Who should win the next General Election? [ENDS 07/02/2010]

Who should win the next General Election?

Ends 08 / 02 / 2010

The next General Election in the UK is due to take place on or before 3rd June 2010. The three main parties in this election are Labour, the Conservative Party and the Liberal Democrats. There are also a selection of other parties who will be involved, for more information on these click here. Each party offer a different manifesto that will change the way our country is run in a variety of different ways.

The question is, who do you think should win the next general election (and why?)

NOTE: Who you THINK will win is irrelevant, it's who you think SHOULD win.

Well to start this one off, I think there's who I think should win the next general election and who will win the next general election.

In my personal opinion I'm sticking with Labour, simply because none of the other parties interest me. Although Labour may have its' faults, it's not just supportive of middle class and higher.

Conservatives will win the next election although I don't think David Cameron is the right man for the job.

:).

Like Ardemax said, who I want to win the next election and who I think will win the election are different parties.

Labour is who I will be voting for because I simply don't view them as being as bad as they are made out to be. The Conservatives will be worse for the lower classes and for that reason I dread the day David Cameron becomes PM because the way I see it the majority of people will vote Conservative because of how Labour have been portrayed recently. It's not right and David Cameron is possibly the worst image of this country I can think of but nevertheless I don't see any other outcome. I certainly won't be wasting my vote though, Labour will get it in the hope of a miracle.

I'm pretty much going to agree with the two previous posts in this thread. As much as I don't want it to happen it is very likely that the Tories will come into power, come Summer. Labour and Gordon Brown aren't stupid, they know they've made mistakes and if they're re-elected I imagine that they'd get a new leader who will revitalise Labour and act as a breath of fresh air throughout the party. I don't think Gordon Brown has done a bad job, unfortunately I just think his image has been unfairly tarnished and he won't be able to rectify this in the eyes of the public.

I know this isn't the best way of looking at it but I believe that Labour should win because for as long as I've been actively concious of politics, they've been in charge and I haven't had a bad life. I've had decent education, health care, travel, opportunities and when things haven't been great within my family their policies have made sure we've been OK. For example, when my parents split, my Mum took half of what the house was worth when they moved in, she could've taken half of the current value which would've been considerably more but she didn't want us to struggle. We had council accommodation, free school meals and I'm sure my Dad got all sort of financial aid. Sure, the Tories and other parties might do this but I can imagine them making it a lot harder, which will affect families who do need help, it won't just stop the cheats but hinder families who are struggling.

I live with the mentality don't fix what isn't broken, why change when just by living in this country we're given a life and opportunities that the majority of the world aren't. People would do well to remember that.

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Originally Posted by Immenseman

I'm pretty much going to agree with the two previous posts in this thread. As much as I don't want it to happen it is very likely that the Tories will come into power, come Summer. Labour and Gordon Brown aren't stupid, they know they've made mistakes and if they're re-elected I imagine that they'd get a new leader who will revitalise Labour and act as a breath of fresh air throughout the party. I don't think Gordon Brown has done a bad job, unfortunately I just think his image has been unfairly tarnished and he won't be able to rectify this in the eyes of the public.

I know this isn't the best way of looking at it but I believe that Labour should win because for as long as I've been actively concious of politics, they've been in charge and I haven't had a bad life. I've had decent education, health care, travel, opportunities and when things haven't been great within my family their policies have made sure we've been OK. For example, when my parents split, my Mum took half of what the house was worth when they moved in, she could've taken half of the current value which would've been considerably more but she didn't want us to struggle. We had council accommodation, free school meals and I'm sure my Dad got all sort of financial aid. Sure, the Tories and other parties might do this but I can imagine them making it a lot harder, which will affect families who do need help, it won't just stop the cheats but hinder families who are struggling.

I live with the mentality don't fix what isn't broken, why change when just by living in this country we're given a life and opportunities that the majority of the world aren't. People would do well to remember that.

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I fully agree with Jake on the fact that for the past thirteen years Labour have done me no harm, and people may say "well they've killed X amount of people by sending soldiers to Iraq", so you're telling me Michael Howard wouldn't have done the same if he was in power? Whoever had been elected in 1997, things like Iraq would have still happened, if the Tories had been elected then there would be so much less for the lower classes.

It can't be forgotten that the Conservative Party are very much pro-middle/upper class.

I saw someone make one of those silly David Cameron posters but it said "I'll cut taxes, but probably not yours".

I agree with Jake, we shouldn't fix what isnt broken. Labour haven't given us a bad life over the past 13 years.

Before people start blaming Labour for the Recession or MP expenses:

Recession: The economy goes up, the economy goes down, it fluctuates and a recession has been due for quite a while and it was world wide and nobody's fault.

MP Expenses row was not Labour's fault either, the original PM expenses "rule" (or lack of them) came from Parliamentary doctrine from years ago, so not really Labours fault.

I feel that many silly people will fail to vote labour because of those two reasons alone, which is stupid really because they were things out of Labour's control.

I will be voting Labour however I disagree with the others, following David Cameron's recent policy reversals I think he has lost a lot of fans.

The Conservatives have the potential to win the next election, however I don't think David Cameron is the man that will make it happen, he's too much of a controversial figure and I think this may harm the Tories popularity.

I want UKIP to win the next General Election. :)

Edited by Nicola (Forum Moderator): Please back up your answers. Debate forum rules - http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=617161

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Originally Posted by Immenseman

I'm pretty much going to agree with the two previous posts in this thread. As much as I don't want it to happen it is very likely that the Tories will come into power, come Summer. Labour and Gordon Brown aren't stupid, they know they've made mistakes and if they're re-elected I imagine that they'd get a new leader who will revitalise Labour and act as a breath of fresh air throughout the party. I don't think Gordon Brown has done a bad job, unfortunately I just think his image has been unfairly tarnished and he won't be able to rectify this in the eyes of the public.

I know this isn't the best way of looking at it but I believe that Labour should win because for as long as I've been actively concious of politics, they've been in charge and I haven't had a bad life. I've had decent education, health care, travel, opportunities and when things haven't been great within my family their policies have made sure we've been OK. For example, when my parents split, my Mum took half of what the house was worth when they moved in, she could've taken half of the current value which would've been considerably more but she didn't want us to struggle. We had council accommodation, free school meals and I'm sure my Dad got all sort of financial aid. Sure, the Tories and other parties might do this but I can imagine them making it a lot harder, which will affect families who do need help, it won't just stop the cheats but hinder families who are struggling.

I live with the mentality don't fix what isn't broken, why change when just by living in this country we're given a life and opportunities that the majority of the world aren't. People would do well to remember that.

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The problem is, it is broken.

We are heading for another 1979 whether or not the left want to accept this, money does not fall from the sky and theres an end to everything. The Labour Party has never been for the working classes, only for itself just like all other left-wing parties in history.

Labour have taken us into an illegal war which has killed over one million innocent people, Labour has made schools 'better' by making exams easier, Labour has thrown millions at the NHS which has just gone to waste through hospital building scandel. Labour has allowed thousands of criminals on the streets to re-offend. Labour has signed away more and more powers to the European Union year on year. Labour went back on a promise to hold a referendum on European reformal. Labour has destroyed more and more of our civil liberties in the name of the 'war on terror'. Labour has no control over our borders. Labour continues year on year to give away billions to useless causes/other countries. Labour has put taxes futher and futher up year by year. Labour has introduced 'equality' laws which mean people get jobs not because of their ability, but based their race, sexuality or disability. Labour sold billions worth of gold reserves for a measley price when gaining office. Labour have introduced thouands and thousands of pages worth of legislation every year since gaining office punishing the victim, not the offender. Labour have hired hundreds of thousands, if not millions more public-sector workers to introduce more red-tape on the people of this country.

They are the most utterly corrupt and out of touch group of people in this country, they cannot answer a simple question, do not represent what the man on the street wants or desires and they couldn't run a sweet job if they tried. Look at it this way, if this country was a business; it would of closed a long time ago.

The Conservatives, historically have saved the country time and time again most notably when gaining office in 1979 which saw the United Kingdom go from a poor and declining state into a modern great power from the fallout from WW2 and the disbanding of the Empire. While i'd like to wish and hope that David Cameron can do the same was Thatcher did, I can't see it. He is truly the heir to Blair, we are only voting in Blu Labour instead of New Labour.

Who should win? - UKIP or a party which represents real Conservatism, for the individual and not the state. The difference between left and right is the state or the individual in a nutshell.

Should our country surrender more and more powers to the unelected European Union?

Should our country hand over billions and billions to other countries, useless causes and the EU every year?

Should this country refuse to hold referendums on issues such as the European Union/death penalty and the out-of-touch MPs decide on our behalf?

Should this country continue rewarding layabouts and punish hard workers via tax rises?

Should this country continue to have open borders which allow anyone to enter this country?

Should this country continue to allow our government to surrender our civil liberties in the name of security?

Should this country continue to splash out when it cannot afford it?

Should this country benefit people based on their race, sexuality or status rather than reward people based on hard work only?

If the answer is yes to these, then vote Lib/Lab/Con.
If the answer you find is no to these, then vote UKIP.

The sad fact is that until we have voting reform then parties such as UKIP and others will struggle to gain any seats at all, but given the choice between the Conservatives, Labour and the Liberal Democrats i'd rather not vote. I found a great poll tool which shows who you genuinely support/agree with; http://www.takethequiz.co.uk/

Answer the questions how you feel, not what you think your party you support now feels.

I got;

Labour 22%

Conservative 51%

Greens 30%

LibDem 22%

UKIP 95%

I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a few BNP seats you know....

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Originally Posted by Technologic

I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a few BNP seats you know....

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Me neither, although the system to get a seat in Parliament is a lot harder than getting a seat in European Parliament, but I'm pretty sure we could be seeing one or two seats going to those Nazis. That's all we need, Nick Griffin an MP.

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Originally Posted by invincible

Me neither, although the system to get a seat in Parliament is a lot harder than getting a seat in European Parliament, but I'm pretty sure we could be seeing one or two seats going to those Nazis. That's all we need, Nick Griffin an MP.

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Although i'm sure Mr Griffin would want to raise important issues such as the EU, death penalty and immigration whereas the socialists in that chamber at the moment avoid discussing at all costs. In other words, do what he was elected to do.