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08-06-2009, 11:00 AM
champions

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Originally Posted by alexxxxx

i can't believe BNP got seats... and I can't believe that you say the BNP aren't racist. I think one of their councillers saying 'if i had a gun, i'd go round and shoot some *Removed*' is a bit racist.

You're not allowed to call the ****s on here. I did the same and got warned for it - I don't see the problem with it though

BNP got two seats now? Where did they get the other seat :eusa_wall
08-06-2009, 11:05 AM
Hecktix

Final Results

Seats in European Parliament Allocated to the British Parties:

Conservative: 25
UKIP: 13
Labour: 13
Lib Dem: 11
Green: 2
BNP: 2
SNP: 2
PC: 1

Share of the vote within Britain

Conservative: 27.7%
UKIP: 16.5%
Labour: 15.7%
Lib Dem: 13.7%
Green: 8.6%
BNP: 6.2%
SNP: 2.1%
PC: 0.8%

European Parliament Groups (Seats):

European People's Party: 264
Socialists: 183
Liberal: 84
No Group: 72
Green: 50
Left: 34
Union for Europe of the Nations: 28
Independance/Democratic: 21

So all in all, a bad day for left wing politics :(:@
08-06-2009, 01:06 PM
-:Undertaker:-

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Originally Posted by ifuseekamy

Because it's just an incentive for minorities to join? And probably because they aren't threatening to kick out non-blacks, denying the holocaust, calling interracial marriage unnatural, mixed race children 'cursed', saying rape against women is okay, homosexuality a disease, the list goes on.

Then why are people not mentioning these things and backing them up with some real evidence from the BNP website, why is it the only thing people seem to be able to pick on is their whites-only policy yet people aren't ranting and raving over the Black Police Officers Association are they?

An incentive for minorities? - I thought this country is supposed to be a multi-cultural country and that is why our politicians scream we should not vote BNP, yet at the same time this government has allowed a basically apartheid system to be implemented.

It is not an excuse and until someone can come up with a real reason why the BNP are racist, but at the same time admitting a BPOA is racist then you/them are lacking and real argument.

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexxxxx

i can't believe BNP got seats... and I can't believe that you say the BNP aren't racist. I think one of their councillers saying 'if i had a gun, i'd go round and shoot some *Removed*' is a bit racist.

Edited by ,Jess, (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not avoid the filter.

Why will you not answer me on why it isn't racist to have a group for one race yet it is racist to have a group for another race.

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Originally Posted by Catzsy

UKIP did very well. The leader seems to have a vision so good luck to them whether I support them or not. I do not think that you can equate an association with a political party though. You seem to have named all the ethnic minority associations which is telling in itself but the same thing could be said about the W.I., the girl guides, professional associations where you need certain qualifications to be considered. It's a bit of a spurious argument really. Yes the BNP were elected fairly but I still say they have a very dark side under the suited and booted public persona.

Nigel Farage is a very good leader indeed. If we are allowed these other groups for minorities, then how is it racist to let the BNP have their group for white people - it isn't. It can't be both ways, yes I know a lot of them are thugs and its why I don't support them, along with some of their other policies - but this is the reason why they get votes, we are told to accept multi-culturalism and that everyone is equal, yet there is outcry from politicians against the BNP for having a whites-only policy while the government fully supports the police having a Black Police Officers Association.

If this hypocrisy was finished overnight there wouldn't be a BNP left tommorow because that is where their support comes from, until then, I wish the BNP, a democratically elected party, all the luck in the world against this pathetic political correctness that has engulfed our country.

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Originally Posted by alexxxxx

i don't understand why people are saying it costs so much money the EU, we spent $60bn+ on our military last year!

I notice you say our military, our people pay tax to be spent on our country, not an organisation that refuses to give its people a choice, and when it does have to give them a choice it forces the question on them again because they voted for the 'wrong answer' - people want our money for our military, not to go to the EU which hasn't had its finances checked properly for years now and billions upon billions have just disappeared from its books.
08-06-2009, 02:32 PM
Catzsy

Quote:

Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

Then why are people not mentioning these things and backing them up with some real evidence from the BNP website, why is it the only thing people seem to be able to pick on is their whites-only policy yet people aren't ranting and raving over the Black Police Officers Association are they?

An incentive for minorities? - I thought this country is supposed to be a multi-cultural country and that is why our politicians scream we should not vote BNP, yet at the same time this government has allowed a basically apartheid system to be implemented.

It is not an excuse and until someone can come up with a real reason why the BNP are racist, but at the same time admitting a BPOA is racist then you/them are lacking and real argument.

Why will you not answer me on why it isn't racist to have a group for one race yet it is racist to have a group for another race.

Nigel Farage is a very good leader indeed. If we are allowed these other groups for minorities, then how is it racist to let the BNP have their group for white people - it isn't. It can't be both ways, yes I know a lot of them are thugs and its why I don't support them, along with some of their other policies - but this is the reason why they get votes, we are told to accept multi-culturalism and that everyone is equal, yet there is outcry from politicians against the BNP for having a whites-only policy while the government fully supports the police having a Black Police Officers Association.

If this hypocrisy was finished overnight there wouldn't be a BNP left tommorow because that is where their support comes from, until then, I wish the BNP, a democratically elected party, all the luck in the world against this pathetic political correctness that has engulfed our country.

I notice you say our military, our people pay tax to be spent on our country, not an organisation that refuses to give its people a choice, and when it does have to give them a choice it forces the question on them again because they voted for the 'wrong answer' - people want our money for our military, not to go to the EU which hasn't had its finances checked properly for years now and billions upon billions have just disappeared from its books.

The point I was making, Dan, whether I agree with a Black Police Association or not is that the crucial difference is they would never really be in any position of power to change a policy in the country or parts of a country . I do not agree that they should be banned though. Having said that I think it is the Government's right to say dont vote BNP. All the parties say it about each other - they just happen to be like minded when it comes to that party.
08-06-2009, 02:45 PM
-:Undertaker:-

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Originally Posted by Catzsy

The point I was making, Dan, whether I agree with a Black Police Association or not is that the crucial difference is they would never really be in any position of power to change a policy in the country or parts of a country . I do not agree that they should be banned though. Having said that I think it is the Government's right to say dont vote BNP. All the parties say it about each other - they just happen to be like minded when it comes to that party.

The police as a supposedly non-biased body should not be able to ban police from being in the BNP when the police themselves have a Black Police Officers Association. It can't be both ways, either you allow race groups or you don't.
08-06-2009, 03:33 PM
Hushie

Very dissapointed that the north west will now be seen as being racist and homophobic
08-06-2009, 03:37 PM
alexxxxx

Quote:

Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

The police as a supposedly non-biased body should not be able to ban police from being in the BNP when the police themselves have a Black Police Officers Association. It can't be both ways, either you allow race groups or you don't.

The police have every right to NOT EMPLOY people of certain groups from joining if it is a conflict of interests. Police Officers have power to an extent and meet people from every corner of society, if the Police believe that, as a member of the BNP, they cannot treat everyone equally, THEY WOULD NOT BE SUITABLE FOR THE JOB. Police need to have an unbiased approach for their work. It is their choice after all who to employ.

The BPO is racist, in the way that it ONLY tries to protect people of minorities in the police force, but they are fighting against racism towards their own members and trying to even everything up, therefore it's acceptable. Just as the many single-ethnic associations there are in the UK also, they are acceptable. I assume in Hong Kong, Japan, South Korea, Dubai, there are also similiar groups for white people.
08-06-2009, 03:40 PM
Jordy

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Originally Posted by alexxxxx

i don't understand why people are saying it costs so much money the EU, we spent $60bn+ on our military last year!

We play a leading part in NATO and we're on the UNSC. We're also fighting 2 wars atm (Albeit we just pulled out of Iraq yesterday) and most of our equipment is out-dated Cold War stuff. I personally see it as justified and if anything not enough, we still need more armoured vehicles and more body armour for our troops in Afghanistan.
08-06-2009, 03:40 PM
Hushie

LOlololol calling the bpoa racist is the same as branding someone anti-homophobic as heterophobic
08-06-2009, 03:51 PM
Catzsy

Quote:

Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

The police as a supposedly non-biased body should not be able to ban police from being in the BNP when the police themselves have a Black Police Officers Association. It can't be both ways, either you allow race groups or you don't.

Most government departments especially in the law & order areas don't allow their middle to ranking employees to be a member of any political party because of bias. I do see what you mean though. Being in the BNP is not against the law whether they are distasteful or not.

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