Students vote to ban Police from Pride

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http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/03/13/students-vote-to-ban-police-from-pride/

Students vote to ban Police from Pride

NUS passes motion suggested by the University of Manchester Students Union


http://cdn.pinknews.co.uk/images/2016/06/Met-Pride_640x345_acf_cropped.jpg
Pride march in London



Transgender students have voted to try and block police from attending Pride events – branding them racist, classist and transphobic.

A battle on the issue took place at the National Union of Students transgender conference last week.

Students voted to pass the motion ‘No Pride in the Police’, submitted by University of Manchester Students Union.

The motion vowed to “support and organise actions against police presence at Prides” because “many trans people have faced mistreatment and violence at the hands of the police”.

It resolved “to encourage Prides to not have a police presence as part of parades, especially Pride events organised by students unions”.

The motion explained: “The police disproportionately target trans people, along with sex workers, working class communities and communities of colour for policing, leading to an increase in those groups in the prison population.”

A further motion approved by the conference backed the “abolition of prisons” – apparently calling for all prisoners in the UK to be freed and released into the community.

Ooooh I actually agree with this motion you know. But not for the same reasons.

To me, the Police themselves should have a ban on officers attending these marches in uniform because when you wear the uniform you are representing the Police forces of this country - you should not be allowed to associate the uniform with any political or social movement what so ever apart from say wearing a Poppy. The Police should be strictly non-political.

So as someone who wanted the Police neutral on the LGBTXYZ stuff I take my hat off and salute the transgender SJW activists who've turned in on themselves infighting but have delivered a result that even I agree to. Hooray!

Thoughts?

[Landon]

I say let the cops hang around. If something gets out of control then what will happen?

I love the cops. Those that hate 'em aren't gonna say what they used to when they need the police! <<< Not related to your thread and your views. Just a general comment ;)

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!Landon;

The motion/ban refers to Police taking part in the Pride, rather than policing it which they will still do regardless.

It's the taking part in Pride that bothers me... and evidently bothers the SJWs now too. ;)

[Landon]

!Landon;

The motion/ban refers to Police taking part in the Pride, rather than policing it which they will still do regardless.

It's the taking part in Pride that bothers me... and evidently bothers the SJWs now too. ;)

OH I SEE. Yeah, I fully agree with that hahaha.

[hungryfront]

If you want them to have a neutral view, let them have a neutral view and let them attend. You're forcing your view upon them by stopping them attending.

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[Landon]

If you want them to have a neutral view, let them have a neutral view and let them attend. You're forcing your view upon them by stopping them attending.

Just like you all force your views on us, have a fit, and riot if you don't get what you want?

And let's not mention what liberals think of the police.

[hungryfront]

Just like you all force your views on us, have a fit, and riot if you don't get what you want?

And let's not mention what liberals think of the police.
I mean all we want is to be treated how you're treated, that's pretty reasonable to ask.

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[Landon]

I mean all we want is to be treated how you're treated, that's pretty reasonable to ask.

Conservatives are treated like hell, especially where I live in the United States.

[hungryfront]

Conservatives are treated like hell, especially where I live in the United States.
If hell is having more pay than women and being able to treat any minorities however you want, then you're spot on!

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[Landon]

If hell is having more pay than women and being able to treat any minorities however you want, then you're spot on!

Funny you say that, because where I live, conservatives are the minority lol

[hungryfront]

Funny you say that, because where I live, conservatives are the minority lol
You don't openly display your political views as you do your skin colour, so doesn't really count.

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[Landon]

You don't openly display your political views as you do your skin colour, so doesn't really count.

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I have to be black and liberal to be able to have pride in displaying who I am?

[hungryfront]

I have to be black and liberal to be able to have pride in displaying who I am?
Did I say that? I said it's difficult to discriminate against people because of their political views because they're not literally your entire body.

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[Landon]

Did I say that? I said it's difficult to discriminate against people because of their political views because they're not literally your entire body.

Did you just stereotype different races to have different views?

[hungryfront]

Did you just stereotype different races to have different views?
No, I said it's easier to discriminate against someone because of their race or gender than it is because of their political views because their race is their actual appearance. You conservatives hear what you want to hear.

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[Landon]

No, I said it's easier to discriminate against someone because of their race or gender than it is because of their political views because their race is their actual appearance. You conservatives hear what you want to hear.

I don't have a problem with black men/women or white men/women. I have a problem with specific organizations like BLM and women dressing in vagina suits to protest lmao. Making a fool out of themselves.

[hungryfront]

I don't have a problem with black men/women or white men/women. I have a problem with specific organizations like BLM and women dressing in vagina suits to protest lmao. Making a fool out of themselves.
When women black people are so oppressed by the government and police - especially on right wing countries - you can't blame them for standing up.

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When women black people are so oppressed by the government and police - especially on right wing countries - you can't blame them for standing up.

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Can you name for me what rights black women do not have in UK, US or 'right wing' countries that the rest of the population do have?

[Landon]

When women black people are so oppressed by the government and police - especially on right wing countries - you can't blame them for standing up.

What does the government and police do to black women?

[hungryfront]

What does the government and police do to black women?
Shoot them for no reason, for one.

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[Landon]

Shoot them for no reason, for one.

LOL we're going to get into the realm of baseless statements without facts, are we? Let me see a concrete basis of facts and not fiction on what you're saying before you give me that.

[hungryfront]

LOL we're going to get into the realm of baseless statements without facts, are we? Let me see a concrete basis of facts and not fiction on what you're saying before you give me that.
https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/unarmed/

Let's see some concrete evidence for your claims of conservatives being minorities, then?

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[Landon]

https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/unarmed/

Let's see some concrete evidence for your claims of conservatives being minorities, then?

I am not telling you where I live here, sorry. That's for privacy reasons.

[Alkaz]

They want to stop all police at the events or police officers taking part of the pride events? I dont get it

[Landon]

They want to stop all police at the events or police officers taking part of the pride events? I dont get it

That's what I struggled with too. It's stopping police from participating, not patrolling.

[Alkaz]

Well surely if they are participating they are LGBT? If they aren't and they are only there to cause trouble they should be struck off, how can you trust them in that kind of position. However, if they are LGBT then why should their job prohibit them attending.

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hungryfront;

Might have something to do with fact black people disproportionately commit more crime than their % of the population.


Well surely if they are participating they are LGBT? If they aren't and they are only there to cause trouble they should be struck off, how can you trust them in that kind of position. However, if they are LGBT then why should their job prohibit them attending.

It's about them participating in an official capacity in their uniform. If a Police officer wants to go on his time off to a Pride parade, out of his uniform so he isn't representing the Police, then that's fine. But it's the official blessing that is the problem.

[Landon]

hungryfront;

Might have something to do with fact black people disproportionately commit more crime than their % of the population.

Exactly. And black on black crime is insane. They (BLM) only want you to focus on white to black crime. They never acknowledge their own problems.

[hungryfront]

I'll respond again when you have proof, like you asked me for. I'm not conversing with people who target equality.

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@hungryfront (https://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=128539);

Sure, here's basic crime statistics by demographic (racial) breakdown read off in two minutes -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz4MVN-Fw7A

[Landon]

I'm not conversing with people who target equality.

When it gets uncomfortable for you, you say that you're done talking. Weird how that happens.

[hungryfront]

When it gets uncomfortable for you, you say that you're done talking. Weird how that happens.

You're stuck in your old-fashioned ways - that's what conservative means - so there's no point me even trying to explain that you're wrong.

[Landon]

You're stuck in your old-fashioned ways - that's what conservative means - so there's no point me even trying to explain that you're wrong.

And you're stuck with new ideologies that are failing. "FDP, pigs in a blanket roll em like bacon, a man with a penis is now a woman, etc" this is what you want yourself to be known for?

The old ideas still work. Yours clearly don't.

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You're stuck in your old-fashioned ways - that's what conservative means - so there's no point me even trying to explain that you're wrong.

You're stuck in your old-fashioned marxist ways - that's what progressive means - so you should reply to the statistics video I posted which proves there is no bias or lack of rights against black women in Britain or America. It's all in your head/on tumblr.

[Brad]

Very interesting four pages of comments that has slowly moved away from the main post about whether or not police should be able to participate in pride. As a gay man who is involved in the pride in my home town we strive for everyone to participate. The population of my Area is apprix. 36,000 people so the police force is very tight, and my town, you know every cop anyways. Those who represent themselves as LGBT usually come dressed in whatever they are participating in. Usually in a float, so they're not dressed in their uniform.
There have always been police patrolling, but yeah.

[Landon]

There have always been police patrolling, but yeah.

Yep, we always need to have police patrolling big events whether people like it or not. Safety first.

[Brad]

Yep, we always need to have police patrolling big events whether people like it or not. Safety first.

I can see why they voted police out of the pride, but doesn't seem fair. If you look at all the Ally groups of LGBT and see them, you'd think if the police force spoke out and said that they were Ally, could they not participate?

[Landon]

I can see why they voted police out of the pride, but doesn't seem fair. If you look at all the Ally groups of LGBT and see them, you'd think if the police force spoke out and said that they were Ally, could they not participate?

I think the cops would get themselves into some shit by doing this, because then they'd be endorsing 'political' groups if they went in uniform

[Brad]

I think the cops would get themselves into some shit by doing this, because then they'd be endorsing 'political' groups if they went in uniform

I guess, but it's just like firefighters, and paramedics. I've seen walk in pride. They should have the same right, should they not?

[Landon]

I guess, but it's just like firefighters, and paramedics. I've seen walk in pride. They should have the same right, should they not?

It really is a good point. Not sure what I'd really want, I haven't thought about it in depth

[Brad]

It really is a good point. Not sure what I'd really want, I haven't thought about it in depth

I think realistically we want to see fairness.. especially since that's what pride was intended to be proud of how far us (LGBT community) have come and when we allow all groups including military, police force, firefighters, paramedics, scholars, celebrities, major icons join in with celebrating the major separation of humans, we can learn to have more pride in the human race.

But sadly, with things going the way it has gone, we are humans and humans are imperfect, so we make mistakes whether malicious intent or not and caused the sour feelings between police force and homosexuals. I think it'll take time to heal those tensions, but as homosexuals, we should be taking the first steps because if we want to be accepted by society/the world, we must first be accepting.