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-:Undertaker:-
23-01-2021, 06:25 PM
How to strengthen the Union?


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With the ghastly SNP pushing for a second independence referendum rather than fix Scotland's appalling education system with some of the lowest standards in Europe, I thought it would be good to discuss/debate how to strengthen our Union and fend off the nationalists in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. What meaningful policies/ways can you think of to make the United Kingdom stronger?

I always felt in 2014 that the No campaign was awful, and listening to Cameron and Osborne witter on with scare stories made me want to seize the microphone and give a speech myself. A speech on how millions of Scots have died alongside Englishmen in the trenches, in deserts, in jungles defending one country. A speech on how the people of these islands are of shared blood, with my own family having Scot, Ulster and English blood. A speech on how our nuclear weapons and military keep us safe flying the Union Jack, not the St George's Cross or Saltire. You get the picture. Emotive! In my view, the SNP have only got this far because no one has yet made that bloody obvious argument.

Here's my ideas. What do you think of them? Agree, disagree or think of anything better?

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Saurav
01-02-2021, 08:32 PM
I agree with all of the above.

Espeically this:

Refuse any referendum

Quite frankly, I am fed up of Sturgeon going on and on and on about independence every damn time. She just wants her name in the history books. All politicians are selfish. I have so many Scottish customers, none of them want independence, and they are spread all over Scotland. Actually, they think Nicola is crazy.

-:Undertaker:-
03-02-2021, 08:52 AM
I agree with all of the above.

Espeically this:

Refuse any referendum

Quite frankly, I am fed up of Sturgeon going on and on and on about independence every damn time. She just wants her name in the history books. All politicians are selfish. I have so many Scottish customers, none of them want independence, and they are spread all over Scotland. Actually, they think Nicola is crazy.

To be quite frank, even if she were to get to hold a second referendum and won I don't see why there shouldn't then be a third referendum.

In 2014 as strong as a Unionist as I am, I backed the referendum going ahead to settle the issue which clearly had significant support in Scotland. But if she's going to just dismiss that first referendum because it didn't go her and the nationalists way, I don't see why unionists like myself and the other half of Scotland should accept the results of a second referendum that went in her favour. As they say, what's good for the goose...

Sturgeon clearly doesn't accept referendum results (2014 Scotland, 2016 Brexit) so why the hell should anyone accept when she wins one?

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