European Elections 2019 Megathread [POLL]

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European Elections 2019

If Britain has not left the European Union before the 23rd May then the country will take part


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Political parties backing Leave:

Brexit Party - Leave with No Deal if the EU does not soften its position.

Labour Party - Leave with the Prime Minister's Deal but with a Customs Union included.

Conservative Party - Leave with the Prime Minister's Deal.

Ukip - Leave with No Deal by unilateral revocation of all EU law.


Political parties backing Remain:


Change UK - A second referendum.

Liberal Democrats - A second referendum.

Green Party - A second referendum.


The latest polling currently has...


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Vote in the Poll and post below!

[scottish]

No-one, like every other election.

[Neversoft]

Not voting

[sexpot]

no one tbh

[Triz]

Have never voted, and don't plan to start.

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Another poll out this morning.

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[Zak]

The times they are a-changin'

Feels like the winter of discontent

[Jarkie]

Same story every year. Nothing really changes. The councillor who won in my area - all he cares about is bin pick up days.

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Government today confirmed these elections *will* go ahead.

My proxy vote application (as I am abroad) went in the post the other day.

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Great analysis by Sky's Lewis Goodall below.


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Latest European Elections poll has the Brexit Party now polling what Labour and the Tories are polling combined.

But that isn't even the most interesting poll. Look at the second poll for General Election voting intentions.... They're 1% away from overtaking.

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Another bombshell poll out tonight for General Election voting intentions. The Tory Party is sinking before our eyes.

The political class are reaping what they sowed for ignoring we, the working classes.

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I'm sorry for another post in a row, but another delicious poll just came out then. Not only are the Conservatives now on the edge of single digits, Labour are also collapsing in the polls too. Both parties now only polling a combined 26% together when they scored 80%+ in the 2017 General Election. Remarkable.

The Brexit Party now has a staggering 18-point lead.

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And the Westminster polling it also showing both major parties collapsing, polling 48% together. Historic lows.

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A week to go folks...

The Brexit Party now has over 100,000 paying supporters, will overtake the Tories in a week or so.

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[dbgtz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5qxehLbHiQ

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@dbgtz (https://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=28789);

Can't believe I sat through 12 minutes of Channel 4's so called "News" to be told what I knew in 2013, that Aaron Banks donates money to eurosceptic causes. The next C4 "news" segment will feature a bear shitting in the woods, possibly alleging said bear to be a Russian agent.

Also, love this clip they've put together. Instantly shared on social media.

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YouGov just out. Up again! What's more, Labour absolutely diving now, following the Tories who are now in single-figures.

Reminder that postal ballots are now being sent in as we speak by a sizable portion of voters too. My Nan sent hers off (Brexit Party) a couple of days ago.


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Tonight the Brexit Party overtook the Conservatives in General Election voting intention. Remarkable.

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[dbgtz]

how is bankrolling an individual post-referendum (before the whole betrayal narrative) donating to eurosceptic causes lol
and farage clearly wanted to hide it given he denied it but also sort of confirmed it, then arron banks then confirmed it

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/nigel-farage-boasts-about-money-from-mep-job-1-6049103

also seems like the brexit party & their funding is going to be under serious scrutinty soon as they haven't been recording data properly and have no real measures in place to prevent foreign donations

the worst part about all of this is how, when asked difficult questions by the media that he can't answer, he just deflects it and then goes on to criticise the organisation for being biased (see his appearance on Andrew Marr on the 6th(?))
what an absolute joke

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Excuses and mad conspiracy theories already rolling in then before this Thursday.

Another vote you'll bat away and refuse to accept? dbgtz;

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[dbgtz]

Excuses and mad conspiracy theories already rolling in then before this Thursday.

Another vote you'll bat away and refuse to accept? dbgtz;

how is any of what i said a conspiracy theory

its pretty much confirmed he was funded by aaron banks for the year(s) following the referendum
that video is literally him
they probably havent been recording data properly (as they havent asked for it) and potentially have been allowing foreign donations through their paypal (farage constantly says its all in sterling, paypal converts the money)
he does deflect any hard or perhaps better described as unpopular questions

please do enlighten me

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Aaron Banks paid for his security, accommodation and events. And so what? Conspiracy theories about Russia, foreign money, Aaron Banks and now throwing milkshakes. You guys are just absolutely clueless aren't you as to why you're losing so badly. Roll on Thursday.

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And here's some more polls from Wales. (Euro/Westminster/Assembly)


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[dbgtz]

Aaron Banks paid for his security, accommodation and events. And so what?

what does AB get from this arrangement?
also it calls into question if he should have been declaring this the whole time
also the fact farage constantly claims to be a man of the people and that theres "no money in politics" despite the up to 250k a year he claimed he could bring in plus AB paying all this


Conspiracy theories about Russia, foreign money, Aaron Banks and now throwing milkshakes. You guys are just absolutely clueless aren't you as to why you're losing so badly. Roll on Thursday.

you completely failed to explain how what i said was a conspiracy theory and instead just said its a conspiracy theory

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what does AB get from this arrangement?
also it calls into question if he should have been declaring this the whole time
also the fact farage constantly claims to be a man of the people and that theres "no money in politics" despite the up to 250k a year he claimed he could bring in plus AB paying all this

Aaron Banks funds a cause he believes in like the dozens of other political donors in this country. Jesus, stop with these nutter conspiracies.

And I will be adding my £25, along with the 110,000 who already have, to Mr Farage's crusade as soon as my bank card is working.

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Meanwhile, showing just how Brexit is a black hole now sucking the entire establishment into it...

If you'd have told me Ann Widdecombe would be expelled from the Tories and Lord Heseltine would be suspended... just incredible.

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[Zak]

he does deflect any hard or perhaps better described as unpopular questions


to be fair isn't this every politician? :P

[dbgtz]

Aaron Banks funds a cause he believes in like the dozens of other political donors in this country. Jesus, stop with these nutter conspiracies.

And I will be adding my £25, along with the 110,000 who already have, to Mr Farage's crusade as soon as my bank card is working.

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Meanwhile, showing just how Brexit is a black hole now sucking the entire establishment into it...

If you'd have told me Ann Widdecombe would be expelled from the Tories and Lord Heseltine would be suspended... just incredible.

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again, how is funding an individual funding a cause lol you havent actually explained how anything i said is a conspiracy theory

btw seems like the brexit party just banned channel 4 from attending their events after their report into the funding soooooooooo


to be fair isn't this every politician? :P

most politicians attempt to answer questions in such a way they dont actually answer it

farage, in his marr interview at least, would simply say the bbc wasnt interested in brexit despite the questions being about what the party (a party who currently intends to stand in the ge afaik) stands for which are perfectly valid questions

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So tonight, this desperate PM committed the ultimate betrayal and gave Parliament the chance to vote for a rigged second referendum if they back her treasonous Still-In-The-EU Deal with a Customs Union added on. Thankfully the numbers aren't there, indeed tonight Tory MPs who did vote for it last time are now turning around and saying absolutely not. I cannot believe I voted for her. She's been worse than I could have possibly imagined - and a barefaced LIAR. I'm furious. This is no longer even about the European Union, this is about democracy itself.

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again, how is funding an individual funding a cause lol you havent actually explained how anything i said is a conspiracy theory

Aaron Banks funded Nigel Farage. Again, my question is so what?

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btw seems like the brexit party just banned channel 4 from attending their events after their report into the funding soooooooooo

Good.

[dbgtz]

Aaron Banks funded Nigel Farage. Again, my question is so what?

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it's not a normal thing to give someone hundreds of thousands of pounds
pretty sure hes also under investigation by the nca as well



Good.

please explain how it is a good thing

also please explain to me why the party would do this if there was nothing wrong with the 450k

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it's not a normal thing to give someone hundreds of thousands of pounds
pretty sure hes also under investigation by the nca as well

It isn't normal but Nigel Farage is not a normal person and neither is a political donor.


please explain how it is a good thing

Channel 4 "News" by any objective standard is not a news organisation, but a propaganda outlet.

It is also funded by the EU, apparently: http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-91-632_en.htm


also please explain to me why the party would do this if there was nothing wrong with the 450k

What's wrong with the £450,000? Neither you or C4 Fake News can actually tell us, can you?

[dbgtz]

It isn't normal but Nigel Farage is not a normal person and neither is a political donor.

thats a pretty poor reason but ok



Channel 4 "News" by any objective standard is not a news organisation, but a propaganda outlet.

my sides
you spout shit like the daily mail or RT as gospel but channel 4 is the propaganda outlet



It is also funded by the EU, apparently: http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-91-632_en.htm

no it isnt, those are uk funded schemes the eu has approved as not being anti-competitive
see all the replies to this tweet here for more information: https://twitter.com/_HenryBolton/status/1059610744042467329
from what i can see in the replies, it relates to this: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2000/nov/20/broadcasting.mondaymediasection2

it would have taking a moment of a) applying a greater degree of reading comprehension and b) a bit of research to realise you were wrong


What's wrong with the £450,000? Neither you or C4 Fake News can actually tell us, can you?

now youre just being silly calling c4 fake news when theyve agreed it happened
basic and open journalism is about presenting the facts, which they have

ive already told you what i think is/could be wrong with it so yes i did

i honestly just dont think you can stand any kind of criticism, no matter how legitimate it may be
you cant even stop to think that "hmm, maybe it is a bit odd they banned media they dont like from attending major political events run by the party" no somehow its channel 4s fault for reasons you just made up

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dbgtz;

I posted a full reply but then thought, what I am even arguing against here? It's a straw man argument.

If and when you or C4 "News" actually find some evidence of wrongdoing, then report it and have him charged. Until then, it's all hocus pocus.

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Final YouGov and Opinium Polls.

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[dbgtz]

I posted a full reply but then thought, what I am even arguing against here? It's a straw man argument.

i dont think that means what you think it means


If and when you or C4 "News" actually find some evidence of wrongdoing, then report it and have him charged. Until then, it's all hocus pocus.

so you make proven false claims about channel 4 but dont accept it was wrong, and somehow they are the ones spreading fake news
or you do admit you were wrong

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Final Ipsos.

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Let's do this!!


i dont think that means what you think it means

so you make proven false claims about channel 4 but dont accept it was wrong, and somehow they are the ones spreading fake news
or you do admit you were wrong

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[dbgtz]

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whats that got to do with you lying about c4 being funded by the eu

here is channel 4s statement on the same thing which i doubt you even bothered to think about looking for
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now do you care to tell me which one has a bunch of holes in it

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Results at 10pm on Sunday night folks. Anyone staying up to watch?

Here's two great clips from #BBCQT from tonight. Medal for that lady!

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British results will be start coming through at 10:00pm tonight, apart from Northern Ireland which is counting tomorrow.

Meanwhile, the French have released an Exit Poll which shows Marine Le Pen's National Rally winning.

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Results so far.

Brexit Party over 50% in some local areas. Amazing for a 5-week old party.


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Final results, excluding Northern Ireland.

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[dbgtz]

no majority for hard brexit
no majority for soft brexit
no majority for remain

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no majority for hard brexit
no majority for soft brexit
no majority for remain

Lucky we had a referendum in 2016 to decide it.

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[dbgtz]

cool except its now 2019

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cool except its now 2019

And still waiting for it to be implemented.

Imagine if we held a General Election and the losing party was still in power 3 years later.

[dbgtz]

basically just described a minority government