Australia agrees £20bn Deal with Britain to buy UK-built warships
Deal worth £20bn as Australia looks to buy 9 warships for the Royal Australian Navy
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Ensigns of the Royal Australian Navy and the Royal Navy
Great news.
The fuck does Australia want warships for there isn't anyone near them
While it's good that a UK design is being exported and good for BAE systems, they are being built in Australia (which makes sense). So the title is a bit misleading.
hang on just a darn minute not that long ago you berated me even mentioning benefits to uk defence contractors when I said I'd support a small EU army to support smaller states and blah blah do I care about anything more than money, yet that would have actually seen economic activity in this country and would have contributed more to the overall system, providing more jobs to uk workers and overall helping those areas and yet I'm the one who doesn't give a shit
most of this money won't even see it to the uk since it will get eaten up by shareholders, and given the uk sold it it's 51.57% state in british aerospace (retaining a £1 golden share, thanks maggie) we won't even make much, if any and that we do make will be pissed away
So I was right to berate you then wasn't I? Because to *still* suggest the abolition of Britain's armed forces and their merger into a European army controlled by a foreign government to me and most other people is unpalatable. Absolutely unthinkable, and the fact you're still seemingly suggesting it in spite of all that has happened in regards to the public's view on European integration again shows you've not reconciled yourself to public opinion on European federalism. It's just not going to happen, it's a pipe dream.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbgtz
That's not to say I don't welcome investment. I'm very happy we're making warships for the Royal Australian Navy.
you've just put words into my mouthQuote:
Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
in my hypothetical situation, it was never about abolishing larger, self sufficient militaries but assisting in smaller ones in smaller states
stop strawmanning me
they're not being bloody made in this country thats my bloody pointQuote:
That's not to say I don't welcome investment. I'm very happy we're making warships for the Royal Australian Navy.
the jobs are not here
the money is not here
Isn't that called NATO?Quote:
Originally Posted by dbgtz
not reallyQuote:
Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
even if it was it wouldn't hurt for pretty much every country to be less reliant on the US
Your argument makes no sense. You want to be less reliant on America... to be reliant on Europe.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbgtz
How about being self-reliant like we have been since 1066?
No I've repeatedly said this hypothetical "army" wouldn't be for larger statesQuote:
Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
that makes it sound like we fought every war independently and never had to rely on anyone for anythingQuote:
How about being self-reliant like we have been since 1066?