View Full Version : Why does it feel like Habbox is dying out?
Not to be rude, but Habbox doesn't seem much the same anymore. There isn't many events anymore, and the community doesn't seem to be involved anymore. Habbox is slowly separating from Habbo in my opinion and even @Bikini; agrees with me. The GM hasn't been on in two weeks I know there was an event yesterday, but doesn't seem there's much effort anymore like there was before and wanted to speak my mind. This isn't me trying to roast Habbox because I love it, but I think there needs to be change done or else Habbox will slowly die out.
scottish
23-04-2017, 03:45 PM
It's been dying for years, the GM has just bought a house and has been on away to get the house prepared then move into it.
Habbo's pretty dead itself, a fansite's numbers and engagement levels are only going to reflect that same shift.
I mean Habbo itself isn't as dead while the casino's madness is going on, but HabboQuests always has events with their rooms filled with 50+ people so that can't be used as an excuse.
despect
23-04-2017, 07:39 PM
I think we used to be able to use the Habbo not supporting fansites excuse but now I don't think we can. I think it's really about how much effort you put into a fansite and perhaps we could be aiming higher than what we are now, I don't know. I guess people are just doing the best with what they can without realising how much we are actually falling behind in regards to other fansites. We can aim higher, it's about whether people are actually willing to put in the effort.
Like, it's not really just about general management because we do actually do events and we do seasonal events but then people can't be bothered to actually take part in them.
FlyingJesus
23-04-2017, 07:50 PM
The newer fansites have a membership where nearly 100% of them still play, whereas being so much older an enormous number of people here (including a lot of staff even) simply don't use the hotel at all, or don't turn up to events when they do. It's less an issue of people not doing their jobs - although that is a problem too I don't deny - and more an issue of not particularly having the support to make it always feel worthwhile. We've just had HxEE during which every manager spent a lot of time and money creating themed tasks and giving out prizes for it all, advertised on the forum and twitter, and only a handful of people bothered to enter
Absently
23-04-2017, 08:50 PM
Like others have mentioned Laura is moving and (I'm sure tommy won't mind me saying) we've also had some stuff going on ourselves so we may not be the most active right now. I know it always seems like there is excuses, but that is true :P Sadly, life generally has to come first and as much as I'd love to be at home working on habbox all day it isn't a possibility for me :P
Personally, I've been trying new things like our weekly events with a big prize at the end of the year and advertise as much as possible. So far it has been lovely seeing the managers putting the effort in, but overall turnout hasn't been great. I'm not really sure how you can improve that when we've been advertising it quite a lot through the forum, twitter and habbo.
We've also our Habbox Funfair which is being launched soon (has fallen on the back burner whilst I've been moving) but it's something that I hope will improve activity in some ways.
We brought on Gina; as a recruitment leader to help with recruiting team members, but I know she has been busy with exams. Hopefully, when they're over we will see an improvement in staff as Gina is quite good with recruitment.
Like others have said, we had HxEE and advertised it as much as possible and only having one event a day to try gain more interest but once again entries have dwindled there.
I can only speak for myself as it's definitely my job to try and help the community, but I have been trying to give us a boost. I'm all for people giving ideas on where they think I'm going wrong or what I can do to try make Habbox that bit better. If anyone has any ideas then feel free to throw them my way!
lemons
23-04-2017, 08:57 PM
TBH I don't think management is to blame, Habbox just hasn't kept up with the times overall and everyone is too old
Samantha
23-04-2017, 09:21 PM
FlyingJesus; Absently;
One of your points is why I didn't bother joining in with HxEE as much - I stopped after the first day because I don't like the way you only have 24 hours to enter a certain event. It's been done so many times by Habbox now (for a couple of years) and I don't believe it's fair on everyone. A tournament should be fair and should give everyone a fighting chance, and give everyone the same chance. If someone wanted to enter (for example) the Articles competition, they shouldn't have to plan around that event if that makes sense, it should be open throughout the tournament! I understand that it's easier for prizes to be given and points to be allocated that way, and showcases a certain department for that day, but I just don't find it 100% fair. This isn't just about HxEE, it was the same a couple of years ago when we only had 24 hours to enter HabboxStarz and that day I was actually visiting my sister at university so couldn't enter - I know I wouldn't have won or even come close, but that could have been crucial to me winning or losing.
Instead of having it run for 24 hours, you could even do it where players enter every day, keep it interesting and showcases the specific department for longer - just make it so the same player can't win twice for the same event or something.
Something I have been saying for years is that people aren't motivated enough, and aren't community-driven or go above and beyond to get that community back or get new members here. People who are in community departments (or high community roles) should want to get new members, and want to keep the old ones as well, but sometimes it's months before a community manager+ even posts a thread or a post that isn't related to Habbox, when really they should be posting more to keep that community! This was a while back when I noticed it, and I still notice it to a point today, but I've also noticed it on Habbo too. I don't play too much anymore, but when I'm on Habbox doesn't really have a presence on client, even with an event on - granted it may depend on the event, but I don't know it just doesn't feel as powerful as it did a few years ago. For the record now I don't think posting excessively will get tonnes of new members, but it could get a couple at least, and like I said this was my opinion a while back (I haven't really noticed or cared to notice since then).
Habbox needs something unique again, and at the moment the only 'unique' thing they really have is the Wiki (even though there is another one that used to be/is more updated.
Absently
23-04-2017, 09:23 PM
FlyingJesus; Absently;
One of your points is why I didn't bother joining in with HxEE as much - I stopped after the first day because I don't like the way you only have 24 hours to enter a certain event. It's been done so many times by Habbox now (for a couple of years) and I don't believe it's fair on everyone. A tournament should be fair and should give everyone a fighting chance, and give everyone the same chance. If someone wanted to enter (for example) the Articles competition, they shouldn't have to plan around that event if that makes sense, it should be open throughout the tournament! I understand that it's easier for prizes to be given and points to be allocated that way, and showcases a certain department for that day, but I just don't find it 100% fair. This isn't just about HxEE, it was the same a couple of years ago when we only had 24 hours to enter HabboxStarz and that day I was actually visiting my sister at university so couldn't enter - I know I wouldn't have won or even come close, but that could have been crucial to me winning or losing.
Instead of having it run for 24 hours, you could even do it where players enter every day, keep it interesting and showcases the specific department for longer - just make it so the same player can't win twice for the same event or something.
Something I have been saying for years is that people aren't motivated enough, and aren't community-driven or go above and beyond to get that community back or get new members here. People who are in community departments (or high community roles) should want to get new members, and want to keep the old ones as well, but sometimes it's months before a community manager+ even posts a thread or a post that isn't related to Habbox, when really they should be posting more to keep that community! This was a while back when I noticed it, and I still notice it to a point today, but I've also noticed it on Habbo too. I don't play too much anymore, but when I'm on Habbox doesn't really have a presence on client, even with an event on - granted it may depend on the event, but I don't know it just doesn't feel as powerful as it did a few years ago. For the record now I don't think posting excessively will get tonnes of new members, but it could get a couple at least, and like I said this was my opinion a while back (I haven't really noticed or cared to notice since then).
Habbox needs something unique again, and at the moment the only 'unique' thing they really have is the Wiki (even though there is another one that used to be/is more updated.
The reason the events are done 24 hours is many people feel overwhelmed when there is so many events going on throughout the week and it's easier to miss them
Samantha
23-04-2017, 09:26 PM
The reason the events are done 24 hours is many people feel overwhelmed when there is so many events going on throughout the week and it's easier to miss them
Maybe then, if the tournament lasts 7-10 days have 3/4 department's event/competition last for the first 3 days and then the other departments have the next 3 days etc.
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Martin
23-04-2017, 09:32 PM
I sometimes wonder if maybe rather than having every department doing a big 24 hour event during these kinds of things, it might be better to focus on hosting as many events on the client as we can instead, supplementing them with competitions on the forum and then just having a couple of big events run during the week instead. That way it's less confusing, less overwhelming, and you have the added benefit of lots of on client events. I think it needs to be communicated to all staff that they can host events during these periods and actively encouraged to fill up the timetable. I think you will probably get more chance of recruiting new members/staff through on client events during a tournament than through a departmental challenge/themed thing anyway. Like for the sake of 3 people entering a competition you've put a few hours into organising, why not just host a couple of on client events and get 20+ people playing in each of them and advertise loads at the same time! Historically, the main focus in big seasonal events was getting the events timetable filled up, some competitions prepared, some solid Habboxlive on air-competitions and then just a couple of quest type things maximum.
Absently
23-04-2017, 09:34 PM
Maybe then, if the tournament lasts 7-10 days have 3/4 department's event/competition last for the first 3 days and then the other departments have the next 3 days etc.
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We've actually run quite a few department events like that too :)
FlyingJesus
23-04-2017, 09:39 PM
I sometimes wonder if maybe rather than having every department doing a big 24 hour event during these kinds of things, it might be better to focus on hosting as many events on the client as we can instead, supplementing them with competitions on the forum and then just having a couple of big events run during the week instead.
I personally would far prefer this; it's a stronger presence on the client and allows a much larger number of people to get involved. Still the same problems of getting people to actually do it though, we did a 24 hour full day of events before and there were only like 4 or 5 non-events staff who did it
Martin
23-04-2017, 09:45 PM
I personally would far prefer this; it's a stronger presence on the client and allows a much larger number of people to get involved. Still the same problems of getting people to actually do it though, we did a 24 hour full day of events before and there were only like 4 or 5 non-events staff who did it
I think if it's done properly then a thread needs to be made in the staff forum as early on as possible before the event highlighting the importance of them taking part, giving full instructions on how to, and offering the use of rooms etc. I for one would rather put my efforts into hosting an event than creating a 24 hour quest that only 3 people are going to enter, because I know how easy an event is to organise and how beneficial they can be.
Take Easter 2011 (https://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=694576&highlight=Easter+2011), over 200 people had their name on the leaderboard whilst there were 4 days of the tournament left apparently, and that's mainly because of the volume of events we managed to host with staff and managers all pulling together to get a timetable planned in advance. HxHD chipped in too with their own unique events on certain days in the helpdesk, and there will have been themed competitions to win points, as well as on air competitions each day.
I honestly think in some ways Habbox just needs to go back to basics and not complicate things so much with too many quests and things. Events on the client are a powerful tool enough to get plenty of advertising in and people involved with Habbox.
Absently
23-04-2017, 10:16 PM
When I first joined as AGM I encouraged people to host events and did all the threads in staff forums and it just didn't get any pull which is why I've given up on encouraging other staff members to host, but still communicate to them that I would love if they hosted.
We are moving away from the big department events that we have had in the past due to the lack of pull with them nowadays and instead moving towards our funfair which is something monthly and interesting, giving a nice push of activity for the weekend of that month (provided it works out). Im open to anything, so I will keep in mind us pushing active on-client events, I just worry about the pull of it.
Sloths
24-04-2017, 12:48 AM
I think if it's done properly then a thread needs to be made in the staff forum as early on as possible before the event highlighting the importance of them taking part, giving full instructions on how to, and offering the use of rooms etc. I for one would rather put my efforts into hosting an event than creating a 24 hour quest that only 3 people are going to enter, because I know how easy an event is to organise and how beneficial they can be.
Take Easter 2011 (https://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=694576&highlight=Easter+2011), over 200 people had their name on the leaderboard whilst there were 4 days of the tournament left apparently, and that's mainly because of the volume of events we managed to host with staff and managers all pulling together to get a timetable planned in advance. HxHD chipped in too with their own unique events on certain days in the helpdesk, and there will have been themed competitions to win points, as well as on air competitions each day.
I honestly think in some ways Habbox just needs to go back to basics and not complicate things so much with too many quests and things. Events on the client are a powerful tool enough to get plenty of advertising in and people involved with Habbox.
This reminds me of old hxss and the Olympics event back in the day, there would be a full events calendar and so much enthusiasm to take part, even in the international side of things. Obviously we're never going to get the same amount of people and enthusiasm as we had back then.
We're trying to implement more mini events into hxhd (as you may be able to tell from the event section of the new design) however it's sort of taken a back seat atm although I've heard a few staff members have been hosting.
We definitely need to get new people in, however I think from my point of view anyway Habbox members aren't as welcoming as they used to be. There's a lot of 'cliques' (which I assume will be the same in other fansites) and some new users may find it rather intimidating. I know I find some sections intimidating and I've been here since early 2009! There are a fair amount of new users that are younger than some of us so I realise that can be a factor, but being welcoming and being their best friend are two different things.
The help desk is a big thing for recruitment and we're trying to work on being more welcoming to new users, but events would be another big area to focus on being welcoming and recruiting as well. Any suggestions for the help desk to improve is welcome, whether privately or publicly is fine!
I guess since I am tagged in the starting post I guess I'll give my side of what I feel.
I had stated I was in so many departments, so I see a lot. I see the department managers working their asses off for the department but no real results.
People complain that there is nothing going on the client or the forum yet being in the competitions department, we bring out new competitions each week and we only get 4-5 submissions out of the fifty or so active members throughout a week. So it's not the departments fault, it honestly just those who are on the forum. Half of them do not go on client anymore, so they tend to stay on the forum, so when tournaments and such happen, they don't participate because without going on client you have no way of actually winning. Being able to offer the same amount of incentive for those solely on forum as those who do both.
Any thoughts? Or should I wait until that Habbox staff thread?
Landon
24-04-2017, 02:25 AM
Half of them do not go on client anymore, so they tend to stay on the forum
This right here. I don't play habbo (very rarely login), just here because of the community.
Rhyce
24-04-2017, 04:12 AM
I guess its about how much effort you put into each department @Despect mentioned earlier in the comments. Each department
is different i know that habbox use to hit a essential amount of traffic way back in the day, And it can be very frustrating
with us being one of the longest official fan sites if not the longest.
And its mainly due to the traffic whilst we have slacked a bit now its just like our department im one of the DJs Worked for James
despect for about 5 months then left as a DJ due to family issues and after 2 years im back and the first thing i said to him
was where the hell are the listeners, With that being said Habbo itself has died down. Which many of us are actually over the school leaving age
if not just about to finish we have so many more commitments as the GMs mentioned Ill be leaving soon as iv just found im im going to be a farther
Whst im trying to say is Nothing last forever But we can keep the site up just a wee bit longer if the community put in the effort. What most forgot to mention
is we do not get paid to work here its all voluntary so things like families jobs uni and other commitments will and always come first sadly have to say but its true
Either way we're family no matter what! :P
I think the Help Desk needs to be changed from a Help Desk. Do people actually ask for help anymore? I don't know what it should be changed to, but even if it's just a temporary trial, change it to something else that allows users to interact and is more appealing. By all means have a desk in the room but change it up.
I think giving some younger people a chance in Management would be nice. I know being in management requires somebody mature and trustworthy, but maybe keep an open mind and try and find some younger people who are actually dedicated to making Habbox work. Finding someone who's still in school and isn't in Uni or living on their own will mean they have more time and are probably still very active on-client. Yeah it might not always work out but give it a go or at least try a recruitment drive aimed specifically at that?
11 of the 16 managers (using the managers drop down list) are older than me and I'm 20. The others I either don't know who they are or what their age is. New faces mean new ideas :) Madison seems to be doing well at a glance.
There is always an excuse for stuff and it's been like that for literally my entire time at Habbox. It's unfair to put the blame on one single person, I believe the decline of Habbox is a result of ex-management/managers and having no proper plan forward. One manager goes, the next comes in and changes stuff completely, change is good but not when it's all over the place.
-:Undertaker:-
24-04-2017, 11:45 AM
Said it a million times before, skin etc needs doing.
Then, to get new members, go on the Hotel and have a sign up = furni Givaway.
That's how fansites built themselves up years ago and same principle applies.
lemons
24-04-2017, 02:06 PM
the only on client presence habbox seems to have these days is hxhd (which should be kept as ppl still do ask for help and people still hang out there) and those rubbish giveaways that HxL keep hosting which may attract listeners but only for like 1 hour
i barely see any other fansites do giveaways these days because there is events
habbox needs events and a better looking site and some fresh young faces in management with lots of pals
despect
24-04-2017, 02:19 PM
the only on client presence habbox seems to have these days is hxhd (which should be kept as ppl still do ask for help and people still hang out there) and those rubbish giveaways that HxL keep hosting which may attract listeners but only for like 1 hour
i barely see any other fansites do giveaways these days because there is events
habbox needs events and a better looking site and some fresh young faces in management with lots of pals
Rubbish giveaways? Its still an event either way so it helps. I dont see how us doing giveaways can be seen as a bad thing. The amount of people we actually get to become staff from giveaway is decent. At least we're actually doing something that benefits people outside of Habbox. Unlike all these people who do nothing but say negative things when they have NO idea what is actually happening or even planned to happen.
lemons
24-04-2017, 02:23 PM
Rubbish giveaways? Its still an event either way so it helps. I dont see how us doing giveaways can be seen as a bad thing. The amount of people we actually get to become staff from giveaway is decent. At least we're actually doing something that benefits people outside of Habbox. Unlike all these people who do nothing but say negative things when they have NO idea what is actually happening or even planned to happen.
The only thing I see HxL ever do is giveaways sure good on you for putting them together
The problem is is that there is more giveaways than events and ppl only tune in when there is giveaways (multi department issue not just hxl)
despect
24-04-2017, 02:30 PM
The only thing I see HxL ever do is giveaways sure good on you for putting them together
The problem is is that there is more giveaways than events and ppl only tune in when there is giveaways (multi department issue not just hxl)
If you put it that way then I agree. I think someone mentioned before about ready made rooms. Whenever I advertise events and how to become events staff I always mention the ready made rooms and the payment systems because as a department manager we need to be tell people the good qualities in your department not just saying hey join now. No you need to say WHY to join. What does your department have that is different.
I think like I mentioned before maybe we could do more community hosting with some sort of prizes or payments/rewards idk but it could be good to get community involved and at the same time really focus on getting events staff in.
I do have some unique ideas for events that havent been done before. Like Sam said we need something unique to attract people. Ill post some ideas later :)
Unlike all these people who do nothing but say negative things when they have NO idea what is actually happening or even planned to happen.
What do you expect when 'these people' aren't staff in those departments and look at Habbox's situation when comparing it to other fansites - that is, in summary, Habbox is going downhill. I get that obviously management have things in the pipeline and are always trying to implement new things and initiatives, and yeah I'm probably guilty of being one of those people, but I don't know what's going on behind the scenes so can't comment on that.
It's an issue with all departments and I'm pretty sure the on-client presence issue has been going on since I was in Events management in like 2014.
despect
24-04-2017, 02:39 PM
What do you expect when 'these people' aren't staff in those departments and look at Habbox's situation when comparing it to other fansites - that is, in summary, Habbox is going downhill. I get that obviously management have things in the pipeline and are always trying to implement new things and initiatives, and yeah I'm probably guilty of being one of those people, but I don't know what's going on behind the scenes so can't comment on that.
It's an issue with all departments and I'm pretty sure the on-client presence issue has been going on since I was in Events management in like 2014.
I mean theres been so many plans discussed its just about going ahead with the plans so its not all talk.
I mean theres been so many plans discussed its just about going ahead with the plans so its not all talk.
Exactly. It's alright having individual plans for each department (which can consist of many different aims and goals) but general management need to have an overall plan that can easily be picked up by new managers and all still work towards the same thing. I was talking to a staff member from HxHD who I've never spoken to before and he said he's intimidated to post on the forum still, that could form a plan for the Forum dept to take on board but then it should still be part of an overall plan that General Management help coordinate too.
I remember Mike (Inseriosity) always went on about a plan, what was that even about I never paid attention back then lol.
Martin
24-04-2017, 02:49 PM
Exactly. It's alright having individual plans for each department (which can consist of many different aims and goals) but general management need to have an overall plan that can easily be picked up by new managers and all still work towards the same thing. I was talking to a staff member from HxHD who I've never spoken to before and he said he's intimidated to post on the forum still, that could form a plan for the Forum dept to take on board but then it should still be part of an overall plan that General Management help coordinate too.
I remember Mike (Inseriosity) always went on about a plan, what was that even about I never paid attention back then lol.
Action Plan!
One was made last year too but got wiped when all the posts got deleted I think if I remember right LOL.
Action Plan!
One was made last year too but got wiped when all the posts got deleted I think if I remember right LOL.
Not sure if I should act surprised or not......... lmao
Absently
24-04-2017, 02:55 PM
Action Plan!
One was made last year too but got wiped when all the posts got deleted I think if I remember right LOL.
Yes :( each department had an individual plan that was compiled together as one big thread including what general management were doing too. It was quite unmotivating when it was deleted to attempt to put it together again and I think made us take a step back.
FlyingJesus
24-04-2017, 02:56 PM
Yeah He Shall Not Be Named destroyed the action plan which had months of stuff in it lol, fun times. I've got a couple of minor changes I want to make in order to hopefully make being staff look more appealing, but I really do think that an enormous problem (aside from general apathy) is that rv has been dead for so long. It would be a huge asset and a great thing to draw people in, but problems with that not only slow down membership and traffic but literally stopped the whole site progressing for ages with the whole v7 thing. It's a huge project but I think it would be a massively beneficial one to have up and running properly again
Martin
24-04-2017, 03:01 PM
We should probably fix the forum too as the space thing can be annoying on certain browsers and I know a few people have had issues with it. On microsoft edge when I post on the comps account I have to spam click before it lets me type etc. I think people won't stick around if we don't have an attractive and fuctioning forum that's easy to use and not confusing.
Absently
24-04-2017, 03:04 PM
Action Plan!
One was made last year too but got wiped when all the posts got deleted I think if I remember right LOL.
Yes :( each department had an individual plan that was compiled together as one big thread including what general management were doing too. It was quite unmotivating when it was deleted to attempt to put it together again and I think made us take a step back.
FlyingJesus
24-04-2017, 03:08 PM
Calm down Kelly
Absently
24-04-2017, 04:08 PM
Calm down Kelly
SORRY it broke for me :(
scottish
24-04-2017, 04:55 PM
We should probably fix the forum too as the space thing can be annoying on certain browsers and I know a few people have had issues with it. On microsoft edge when I post on the comps account I have to spam click before it lets me type etc. I think people won't stick around if we don't have an attractive and fuctioning forum that's easy to use and not confusing.
That's a bug with an editor, not the forum itself.
Solution would be to set another editor as default.
Martin
24-04-2017, 04:56 PM
That's a bug with an editor, not the forum itself.
Solution would be to set another editor as default.
So there is no chance of it happening to new people right?
Because they would have no clue why it was happening/wouldn't know to change browser etc.
scottish
24-04-2017, 05:02 PM
If the default is set to the bugged editor then it will happen to new users, if it's set to another editor it won't.
Martin
24-04-2017, 05:09 PM
If the default is set to the bugged editor then it will happen to new users, if it's set to another editor it won't.
Are you able to find out and change it if needed? I think it's important!
Also, I'm keeping the bugged editor purely because I hate the other ones as they don't show me my thread as I go along what it's going to look like formatting wise- and I have got used to this one over the years, but it's bloody annoying as hell having to start a new line to get spaces working every time I post! It does it in PM's too!
scottish
24-04-2017, 05:44 PM
Chris; can check that I can't atm.
I'm not sure if there's a better editor that can replace the bugged one, or have it in addition to the bugged one.
Martin
24-04-2017, 05:45 PM
@Chris (https://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=55895); can check that I can't atm.
I'm not sure if there's a better editor that can replace the bugged one, or have it in addition to the bugged one.
Thatwouldbesouseful!
Samantha
24-04-2017, 06:13 PM
Habbox doesn't attract new members unless we have a spotlight event on and even then none of them stay, maybe one for a short while if that. There's nothing for new members so no wonder they don't stay! They can win VIP for posting X amount of times in a short space of time, or may be considered for Newcomer of the Month, but what else? There's nothing really, and no one seems to actively go on Habbo to get those new members joining anymore. I get a few invites on Habbo telling me about a giveaway or an event, which is good to see, but inviting people you know isn't really going to get those new members there, go into other rooms, public rooms, popular rooms or rooms where new people hang out, try and get them on board instead of waiting and hoping some people will randomly come in and join in with the event or giveaway. This might already be done, but if it is then no one's mentioned it in this thread to say what they're doing to try and get new members to join/stay.
I like HabboQuest events, if you're signed up to the site/forum you get double the event prize if you win just by giving your forum name, likewise with another fansite (the name escapes me) they did it where you gained a random code from your event win and inputting that on their site/forum gave you an additional prize (the additional prize might have been forum based, I'm not sure). They are rather unique things and actually interest people in playing, Habbox needs that unique idea.
I don't find people arguing in other fansite's events as much, and this is what's put me off Habbox events before, it's the rudeness in the room - some of it mainly by the host themselves or Habbox staff. You're providing an event for players, they don't need to play and they sure won't if you're rude to them or speak to them like rubbish. A new member isn't going to want to come into a bickering room or feel intimidated by the others in the room. I haven't been to a Habbox event in a while as they don't interest me much, so it might have changed since then.
Overall, I think there needs to be something new and unique to get people joining and staying, as well as something unique for them to play events and win prizes too.
Chris
24-04-2017, 06:19 PM
Said it a million times before, skin etc needs doing.
Then, to get new members, go on the Hotel and have a sign up = furni Givaway.
That's how fansites built themselves up years ago and same principle applies.
I asked Laura about the skin going back a month or two. I was told that she was waiting on someone to get back to her, but I'm going to assume she never heard back as nothing has come of it since.
We should probably fix the forum too as the space thing can be annoying on certain browsers and I know a few people have had issues with it. On microsoft edge when I post on the comps account I have to spam click before it lets me type etc. I think people won't stick around if we don't have an attractive and fuctioning forum that's easy to use and not confusing.
Never experienced this issue, but there is an issue on certain skins where the editor will just carry continue on one line and never wrap which is really annoying. It should be fixable with css though.
Chris; can check that I can't atm.
I'm not sure if there's a better editor that can replace the bugged one, or have it in addition to the bugged one.
I can't, don't have access to do that sadly.
despect
24-04-2017, 06:46 PM
An Idea on an event I currently have in planning:
'The Apprentice' style event which is basically based on the TV show and we do different challenges where people have to make their own products and sell them, we'll basically give people a rough outline and they have to try convince the habbox community it's worth voting for. each week there will be a different person eliminated, this is something I need to really think of first before I even think of doing it so any suggestions is great.
I know Kelly is doing the funfair which I really feel will be successful and I hope that get people in. I have some ideas on getting new staff in too which I've given over to General management and I will be passing them onto Gina also.
These are just some ideas, feel free to hate on them lol.
Neversoft
24-04-2017, 08:26 PM
We should probably fix the forum too as the space thing can be annoying on certain browsers and I know a few people have had issues with it.
There is no word wrap when I reply to a thread and it's super annoying — is this what you're referring to? I was hoping a fix existed somewhere.
Martin
24-04-2017, 08:30 PM
There is no word wrap when I reply to a thread and it's super annoying — is this what you're referring to? I was hoping a fix existed somewhere.
I'm not sure what you mean by word wrap, but what I (and a lot of others) have been experiencing is that you go to type a sentence and no spaces appear between words- basically the space bar does nothing. You have to start a new line for spaces to start working.
Then the other problem I get on the other browser, which I use for the HabboxComps account is that I can't start typing straight away, I have to wait a good 5-10 seconds and spam click before I can start typing which is weird!
Neversoft
24-04-2017, 08:38 PM
I'm not sure what you mean by word wrap, but what I (and a lot of others) have been experiencing is that you go to type a sentence and no spaces appear between words- basically the space bar does nothing. You have to start a new line for spaces to start working.
Then the other problem I get on the other browser, which I use for the HabboxComps account is that I can't start typing straight away, I have to wait a good 5-10 seconds and spam click before I can start typing which is weird!
Oh, no. I have something entirely different. My words never jump to the next line when they reach the end of the box; my posts are just a long line of text. I always read over what I write, so it's rather irritating. I've only recently started popping by more frequently, but it never used to be like this.
http://i.imgur.com/YGicgzn.png
Samantha
24-04-2017, 08:56 PM
Oh, no. I have something entirely different. My words never jump to the next line when they reach the end of the box; my posts are just a long line of text. I always read over what I write, so it's rather irritating. I've only recently started popping by more frequently, but it never used to be like this.
http://i.imgur.com/YGicgzn.png
Oh yeah that happens to me on Chrome. I have no problems with the editor on IE though guys ;).
Landon
24-04-2017, 09:03 PM
I think Habbox is dying out because we already ran our course. It's like a business. You can do the best in the world for a time, but there comes a point when you know that you're either going to suffer through it or close.
Sloths
24-04-2017, 11:37 PM
I think the Help Desk needs to be changed from a Help Desk. Do people actually ask for help anymore? I don't know what it should be changed to, but even if it's just a temporary trial, change it to something else that allows users to interact and is more appealing. By all means have a desk in the room but change it up.
People do genuinely come in asking for help so it won't be changed from a Help Desk any time soon. However we are trying to slowly develop it into more than just a help desk and a 'come in and chat' room, but very much an emphasis on slowly. But we're totally open to feedback on what you'd like to see from the help desk!
There is always an excuse for stuff and it's been like that for literally my entire time at Habbox. It's unfair to put the blame on one single person, I believe the decline of Habbox is a result of ex-management/managers and having no proper plan forward. One manager goes, the next comes in and changes stuff completely, change is good but not when it's all over the place.
This is definitely something that's been a problem in the departments I'm in anyway. A manager comes in, starts to change everything and then leaves before finishing. I know (a)gms are trying to hire people that are in for the long run but plans unfortunately change. Getting new younger management or at least new younger seniors to get involved would be a good plan as like you said they won't have full time work or uni troubles.
Also I read somewhere in this thread about going into public rooms etc but I've misplaced the comment so @ whoever that was. The Help Desk are initiating a couple of plans to take the help desk out of the help desk and to the public, those new habbos who may not necessarily know to search for a help desk. We're just in the process of figuring out how to go about it so that both the staff and the public will get involved.
The problem with a lot of ideas though, like others have said, is that we managers work on things for hours and hours and get little participation. We try to introduce new things but the current population of Habbox just want a lot of the 'old nostalgic stuff' back, then half the time don't participate even if it is 'old nostalgic stuff'.
Not meant to be excuses but...
I'm so glad I made this post because we all came together as a family and talked about this. However, this wasn't me just pointing my finger at one person or anyone I just think we all could do a better job is all I was saying! And yes there is only so much we can do! But we definitely can do more <3
Like FJ said, most people on here have been on habbo(x) for YEARS and most of us no longer play habbo, and therefore it's fairly difficult to get extra members as its not as well advertised in Habbo. Habbox has lost activity, but I still think it has some life left in it!
Charlie
25-04-2017, 10:11 AM
I only read the first page, sorry but I do agree that it is a bit dead around here. I think one of the issues could be, which I imagine someone has already said, is that we aren't really pushing the Habbox name. If you go on Habbo and look at the games, there is a bunch of fansites hosting events and telling people to sign up to the forum, etc. but you don't see Habbox doing that. I imagine we do host events but there is always the possibility of hosting one or two more, or trying to push them more to let people know they are happening and get people involved.
Then it's just a case of keeping those who join through the events interested in sticking around. I know there is only so much you can do on a forum, only so many posts you can make, etc. but it does seem like no-one attempts to make any apart from a handful of users who either create new ones or bump old ones to get some threads going. If we got some fresh blood into the forum, I imagine they'd bring some activity with them, we've just got to get them here. I have noticed that with the competitions as well, not many people take part in them which is a shame but again, I'd just keep at it and hopefully more people will take part in them. Maybe ask people what type of competitions they like and cater to that?
I don't know, I haven't been here in years and as I said, I haven't read the whole thread so maybe I'm just repeating what has already been said but I do think we can pull Habbox out of this rut and back to a good level of activity, we just need to put the effort into it and let people know we are here.
Rhyce
25-04-2017, 12:33 PM
Agreed Habbox is Dying out unless we work together as a community to fix the isues
GoldenMerc
25-04-2017, 09:07 PM
Habbox has forever used the excuse "Habbo is dead, so we lose all traffic" then once HFFM and other fansites come about it still stands about.
Habbox has to play catchup and try make a good impression with the new users, but no one seems to try anymore. - Hasn't been a big push in Habbox since what after the ---MAD--- era?
myles
26-04-2017, 02:59 AM
youre all thick theres a reason why other fansites are doing better and thats because they actually host events i have never seen one habbox event! sorry to say but this fansite is dated and not with the times of habbo. youre forgetting that habbo consists of teenagers who are not aware of all these old skool fansites and when they see a group of 20 somethings gathered around in hxhd they arent really going to be willing to join are they? just step back and think outside of the box for a minute then u will get ur answer. It was nice to return to put some perspective into this shambles of a forum!
Landon
26-04-2017, 03:29 AM
youre all thick theres a reason why other fansites are doing better and thats because they actually host events i have never seen one habbox event!
Not even one? I rarely play Habbo. But whenever I login, there is normally a little something happening. For instance, even if there isn't an event running, despect; and HabboxLive do a great job at having the DJs make their own rooms and just chill in them while they're DJing. And these past few months, I know that they have had great success.
madison0442
26-04-2017, 04:51 AM
To be honest, it does feel like it's dying out a bit, however, we've all gotta keep our faith. Be hopeful ;)
People do genuinely come in asking for help so it won't be changed from a Help Desk any time soon. However we are trying to slowly develop it into more than just a help desk and a 'come in and chat' room, but very much an emphasis on slowly. But we're totally open to feedback on what you'd like to see from the help desk!
This is definitely something that's been a problem in the departments I'm in anyway. A manager comes in, starts to change everything and then leaves before finishing. I know (a)gms are trying to hire people that are in for the long run but plans unfortunately change. Getting new younger management or at least new younger seniors to get involved would be a good plan as like you said they won't have full time work or uni troubles.
Also I read somewhere in this thread about going into public rooms etc but I've misplaced the comment so @ whoever that was. The Help Desk are initiating a couple of plans to take the help desk out of the help desk and to the public, those new habbos who may not necessarily know to search for a help desk. We're just in the process of figuring out how to go about it so that both the staff and the public will get involved.
The problem with a lot of ideas though, like others have said, is that we managers work on things for hours and hours and get little participation. We try to introduce new things but the current population of Habbox just want a lot of the 'old nostalgic stuff' back, then half the time don't participate even if it is 'old nostalgic stuff'.
Not meant to be excuses but...
lets make it a 'games, trade & chat' ;)
lemons
26-04-2017, 11:38 AM
Not even one?
one a week maybe
djs hosting party rooms does not work lol every time ive been to them they stand in there by themselves or just with other djs
FlyingJesus
26-04-2017, 05:07 PM
What I'd like to do is actually use the event area in hxhd (it's what it's there for I assume) and that way the lazy kids who never follow for events will still be of some use
Sloths
26-04-2017, 07:27 PM
What I'd like to do is actually use the event area in hxhd (it's what it's there for I assume) and that way the lazy kids who never follow for events will still be of some use
I know kelly was unsure of this when you asked, but I'm personally all for it! Show the hxhd kids how it's done!
David
26-04-2017, 08:38 PM
close the help desk for a start
lotta pish, focus on events - i.e sack the manager and rebuild
myles
27-04-2017, 12:01 AM
Not even one? I rarely play Habbo. But whenever I login, there is normally a little something happening. For instance, even if there isn't an event running, despect; and HabboxLive do a great job at having the DJs make their own rooms and just chill in them while they're DJing. And these past few months, I know that they have had great success.
well i probably dont see it because the only people in the event are a group of habbox bitches who are 20+ but act like 13 year olds and are horrible to eachother
sort it out u absolute arse wipes!
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sack everyone and rebuilt the whole management team im sorry but its flawed everyone that 'works' in this fansite are all to involved in eachothers business and fail to realise that the habbo fansite is for everyone and not just for those tight knit frienship groups! i am speaking from experience because i remember being a nobody and not naming any names (Cassie) but people like her would look down on me and werent welcoming at all which is what made me decide to be so horrible to everyone. but thats not what this is about!!! u all need to sort this out or say goodbye to habbox! i guess i arrived at the right time to save u all from this sinking ship
Joining in late but my two pence: Habbo is dying and of course Habbox will go with it. Don't, however, think it's management's fault - believe its the best team it could be and still not managing to do enough. It really won't be long for Habbo I think.
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well i probably dont see it because the only people in the event are a group of habbox bitches who are 20+ but act like 13 year olds and are horrible to eachother
sort it out u absolute arse wipes!
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sack everyone and rebuilt the whole management team im sorry but its flawed everyone that 'works' in this fansite are all to involved in eachothers business and fail to realise that the habbo fansite is for everyone and not just for those tight knit frienship groups! i am speaking from experience because i remember being a nobody and not naming any names (Cassie) but people like her would look down on me and werent welcoming at all which is what made me decide to be so horrible to everyone. but thats not what this is about!!! u all need to sort this out or say goodbye to habbox! i guess i arrived at the right time to save u all from this sinking ship
All well and good saying rebuild the entire management team but you are aware that new users are needed to build that team? Habbox's retention is low due to lack of anything happening on the forum and then those that stay only 5% (guessing) are actually management-quality. There's a severe lack of young people who should be taking over the reigns.
nat965
27-04-2017, 08:33 AM
Great ideas in this topic. I'd chip in my 5 cents but Samantha already summed most of my points up.
There's a hell of a lot of fansites now - give people a reason to stay. Maybe 24 hour events is definitely a good thing. I'd join tomorrow if it wasn't for my life sched.
lemons
27-04-2017, 08:44 AM
Joining in late but my two pence: Habbo is dying and of course Habbox will go with it. Don't, however, think it's management's fault - believe its the best team it could be and still not managing to do enough. It really won't be long for Habbo I think.
if habbo is dying then why are other fansites, some that have been open a matter of months, absolutely booming with nearly 24/7 events and radio :o
if habbo is dying then why are other fansites, some that have been open a matter of months, absolutely booming with nearly 24/7 events and radio :o
I use dying to describe the rapid decline in online numbers etc. It's dying for us as a user, not as a company, as I'm sure they still make shit tons of money from teens with no expenditure to worry about, I know they did from me. It's Habbox in general, like someone said before it's full of adults who are just sticking around because they don't know anything else and it's probably automatic to type in habboxforum.com when you first open chrome - I know when i was AM it was the first thing I went to. New fansites are booming because they're full of enthusiastic children (that sounds arsey, it wasn't meant to be) who have time and money to spend on it - Habbox doesn't have that anymore and I feel like it never will. The simple fact we're having this conversation now proves that - I don't for once believe a fansite has ever hit this issue and bounced back from it.
FlyingJesus
27-04-2017, 04:51 PM
well i probably dont see it because the only people in the event are a group of habbox bitches who are 20+ but act like 13 year olds and are horrible to eachother
Yeah maybe we should tell each other to get cancer and pretend to be high school girls instead
New fansites are booming because they're full of enthusiastic children (that sounds arsey, it wasn't meant to be) who have time and money to spend on it - Habbox doesn't have that anymore
This is the entire problem basically. People join who then just disappear completely or grumble about finding the time to spend one hour a week doing a job that they volunteered for, while a large number of those who are enthused about doing it all have (understandably) banded together elsewhere and brought their friends along
myles
27-04-2017, 04:54 PM
was that a dig at me?
i think habboxs problem is that the entire management team is coming close to their 30s, like flying jesus for example
FlyingJesus
27-04-2017, 05:26 PM
Oh no someone mentioned my age, the horror! This thread was for constructive criticism and strategies to improve, not for failed trolls to try upsetting people with tired insults and baseless conjecture. The problems have already been stated, no need to get angry
lawrawrrr
27-04-2017, 07:04 PM
hello i've read this now
first point: I've been on ltd activity for close to three weeks as I've been doing DIY and moving - I haven't had longer than a week fully away since I became Content Manager in 2013 or 14 (don't remember) really so I don't really feel guilty for putting my real life first for ONCE - getting my house ready was kind of my priority
few things to comment on:
Skin - well, the developer is now working for another fansite and I haven't broached the topic since he begun there. Doubt they'd be happy with him working on our skins though.
RV - the plan is there, the functionality is working, just waiting on @dbgtz (https://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=28789); to finish the coding work, get a wiggle on boy!!!
Events - it's so easy to say omg just host more events ok but seriously HOW. We've done recruitment fairs, tom set up payments and rewards, but whatever we do to match - and exceed - what other fansites are doing - don't seem to work?
The fansites I see with successful events have like a core group of users that go from place to place but as others have mentioned, we struggle to recruit and retain new members - I'm not actually sure why as we're all very lovely and friendly and have loads of rewards and perks for being here! Also, a group of friends all join up to host events together or have a really strong bond whereas the majority of people we seem to hire aren't really interested in making friends or bonding (most immediately mute the chats in fact) so it's harder to like, make them want to stick around?
myles
27-04-2017, 07:32 PM
Oh no someone mentioned my age, the horror! This thread was for constructive criticism and strategies to improve, not for failed trolls to try upsetting people with tired insults and baseless conjecture. The problems have already been stated, no need to get angry
oh sweetie at least @ me if ur gonna speak shit about me! yeah this thread was for constructive criticism but ur the person who chose to start throwing digs at me! calm the frick down ur supposed to be 37 year old!
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hello i've read this now
first point: I've been on ltd activity for close to three weeks as I've been doing DIY and moving - I haven't had longer than a week fully away since I became Content Manager in 2013 or 14 (don't remember) really so I don't really feel guilty for putting my real life first for ONCE - getting my house ready was kind of my priority
few things to comment on:
Skin - well, the developer is now working for another fansite and I haven't broached the topic since he begun there. Doubt they'd be happy with him working on our skins though.
RV - the plan is there, the functionality is working, just waiting on @dbgtz (https://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=28789); to finish the coding work, get a wiggle on boy!!!
Events - it's so easy to say omg just host more events ok but seriously HOW. We've done recruitment fairs, tom set up payments and rewards, but whatever we do to match - and exceed - what other fansites are doing - don't seem to work?
The fansites I see with successful events have like a core group of users that go from place to place but as others have mentioned, we struggle to recruit and retain new members - I'm not actually sure why as we're all very lovely and friendly and have loads of rewards and perks for being here! Also, a group of friends all join up to host events together or have a really strong bond whereas the majority of people we seem to hire aren't really interested in making friends or bonding (most immediately mute the chats in fact) so it's harder to like, make them want to stick around?
you do you boo x if anyones going to complain that someone isnt devoting their whole life to a habbo fansite then they need to get a life and realise that people have better things to do sometimes x
lawrawrrr
27-04-2017, 07:34 PM
oh sweetie at least @ me if ur gonna speak shit about me! yeah this thread was for constructive criticism but ur the person who chose to start throwing digs at me! calm the frick down ur supposed to be 37 year old!
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you do you boo x if anyones going to complain that someone isnt devoting their whole life to a habbo fansite then they need to get a life and realise that people have better things to do sometimes x
I mean I devote 90% of my free time and like 50% of my life to habbox SOME PEOPLE JUST DON'T GET IT MYLES RESCUE ME
The Don
28-04-2017, 07:34 PM
This has been happening for years. As other people have said, it's difficult to gain and retain younger members when a large portion of the current members are significantly older and not interested in Habbo.
-:Undertaker:-
28-04-2017, 08:16 PM
I use dying to describe the rapid decline in online numbers etc. It's dying for us as a user, not as a company, as I'm sure they still make shit tons of money from teens with no expenditure to worry about, I know they did from me. It's Habbox in general, like someone said before it's full of adults who are just sticking around because they don't know anything else and it's probably automatic to type in habboxforum.com when you first open chrome - I know when i was AM it was the first thing I went to. New fansites are booming because they're full of enthusiastic children (that sounds arsey, it wasn't meant to be) who have time and money to spend on it - Habbox doesn't have that anymore and I feel like it never will. The simple fact we're having this conversation now proves that - I don't for once believe a fansite has ever hit this issue and bounced back from it.
I don't think any Habbo fansite has ever faced the same phase as we are now.
What really needs to happen if we're honest is all of the departments, especially those which are community based, and ultimate control (General Management) over the day to day running of the website be handed over to very young and active members of the Hotel who have lots of friends and who are active in the fansite world. That's not an attack on older members - a lot of us, myself included in my third (thus far last) stint in staff only came back/still take part in staff as a favour or out of loyalty. It's very admirable but for the good of ourselves and the website it isn't sustainable.
The likes of Laura really now should be merely there as a constitutional figurehead, an owner figure in the background. The running of departments, community and staff should be handed over to somebody aged 15 who still actually plays the game.
lawrawrrr
28-04-2017, 08:56 PM
i'm a little confused how people who barely go on habbo are able to make a justification on who plays the game or not???
I actually enjoy playing Habbo - might not be interested so much in hosting events or DJing but I'm often reading around forums there, doing little builds in diff rooms, I'm on almost every day even though I do see myself as more of a "figurehead" and general manager than getting into the nitty gritty, but loads of our managers and seniors play habbo properly on a regular basis? We also have quite a few younger people in staff who are pretty active as well but just don't post on the forum cos I will always maintain that utilising a forum is something that has gone out of fashion as technology gets more advanced and the new users don't bother with the older stuff!
-:Undertaker:-
28-04-2017, 09:21 PM
I repeat this isn't an attack on older members without whom, including yourself, we'd be at a loss over the many years. It's a strength of Habbox that so many of us older members and us who have served in management throughout a decade stick around. When departments or Habbox have fallen on hard times, we've dutifully stepped back in and volunteered.
But just because we were running it back in 2006 doesn't mean we're suited to still be running it in 2017.
i'm a little confused how people who barely go on habbo are able to make a justification on who plays the game or not???
If you're working full time and busy with a house... as you've said in your very own words throughout this thread. If you've got time to run the forum and play the game then I stand corrected - but can't then turn around when fundamental things aren't being done and questions are being asked why and claim you haven't got the time or are too busy with real life. It's one or the other.
That's why I said - as much as older users such as yourself, myself in the past and others hanging around and helping is very kind and loyal, it is time to hand over day-to-day running and all staff appointments to younger players: that's both for our own benefit and that of the website. When basic things other websites don't struggle with (new skins, new users) are taking us years to not achieve then there's something very wrong somewhere isn't there.
I offered to pay for new skins and even then it couldn't be organised.
I actually enjoy playing Habbo - might not be interested so much in hosting events or DJing but I'm often reading around forums there, doing little builds in diff rooms, I'm on almost every day even though I do see myself as more of a "figurehead" and general manager than getting into the nitty gritty, but loads of our managers and seniors play habbo properly on a regular basis? We also have quite a few younger people in staff who are pretty active as well but just don't post on the forum cos I will always maintain that utilising a forum is something that has gone out of fashion as technology gets more advanced and the new users don't bother with the older stuff!
Other forums seem to have plenty of posts from younger users.
When you say they're active, I wonder what active actually means. Does active mean coming on for the job? Does active mean coming on and chatting in a quiet room to other older members? If so, then I guess you could say I am sometimes 'active' when I come on. But the reality is, compared to myself in the past when I owned a popular trading room, had numerous contacts throughout the hotel and was a community figure - I am no longer active in the slightest. And it's them kind of people you need to run places like this.
One reason I have always thought that Habbox seizes up and is so slow or unable to do basic things is because by the time people got into Management and especially General Management they had lost interest or were too old. Truly active, younger members should be doing all of this and the rest of us wise elder folk should be the ornaments on the forum.
FlyingJesus
28-04-2017, 09:38 PM
utilising a forum is something that has gone out of fashion as technology gets more advanced and the new users don't bother with the older stuff!
This is definitely a major issue - one of the criterion for gaining points in my payment system is for X amount of posts and I've only had to add points on for that like 5 times in however many months I've been in charge. We try to push for the "community" to gel together but there's a huge huge huge divide because we not only have so many younger/newer folk who use the hotel but don't use the forum (and so don't always know what's what) but because we also have a split between the forum and our own homepage, which confuses things massively for new users. I know it's not something that can be done at the flick of a switch but integration of forum and site accounts as well as having the forum run through the homepage as a few other sites do would make it a lot smoother in the long run
lawrawrrr
28-04-2017, 10:05 PM
I repeat this isn't an attack on older members without whom, including yourself, we'd be at a loss over the many years. It's a strength of Habbox that so many of us older members and us who have served in management throughout a decade stick around. When departments or Habbox have fallen on hard times, we've dutifully stepped back in and volunteered.
But just because we were running it back in 2006 doesn't mean we're suited to still be running it in 2017.
If you're working full time and busy with a house... as you've said in your very own words throughout this thread. If you've got time to run the forum and play the game then I stand corrected - but can't then turn around when fundamental things aren't being done and questions are being asked why and claim you haven't got the time or are too busy with real life. It's one or the other.
That's why I said - as much as older users such as yourself, myself in the past and others hanging around and helping is very kind and loyal, it is time to hand over day-to-day running and all staff appointments to younger players: that's both for our own benefit and that of the website. When basic things other websites don't struggle with (new skins, new users) are taking us years to not achieve then there's something very wrong somewhere isn't there.
I offered to pay for new skins and even then it couldn't be organised.
Other forums seem to have plenty of posts from younger users.
When you say they're active, I wonder what active actually means. Does active mean coming on for the job? Does active mean coming on and chatting in a quiet room to other older members? If so, then I guess you could say I am sometimes 'active' when I come on. But the reality is, compared to myself in the past when I owned a popular trading room, had numerous contacts throughout the hotel and was a community figure - I am no longer active in the slightest. And it's them kind of people you need to run places like this.
One reason I have always thought that Habbox seizes up and is so slow or unable to do basic things is because by the time people got into Management and especially General Management they had lost interest or were too old. Truly active, younger members should be doing all of this and the rest of us wise elder folk should be the ornaments on the forum.
On my phone now so just replying to one bit - the skins - as I told you, we found someone to code but then we priortised a new site which I was initially under the impression would happen a lot quicker than it has done. Then I worked on RV, same story. I genuinely have been doing a lot of work on all those projects so I don't think it's fair to say oh you don't have time you're so busy irl etc cos I don't have much if any of a social life so I spend that time on Habbox - I've been trying hard to make things happen but I can't physically code, I can't host 24/7 events, I can't dj much, just a few examples so we are reliant on people working together and it just seems like we have so few people and struggle to get those people to work for things.
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dbgtz
28-04-2017, 10:15 PM
I'll just chime in quickly as an RV defence. I'd say Laura does what she can (plus more tbh) but it's down to a combination of many things that's taking it as long as it has and I wouldn't really put it down to her. Tbh I haven't read it all apart from the big I was tagged in roughly.
scottish
29-04-2017, 08:31 AM
Just skimmed the last few posts, what always seems to come about from posts like these is 'we need more younger people / give management to younger people, etc' but you realise we need younger people to give them management yeah?
You can't just promote younger people into manager roles or AGM etc if they don't exist and take part in the website lol
lawrawrrr
29-04-2017, 08:52 AM
We actually do have some younger managers ATM (also tommy is around that age remember) who are doing fab work (@madison442; - articles manager sorry I can't remember your exact username!!! who is a great example). The younger people we get tend to leave much quicker though - for promotions elsewhere, cos of exams, cos of school stress, in my experiences!!
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This thread has come up every few months for the last several years. Habbo is dying and so is Habbox with it. Several years ago when I was on here regularly, management were stubborn, felt powerful (pathetic considering it is just an online forum) and refused to listen to user ideas. For some reason, whatever the management did try, it failed. Habbox used to be popular back in the day due to Rare Values, help desks etc which are no longer required. These attracted people to the site, which led people to go on the forum.
nat965
29-04-2017, 10:06 PM
This is definitely a major issue - one of the criterion for gaining points in my payment system is for X amount of posts and I've only had to add points on for that like 5 times in however many months I've been in charge. We try to push for the "community" to gel together but there's a huge huge huge divide because we not only have so many younger/newer folk who use the hotel but don't use the forum (and so don't always know what's what) but because we also have a split between the forum and our own homepage, which confuses things massively for new users.
A little off topic, but whatever.
I will use what I call the disco analogy here and think that it fits well.
Years ago, in the days of vinyl, a mate of my dad's ran a successful mobile disco, did wedding receptions, surprise birthday parties etc. He used to go and help with the equipment. He watched and learned how he would find the right song to get everyone on the dance floor. So the next thing was what? To keep them there, so he would need to find the next song and the next one and so on, to retain interest.
Same with forums. Once a member creates a first topic then the existing members must encourage that as best they can and once the other members do, they can be encouraged to think - 'hey, that wasn't so bad' and begin creating their own.
I think it's called the cold water syndrome - a new member might fear posting a first topic... "What if no-one pays any attention to it?" etc - scared to put their feet in the cold water.
But, in saying that I can see it being confusing to younger members with the modern technology like Facebook and the integration of the forum and site into one.
There are 16 managers and it doesn't look at a glance like any are making much of an impact. The fact that u can't even name your articles manager is telling of how distant the departments are from one another and how little they must band together on the game itself. Everybody should know everybody in a small community like this.
stop pushing 'community' as being involved in the forum and build the community in the hotel first. People go to games like this because of its uniqueness and the opportunity to express themselves in a variety of ways and so if they don't sign up to the forum and get involved with discussions it's not a great loss - they will probably sign up eventually and ease into posting if they can but we're probably drawn here by something else. The majority of old members here identified with habbox originally because of the rare values, and most would chat in the help desk or events rather than on the forum until much later. Yes reward people for posting but offer much lower thresholds. I had a look at the new rewards system and people have to make 20 threads or 100 posts in a week to get a point? What the fuck guys? Might be worth analysing and rethinking this one? An incentive or a reward is supposed to actually make people do things, not be a byproduct of an activity spike.
age of current members is not relevant if you create events that appeal to other demographics. This is not about current members falling away and is about the failure to attract newer ones. Prizes for events are not in line with current economy and as the former leader in that field this is really embarrassing for habbox. even the type of things you guys seem to still host is laughable. Giveaways for radio listeners? What year is it? Very young people go to giveaways and very young people do not play the game as frequently as teens so won't stick around. plumping up your stats is not indicative of any actual engagement.
use your staff members and pool your resources to get anybody active on the game helping out and making it a nice atmosphere. You do not need a recruitment specialist you need to offer entertainment for users and cater to them just a bit better. You need to listen when concerns are raised and take on negative feedback as constructive criticism.
Habbox is dated and management seemingly are out of touch with what works and who they're selling to. props to everyone that puts time into the site and it's community tho keep going and u might be able to fix this.
Because I'm not active anymore
FlyingJesus
01-05-2017, 03:20 PM
stop pushing 'community' as being involved in the forum and build the community in the hotel first.
This is 100% correct, we have for so long (and I'm as guilty as anybody here) been concerned with grabbing a user's attention and straight away saying "hey sign up to the forum! see you there! ok bye" when what we really need is to make an actual connection with them on the client. So often when events finish the room empties and that's that, but it would be great if instead we were all like ok the event's done but let's party woopwoop and flip down a tele to hxhd or something, or even just change the room name and make it a dance-off or something, idk something entertaining that keeps people involved and wanting to come see us in the future. Again, the biggest problem is getting people to just care
[QUOTE=Kyle;8515009]Prizes for events are not in line with current economy
This is also correct, most sites give out a flat 2c per game and I do 5-10 generally :P
DJ-Tripjay
23-05-2017, 04:40 PM
I MEAN MAYBIE WE SHOULD ASK FOR HELP
scottish
23-05-2017, 05:15 PM
from who exactly lol
Martin
23-05-2017, 05:42 PM
I MEAN MAYBIE WE SHOULD ASK FOR HELP
from who exactly lol
Habbox Helpdesk obv omg
https://image.prntscr.com/image/00661020decc4dccac404826c1dcd6ce.png
But yeah, not sure what you mean by asking for help :P
DJ-Tripjay
23-05-2017, 11:59 PM
ask habbo, evan other fansites, never any shame in asking for help
Sloths
24-05-2017, 12:31 AM
Habbox Helpdesk obv omg
https://image.prntscr.com/image/00661020decc4dccac404826c1dcd6ce.png
But yeah, not sure what you mean by asking for help :P
omg why did none of my staff help you :O
o/t I really doubt other fansites are going to help us stay afloat, surely they'll be waiting for the ship to sink and steal all our members for themselves?
Landon
24-05-2017, 12:45 AM
all our members for themselves?
Not many to steal :P
Sloths
24-05-2017, 04:04 AM
Not many to steal :P
Come on, apparently we have 660 active members. While it may not seem like it there's definitely a decent amount of us still hanging on!
Landon
24-05-2017, 04:25 AM
Come on, apparently we have 660 active members. While it may not seem like it there's definitely a decent amount of us still hanging on!
Assuming settings are set to default, an active member is defined as someone that has logged in in the past 30 days lol. And trust me when I say this, that number doesn't measure true activity on the forum.
scottish
24-05-2017, 10:00 AM
ask habbo, evan other fansites, never any shame in asking for help
Habbo aren't going to do anything? We already do official events and are part of their official fansites, aren't they also like cutting back all their staff? lol
Other fansites look out for themselves, if one of our 'competitors' (idk who the other fansites are) came to us and said they're struggling we wouldn't actively help them lol, part of being a fansite is getting the users to join you and stick with you over other fansites.
So it's nothing about shame or embarrassment, it's simply that neither would be useful.
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Assuming settings are set to default, an active member is defined as someone that has logged in in the past 30 days lol. And trust me when I say this, that number doesn't measure true activity on the forum.
Active member is never going to measure activity on the forum as most people don't post and simply browse. We have what 80-100 users log in per day and only a fraction of them post.
all good things come to an end
GoldenMerc
24-05-2017, 11:07 AM
all good things come to an end
like your love for @Cerys (https://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=75591); shes moved on to gina !!!
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David
24-05-2017, 11:08 AM
steal all our members
all 10 of them
and theyre already people others dont want
except Gina; she's in high demand
FlyingJesus
24-05-2017, 12:49 PM
Speaking of not being wanted
DJ-Tripjay
24-05-2017, 02:05 PM
not everybody plays dirt you miss 100 percent of the shots you never take
all 10 of them
and theyre already people others dont want
except Gina; she's in high demand
what can i say tbh !
GoldenMerc
25-05-2017, 02:50 PM
like your love for @Cerys (https://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=75591); shes moved on to gina !!!
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lol 10 active members and habbox still gives warnings etc
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