Coronation of King Charles III and Queen Camilla set for 6th May 2023

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Coronation of King Charles III and Queen Camilla set for 6th May 2023

The ceremony, dating back over 1,000 years, will see Their Majesties crowned with a public holiday already declared in Britain



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So another bank holiday off for those of you living in Britain... I expect other Commonwealth realm countries will also declare national holidays.

The Coronation involves the King, sitting in the St Edward's Throne, being crowned with the St Edward's Crown..... after which it is removed and replaced with the Imperial State Crown. The Queen will also be crowned in a shorter and simpler ceremony, expected to use the Crown of Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother which was first used in the 1937 Coronation - although there are other multiple consort crowns that she could also use. Following the ceremony in Westminster Abbey, Their Majesties will then take the Gold State Coach down the mall to Buckingham Palace and will appear on the balcony for the crowds.

It will be a pretty spectacular event, the only comparable event in terms of developed countries I can think of is the Enthronement of the Japanese Emperor.

I'll post any updates relating to the Coronation as they come in.

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The Queen's royal cypher has been unveiled, and interestingly uses the 'Crown of Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother' which suggests it'll be what she will be crowned with at the Coronation. It's known The King was very close with his grandmother, so naturally he will want his wife and consort to be crowned with his grandmother's crown despite some controversy over the Koh-i-Noor diamond set into it.

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This (below) is the crown in real life, hasn't been used since the death of The Queen Mother in 2002.


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Pubs set to be allowed to stay open late for the Coronation.

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The Queen has chosen the Crown of Queen Mary as her Coronation Crown.

It is being heavily refashioned with four of the eight arches removed, and is being set with Queen Elizabeth II's Cullion Diamonds in tribute to Her late Majesty.

Both this Crown (see in photo) and The King's Imperial State Crown are currently being remodelled.

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The first image of The King wearing a crown has been released, it shows his effigy with a Tudor Crown on a coin.

In 23 days time we'll see him actually wearing one (two, actually) in person for the first time.

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The official Coronation invite has also been unveiled, featuring various flowers representing England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

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The Coat of Arms of the United Kingdom have officially been changed, from this...

This will eventually be rolled out across courtrooms, our passports and everything to do with state affairs.


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To this...


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Here's the lesser version used by HM Government which has also changed from this...

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To this...
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We're starting to see a lot more details emerging now in the final 18 days.

I'm still waiting for the Governor of Gibraltar to release details of celebrations there as I'm taking a coach on Friday night there and staying until Sunday. My plan is (vaguely) to watch the Coronation that morning/midday in an old boozer type pub, enjoy any celebrations/armed forces parade in the town and then climb the Rock from bottom to top in commemoration. On Sunday i'll possibly cycle around Gibraltar/into Spain for a few hours.

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Flags of the 15 countries (Commonwealth realms) where The King is head of state now up on The Mall.

One more day to go!

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What a waste of my tax money.

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What a waste of my tax money.

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What a wonderful and memorable weekend in Gibraltar.

Watched the service in the square and on the following day scaled the entire rock, followed by Coronation chicken dish at local pub. GSTK.

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Official Coronation Photographs. Looks incredible, the image of him alone will define an era just as Elizabeth II's did.

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What do the family represent? Slavery and war. Glad to know what you support.

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What do the family represent? Slavery and war. Glad to know what you support.

The Crown represents the state and the country, and a thousand years of political tradition including the abolition of slavery across the seas, the abolition of cruel practices such as Sati and bribary. That's after all why your family chose to come to this supposed awful country, rather than staying in a place where slavery and war actually still exist in the modern era.


India accounts for almost 8 million or 20%, making it the largest contributor to modern slavery. This typically involves types of forced labor such as bonded labour, child labour, forced marriage, human trafficking, forced begging, and sexual slavery.

I guess that's what the Republic of India represents in 2023, and President Modi.

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The Crown represents the state and the country, and a thousand years of political tradition including the abolition of slavery across the seas, the abolition of cruel practices such as Sati and bribary. That's after all why your family chose to come to this supposed awful country, rather than staying in a place where slavery and war actually still exist in the modern era.



I guess that's what the Republic of India represents in 2023, and President Modi.



Dude, UK started slavery, so they cannot take credit for ending it. It's like me paying someone to rob you in public, then ringing them up and asking them to return the stolen goods, and trying to take credit. It's ridiculous. Modi government is not corrupt and has improved India siginificantly. Problem with people is, they like corruption and cannot bear to have someone who is straight and trying to end corruption as it means less black money in their pocket.

Quoting a 6 year old wikipedia article is ridiculous. It is like me saying HEY THE UK IS STILL IN THE EU because I read a 6 year old article.

India has more opportunities than UK. Clearly Spain has too, that is why you left this country.

I paid GBP300,000 in taxes last year, let me tell you, I help the country a lot more than someone who left this country for Spain.

Btw what does the royal family represent? Raping children, sleeping with others and cheating on their partners, killing their wives, trying to control power. Yep, that's what you support: A bunch of power seeking rapists and infidels.

Pound sign keep converting to "?"

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Dude, UK started slavery, so they cannot take credit for ending it.

Well that's news to the ancient Greeks, Romans, 11th century India, Ottomans, Berbers, Aztecs and Incas - all of whom had slavery before Britain had even formed.


Btw what does the royal family represent? Raping children, sleeping with others and cheating on their partners, killing their wives, trying to control power. Yep, that's what you support: A bunch of power seeking rapists and infidels.

I can only assume you're a time traveller from the Tudor era who hasn't yet been filled in with events since the Civil War and the Glorious Revolution, because your ignorance is astounding.

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Well that's news to the ancient Greeks, Romans, 11th century India, Ottomans, Berbers, Aztecs and Incas - all of whom had slavery before Britain had even formed.



I can only assume you're a time traveller from the Tudor era who hasn't yet been filled in with events since the Civil War and the Glorious Revolution, because your ignorance is astounding.

Ignorance how? Seen Prince Andrew? Seen all the drama with Prince Harry? No wonder The Crown ended the show, I mean people can watch the drama daily on TV.

Like I said, using slaves and then trying to take credit for ending it is hypocrisy. Let me go rob 30 people and then take credit for not robbing more people.

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Ignorance how? Seen Prince Andrew? Seen all the drama with Prince Harry? No wonder The Crown ended the show, I mean people can watch the drama daily on TV.

There's never any drama in republics amongst the presidental family, like the Clintons, the Nehru-Gandhis or the Bush's. Nope.


Like I said, using slaves and then trying to take credit for ending it is hypocrisy. Let me go rob 30 people and then take credit for not robbing more people.

And like I said, every civilisation and Empire in history has had slavery. It was the norm throughout the history of humanity.

But one Empire did put an end to it, not only in its own territories but it did something unpredecented in world history - it patrolled the high seas freeing slaves of other powers, bombarded slave trading cities into abandoning the practice and forced treaties on other countries outlawing it. Yes that's right, the British Empire did all that.

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There's never any drama in republics amongst the presidental family, like the Clintons, the Nehru-Gandhis or the Bush's. Nope.

There are two major differences which you fail to understand. Term limits and people vote for these people.

Royal family have no term limits, and no one voted for them. They are being forced upon you.

You ignored me, if the UK is so amazing to you, why did you run away to Spain?

We claim to remove dictators from the world, yet we are blind to the fact we have one at the top of the country. Yes, they have little to zero power, but my tax money pays for them and I do not get a say.

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There are two major differences which you fail to understand. Term limits and people vote for these people.

Royal family have no term limits, and no one voted for them. They are being forced upon you.

How are they being forced on us when the monarchy enjoys widespread public consent and approval?


You ignored me, if the UK is so amazing to you, why did you run away to Spain?

Well I didn't run anywhere really, indeed I am working in Britain this summer with a job lined up.

Not sure what this obsession is with me working/living abroad whilst young and mobile is.


We claim to remove dictators from the world, yet we are blind to the fact we have one at the top of the country. Yes, they have little to zero power, but my tax money pays for them and I do not get a say.

And yet you had no issue with European Commissioners actually making law and being unelected.

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How are they being forced on us when the monarchy enjoys widespread public consent and approval?



Well I didn't run anywhere really, indeed I am working in Britain this summer with a job lined up.

Not sure what this obsession is with me working/living abroad whilst young and mobile is.



And yet you had no issue with European Commissioners actually making law and being unelected.

Well what is the difference between me leaving India for UK? You seemed to jump on that so why is it different to you leaving UK for a third world country?



"Widespread public consent and approval" ... A total of 26% of people surveyed said the monarchy was “quite important” in 2021.

On eve of king’s coronation, survey shows only three in 10 Britons think monarchy is ‘very important’

British public support for monarchy at historic low, poll reveals

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/apr/28/public-support-monarchy-historic-low-poll-reveals

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Well what is the difference between me leaving India for UK? You seemed to jump on that so why is it different to you leaving UK for a third world country?

Well the difference is that I don't move to Spain and rip the country and its institutions. I have no axe to grind with Spain.


"Widespread public consent and approval" ... A total of 26% of people surveyed said the monarchy was “quite important” in 2021.

On eve of king’s coronation, survey shows only three in 10 Britons think monarchy is ‘very important’

British public support for monarchy at historic low, poll reveals

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/apr/28/public-support-monarchy-historic-low-poll-reveals

Check polling for republican support and it is broadly the same as it was going back decades, between 18% and 25%.

This is an institution that enjoys support of 70%+ of the public. Immensely popular compared to other public institutions.

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Well the difference is that I don't move to Spain and rip the country and its institutions. I have no axe to grind with Spain.



Check polling for republican support and it is broadly the same as it was going back decades, between 18% and 25%.

This is an institution that enjoys support of 70%+ of the public. Immensely popular compared to other public institutions.



Quoting polling data with no evidence, typical.

Considering I have lived in this country for the majority of my life and I pay considerable amount of tax, create jobs and that there is freedom of speech, I can criticise the Royal Family as much as I want.

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Quoting polling data with no evidence, typical.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republicanism_in_the_United_Kingdom

The monarchy support % is also often under represented in polling as we saw in the Australian polling prior to the 1999 republic referendum, where polling consistently suggested a republic was inevitable but which the monarchy won by a decent margin. That's why Australian republicans are so frit about asking the question again, because their polling position is worse now than it was in the early and mid 1990s when they were slaughtered despite having the odds stacked in their favour.

It's also the reason why republican politicians in other Commonwealth realms constantly threaten a republic, but then shy away from it because many realm constitutions require referendums on the topic and the polling is far from certain that they'll win, especially when a specific republican model is proposed which splits the republican camp.


Considering I have lived in this country for the majority of my life and I pay considerable amount of tax, create jobs and that there is freedom of speech, I can criticise the Royal Family as much as I want.

Right but you now know the difference between you and I, in that I don't move to another country and then proceed to **** it off sundry.

And I really couldn't care how much tax you pay, nationality isn't a stock market commodity to be bought and sold.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republicanism_in_the_United_Kingdom

The monarchy support % is also often under represented in polling as we saw in the Australian polling prior to the 1999 republic referendum, where polling consistently suggested a republic was inevitable but which the monarchy won by a decent margin. That's why Australian republicans are so frit about asking the question again, because their polling position is worse now than it was in the early and mid 1990s when they were slaughtered despite having the odds stacked in their favour.

It's also the reason why republican politicians in other Commonwealth realms constantly threaten a republic, but then shy away from it because many realm constitutions require referendums on the topic and the polling is far from certain that they'll win, especially when a specific republican model is proposed which splits the republican camp.



Right but you now know the difference between you and I, in that I don't move to another country and then proceed to **** it off sundry.

And I really couldn't care how much tax you pay, nationality isn't a stock market commodity to be bought and sold.



I am not wasting my time reading wikipedia, send a link to a reputable recent[B] polling if you want to be credible.

No, moving shows how little you think of the UK, actions speak louder than words.

And actually, you can buy British citizenship with money via investory visa, so you are wrong ONCE AGAIN.... well wrong most (if not all) of the time.

Your response will not be read as you cannot find a credible source to backup the crap you talk about. I am not wasting my time replying to you. Goodbye.

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I am not wasting my time reading wikipedia, send a link to a reputable recent[B] polling if you want to be credible.

Ha! What like the republican Guardian newspaper that you linked me?


No, moving shows how little you think of the UK, actions speak louder than words.

And actually, you can buy British citizenship with money via investory visa, so you are wrong ONCE AGAIN.... well wrong most (if not all) of the time.

Your response will not be read as you cannot find a credible source to backup the crap you talk about. I am not wasting my time replying to you. Goodbye.

You can't follow an argument so now you're flouncing off as usual! Go drone about how much money you pay in tax to someone who cares sweetie.