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As far as I'm aware the story of adam and eve says BOTH adam and eve can't eat the fruit so I dunno how this shows disgrimination against woman?Quote:
Originally Posted by 01101101entor
To whats in bold: I think I typed it badly =l I meant as I think Jesus was a real person and he was meant to have said ' I will return as a theif in the night on judgement day' ( something along those lines) I believe this to be true. I don't get why this is a problem?
my mum and dad are both christian, but we don't go to church. so, i don't know what i am. but i like, follow the religion christian.
Im A Proud Athiest, i new i didnt belive in god 6 years ago when i was 12 i managed to work out that 2 people make babys and that would mean adam and eves babys must of done it whitch is wrong according to the bible and i allso noticed there wasnt a colored adam and eve eather so that would mean colored people from space (im mixed race so this isnt racest) so i knew from then on that the bible was a load of bull
Ps: we did evolve from space so everyone is an alian muhahhaha
Im gonna go walk into a church with a white suit on and say im the son of god cos if i do there will be a hell of alot of people beliveing me
Who was made first? Who was woman made for? who was woman made out of?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan2nd
Or did you forget that part "/
Becuse your picking and chooseing which parts of the bible are or are not symbolic storys and which is litral choice without any basis other than what you wish to belive.Quote:
To whats in bold: I think I typed it badly =l I meant as I think Jesus was a real person and he was meant to have said ' I will return as a theif in the night on judgement day' ( something along those lines) I believe this to be true. I don't get why this is a problem?
Jesus himself could equaly be simbolic as opposed to a real figure "/
No where not, your only an alien if you come from someone else, raw materal which resulted in us my be of alien orgine, but us lot were still born over here, so cannot be alien to ourselfs.Quote:
Originally Posted by simon305
That is actually pretty intertesting because there is infact a group of people who think God is an alien from a more advanced raceQuote:
Originally Posted by simon305
edit: (we must have posted the same time)
I still don't think I'm picking anything =l I'm just saying what I think is true and I think Jesus was a real man and yes the Bible was written in an era when woman were discriminated against alot thats proberly why alot of the storys were written this way. and finally your pushing my brain to the limit man I may beleve in this stuff but I'm not the pope cut me some slack =DQuote:
Originally Posted by 01101101entor
That includes belivers in scianceology or what ever its called.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan2nd
I'm not sure in what I believe to be honest, Im not going to say there is a God, but I'm not going to say there isn't.
It just makes me think when people say God was created from nothing, but how can nothing create something?
I would like to think there is a God, but without wanting to offend anyone, im really not sure
Catholic.
Yes whcih "you think is true" thats called picking and chooseing, since you dont "know" whether its true or not, you just wish one part was true and choose to belive that it is, the same way you choose which parts you do not belive. That is picking and chooseing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan2nd
Also i belive jesus supposedly taught equality, so its strange his decipeds would be descrinianting, if they were really from them, and not the edited properganda they have slowly been changed in to from the original form "/
Most of it was actualy writen by a single guy named peter, in the form of letters, there was a big meating called by the powerful people at the time to decised what was to go in and what was to be left out, these people were power hungery so changed everything in the favor, this was a good 500 years after jesus supposedly lived.
I don't want to go on about this anymore its turning into a arguement about something picking, poppin choosing etc which is unrelated lolQuote:
Originally Posted by 01101101entor
I googled it:Quote:
Originally Posted by 01101101entor
that what I found if you can make sense of it =]Quote:
Your craving will be for your husband, and he will dominate you.” (Genesis 3:16) Critics point to this as a judgment of Eve by God and as divine approval of woman’s subjection by man. However, rather than a declaration of God’s purpose, this is an accurate statement of the sad consequences of sin and rejection of God’s sovereignty. Abuse of women is the direct result of mankind’s fallen nature, not God’s will. Wives in many cultures have indeed been dominated by their husbands, often in very harsh ways. But this was not God’s purpose.
Both Adam and Eve were made in God’s image. Moreover, they received the same mandate from God to become fruitful, fill the earth, and subdue it. They were to work together as a team. (Genesis 1:27, 28) Clearly, at that point neither was cruelly dominating the other. Genesis 1:31 says: “God saw everything he had made and, look! it was very good.”
In some cases Bible accounts do not indicate God’s view on a matter. They may just be historical narrative. The account of Lot offering his daughters to the Sodomites is related without moral commentary or judgment by God.*—Genesis 19:6-8.
The fact is, God hates all forms of exploitation and abuse. (Exodus 22:22; Deuteronomy 27:19; Isaiah 10:1, 2) The Mosaic Law condemned rape and prostitution. (Leviticus 19:29; Deuteronomy 22:23-29) Adultery was prohibited, and the penalty was death for both parties. (Leviticus 20:10) Rather than discriminate against women, the Law elevated and protected them from the rampant exploitation common in the surrounding nations. A capable Jewish wife was a highly respected and esteemed individual. (Proverbs 31:10, 28-30) The Israelites’ failure to follow God’s laws on showing respect for women was their fault, not God’s will. (Deuteronomy 32:5) Ultimately, God judged and punished the nation as a whole for their flagrant disobedience