Brexit Countdown to 11:00pm on the 31st January 2020

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Brexit Countdown

Britain on-track to withdraw from the European Union at 11pm on the 31st January 2020


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A thread to follow the now-certain departure of Britain from the European Union in 45 days. Feel free to post.


The EU Withdrawal Agreement is expected to come back to the House of Commons this Friday.

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[Zak]

When I was in Germany a police officer made a joke about Brexit.. (rolleyes) At least he thought it was funny.. :')

The people have spoken, lets see what happens next..

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When I was in Germany a police officer made a joke about Brexit.. (rolleyes) At least he thought it was funny.. :')

The people have spoken, lets see what happens next..

Same here, always happens abroad.

Never thought I would be floating along the River Nile on a raft in Uganda discussing Brexit with a Ugandan, two Britons and two Australians.

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Great news here. Essentially the below means that EU law will be dismantled much more quickly. It'll still take years, but as a body of law it'll be taken apart continuously by both the government and the courts. Taking Back Control as promised by the Leave campaign in 2016.

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The Withdrawal Bill passes second reading.

It still has to go to the House of Lords in the New Year, than back to the House of Commons and Royal Assent... but this is practically it.

Once this becomes Act, Britain will have passed the relevant legislation to end it's 46 years EU membership. I've waited over a decade for this.

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[dbgtz]

glad we are leaving the unelected bureaucrats of the eu to replace them with our own unelected bureaucrats, nicky morgan and zac goldsmith

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glad we are leaving the unelected bureaucrats of the eu to replace them with our own unelected bureaucrats, nicky morgan and zac goldsmith

The (soon to be) Lord Goldsmith and The Baroness Morgan are peers of the realm, and are therefore parliamentarians not bureaucrats.

[dbgtz]

The (soon to be) Lord Goldsmith and The Baroness Morgan are peers of the realm, and are therefore parliamentarians not bureaucrats.

ignoring that there's no justifiable reason for goldsmith to be in the lords having done nothing notable, they're both in cabinet so they are bureaucrats

ignoring your pedantry too, your whole critique of the EU was theyre unelected and can't be voted out - goldsmith was literally voted out of his seat yet he still retains both a seat in parliament and a cabinet position. please do justify how this is ok

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ignoring that there's no justifiable reason for goldsmith to be in the lords having done nothing notable, they're both in cabinet so they are bureaucrats

I could think of more deserving people to be granted peerages, that is true.

And no, wrong. They are in Parliament and are therefore parliamentarians. Bureaucrats work in Whitehall, not Parliament.


ignoring your pedantry too, your whole critique of the EU was theyre unelected and can't be voted out - goldsmith was literally voted out of his seat yet he still retains both a seat in parliament and a cabinet position. please do justify how this is ok

I support the House of Lords and have no problem with some Cabinet ministers being from the upper house. This is nothing unusual, with The Lord Mandelson, The Lord Carrington and The Earl Home all serving in high office and sitting in the Cabinet. There's a few other examples in more junior office in recent history also, but those are the ones that spring to mind.

You're misunderstanding my opposition to the European system with the British system. The European Commission does not come from the European Parliament, it comes from outside via appointment by member states and then approval by the European Parliament. Her Majesty's Government comes from Parliament, and derives its authority from election. Our ministers sit in Parliament, and mostly have constituencies where they are directly accountable.

If you wanted a comparison in British history that is similar to the European system today, you would have to go right back to even before the Parliament Act (1911) which rightly trimmed the power of the House of Lords, back to when the Privy Council (mainly), Star Chamber and Witenagemot were appointed by the Sovereign as a body of bureaucrats to act as a government rather than coming from Parliament itself.

Her Majesty's Government comes from inside Parliament, the European Commission comes from outside Parliament.

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Actually, a more recent comparison one could make would be in the British Empire how colonial governments were at first chosen. Ministers, with the support of the Imperial Parliament, selected and appointed colonial governors and ministers who then ruled over the colonies. Those colonial bureaucracies acted as governments with wide-ranging powers defined in treaties - as the European Commission does - but without coming from a Parliament themselves.

This changed as time went on, with more input from native royalty/chiefs/Dominion Parliaments, but still a similar method of appointment.

[Zak]

glad we are leaving the unelected bureaucrats of the eu to replace them with our own unelected bureaucrats, nicky morgan and zac goldsmith

To be fair, the swing in my constituency was massive, it's a Tory voting area. Half of the residents wouldn't have a clue who our MP is .. elected though he is, is he really? The answer is yes but I'm sure you know where I'm coming from..

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Not long now...

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Withdrawal Bill clears the Commons for the final time. Now off to the Lords.

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With just 16 days to go and just over 400 hours in the EU left, British MEPs today had their redundancy meetings and group photographs.

Final session in the Strasbourg Parliament with fireworks from Ann Widdecombe.


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Into single figures now.

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Her Majesty The Queen has today signed the bill into law (royal assent), making it an Act of Parliament.

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Now we wait for the European Parliament to pass their copy next week.

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The European Parliament tonight voted to ratify the Withdrawal Agreement by 621 vote to 49 votes.

The UK-EU Withdrawal Agreement is now international law.

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Meanwhile Nigel Farage, the man who made all this happen, gave his final speech and walked out with other MEPs waving their flags.

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Remainer MEPs stood singing after the vote with other European MEPs.

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[Zak]

Today's the day. Third world here we come!

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the important question is are EHIC's still valid?

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Been dining on Indian curry and Scottish whiskey tonight in celebration.

Well, here we ago. After decades of our journey on "ever closer union", Britain is about leave the EU after 47 years.

I got into this whole fight 13 years ago, when I first became politically aware and saw the main parties abandoning promises to give the British people the ultimate say as to whether powers were handed over to the EU with the Lisbon Treaty in 2007. From that moment on, I was determined and convinced that we had to leave given where this was heading. From being laughed at as fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, to attending Ukip meetings in scruffy backrooms of hotels, to handing out thousands of leaflets for Vote Leave and then fighting a Parliament that never accepted leaving, what a hell of a political fight.

Countless politicians and people, many long dead, fought for Britain's independence from continental entanglement. From Sir Winston Churchill to The Earl Attlee, to Enoch Powell, Tony Benn, The Baroness Thatcher and Michael Foot - and many many others. From the thousands of Ukip, Better Off Out, Labour Leave, Trade Union, Brexit Party, Conservative Party members and volunteers who were laughed at and abused. For the millions of voters who voted in the referendum. Thank you.

And above all from me, thank you Nigel Farage.


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Whether you voted Leave or Remain, we're all Britons. Be proud of our country, and work to make the best of it.





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[Zak]

I see we woke up this morning to absolute chaos

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Got a little emotional last night watching that Sky News montage below of people celebrating from Dover to Glasgow.

It doesn't just feel liberating in that it is an act of political liberation, but also that working people have felt they actually have a voice.

And yes @Zak (https://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=33322);, amazingly the sky hasn't fallen in!

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[dbgtz]

to reiterate, we are still effectively in the eu and operate under eu legislation until the end of the year (or end of 2021 if extended) there was no substantial difference between 10:59pm and 11:01pm yesterday

just going to dump these here too
"getting our courts back from germany"
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brexit was never about xenophobia
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flag burning because thats always a sign of peace and friendship

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Sky Data poll finds that Boris Johnson enjoying a honeymoon as PM, on 52%

With the public more optimistic than pessimistic that Brexit will benefit the country and themselves as individuals.

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to reiterate, we are still effectively in the eu and operate under eu legislation until the end of the year (or end of 2021 if extended) there was no substantial difference between 10:59pm and 11:01pm yesterday

There's some differences, one is that we've just taken back our WTO seat as an independent nation. (sunglasses)

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just going to dump these here too
"getting our courts back from germany"

We all know what she means. That German judges rule over Britain in the ECJ and ECHR, which they do.

ECJ is ending. ECHR is Dominic *******'s next stated target.


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[dbgtz]

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There's some differences, one is that we've just taken back our WTO seat as an independent nation. (sunglasses)
this means nothing right now since we still follow all the eu rules of trade




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We all know what she means. That German judges rule over Britain in the ECJ and ECHR, which they do.

ECJ is ending. ECHR is Dominic *******'s next stated target.


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thats really easy for you to say but it seems like she genuinely believes the courts are in germany and there is german rule, neither of which are true given the ecj is in luxembourg and theres only one judge from each member state, so to say german judges rule over britain is a complete lie
its also amusing how you dont reply to the latter 2

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There's some differences, one is that we've just taken back our WTO seat as an independent nation. (sunglasses)
this means nothing right now since we still follow all the eu rules of trade




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We all know what she means. That German judges rule over Britain in the ECJ and ECHR, which they do.

ECJ is ending. ECHR is Dominic *******'s next stated target.


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thats really easy for you to say but it seems like she genuinely believes the courts are in germany and there is german rule, neither of which are true given the ecj is in luxembourg and theres only one judge from each member state, so to say german judges rule over britain is a complete lie
its also amusing how you dont reply to the latter 2

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this means nothing right now since we still follow all the eu rules of trade

Sure, for 10 more months. We're now able to start signing FTAs.


thats really easy for you to say but it seems like she genuinely believes the courts are in germany and there is german rule, neither of which are true given the ecj is in luxembourg and theres only one judge from each member state, so to say german judges rule over britain is a complete lie
its also amusing how you dont reply to the latter 2

Ruled from German-speaking Luxembourg then.

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Some beautiful post-Brexit polls to report.

Always said that opinion would start going against it once we'd left, much like Norway/Switzerland/Iceland where 70%+ are against joining.

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