Dear Missy Bissy :D

[Chopin.FF]

Hi Everyone :)

If you want to ask me anything just post a new thread for me, I can't promise to give you the answer to all your questions. But I'll BE HAPPY to try :)

:$ dear Missy :$ i have a question :$... Why is the Human always in war? :$

[MissAlice]

Hello Chopin :)

What is the good of War? Most wars are fought over religion, you can correct me if I'm wrong ;)

[Chopin.FF]

Well :$ this same question was asked by "Albert Einstein" to the creator of the psychoanalysis "Sigmund Freud" :$ and the last one andwered that the Human since the begining of history :$ has had the necesity of power :$ but the ways to obtain this power can be any ways, so he said that the man used the violence to obtain this power :$.

I agree with Freud :$, lets analyze this in any civilization, for example:
Rome - Caesars
Egypt - Pharaohs

Even the socialism like in Cuba has a leader (Fidel Castro).
Now you can say, i am pacifist, i would never obtain something with the war, but lets put this example, what if you are the president of a country and suddenly another country attacks you!! :$ Well somehow u gotta defend yourself :o you can't just let them die, and the most easy answer to this, its almost always the war :$.

In the religious point of view like you say, well, even religions have their leaders, and for example when the Spanishs conquered Mexico, they used violence and lots of ways, and now the principal religion in Mexico is the Catholic one, Mayans used to be politeists, now they have one god, or they just dont believe in something, but you rarely will see a decendent of the Mayans who still prays to Chac (God of the Rain). :$

That is my opinion of "Why is the Human always in war?" :$ Because of the need of power, and to obtain this, they use violence :$.

What do you think? :)

[Kroziun]

Our Creator has more power than any human will ever have. He tells us what we should do to benefit ourselves and how to worship him. One of his key principles is that you should not kill. In fact his son commanded that everyone wishing to lead a good life should be pro-active and to love even our enemies - something our enemies are incapable of.

If we are to obey our God, and leave vengeance to him, and to have faith in everything he tells us, then perhaps a human power struggle is quite insignificant.

After all, sad to say, a lot of righteous people lost their lives in Hitler's concentration camps simply because they refused to pick up a weapon. Before they were executed each had the opportunity to sign a paper, be released, and join the army.

Each righteous person who kept their integrity to God is promised a resurrection by him to eternal life here on earth in the future in paradise.

Eternity in perfection or fleeting world domination... I'll choose the side of the meek every time.

But to answer your original question, Why are humans always at war? God tells us through his word the Bible very simply, that the ruler of this world is Satan. (John 12:31 & 16:11) That he is misleading the entire inhabited earth. (Revelation 12:9) It's Satan's doing simply put.

But not for much longer. He (Satan) knows his time is short, and thus conditions are getting worse in our time. Soon Satan will be abyssed and there will be no more war.

:)

[Chopin.FF]

Well yea, but all that is according to catholic religion, what if you are not catholic? what if ur budist? or u dont believe in anything? :$ what i mean is The human as Human not as what "Jesus" told us to do by the command of the "Father, God and Holy Ghost" :$

[Kroziun]

No, I am most definately not Catholic. I do not wish to insult any Catholics, indeed my father was raised as a Catholic, but as the Jewish religious leaders of Jesus' day did, many so-called Christian religious leaders have, by their traditions, made the word of God invalid. One such tradition is in fact that of the Trinity that you mention in your post - something not in the Bible at all. A man-made tradition.

God tells us to worship him in spirit and in truth. How can we do that if we have our ears 'tickled' by Priests and such? When we only hear what we like to hear? It is not easy to worship God - it is a way of life and not just a Sunday morning thing.

I understand what you mean regarding people's beliefs and disbelief in God, however he (God) has made it quite clear what has happened, what is happening, and will happen in our immediate future. All anyone has to do is study what his word contains, for yourself and no-one else. I myself did not believe in God before I decided to look into the Bible. Now I am not the person I used to be, thankfully. Such is the power of his word. Of course I am in a minority - there are many things a person has to overcome to believe. Pride, Stubborness, Peer-pressure, Ingrained beliefs, and much more. However I have found that there is not a single thing in the Bible that can be disproved, and science inevitably in time proves right what was written in that book thousands of years ago by our maker.

If someone decides not to change their ways, not to even investigate, then that is their choice. No one is going to force them.

Reminds me of a saying: Ignorance is Bliss.

[Chopin.FF]

Well yea, i really admire ur knowledge in the field (knowledge is power), but well, what i mean with the question is "Why is the Human always in war?" appart from god, appart from what he tells us, appart from religion, the human as human, what in the nature of the human being make us have war?

Like for example when someone annoys u at school, and you just wanna hit him, you dont think in what god told you to do, you dont involve religion, so using that point of view, "why is the human being in constant war?"

[StripedTiger]

i think ill stay out of this conversation :l
*shuffles off*

[Chopin.FF]

lmao give it a try aquae :D all answers are welcome :D come on come on :D aquaee aaquaaee!! weee xD
give us ur opinion :D

[StripedTiger]

my opinion?

i think your all nutters :P

and people have wars cos alot of them are stupid, selfish and self-centred ty :)

[nvrspk4]

People are always in war because people are never satisfied with their positions. They view conquest as the way to acquire this additional power. Also, they feel a need to prove themselves more powerful than their peers and dominance in war is one way to express that. That's what I came up with in 30 seconds atleast so the answer may not be the best or most accurate, thoughtful, or though provoking, but its an idea ;)

[Kroziun]

I can answer why humans without beliefs do this, but to be thoroughly honest:

1. It should be in a different forum. Poor MissAlice.
2. It can be difficult to explain in words written, as written words can be interpreted the wrong way.
3. I am terribly busy IRL and on other sites!

:D

[MissAlice]

Thanks Kroziun I agree :)

If I wanted to discuss this topic I would have posted in the relevant forum.

However I do feel Kroziun and nvrspk4 have perhaps gone some way in trying to answer you Chopin.FF

Alice :)