Habbox Live concerns

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Originally Posted by Robbie

All HabboxLive content could go in a separate directory which Jess would have FTP access to?

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Why? What's the problem with a seperate site? May as well integrate the forum into Habbox.com as well just on a tab...:)

For Jess, she can have access to edit the HabboxLive stuff with the new panel I think, and users can style the site with HabboxLive widgets etc. Maybe if you visit HabboxLive.com then it'll do it all for you.

I'm not sure what the benefits of merging the two would be versus having a radio player and perhaps widget on habbox.com and having the separate website. As it's setup now don't we benefit from best of both worlds already :P

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I totally agree. I remember when the DJs actually used to be fun.. they made me want to listen.
And about the young DJs thing, its totally true. When I started DJing at around 11, I knew I was good, cos I practised it to myself, but when I came on air, I was kinda shy & didnt know what to say and how to control myself. It took me a few years of DJing to grasp how to do it perfectly (even though I quit DJing cos I didnt have time :P )

But I think, you should only keep the very good & perfect DJs. The DJs that are just "okay" or "alright" or are "sometimes good, sometimes not" should be fired along with the inactive & rulebreaking ones. You should also have a minimum age requirement to become a DJ, I suggest 14/15 because it took me 3 years (until I was 14) to have the FULL skills, confidence, experience and knowledge in DJing.

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Originally Posted by HotelUser

I'm not sure what the benefits of merging the two would be versus having a radio player and perhaps widget on habbox.com and having the separate website. As it's setup now don't we benefit from best of both worlds already :P

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I agree with this.
It wouldent change at all.
Best doing what people are happier with and it seems staying the way it is.

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Originally Posted by TanyaaTurner

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I totally agree. I remember when the DJs actually used to be fun.. they made me want to listen.
And about the young DJs thing, its totally true. When I started DJing at around 11, I knew I was good, cos I practised it to myself, but when I came on air, I was kinda shy & didnt know what to say and how to control myself. It took me a few years of DJing to grasp how to do it perfectly (even though I quit DJing cos I didnt have time :P )

But I think, you should only keep the very good & perfect DJs. The DJs that are just "okay" or "alright" or are "sometimes good, sometimes not" should be fired along with the inactive & rulebreaking ones. You should also have a minimum age requirement to become a DJ, I suggest 14/15 because it took me 3 years (until I was 14) to have the FULL skills, confidence, experience and knowledge in DJing.

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If we fired all the kind of DJs you have said, how would anyone improve? If you follow what you say, you wouldn't be a DJ at the age that you started off young. HabboxLive hires DJs that have potential. How can you expect them do improve if you fire them? I mean I would understand that after a few months if that, they haven't improved at all they could be fired. However if you just want to dismiss all the as you say "the very good & perfect DJs". Everyone is NOT like you. Some DJs at a very young age are very good. How would you feel at the age of 11 that you started you got fired because you are not one of the "very good & perfect DJs". If you were fired at 11, you wouldn't have the chance to be, or as you say "have the FULL skills, confidence, experience and knowledge in DJing". Honestly, I disagree with the whole second half of your post. You cannot limit the age of the DJs because of the age YOU have found or as you say found "Perfection".

Honestly, off the topic of this thread, your post was very disrespectful. You said in your post and I quote "I remember when the DJs actually used to be fun.. they made me want to listen." are you saying that we are no longer fun to listen to? if we are "not fun to listen to" why do we still have listeners. They may have dropped throughout the years, but have you noticed that ALL the fansites have dropped listeners and not just HabboxLive? HabboxLive is still one of the top fansites that habbo has, and I believe that we will stay one of the top. Most of the people in this thread think that it is "so easy" to be a DJ and keep the listeners, so I throw you a challenge. When applications open, why don't some of you apply and if you get in see if you can maintain the listeners that you say is "so easy to do".

That might sound rude, because some of the people that have commented in the threads can or have been able to maintain good listener base. Honestly, I'm not trying to sound rude or i wouldn't bother posting this at all. Jess and Gemma are trying to get the staff that they believe would work best with Habboxlive. Just like in every other department, it doesn't all matter on how good or how active etc... you are. Let's say you are an amazing DJ however very rude and obnoxious towards other users you could be fired. On the other end of the boat, you could be a not bad DJ but have good qualities other then being amazing at the job that you do at Habbox and you could be favored. If you get hired clearly the HabboxLive managers see some potential.

This is all not going to be negative as I do agree on some points that have been said in this thread. Honestly, as I said earlier in the thread, about the skype account. I will be starting that up soon, Jess is finding the password to the account so I will be on it all the time that I am online. I will be putting the account the the twitter and try to get the Djs at advertise it as much as they can. This can be used by Senior DJs and i dno yet but maybe regular DJs to get the listeners involved as said earlier because I think this is a great idea.

Going onto the point that i read about international DJs streaming at 3 or so in the morning UK time. We have 8 international DJs left which 7 of them come from the same timezone. being from them, I understand where they are coming from. 3AM UK time is 10pm our time. I know there shouldn't be streaming there but the rule that we have is if the radio MUST go offline, we are allowed to stream. The thing is, no UK DJ books until about 11AM, in this case, streaming HAS to take place. 11AM UK time is 6AM our time. What child, would talk from 10PM-6AM when they can wake their family that is sleeping? Streaming therefore cannot be completely removed because of our lack of international DJs out of the EST (-4) timezone.

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Originally Posted by Samology

I agree that Intls shouldn't be streaming in the early hours of the morning and should DJ more. The Auto DJ thing doesn't need to be introduced because that's the Intl DJ's jobs. I don't see a problem with Intl DJs doing slots in UK times but if they don't do slots in the timezone they're supposed to be doing them in then there's a problem.

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Sam, internationals can't DJ times that they cannot talk. Is streaming should be 100% cut out, the radio would be offline for atleast 3 hours a day. If you look at the timetable, Lindsey (Hazy) Has been DJ'ing in times that UK Djs should be DJ'ing in (Like 8-10am at least). People have to understand that this is very late our time. Would the UK DJs want to stay up untill 5am in the morning DJ'ing a proper show like she is? I stay up some nights till 2 in the morning. I cannot DJ proper shows at these hours because my parents are in bed? Think about it, could UK DJs, DJ at 2 in the morning a proper show? I haven't seen hardly ANY UK Djs book times after 10PM. So we stream at 12AM-5AM our time (As most of the internationals have the same timezone) and we are getting the hit for streaming? Streaming isn't that big of a problem. Tonight, I streamed at 11PM (4AM UK time) my time because I couldn't DJ a proper show and had 30 listeners. This is atleast a third of what we get in peak time! I don't think streaming at this late hours causes that much of a listener drop.

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Originally Posted by Angel-Light

A merge would be a good idea and with 95% of the staff disagreeing? Tell them to grow up. If overall it will make listeners boost up then they should be happy, they will still get to keep their jobs and nothing will change except that everything will be located in one area.

Why I am very strong about the change and that the staff should be happy is that at my work recently everyone's hours have been changed to those that they do not wish to do. Did we have a choice? No, management did it anyway.

A major rehaul of the radio department is needed

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Honestly, no. A merge wouldn't be that good of an idea I don't think. I always tune into the radio on HabboxLive. I'm sure lots of people tune into HabboxLive because if you are tuned into the radio then it is much easier to get around with your requests and shoutouts and DJ says. Another reason is because when I log onto the Habbox.com main site, I lag alot because there is just so much stuff going on. If you want to merge HabboxLive into Habbox.com under a tab, might as well merge the forum under a different one.

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Originally Posted by Publicised

iya! i've only recentely come back to dj here after a 3 year break, and i do agree somethings need changing. but i don't think it's the right time to think about closing down the radio completely, though i agree a merge with the habbox site would be awesome.

1) the cover issue. number one, i dj for FREE at habbox (not saying we should be paid btw), it's a voluntary service and if i book to do one hour, i expect to do one hour. the problem is, there's a few dj's on the team (not mentioning names) who see a free slot at the beginning of the week, book them all up and then don't turn up. and the dj before is left to cover for 1, sometimes maybe 2 hours. y'know, we do have lives. i currently work full time aswell, and if i'm dj'ing for an hour, that is ALL i want to do. i think certain dj's need to really re-consider whether they wanna actually dj (i know this is gonna sound really mean), but it's not fair for 5 or so dj's to have to sit up all night, or sit around WAITING for you to miss a slot. and that's how it feels sometimes with some people. i know i'm not the only person saying it either, for one i know samology agrees with me, as we were talking about it yesterday.

2.) i'm not a great fan in luring listeners with prizes. yeah, okay listeners have dropped. but quite frankly; i would rather have someone listening to me because they ENJOY the music/dj'ing and not listening cause i'm gonna give them a ******* hc at the end of it. i find it quite insulting ahaha.

3.) i STRIVE to bring diversity into my shows with genre and the maturity of shows. (etc reviews, critiques etc) and i do manage to hold listeners during my shows, so maybe this is a route to go down? instead of the same old stuff.

4) i personally think the DJ should not go all night, because the streaming just looks stupid after a while. i think we have enough UK dj's. we should hire some more american/austrailian ones and people should work on a timetable for their timezone. because sometimes, it's hard for UK dj's to get a primetime 7-8pm slot because an international dj has that, but at 7-8pm their time, the radio is streaming.

and that's everything i have to say really; i enjoy dj'ing. i've worked on a professional FM radio, and i used to much rather enjoy habboxlive because it's fun and it's not all target based. i'm just sick of booking a slot, and knowing i'm more than likely gonna have to do the next.

apart from that, loving you hxl xoxox

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I totally agree with this.

For your point on number one, you have to remember, we do NOT get paid for this and we simply do it for FUN. I mean, if you look at the timetable, try to find ONE day where Me, Lindsey, Shannon on Lexii do not have at least ONE slot booked in the early morning. Sure we have to stream some of them because like all other people our parents go to bed, but atleast the radio is not going offline!

On number two, not ALL Djs have enough furni on Habbo to give out prizes every show. I'd rather also have a listener that tunes in because they enjoy us DJing and not for the things they get out of it. When I tune into habboxLive I rarely enter a competition because I just don't see a point. I tune in when I feel like it, not just because i'm staff but because I enjoy the DJs on air. If I don't win a competition i'm not gonna tune out?

On number three, a lot of new perm shows have been introduced with different things in them like variety etc.. Djs have variety, let it be, charts, oldies, slow songs or new songs. DJs that do that seem to keep listeners well as they involve everyone in their shows.

On number four, OK maybe I don't agree on everything.. yes, I must admit, sometime at 7PM my time I do stream. But does that make the listeners that low? If the radio is going offline, would you rather have it offline or have someone streaming? The rule that we follow is if the slot is not booked by about 5 to, and the senior has spammed the senior account etc and still don't find anyone, I don't see a problem with streaming. unless it is in the UK peak hours because there is loads of Djs willing to go on air that just cannot book a slot!

I want to elaborate more on the fact of DJs booking slots then missing them. As Bethie has said, some of the Djs want peak slots however someone books it and doesn't turn up to it? Also a problem that is seen alot, is at about quarter to the hour, the DJ that is supposed to DJ next unbooks his/her slot. This is then a slot open for anyone to get. I see some UK DJs on the timetable alot less then they should be because of this problem.

Anyways this is a long enough post so I will end it now LOL.

Well Habbox is more popular then some fansite though, they currently have 21 listeners (but people are still in bed so it doesn't matter) and HFFM just has 2 listeners when i tuned in (probably 1 now i tuned out!) so it isn't that bad. Normally i can't be bothered to tune in unless i see people advirtising which makes me think something special is going to happen so lets tune in!

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Originally Posted by Samology

I agree that Intls shouldn't be streaming in the early hours of the morning and should DJ more. The Auto DJ thing doesn't need to be introduced because that's the Intl DJ's jobs. I don't see a problem with Intl DJs doing slots in UK times but if they don't do slots in the timezone they're supposed to be doing them in then there's a problem.

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Originally Posted by gangsteragent

Sam, internationals can't DJ times that they cannot talk. Is streaming should be 100% cut out, the radio would be offline for atleast 3 hours a day. If you look at the timetable, Lindsey (Hazy) Has been DJ'ing in times that UK Djs should be DJ'ing in (Like 8-10am at least). People have to understand that this is very late our time. Would the UK DJs want to stay up untill 5am in the morning DJ'ing a proper show like she is? I stay up some nights till 2 in the morning. I cannot DJ proper shows at these hours because my parents are in bed? Think about it, could UK DJs, DJ at 2 in the morning a proper show? I haven't seen hardly ANY UK Djs book times after 10PM. So we stream at 12AM-5AM our time (As most of the internationals have the same timezone) and we are getting the hit for streaming? Streaming isn't that big of a problem. Tonight, I streamed at 11PM (4AM UK time) my time because I couldn't DJ a proper show and had 30 listeners. This is atleast a third of what we get in peak time! I don't think streaming at this late hours causes that much of a listener drop.

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Kso Sam ; I highly think your post is rude. Because have you not been seeing me? I stay up till 8am in the morning, alright? and that is at 12PM your time,.. yeah, alright? I would think that DJs would be up by then and booking, but no one was, if you look at the Timetable on Sunday, it was on a weekend as well, So I really don't think you should be talking Internationals because i'm djing in your time, and I was actually talking on air too... and its 7AM in the morning,.. and like I didn't go to sleep, I was talking from 6AM-7AM .. If you don't see, mostly everyday. I stay up to keep the radio online, in till SamLouise comes on, and takes over., I really don't see you staying up till 8AM in the morning DJing.. , && I'm only staying up late so we will have more listeners in the day, and the radio wont go offline. So, next time you try to say something about the internationals not doing there job, i wont keep the radio online. I'll go offline. And actually get some sleep. You are a great person. I just get annoyed when someone says something, and im doing beyond what i should .

http://i29.tinypic.com/5ajfas.jpg
There is my proof. I am in the EST time, so 12PM is 7AM. x

I agree with all of that except the age. You can have a young confident person or an older person with less enthusiasm and not generally amazing at Dj-ing so i don't think age affects it. Often younger members are more loyal to habbo(x) so this wouldn't affect it.

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Oh and
The Dj's need to work together more Mikey and samlouise do great shows together but often at events party rooms etc, only the dj and room owner show up where as higher number of staff participating will push the rroom into the main slots on habbo causing more people to see what is actually happening at habbox

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Originally Posted by :Lindsey

Kso Sam ; I highly think your post is rude. Because have you not been seeing me? I stay up till 8am in the morning, alright? and that is at 12PM your time,.. yeah, alright? I would think that DJs would be up by then and booking, but no one was, if you look at the Timetable on Sunday, it was on a weekend as well, So I really don't think you should be talking Internationals because i'm djing in your time, and I was actually talking on air too... and its 7AM in the morning,.. and like I didn't go to sleep, I was talking from 6AM-7AM .. If you don't see, mostly everyday. I stay up to keep the radio online, in till SamLouise comes on, and takes over., I really don't see you staying up till 8AM in the morning DJing.. , && I'm only staying up late so we will have more listeners in the day, and the radio wont go offline. So, next time you try to say something about the internationals not doing there job, i wont keep the radio online. I'll go offline. And actually get some sleep. You are a great person. I just get annoyed when someone says something, and im doing beyond what i should .

http://i29.tinypic.com/5ajfas.jpg
There is my proof. I am in the EST time, so 12PM is 7AM. x

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I understand that you and Matt do absolutely loads to keep the radio online, I'm not suggesting that the Djs in your timezone (dunno which one it is i get confused) should be doing more, I'm suggesting that we need Intl's from like Australia's timezone to be hired. Apps will be opening soon so hopefully you won't have to be djing at those times & you can sleep. You have to understand that 8am our time is also unbelievably early, and that most of us UK's sleep in until like 10-11am at least.

If apps open and we get some more Intl's from various timezones along with our UK's we can have the timetable full without having to use other people's timezones. I wasn't suggesting that you do not dj in your own timezone at all, but it is frustrating to me when Intl DJs do slots in UK times such as like 7pm, yet don't do slots in their own timezones which is at the end of the day what they were hired for. Once again I'm not hinting that you & Matt do not do your fair share because you both most certainly do. x