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They should make an INet. With Internet included :)
My point seems to have gone amiss with you. For what you get for an iPod, you can get better with another company for cheaper. Better software, like Sony, better designed headphones e.g. Sony, Creative etc, better hardware, better dynamic design.Quote:
Originally Posted by BL!NKEY
Better software = Not prone to crashing and plays the music like you expect to here from speakers. Most companies also come with something called "Smart Volume," which basically sorts out a song when you are listening to it loudly, getting rid of disdortion. Apple never thought of this and don't use it, which is another reason the sound quality is, terrible.
Better designed headphones = Get your iPod now and have a look at the headphones. Look at the bit which stays outside when you have it in. Notice there are no holes outside. This is one reason the sound quality is yet again useless. Speakers need to breathe, iPod don't give their speakers the chance to. Look at a subwoofer and you'll notice you get hit by alot of air, this is all thanks to the speaker being allow to breathe and can do so quite happily until it is blocked, which will reduce the quality.
Better hardware = One that isn't prone to crashing every now and again. Apple seem to not know what bug testing is. If they did this, maybe their products wouldn't be so prone to dying. Through my experiences with them, they sometimes descide not to turn off when the play/pause button is pressed, don't do anything and just lock or half work and half not.
Dynamic design = Style etc come down in this. iPod seem to design their iPods as squares or rectangles that don't slide into pockets so well. The Nano's surface is awful. Normally something that is pocket sized would be made out of something that isn't rough, but smooth.
So in the end, when you buy an iPod, you are paying only about £10-£15 more, but when you think of everything together with all the problems iPods have, you are preobably being ripped off at about £50 considering they still need to conquer music. They seem to have conquered marketing sales quite well though, I give them 8/10 for that.
I wouldn't say the iPod are built for sound? The design is wrong, as stated above. Obviously they were built for sound, but looking at them and sometimes using them, they're inferior to most headphones which are obviously better at their job than iPods.Quote:
Originally Posted by BL!NKEY
Would be a good idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by BL!NKEY
There is lol its on the video.Quote:
Originally Posted by GommeInc
Id say ipods have the most usable interface and are the most well supported but they are largely overpriced.
The only thing I was explaining in my reasoning was that websites are viewed entirely, zooming in or not. Pointing out that websites aren't viewed by means of zooming in on a regular browser is just being pedantic to have a response. "/Quote:
Originally Posted by 01101101entor
The phone also has integrated wifi, so it automatically switches to a wireless network when available, to provide for faster data transfer as opposed to the phone network speed, so its not as if its really a low-bandwith device all the time. 3G is also said to be on the roadmap later on. Since most of people's media will already be on the phone, it wasn't seen as a neccesary component of the phone, although it is nice to have.
Not really. You made a list consisting of your opinion about the iPhone's capabilities and downsides. My original suggestion was that you find how the iPhone's features function since you're just arguing on assumptions about its capabilities, one of them being that you assumed the browser had no zooming capabilites and text would be very hard to read.Quote:
And i explained it to you.
Thats the consumer PC installed base pecent. You specifically said the worldwide MP3 market share. Later on in the article, a graph was shown with these statistics for the year 2004-05.Quote:
I quoth:Quote:
Apple Insider
It estimates Apple's current iPod worldwide penetration rate of the consumer PC installed base to be a mere 10.3 percent, assuming only one iPod is tied to each personal computer. With nearly 90 percent of potential market share remaining and Apple's defensible competitive position, the firm believes the iPod will eventually surpass Sony's magical sales mark of 309 million Walkman and Discman players by the year 2009.
http://images.appleinsider.com/cs-05-23-06-2.gif
The 10 percent you mentioned is number of iPod owners on the consumer PC installed base of 387 million, not the worldwide mp3 market share.
The argument was valid, but it was also pointless, is what I'm trying to say. I did not explain myself clearly, but the statement was not one that needed an argument.Quote:
o.0 no its a perfectly valid arguemnt deductive reasoning
Itunes = desktop software
Ipod = portable mp3 playing device.
Thefore Ipods do not run on Itunes .
In that case, your previous statement was really vague. I was talking about people being familiar with how an iPod works so using an iPhone will deliver the same user-friendly experience, which is what I was talking about when I mentioned Apple's marketing strategy- advertising devices that work with little knowledge of how the device itself works. (Although I admit that their mac commercials tend to stretch the truth or exaggerate in some cases)Quote:
No i mean the sort of crap like the "apple are immune to all virus's" (an outright lie and makeing consumers ignorant of common sence safty practises.)
You said, "Plus i tend to buy better things, not one im familur with."Quote:
Vista is superior to OSX
XP is Superior to OSX
vender freedom on hardware is supeior to vender locking as with mac's
How the hell can you deduce if i choose the supeior product that id want a mac?
Obviously, you're not familiar with Mac OS X, or using it is not something you'd normally do. However, you are familiar with Windows XP, which would be eliminated as an option because you're already familiar with it. I'm not about to argue about which operating system is superior to which, so I'll let a website do it for me. http://www.xvsxp.com/finalscore/index.php
Then let me rephrase myself;Quote:
Go look insight up in a dictonary...
Please provide a list containing all the flaws you have personally encountered while using with the Mac OS X application, Mail. Since I have never used said application, it would only seem logical that I ask you about its flaws since you've used it for more time than I have, and in result, have acquired knowledge of flaws it posseses through first-hand experience.
The reason the mobile industry has never actually used this technology is because most devices with tactile interfaces are usually operated via stylus, and it would be illogical to have multi-touch on an device that only allows for one touch command at a time. However, because the iPhone uses human touch as the input interface, being able to do several things on the screen simultaneously (such as zooming in on a picture by making a reverse pinching motion on the screen) is one of the things that separates the iPhone from a normal stylus PDA.Quote:
Most devices this far havent really had any want nore need to incorpate a multiple-touch touchscreen. Since in normal circumstances its not really seen as very useful. For exsample it would be like windows haveing two mouse pointers (although this infact could have a possible use, and has a product for it, so is really only here as a persudo exsample, and does still apply to portable devices)
Since most pdas etc have taken there design from computer based interaction.
So apple is trying somthing pretty new here, for better or worse, in the way it intends people to navigate it "/
I took your advice and my headphones do have holes on the outside.Quote:
Originally Posted by GommeInc
http://www.empiredirect.co.uk/images...P/M9128G-A.jpg
I didnt take a picture but here is one i found on the web. They came with my 15 gb touch wheel iPod which I still have and works.
Ok once while you were driving your friend couldnt turn off his iPod and you dont even remember what button he was pressing. That does not mean that every iPod crashes and apple has never bug tested them because they frequently come out with softwear updates for iPods.Quote:
Better hardware = One that isn't prone to crashing every now and again. Apple seem to not know what bug testing is. If they did this, maybe their products wouldn't be so prone to dying. Through my experiences with them, they sometimes descide not to turn off when the play/pause button is pressed, don't do anything and just lock or half work and half not.
Most phones are squares or rectangles. Take example the popular motorolla razor. Just because it is square doesnt mean that it has no style. iPods are known for their design and style.Quote:
Dynamic design = Style etc come down in this. iPod seem to design their iPods as squares or rectangles that don't slide into pockets so well. The Nano's surface is awful. Normally something that is pocket sized would be made out of something that isn't rough, but smooth.
Hmmmm, fascinating. It seems Apple have found out the flaw in their headphone design :D I suppose there goes my argument about badly designed headphones. Now they just need to fix their sound quality in the actual media files that get transferred into the iPod.Quote:
Originally Posted by BL!NKEY
I can't exactly pay close attention while driving, and he has played with iPods before so I expect he'll know how to turn one off, so this is kinda irrelevant. All I know is that he was pressing the bottom button on the wheel and the screen kept flashing on and off.Quote:
Originally Posted by BL!NKEY
Be aware that his iPod is only a few weeks old? And you can't exactly upgrade hardware, but software running on hardware. So the iPods amazing system is flawed until they fix it in new versions, which is kinda a bad way to look at things, they should fix the errors before marketing them, not during the sales. Creative mastered this with only one MP3 player and you never need to update your player unless you need to do a system restore on it, which is incredibly rare...
I never said that it had much to do with style as in looks. I meant how it was styled to go into pockets easily. The iPod is blocky and hardly smooth enough to full into a pocket as nicely as a Motorola, Zen or any other phone. Ipods design and style doesn't do anything for me. A circle in the middle of a rectangle is hardly interesting to look at?Quote:
Originally Posted by BL!NKEY
heh, I dont see how it can be a good/bad idea. I would buy one, they are good value for what you get and its awesome
Looks like Apple isnt doing too bad.
They just announced today that they shiped 21 million iPods during the last quarter.
Their net income for the last quarter was over a billion.Quote:
Revenue for the quarter hit a record, reaching $7.1 billion, up 24 percent from $5.7 billion the previous year.
http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/pro...117&ID=6352726
or
http://www.forbes.com/home/markets/2...markets11.html
http://news.com.com/2300-1041_3-6151...tag=ne.gall.pg
Looks like the iPhone has competition :rolleyes: I like the looks of those phones compared to the iPhone. They actually have good names "/
Apple never seem to learn:
Source: http://news.com.com/2300-1041_3-6151...tag=ne.gall.pg
They never learn that stealing doesn't come free. Yet another Apple product with a law suit.Quote:
The phone is the basis of a lawsuit filed by Cisco that charges Apple with infringing on its iPhone trademark. Cisco obtained the trademark in 2000 when it acquired Infogear, a small Redwood City, Calif., start-up that developed consumer devices that allowed people to easily access the Internet without a PC.
I agree with GommeInc about the Ipod design. It really is terrible and is not designed to slide into your pocket or even be comfortable in your pocket unless you buy the tacky shuffles :).