players were done lol.

[scottish]

or I just lucked out and didn't have any issues.


Either way that was like 3 years ago and it's been updated plenty since :P so lets hope those were fixed, again either way if it's buggy it beats no system imo.

and allowing us to do stuff like forum games night etc would be worth it.

[Inseriousity.]

Would this reset high scores or would they be able to be transferred across?

[scottish]

Would be reset most likely as I believe ibProArcade only allows imports of V3Arcade and some other one

[Inseriousity.]

Then I do not support moving over to this!

[scottish]

Be selfless for a change m8

[Inseriousity.]

Absolutely disgraceful attempt to get what you want via the back door because you know it would be more controversial to state it outright. People who actually use the arcade work hard to get these scores!

[scottish]

I've in no way hidden the fact it would delete scores?

If it came to it we could easily manually re-enter the top 1-2 scores for each game, but I doubt anyone would sit about for hours putting all scores back in.

[FlyingJesus]

Yeah tournament games used to randomly end with a score of 0 which was annoying, I think one of the problems with the old system was also that it was easy for people to "hack" impossibly high scores which made it no fun for anyone

[Inseriousity.]

If scores are not being transferred over then I do not support this change. You did not disclose that there was this catch until the question was raised. If it hadn't been raised and the change had gone through then people wouldn't have had the chance to say they didn't agree to their scores being removed!

[scottish]

I thought that much would be obvious, I believe it was the same moving from ibPro to vBArcade.

But like I said it could be done, but would be manual rather than anything auto moving them over.

[Inseriousity.]

You also said that you doubt anyone would sit about for hours putting them in so until an admin says otherwise, I'm inclined to agree with you and disagree with this change as a result :)

[scottish]

I'll volunteer to do it if it means we get tournys back.

[Inseriousity.]

Empired; would you be willing to manually re-enter high scores?

Just to be more constructive, I liked when Chris added a new game to the arcade and held an arcade competition to get the highest score over the weekend. It had the win-win combo of adding new games and getting the community involved at the same time. :)

[Chris]

Yes it seems this might be more complicated than I thought haha. Not sure how easy it would be to carry the scores over

[scottish]

I'll port the scores if necessary.

[lawrawrrr]

@Empired (https://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=80588); would you be willing to manually re-enter high scores?

Just to be more constructive, I liked when Chris added a new game to the arcade and held an arcade competition to get the highest score over the weekend. It had the win-win combo of adding new games and getting the community involved at the same time. :)
Nick did some of these as well and we had one during HxSS, I really liked them :) I just think the arcade looks so shit atm :(

[xxMATTGxx]

I'll port the scores if necessary.

See, problem sorted.

[Lewis]

Yes the scores need to be kept, especially ping pong! I spent far too long on those games for them to be wiped away :(

[scottish]

Any update on this?

[Chris]

Well I suppose a start would be getting it installed, then we'll go from there in terms of importing games and scores.
xxMATTGxx; if you would like to do the honours!

[scottish]

Give me a dump of the current arcade table xxMATTGxx;

You'll need to take a note of current games as they'll presumably have some sort of reference ID in the table that I'll need to know the current + new one to link the scores, but that's just guessing without actually seeing both new and old tables.

[Inseriousity.]

What's happened to all the scores?

[scottish]

Scores are now automatically pruned after 3 months.

'best Score of all Time' is retained permanently though, similarly as will King of the Arcade and Leader of Leaderboard.

[Inseriousity.]

That must be an optional feature considering the forum has had this system before and the scores didn't reset every 3 months.

[buttons]

touch my bozzle score and i'll fucking kill u in ur sleep honestly and that's not a threat

[Kasabian]

O HE MAD

[Inseriousity.]

I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed.
Now go to your room, no supper for you.

[Kasabian]

Assuming you've changed the angry part to mad, because you are actually angry?

[Inseriousity.]

because you said mad not angry? lol

[Kasabian]

So are you admitting you are indeed angry over this decision

[Inseriousity.]

No because I'm not.
In fact when Scott said he would transfer the scores across, I honestly expected him to go against his word and not even bother so it's only disappointing that my cynicism was ultimately proved correct.

[buttons]

ugh chck me out !! 4 high score champoion ! fuck am amzing!

[scottish]

No because I'm not.
In fact when Scott said he would transfer the scores across, I honestly expected him to go against his word and not even bother so it's only disappointing that my cynicism was ultimately proved correct.

I had ported all scores over, then a decision was made to prune scores after 3 months.

above my pay grade pal

[David]

nicola sturgeon did it

[Inseriousity.]

You don't have to be so modest. Be proud of your accomplishments :)

[Kasabian]

nicola sturgeon did it

http://i.imgur.com/ONkVxYq.png


on topic i like the arcade and like the highscores resetting

[scottish]

You don't have to be so modest. Be proud of your accomplishments :)

Not being modest, but okay. You can enjoy some time in the arcade again and try to beat buttons; bozzle :P

[Inseriousity.]

Nah, I'm quitting Habbox and going to just use HFFM's arcade. At least if I beat jen's bozzle score there, I wouldn't lose it again after less than 3 months :)

[David]

ok pal

[xxMATTGxx]

Nah, I'm quitting Habbox and going to just use HFFM's arcade. At least if I beat jen's bozzle score there, I wouldn't lose it again after less than 3 months :)

Are you being serious or sarcastic? I'm hoping it's the latter.

[Kasabian]

howling

[scottish]

Nah, I'm quitting Habbox and going to just use HFFM's arcade. At least if I beat jen's bozzle score there, I wouldn't lose it again after less than 3 months :)

You won't lose it in 3 months, as I explained the 'best score' is retained whether it's 3 month old or 3 years old.

[Inseriousity.]

Both (lol there's no way I'd beat jen's bozzle score, I'm terrible at that game).

I'm not going to pretend it's a huge loss to the community or that I contribute hugely to anything. Nowadays, I just like to play arcade games between my binge-watching of tv shows. Part of why I enjoy using the arcade is the competitive side of it and working the way up the leaderboard. That's not here anymore so I'll just go somewhere it is.

[scottish]

http://r72.cooltext.com/rendered/cooltext212827107414173.png

I tried

[buttons]

wtf id miss u mike stay!!

scott it would be nice if u could clarify WHY it has been changed as you're just trying to make it sound like u did it to antagonize ppl x

[Inseriousity.]

Part of why I enjoy using the arcade is the competitive side of it and working the way up the leaderboard.

[scottish]

I don't make any decisions around here.

In my opinion it makes the arcade more interesting and keeps it competitive especially for newer people who haven't camped the arcade for 3 years to get the top score.

of course for historic reasons the best score will remain so the people who spent ages getting their score will still have recognition, while keeping new users interested as they're not trying to beat a score of 2 trillion

[David]

pruning it allows for older games to be used as arcade competitions and basically all of what scott said as well

i like this idea

[Inseriousity.]

It makes it less competitive because there's no motivation for them to want to beat those high scores if any progress they make is reset after 3 months. The more effective way to accomplish what you were actually looking for is adding more games so that Lewis with "10 high scores" or Inseriousity. with "8 high scores" have to keep playing because there are now so many games their stronghold on the leaderboard has weakened and there is more of a threat to their position.

[David]

but you can still beat THE high score..

[Martin]

It makes it less competitive because there's no motivation for them to want to beat those high scores if any progress they make is reset after 3 months. The more effective way to accomplish what you were actually looking for is adding more games so that Lewis with "10 high scores" or Inseriousity. with "8 high scores" have to keep playing because there are now so many games their stronghold on the leaderboard has weakened and there is more of a threat to their position.

The 'best scores' are basically like the old high scores though aren't they and will still update if you beat them? So people could still compete to try to beat the actual best scores, not just try to get a temp high score? idk if that makes sense haha! Its basically just like a lower level of high scores has been added, but the best scores is effectively the old high scores system still intact?

[scottish]

It makes it less competitive because there's no motivation for them to want to beat those high scores if any progress they make is reset after 3 months. The more effective way to accomplish what you were actually looking for is adding more games so that Lewis with "10 high scores" or Inseriousity. with "8 high scores" have to keep playing because there are now so many games their stronghold on the leaderboard has weakened and there is more of a threat to their position.

best score of all time, last time I'm going to say it.

new games will be added too, if you have any suggestions feel free to post in the request thread

[Inseriousity.]

yes they will still be there. It has been said multiple times but as I have said multiple times that is not why I am personally motivated to use the arcade. I like to play to go up the leaderboard and see that progress. According to the argument presented, the position of "king of the leaderboard" or whatever it's called would be unobtainable for a newer person so as I tried to explain if it was unobtainable for them, that suggests their only motivation is to win the "temp high score" but there's no motivation there if that score is reset every 3 months.

[Lewis]

ok ignore what I previously said I just couldn't navigate or understand this new arcade system

Now that I understand it I must say this system is far inferior to the last one! :(

[scottish]

ok ignore what I previously said I just couldn't navigate or understand this new arcade system

Now that I understand it I must say this system is far inferior to the last one! :(

Why? what do you feel this lacks over the existing one?

[Lewis]

Why? what do you feel this lacks over the existing one?

This for starters, what's that all about?

http://i67.tinypic.com/28hj6dw.png

[scottish]

What game?

If it takes over 3 seconds the score fails, this can be adjusted but it shouldn't take over 3 seconds to submit a score.

[Lewis]

What game?

If it takes over 3 seconds the score fails, this can be adjusted but it shouldn't take over 3 seconds to submit a score.

Snake. Sometimes it submits my score, sometimes it doesn't. Haven't tried other games yet.

Anything else I think has probably already been said by Mike, so not much more for me to say. At least I can still see my top score in some games.

[scottish]

I've adjusted the timeout to 5 seconds, let me know if same issue occurs again.

[Reality]

I like the new idea for the Arcade, however, can it not look a bit more "prettier" it is pretty static and bare. BUT, if this is something that is being worked on at the moment then *whistles* carry on . scottish;

[scottish]

What do you think would make it better looking?

I'd imagine any design decisions will be left though, as our plan is to cut down to 2 non habbo skins and 2 habbo skins I believe, so modifying it on our current 63 skins would be a waste of time if we're able to get these cut down soon :P

[Reality]

Just a general colour splash would look a whole bunch nicer than the black and white boxes. Just a splash of colour to the b/g would be an improvement tbh, nothing overly fancy - just something that makes it look like it was create in the early 2000's. Other than colour, maybe just restructure it sightly to make it more easy to read and decipher the box thing doesn't do the arcade justice of what it's capable of.

Just personal opinion, don't know what look or feel you guys were going for, or how easy it would be to implement without f'ing up the whole structure to it, but yeh... hey ho...

[buttons]

This for starters, what's that all about?

http://i67.tinypic.com/28hj6dw.png

this happens to me all the time and it ALWAYS happens with me in the connect game - I pmed matt g n sum1 else am sure about it n they said theyd put my score inb ut never did BASTARDS

[scottish]

that was on the old arcade though not the current one.

PS the 3 christmas/santa games have been disabled and will probably be re-enabled near christmas.