Amy Winehouse found dead

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

Addiction is a word for the weak minded, they [the likes of Winehouse and Doherty] take drugs out of choice and often knowing fully well what the consquences are of their foolish actions. At the end of the day with an 'addiction', the only thing that can stop your addiction is yourself - its willpower, you are capable of stopping yourself and there's nobody else but yourself to blame. Another young life wasted on drugs, RIP.

People will not stop taking drugs if you keep apologising for them, its time to stop apologising for them.

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unless you have found yourself in such a situation as amy winehouse did then i don't think it's fair for you to suggest it was her own fault that she died. also please don't respond to me with an essay because i just won't read it

We don't even know for definite that drugs were the cause of her death. Of course, it's highly likely but not confirmed so I think its unfair to pass judgment at this stage

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Originally Posted by Slowpoke

We don't even know for definite that drugs were the cause of her death. Of course, it's highly likely but not confirmed so I think its unfair to pass judgment at this stage

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Originally Posted by Judas

unless you have found yourself in such a situation as amy winehouse did then i don't think it's fair for you to suggest it was her own fault that she died. also please don't respond to me with an essay because i just won't read it

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Oh I do, I think its very fair - fair unlike the chance she threw away with her idiocy concerning drug taking (whether she even died from this or complications from this or not). These people try drugs because they make the choice to, they continue to take drugs because they make the choice to. As with criminals, these people act in a bad manner and endanger themselves and/or others because they choose to. The only people to blame are themselves; not society, not drug dealers, not their childhood - the buck stops with themselves.

A side note, would appreciate a real discussion on her bad choices as opposed to 'you havent been through what she has!' emotional drivel.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

Oh I do, I think its very fair - fair unlike the chance she threw away with her idioacy concerning drug taking (whether she even died from this or complications from this or not). These people try drugs because they make the choice to, they continue to take drugs because they make the choice to. As with criminals, these people act in a bad manner and endanger themselves and/or others because they choose to. The only people to blame are themselves; not society, not drug dealers, not their childhood - the buck stops with themselves.

A side note, would appreciate a real discussion on choice as opposed to 'you havent been through what she has' emotional drivel.

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Please tell me why alcohol is legal then because - as I'm sure you know - people who drink alcohol often cause harm to themselves and others. I fail to understand why it's one rule for alcohol and another for all the illegal substances

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Originally Posted by Slowpoke

Please tell me why alcohol is legal then because - as I'm sure you know - people who drink alcohol often cause harm to themselves and others. I fail to understand why it's one rule for alcohol and another for all the illegal substances

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I would legalise all drugs tommorow, that does not mean that I don't think they are dangerous, stupid and that the people who take them only have to blame themselves for any problems which arise. I myself haven't even smoked a cigarette, entirely my choice.

I also just found out after watching 60 seconds. :)

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

Oh I do, I think its very fair - fair unlike the chance she threw away with her idiocy concerning drug taking (whether she even died from this or complications from this or not). These people try drugs because they make the choice to, they continue to take drugs because they make the choice to. As with criminals, these people act in a bad manner and endanger themselves and/or others because they choose to. The only people to blame are themselves; not society, not drug dealers, not their childhood - the buck stops with themselves.

A side note, would appreciate a real discussion on her bad choices as opposed to 'you havent been through what she has!' emotional drivel.

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i disagree. when you are in the position that amy winehouse was in when she began to take drugs, when she was mentally unstable and wrongly influenced and placed in the wrong crowd of people by her new boyfriend and eventual husband, mix that with depression and constant hounding from the press, and you get an unfortunate situation.

and had you been here for the entire discussion you would have known we've covered that bb, though that argument in this case is valid in my opinion

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Originally Posted by Judas

i disagree. when you are in the position that amy winehouse was in when she began to take drugs, when she was mentally unstable and wrongly influenced and placed in the wrong crowd of people by her new boyfriend and eventual husband, mix that with depression and constant hounding from the press, and you get an unfortunate situation.

and had you been here for the entire discussion you would have known we've covered that bb, though that argument in this case is valid in my opinion

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Oh there's no denying that she was mentally unstable - as a result of her drug taking. However, she made the choice at the end of the day when she could have not taken drugs even while those around her warned of the dangers (her father and her mother both publically). I also very much doubt she began to take drugs from when her career started, as on the news today a childhood friend told of how she used to smoke weed when younger (and unknown). She made the choice, she paid the price and you apologising for her won't recitify her silly choice nor will it put others off taking the same route now, will it?

I am totally shocked! I was taken aback when I was just checking the news online. I would say most likely it will be drugs+drink since recently she has been in rehab or seen binge drinking. Poor woman, she will be missed! ;(