Welcome to Britain! Keith Vaz MP and Mark Reckless MP greet first arrivals

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ns-lifted.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...t-workers.html

Welcome to Britain! Labour MP Keith Vaz greets new arrivals on first flight from Romania (and even bought some a coffee) as doors open to more EU migrant workers today

- Labour MP even bought some a coffee to find out why they are here
- Romanian Victor Spiresau told him he would send his cash back home
- 'I don't come to rob your country. I work and then go home,' he said
- Mr Vaz says Britain should hold referendum on number of EU migrants
- Companies advertise 5,000 jobs to recruit Romanian workers
- Adverts promise cash daily and say command of English 'unnecessary'
- Today 4,896 jobs advertised in England, but less than 150 in rest of Britain

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/...35_634x520.jpg
Tory MP Mark Reckless and Labour MP Keith Vaz welcome new arrivals.

Full article is via links.

You know, I didn't think politicians could shock me anymore but then I saw this and it made my blood boil. I'm so angry - as are the comments on the article. Here you have a pair of dimwitted clowns WELCOMING people into this country who are essentially taking up the jobs that British people should and could be doing if they actually had the chance. Nobody blames the migrants themselves, i'm sure they're lovely people - but when you have unemployment and youth unemployment figures that we have, it's simply not on that jobs are practically being outsourced to foreign workers at the detriment of British workers.

Don't give me that 'Brits dont want to do the jobs' because who were picking the crops back before 2004 when the borders opened to Eastern Europe? British workers were. How can Britons with family be expected to compete for same wage rates as Romanians and Bulgarians who will sleep 12 to a slum of a house and have no bills to pay unlike Britons? Truth is, they can't. What happened to the Gordon Brown 'British jobs for British workers' pledge?

Maybe Mr Vaz and Mr Reckless should go for a coffee to the local job centre and speak to young Britons who can't get jobs because of the madness of open borders. Or plumbers and brickies who have been put out of work by Eastern Europeans who flooded the job market and collapsed wage rates. Unbelievable, they're basically laughing in our faces.

Thoughts?

If you're willing to work you're willing to work. No-one's taking any jobs away, they're just being given to those who will do them for the least cost to the company as with all jobs ever and the entire basis of capitalism

Nice of the Daily Mail (And you) to only mention the Labour MP in their headline. Real impartial reporting right there.

They also managed to mention all 3 romanians who do not already live in the UK.

You mean there's more people willing to work harder for less than current unemployed British people? Shock horror.

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Originally Posted by FlyingJesus

If you're willing to work you're willing to work. No-one's taking any jobs away, they're just being given to those who will do them for the least cost to the company as with all jobs ever and the entire basis of capitalism

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That's true - if we lived in a real single market with the same welfare, regulations and wages then that would be a valid point. But it's not a level playing field is it, for the reasons I mentioned above with wages being depressed whilst inflation goes up and up and up. It makes perfect sense for a Eastern European to work for very low wages for the simple reason that in their country, £5 goes a long way. But for a Briton with low educational skills? How can they compete? They can't.

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Originally Posted by Chippiewill

Nice of the Daily Mail (And you) to only mention the Labour MP in their headline. Real impartial reporting right there.

They also managed to mention all 3 romanians who do not already live in the UK.

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Err I inserted the name of the Tory MP Mark Reckless into the thread title? And why? ..because, although the Mail likes to pretend otherwise, the Tories are just as bad as Labour when it comes to this issue. I attack them both equally on this issue as I do with any other. Hence why I included the picture with both the Tory and Labour MP in rather than just the one of Keith Vaz in his own.

If MigrationWatch turn out to be right though in their estimates of 50,000 a year, the Tory Party is even more toasted than it already is.

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Originally Posted by Ardemax

You mean there's more people willing to work harder for less than current unemployed British people? Shock horror.

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Uh because being single men all living 12 to a slum house they can? Do you get that? Can you comprehend that?

Besides, weren't you one of the ones a few months ago arguing with me over the minimum wage? How strange that all those who argued in favour of the minimum wage against me now seem to think that it's a good thing to have people working on ever lower wages due to mass migration. What an illogical position, assuming that's the one you hold.

That's nice of him :)

Where are you getting "ever lower wage" from when we have a legal minimum that rises with inflation?

You're moaning because some MPs welcomed the 3 people on that flight that have come over because of the restrictions being lifted?

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Originally Posted by FlyingJesus

Where are you getting "ever lower wage" from when we have a legal minimum that rises with inflation?

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If you really think the official inflation rate is anything near what real inflation is running at then you're out of your mind. The Bank of England have printed £300bn+ over the past few years, food prices and fuel continue to rise yet you're now telling me that it's all okay because the minimum wage (which can be ignored by employers employing foreigners ANYWAY) rises with inflation.

And even if the minimum wage was enforced and the picture you paint is true, then that still doesn't gloss over the fact that it makes economic sense for a migrant from a very poor country to work for that wage but not an unskiled Brit for reasons explained previously.

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Originally Posted by Kardan

You're moaning because some MPs welcomed the 3 people on that flight that have come over because of the restrictions being lifted?

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It's the symbolism yeah, public opinion has been completely ignored with this and yet we have these two clowns at an airport on a media jolly rubbing our faces in it. The contempt they have for the electorate is sickening.

As I said earlier, maybe they should go to a job centre and meet the people put out of work by mass migration and buy them a coffee instead.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

If you really think the official inflation rate is anything near what real inflation is running at then you're out of your mind. The Bank of England have printed £300bn+ over the past few years, food prices and fuel continue to rise yet you're now telling me that it's all okay because the minimum wage (which can be ignored by employers employing foreigners ANYWAY) rises with inflation.

And even if the minimum wage was enforced and the picture you paint is true, then that still doesn't gloss over the fact that it makes economic sense for a migrant from a very poor country to work for that wage but not an unskiled Brit for reasons explained previously.



It's the symbolism yeah, public opinion has been completely ignored with this and yet we have these two clowns at an airport on a media jolly rubbing our faces in it. The contempt they have for the electorate is sickening.

As I said earlier, maybe they should go to a job centre and meet the people put out of work by mass migration and buy them a coffee instead.

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Ah, so MPs can only buy coffee for people that the public think are worthy? :P