Guardian System

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Originally Posted by Bob1

Head Hobba was always a Community Manager, they did not just "manage" the volunteer programme, they are one and the same position whatever they may have called it on the recruitment pages in the very early days. Yes she was a "Head Hobba" in the fact that she recruited and managed them, but she was the Community Manager. Becs was actually not the only staff member to work remotely.

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But on the formal website it stated Head Hobba. Thats what it was officially known as by Sulake. That's my argument. I'm not sure if Becs was actually a head hobba I think thats a misunderstanding of facts, I knew she was higher.. if you read the recruitment page it says all head hobbas (international too) must report to Becs. Community manager doesn't deal with international issues.

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You're perfectly entitled to believe what you want, was just trying to help you correctly identify the former Hobba system structure (re: who was paid, who was not). I'm sure if you were to ask one of them what they put on their CV it would be the title Community Manager, as that's what they were known as to us within Sulake. http://www.habbosphere.com/history/3-habbo-staff this article correctly identifies the original, typical base structure for staffing.
Whether or not the term "Head Hobba" was an official term or not does not change the facts around Hobbas as paid staff which I think is the point you're trying to make? Or not?

edit: sweet jesus, the recruitment post even uses the title COMMUNITY MANAGER, Head Hobba is an informal reference to an in-game player coined term! With reference to this, I would know a lot about Sulake's inner workings, trust me.

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Originally Posted by Bob1

You're perfectly entitled to believe what you want, was just trying to help you correctly identify the former Hobba system structure (re: who was paid, who was not). I'm sure if you were to ask one of them what they put on their CV it would be the title Community Manager, as that's what they were known as to us within Sulake. http://www.habbosphere.com/history/3-habbo-staff this article correctly identifies the original, typical base structure for staffing.
Whether or not the term "Head Hobba" was an official term or not does not change the facts around Hobbas as paid staff which I think is the point you're trying to make? Or not?

edit: sweet jesus, the recruitment post even uses the title COMMUNITY MANAGER, Head Hobba is an informal reference to an in-game player coined term! With reference to this, I would know a lot about Sulake's inner workings, trust me.

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Mate this is simple English. If it was a player coined, informal wording, then it would be, if I may say so,

Community Manager/Head Hobba

Not

Head Hobba/Community Manager

In simple English this identifies that Head Hobba has more importance.

and to make it worse it says Head Hobba aka Community manager. Not the other way round. Judging from Sulake HQ's wording, which one is more official and important in their eyes?

Wow. lol.

Edited by Chris (Forum Moderator): Please do not make pointless posts!

Lol, why does it even matter about Hobba's any more.. they're gone.

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Originally Posted by atpeak

Mate this is simple English. If it was a player coined, informal wording, then it would be, if I may say so,

Community Manager/Head Hobba

Not

Head Hobba/Community Manager

In simple English this identifies that Head Hobba has more importance.

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I no longer understand what point it is you are trying to make, the original point was to do with Hobbas/payment in reflection to the new Guardian system and that has safely been put to bed as a misunderstanding, what purpose does this clarification now serve?

Here are the facts -
As an ASSISTANT COMMUNITY MANAGER for Sulake in the Canadian hotel for over a year I can tell you I was never ever referred to as an ASSISTANT HEAD HOBBA. Neither in any of the training material or policy documentation I, yes me personally, wrote or edited during my time in other positions training many MODs, Hobbas and Office Staff in in-game moderation tools did I ever use the term "Head Hobba" as an official title to refer to someone, only as an informal reference.

I was only trying to correct an observation you made when commenting on an old system I knew a lot about - Super Hobbas were never paid, Head Hobbas were not Hobbas, they were Community Managers. This is where your misunderstanding with regards to pay arised. If that hasn't been helpful I'll apologise and go about my day.

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Originally Posted by Bob1

I no longer understand what point it is you are trying to make, the original point was to do with Hobbas/payment and that has safely been put to bed as a misunderstanding, what purpose does this clarification now serve?

Here are the facts -
As an ASSISTANT COMMUNITY MANAGER for Sulake in the Canadian hotel for over a year I can tell you I was never ever referred to as an ASSISTANT HEAD HOBBA. Neither in any of the training material or policy documentation I, yes me personally, wrote or edited during my time in other positions training many MODs, Hobbas and Office Staff in in-game moderation tools did I ever use the term "Head Hobba" as an official title to refer to someone, only as an informal reference.

I was only trying to correct you - Super Hobbas were never paid, Head Hobbas were not Hobbas, they were Community Managers. This is where your misunderstanding with regards to pay arised.

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Oh. Sulake was lying then when they put Head Hobba on the recruitment page. Thats what you're saying lol :P

What you don't understand is that was the official position name. What A, B and C called it is informal.

Do you get what I am trying to say? You may never have called yourself Head Hobba, but the fact is thats what your employer called you and your contract must have too.

You got it the wrong way round bud :)

I'm going to leave you to this, I really don't see what purpose this serves. It's there in black and white. I think I know what I was employed as, what I was interviewed for, what I was referred to by my peers and what I now put on my CV as the position I actually held.

So anyway, that Guardian system is looking interesting..

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Originally Posted by Bob1

I'm going to leave you to this, I really don't see what purpose this serves. It's there in black and white. I think I know what I was employed as, what I was interviewed for, what I was referred to by my peers and what I now put on my CV as the position I actually held.

So anyway, that Guardian system is looking interesting..

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Cool. Just one more thing, for reference, what you are called by your peers is not official. :P

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Originally Posted by Bob1

So anyway, that Guardian system is looking interesting..

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Looking through the code in the client, and at all the images (not just the ones Shorty thinks are interesting!) i'm a bit confused as to how this is actually going to work.

At first I though the 'Guardian' role would give select Habbos the powers to kick, mute and room ban users in a fashion similar to that of Hobbas. In the sense that they would respond to a call, and chose an appropriate action based on the situation. After that, I thought the action that you had performed was going to be forwarded to other Guardians for review; to help ensure you was not abusing your position. At least, this is the idea I got from some of Sulakes developers.

After looking at the code and images though, it looks like to me as though an action is based on how 'bad' the bully is being ('Ok', 'Bad' or 'Very Bad'). The decision to how the bully is being seems to be collected from an average of several different Guardian votes, I then assume the server will take an automatic action based on that vote result.