Woman to be stoned to death in Iran for adultery

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Iran is facing an international outcry after a mother was convicted of adultery and sentenced to death by stoning.
British politicians are lending their support to efforts to save the life of 43-year-old Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani.
Foreign Minister William Hague has called on the Iranian government prevent the stoning.
The call has already been endorsed by congressmen, diplomats, and rights activists on both sides of the Atlantic.
In May 2006, a court in the northern city of Tabriz convicted Ashtiani of having an 'illicit relationship' with two men and sentenced her to 99 lashes.
Later that year, the mother-of-two was accused of murdering her husband. Those charges were dropped, but a panel of judges re-opened the inquiry into adultery charges.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...#ixzz0t8Kb9jgN

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Terrible... this is the 21st century not medieval times. The European Court of Human Rights should move to Iran where real human rights are needed for these people, instead of protecting extremists and criminals...

What do you lot think about this?

Strange, I have just finished watching the film Agora which contains a bit of stoning.

It's not the first time either, they stoned a 17 year old girl because she changed religion to marry somebody.

I love how they say Islam is a peaceful religion.

I see that yet again the British government is interferring with the internal workings of another sovereign nation (Iran as per usual) but refrains often from commenting or risking upsetting the Peoples Republic of China whom also have a terrible human rights record. I hate this big boy bully stance we seem to take as the western world - we'll pressure/call the weaker nations a whole manner of names (sometimes even invade them!) but will not dare speak out again the likes of China.

The icing on the cake for me though has always been when we call nations such as Iran and Zimbabwe 'undemocratic' - that really takes the biscuit.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

I see that yet again the British government is interferring with the internal workings of another sovereign nation (Iran as per usual) but refrains often from commenting or risking upsetting the Peoples Republic of China whom also have a terrible human rights record. I hate this big boy bully stance we seem to take as the western world - we'll pressure/call the weaker nations a whole manner of names (sometimes even invade them!) but will not dare speak out again the likes of China.

The icing on the cake for me though has always been when we call nations such as Iran and Zimbabwe 'undemocratic' - that really takes the biscuit.

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I think that's because we consider China to be a peaceful country (when really they have the highest death sentence - which is more than the world combined) whereas Iran we seam to always be against them sort of countries.

In China you can get executed for tax fraud - but by lethal injection. Stoning would take about 30 mins and I can imagine very painful.

http://www.channel4.com/news/article...erapos/3703682

Just so yknoow theyre not.

She's still on death sentence for "crime against God". It's still terrible!

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

...but refrains often from commenting or risking upsetting the Peoples Republic of China whom also have a terrible human rights...I hate this big boy bully stance we seem to take as the western world - we'll pressure/call the weaker nations a whole manner of names (sometimes even invade them!) but will not dare speak out again the likes of China.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8433285.stm Sure, the West don't stand up to China on these sort of things :rolleyes:

I personally think the Western World DO have the right in involving itself in these sort of things. The West in my opinion, have a duty to the world to bring these evil, backwards administrations to a more liberal society. Whats worse, is there is reportably no proof she even cheated on her husband, but who cares? Shes a woman right? And we all know what the discriminatry men who rule these backwards countries think of women...not alot is the answer to that. On top of this, she has already recived almost 100 lashes! (I actually agree in corporal punishment, but obviously not for the 'crime' of adultery)

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Originally Posted by Frodo13.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8433285.stm Sure, the West don't stand up to China on these sort of things :rolleyes:

I personally think the Western World DO have the right in involving itself in these sort of things. The West in my opinion, have a duty to the world to bring these evil, backwards administrations to a more liberal society. Whats worse, is there is reportably no proof she even cheated on her husband, but who cares? Shes a woman right? And we all know what the discriminatry men who rule these backwards countries think of women...not alot is the answer to that. On top of this, she has already recived almost 100 lashes! (I actually agree in corporal punishment, but obviously not for the 'crime' of adultery)

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The west I am afraid do not stand upto China and others in the same way as they bully the likes of Iran, Zimbabwe, Iraq and others. We often spout a number of angry words but we know aswell as the Chinese that its nothing but a public relations stunt in the opera of world politics.

The western world did once attempt to bring countries known today such as Iraq, India, Pakistan and a lot of Africa into the modern world but was eventually kicked out and we can now see today how many of them such as South Africa are actually going backwards in terms of development. More so today, the issue of another country and its internal affairs have little to do with the western world - either these countries are independent or they are not, in which case the disbanding of Empire was pretty much pointless and only to our loss.

I very much doubt we would like people interferring with our internal affairs (well it still happens sadly) so I object in the modern world to that occuring with this country and other nations. Either we can treat all of these regimes the same and apply the same sanctions across the board (yes that includes the PROC) or we can leave internal relations to those countries themselves.

If you are going to treat one bad guy different from another one just because he's weaker and smaller, its nothing but political bullying.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

The west I am afraid do not stand upto China and others in the same way as they bully the likes of Iran, Zimbabwe, Iraq and others. We often spout a number of angry words but we know aswell as the Chinese that its nothing but a public relations stunt in the opera of world politics.

The western world did once attempt to bring countries known today such as Iraq, India, Pakistan and a lot of Africa into the modern world but was eventually kicked out and we can now see today how many of them such as South Africa are actually going backwards in terms of development. More so today, the issue of another country and its internal affairs have little to do with the western world - either these countries are independent or they are not, in which case the disbanding of Empire was pretty much pointless and only to our loss.

I very much doubt we would like people interferring with our internal affairs (well it still happens sadly) so I object in the modern world to that occuring with this country and other nations. Either we can treat all of these regimes the same and apply the same sanctions across the board (yes that includes the PROC) or we can leave internal relations to those countries themselves.

If you are going to treat one bad guy different from another one just because he's weaker and smaller, its nothing but political bullying.

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Again, your getting confussed. When I say 'get involved', this in no way mean 'invade', which I presume is what you thought I meant when you mention the Empire. The truth is, when countries like Iran, and Zimbabwe and Iraq do the terrible things that they do/did, there is no way the world can live in peace, which in my opinion, it deserves to do so, and it is, as I have just previously mentioned, down to the influencing countries such as the USA, and UK to intervene.

And on China, what Moh said just in the thread, China don't, at the moment or at least in public, seem to be a threat to us, where Iran does.

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Originally Posted by Frodo13.

Again, your getting confussed. When I say 'get involved', this in no way mean 'invade', which I presume is what you thought I meant when you mention the Empire. The truth is, when countries like Iran, and Zimbabwe and Iraq do the terrible things that they do/did, there is no way the world can live in peace, which in my opinion, it deserves to do so, and it is, as I have just previously mentioned, down to the influencing countries such as the USA, and UK to intervene.

And on China, what Moh said just in the thread, China don't, at the moment or in public, seem to be a threat to us, where Iran does.

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The trouble is that unless you do propose invading these nations then theres not much you can do. Yes you can shout and scream about Robert Mugabe, Hu Jintao and the rest of the rabble - but unless you invade these countries and bring back Empire then its all just a complete and utter waste of time that belongs in the theatre. The issue of sanctions and so forth are also a dead beat issue because sanctions only effect the people of them nations, not the ruling group.

If nobody is going to do anything then lets at least admit that rather than pretend that somehow these people give a damn about our politicians words, as I said before we are morally bankrupt ourselves in terms of democracy so even our leaders words ring hollow to our own people let along the despots in these nations. The west is not only morally bankrupt but also economically bankrupt so I very much doubt Empire would be reasonable again - let along the fact that Empire is in the past now and its revival exists only in nationalist fairytales.

Terrible things go on, but they made their choice when they ended Empire - leave them to it, they will develop on their own accord.

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Originally Posted by Frodo13.

And on China, what Moh said just in the thread, China don't, at the moment or at least in public, seem to be a threat to us, where Iran does.

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Iran is no threat to the United Kingdom or the United States, China on the other hands owns an awful lot of our debt and has hundreds of nuclear missiles capabile of reaching Liverpool, London, Bristol, Washington, New England and so forth. The idea that Iran is a threat to the west is as true as the 45 minute 'threat' from Saddam Hussein and the Ba'ath regime was - in other words, it doesnt exist. The reason why Iran is drummed up to be a big issue is because it wants to acquire nuclear weapons due to the fact that Israel has hundreds of the things pointing at Iran itself.

If I were Iran I would also acquire nuclear weapons, and with good reason to.